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Rapelay Bad? It's Only the Tip of the Iceberg

Split-screen.com: "It's been going on for months. Illusion Soft's Rapelay was released in 2006 but has been in the spotlight of controversy after some one posted it on Amazon. Lo and behold as British Parliament MP Keith Vaz declares his devotion towards preventing any commercial sale of Rapelay outside Japan (though a quick peek at any torrent site reveals it's availability). It's easy to be offended by a game whose concept revolves around raping a family of women, one of them being much below the age of consent. But the controversy and subsequent banning of Rapelay is especially ironic when you take into consideration the amount of explicit "fantasy" material that actually reaches the mainstream. And we sure as hell aren't talking about Illusion Soft's very own Battle Raper series."

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The_Zeitgeist3173d ago

This reminds me of the "Hot Coffee" controversy. It really is a small little mostly unknown thing yet its getting blown up by gamers. Careful everyone do you really want to give Fox News some more BS to spew?

Nike3173d ago

It's just really amazing how some thing small will get beaten up so long as it has the "video game" moniker next to it while other violent shows and movies are ignored.

Trollimite3173d ago

id rather the people who play these types of games, play a rape game, rather than rape a real person.

but thats just me

Tempist3173d ago

Oh boy, it's official; gaming journalism has absolutely nothing better to report on that Non-issue game realated news. Yes it's been condoned, yes everyone knows about it. NO YOU CAN"T GET IT OUTSIDE JAPAN (easily).

Lets drop the issue and move on. Tabloid journalism does not help the case for games or journalists trying to do a decent, worthy, honourable job of reporting.

Trollimite3173d ago

its either write about a rape game

or

write a positive ps3 article.

and god knows they wont do the second one!

RememberThe3573173d ago

But our approaches are not making it seem that way.

I personally can't write this off by just saying "well there are movies that do it so video games should be allowed to do it too". I don't think any entertainment medium should have this content allowed. I think that as gamers we need to hold ourself and our hobby to a higher standard.

I read your guys comments and it just seems to me that you guys are spending too much time defending video games in general and not focusing on the issue as a whole. Glorifying/profiteering off rape.

That just my interpretation of the situation...

rockleex3173d ago

if you want to ban rape in games. ^_^

xabmol3173d ago

I just wish people would stop beating this dead horse.

Rex70003173d ago

this is pointless people been knowing just stop with news like this u are only encourage the write 2 put up more useless news about stuff we been knowing

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Nike3173d ago

Out of curiousity, which is more preferable: Watching fantasy rape or actually playing it?

LeonSKennedy4Life3173d ago

I can't imagine someone enjoying either.

I call that hitting rock bottom.

Nike3173d ago

Must be the first requirement for getting a job at Illusion Soft then.

Gue13173d ago (Edited 3173d ago )

Then you two should quit gaming forever seeing that you two are so much into morality...

Killing so many people in virtual worlds leaving so many families without fathers, mothers, cousins, etc... Games turn you into bloodthirsty killers!

If you had a child that got kidnapped and the kidnappers give you an option: Do you want it dead or raped? What would you chose? Lol

I make fun of this because in the same way you kill people in games and you don't do it in real life, why can't you rape girls in games while not do it in real life? I mean, this will not change a thing, a rapist is a rapist even if he play a rapist game or not.

In the same way people defend games saying that killing people in games doesn't turns you into a murderer, a game about rape will not turn you into a rapist.

Nike3173d ago (Edited 3173d ago )

That's funny. I didn't see many tiny little Replica children crying to a Replica mommy when I murdered their fathers/brothers/cousins/uncle s in F.E.A.R. the other day. Ditto for the countless demons slain in Devil May Cry.

Gue13173d ago

When soldiers murders people in war they don't see the fathers and mothers crying over the dead bodies most of the time...

If you play rapelay you would know that the girls actually want to be raped. There are scenes in trains full of people you know, they could scream if they are so scare. All these in reference to the tiny little details we're talking about.

Most of the scenes in the game are based in sexual fantasies from japanese people. A lot of people in the US and ni America always say that they want to have sex in the beach while mots japanese want to have sex in public places like in the train.

Their way of thinking is very different from us. Where else would you find cartoon porn with tentacles? Have you ever seen "Hardo Gay"? And the way the guy interacts with little kids? That program would be banned in the US and the guy would be in jail right now but it is completely normal in most places in Asia.

Nike3173d ago

True. Good point.

I'm not so sure if these girls want to be raped in Rapelay (i haven't played the game, so I wouldn't know) but the devs have definitely created that same ambiance found in most hentai doujins and anime. The girl may say she's not enjoying it, she may be crying but all the same, she looks to be enjoying. Which is far different from any representation of rape in Europe or America (like The Accused, for example).

I do agree their way of thinking is very different but at times it borders on the irrational. At one point I think they outlawed hardcore porn so they invented bukkake to compensate. They allow stuff like Rapelay but games like Dead Space got banned. They don't allow guns to be carried around by any one other than the police yet some of the most violent movies (Battle Royale), manga (Gantz) and anime (Black Lagoon) have come from their obsession with guns and grit.

On that note though: Did you know child abuse isn't even a crime here in India? :(

LeonSKennedy4Life3173d ago

Gamers murder in video games...because it's fake. It doesn't feel like real murder. It doesn't simulate a real murder. Even if it did, murder is not a problem here. Murderers are going to play those game no matter what.

Why would somebody play a game based around raping other than to fantasize about raping someone? Seriously...why would they play it?

That puts potential rapists out on the streets.

You'd understand if you just thought about it long enough.

It's not an issue of which one we'd rather have happen...murder or rape.

It's a widespread problem. Rape is not something people need to be simulating. It makes guys REALLY want to rape these girls.

How can you possibly stand for this?

Nike3173d ago

On the surface, this argument - violent games don't encourage people to murder while rape games encourage guys to rape - doesn't apply equally to both cases.

There are several more factors to consider with murder - family, society, the law are all virtual and have no effect in the gaming world. But with rape, it all affects our morales and ethics. The girl is on the screen, yes. The tears aren't real, she's not real, but we are and we're doing some thing despicable, right? I don't know about the whole "aversive therapy" argument of simulated rape but it's definitely wrong, even to fantasize about it.

AngryTypingGuy3173d ago

I suppose as a matter of free speech I support peoples' right to make and play the game, but just because you can doesn't mean you should.

When you kill in videogames, most of the time it leads to an objective, like saving the world or rescuing somebody, or stopping a zombie virus from spreading. I don't see much entertainment value in virtual raping.

Defectiv3_Detectiv33173d ago (Edited 3173d ago )

STOP COMPARING RAPE TO KILLING A BAD GUY. THAT IS SUCH A STUPID COMPARISON! IN VIDEOGAMES YOU KILL B A D G U Y S, NOT INNOCENT GIRLS CRYING FOR YOU TO STOP!

MAYBE IF YOU WERE TO, LIKE, SAY, RAPE A LOCUST FROM GEARS (BAD GUY), THAT WOULDN'T BE SO BAD. BUT THE NEGATIVE ACTION IN RAPELAY IS PERPETRATED AGAINST AN INNOCENT - TOTALLY DIFFERENT STORY! THAT IS WHY YOU CAN'T COMPARE RAPELAY TO (INSERT VIOLENT GAME HERE).

RAPELAY GIVES THE IMPRESSION THAT RAPE IS AOK, AND THAT'S JUST WRONG. RAPE IS A SILENT EPIDEMIC. UNLIKE MURDER MOST WOMEN ARE ASHAMED TO COME FOWARD FOR FEAR OF HUMILIATION, SO THESE CRIMES GO UNPUNISHED AND UNNOTICED BY SOCIETY.

NOW GTA ON THE OTHER HAND, AT LEAST LETS YOU DECIDE WETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO HARM INNOCENT BYSTANDARDS. IT IS THE SAME THING FOR ONLINE GAMING.

AND MOVIES DON'T COUNT EITHER. I HAVE YET TO SEE A MOVIE THAT GLORIFIES RAPE. THE CLOSEST YOU COULD SAY WOULD BE DEE SNIDER'S TWISTED, BUT NOBODY LIKED THAT RETARED P.O.S. ANYWAYS.

DO YOU NOT REALIZE THAT YOU ARE CONDONING RAPE? AND WHY, BECAUSE YOUR AFRAID SOMEBODY MIGHT BE TAKING A CHEAP SHOT AT YOUR PRECIOUS VIDEOGAMES? GROW UP MAN, SERIOUSLY, GROW THE F UP.

AND YES I KNOW IM TYPING IN CAPS, ITS BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE TO SAY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVERYONE ELSE(LOUD NOISES)

zagibu3173d ago

There are hundreds of games where you don't kill the bad guys (GTA series, Kane and Lynch, Hitman, etc.). Stop trying to hide behind that. Fact is: virtual murder is tolerated, virtual rape not. Is this ok? Maybe, I don't know. But really, I don't se people playing rape games to actually go out and rape real women afterwards...I don't see why people should be unaffected by virtual killing, but not by virtual raping. Care to explain?

Defectiv3_Detectiv33173d ago (Edited 3173d ago )

And you didn't even bother to read my arguement, or you are just too stupid to comprehend. Generally, videogames pit you against EVIL DOERS, BAD GUYS, i.e. PEOPLE WHO DESERVE TO BE KILLED.

NAZI'S, MONSTERS, ALIENS, TERRORISTS, ETC. - deserved to be killed

I did not believe it was possible for somebody to be so naive. Obviously you don't understand the difference between glorification and exploitation. You are just trying to go for the easy arguement, and frankly, your out of your league if you think that arguement holds a candle to my own.

Rapelay gives the impression that Rape is acceptable. It forces the player to engage in illicit acts as a means to progress in the game. You rape little girls while they cry and beg you to stop.

Now, while in Kane and Lynch, you do kill innocent people, you're playing as a psycopath. While your character is having a psychotic episode you kill innocent people in a night club because you're hallucinating! Kane and Lynch doesn't glorify murder of innocence. It exploits it, but its not like the key gameplay mechanic involves murdering the innocent.

The only way K+L glorifies killing were if you idolized sociopathic behavior, which is obviously not the case. K+L are antiheros, flawed protagonists. They're actions aren't necessarily right.

GTA is another example of exploitation. You don't have to kill innocent people in the game unless you choose to. You can beat the game w/o taking a single innocent life.

100s of games where you don't kill the bad guys? You named 2 of em. You are obviously stretching on this one. You might want to look into getting a catscan cuz im pretty sure you might be clinically retarded. Or at least, you would have to be to defend rape.

To close my arguement, I will leave you w/ some of LEONSKENNEDY'S remarks. He seems to be the only other logical thinking person on this board.

"Gamers murder in video games...because it's fake. It doesn't feel like real murder. It doesn't simulate a real murder. Even if it did, murder is not a problem here. Murderers are going to play those game no matter what.

Why would somebody play a game based around raping other than to fantasize about raping someone? Seriously...why would they play it?

That puts potential rapists out on the streets.

You'd understand if you just thought about it long enough.

It's not an issue of which one we'd rather have happen...murder or rape. "

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BULLETBOI3173d ago

Rapelay is just another game which no one is ever to going to play. It will never be allowed got to US cuz, even games have standards that they should aleast be aware off. Morally, its bad but people might even learn a thing or two from it if they play it....

Pixel_Addict3173d ago (Edited 3173d ago )

by bringing this video game more attention it is only attracting more people's interests. How many thousand gamers haven't even heard of this crap before N4G users posted this?

Besides, then the argument against the game can be upheld against ANY violent video game? Shooting random people in the streets of GTA is ok? Or how about killing an entire village of Africans in Resident Evil 5? The whole argument for video game censorship is that people who play violent games are adversely effected. So in other words... if rape video games make you want to rape, then I suppose people who play war games really are dangerous bloodthristy sociopaths.

Dark General3173d ago

Damn it. This is about the third or fourth article or review i've read that mentioned Shigurui being much to violent for the sake of being violent along with other detesting scenes. See i don't have a problem with gory sword fights. It's the whole women killing and rape thing that's turned me off from this anime. And i was so looking forward to catching it on Blu Ray. Guess i'll just buy Paprika instead.

Nike3173d ago

Yeah, Shigurui is pretty intense even without all the gore from the fights. One example: A man rips off a female's body part during intercourse and eats it. I'll let you guess which part but you won't like the answer. As such, it is beautifully animated (according to Ravi, the author of this article) but even for one with a strong stomach, some of the gore does appear very pointless.

Dark General3173d ago

Yeah i remember seeing a trailer for it on Funi's website and it looked really good. Plus it was coming to Blu Ray which was a plus. But then i started reading a little more about it and i hear alot about the rape/cannibalism stuff. That's the turn off. As much as i love Samurai anime and how gorgeous the animation looks i'll be passing on this one. Besides my girlfriend would be on my ass about seeing something like this. Ninja Scroll and Basilisk was about as much as she could stomache as far as intensity goes.

Nike3173d ago

Basilisk is a walk in Willy Wonka's chocolate factory compared to Shigurui. You could try Kurozuka if you're looking for sword fighting an offbeat treatment. I only checked out two episodes but it's still stuck in my head. And it looks pretty damn good, almost as much as Shigurui. :)

FantasyStar3173d ago

You can always follow the good ol' saying. "Different Strokes for Different Folks"

Dark General3173d ago (Edited 3173d ago )

Just read a little bit about it. Sounds interesting i'll have to check it out when it makes it over here. I like a variety of different anime though even mindf**ks like BoogiePop Phantom which i would suggest to you if you liked Death Note. Or pretty much anything by Satoshi Kon (Paranoia Agent, Paprika, Perfect Blue) to name a few.

@Fantasy Star: I know what you mean. I'm not really trying to call out anyone who would enjoy such a anime. I'm just stating it has some elements in it that doesn't sit well with me.

RememberThe3573173d ago

That last episode pissed me off. Majorly. I loved the series, but I have never hated a fictional character as much as I hated that guy...

If you don't know what I'm talking about, watch the anime on Veoh.com.

Dark General3173d ago

I actually loved the ending to Berserk. Who you're referring to i liked him over Guts. It was something else to watch that ending. Really food for thought.

RememberThe3573173d ago (Edited 3173d ago )

but it was the evil guy in the last episode, and what he did to Casca, that pissed me off. I wanted to jump into my computer screen and kick his ass. I seriously felt for Guts. Life kicked his ass at every turn. It really was one of the best ending the a series that I've ever seen.

I didn't really like the Griffith, but I didn't hate him. Guts and Casca however, are two of my favorite characters ever. I actually bought the first volume of the Manga, and it's fantastic. I gotta get on some more of those.

Dark General3173d ago

Yeah i liked Guts and Casca as well but i just liked Griffith more. Judeau is who i felt terrible for in the end. Giving up his life and never saying how he really felt.

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2Negativecool3173d ago

This game promotes illegal behavior such as rape and murder about as much as the GTA series does.

Not at all.

End of fvcking story.

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