1. Pokemon Platinum (DS) 2. Wii Sports (Wii) 3. Wii Fit (Wii) 4. Resident Evil 5 (360) 5. Wii Play (Wii) 6. Mario Kart Wii 7. Resident Evil 5 (PS3) 8. WWE Legends of WrestleMania (360) 9. Wanted: Weapons of Fate (360) 10. Halo Wars (360)
killzone 2 system seller my ass.
Yea you probably should wipe your ass after sh!tting your self after playing Killzone 2 because it is that amazing!
It is a system seller though. Have you seen the European charts? It's owning over there! Americans still think the PS3 doesn't have rumble, trophies, or any good games. They all think LBP is a kids' game and Killzone 2 is as bad as the first one. When they play a PS3...it changes their minds. Unfortunately, most of them won't give it a chance. The media has been dragging the PS3 down in America since E3 05'.
What, did you get an orgasm from the numbers? Killzone 2 can't be an excellent game for you guys, right? It must flop through the sales. Hell, of it can't flop through gameplay, it must flop through the f*cking sales! Have fun. Still doesn't change the fact that Killzone 2 is one of the best games on the PS3. :)
Want real stats from a non biased site?Go to wikipedia and check Ps3 sales and X360 sales.They have the Ps3 at 21.55 million since Dec 31 2008.Now in three months Ps3 has sold at least 650,000 units per month worldwide.That would put them at approx. 23.5 million .When u see this u actually know why Sony doesnt drop the price of the Ps3,They dont need to!!!It says a lot about a company when u can get their Next-gen system for almost the same price as a PsP (360)lol!!!BY the way they had the 360 at 27.9million as of feb 1 2009.
Platinum doing well considering its the same thing as Diamond/Pearl.
we never stopped...
Sales data from NPD is allowed. Why wouldn't VGchartz be allowed? They do the same thing.
Killzone at #20 overall sales are higher than Halo Wars :P . Considering the install base that is pretty good or sad however you look at it.
that is odd i thought kill zone would be there. I mean all the fans here at n4g were saying that this game would change everything. How come halo wars an rts did better ? it is odd. i bet some of the Europeans here at N4G will turn to racist remarks about how US gamers are stupid and what not. ( i read this almost every day for those who do not believe me. the mods don't always remove racist anti-US comments) (look at comment 8.1 as an example./. i knew it! i wrote this before i read the racist comment. wow)Those who have character and are not racist (most) will probably claim the numbers are not accurate because it is Vcharts. Perhaps Vcharts is not as accurate as we would like but it is definitely indicative of the end result. However, I do not mind waiting for the real results before believing kz2 did not make top 10. peace
Nasim is back with sales
Didn't it EVER occur to you guys that the reason why KZ2 was hyped was because of the gameplay itself or even the graphics? Why is it that you're assuming the game was hyped for the sake of sales?
Given that hype is usually empty, it makes sense that the graphics and gameplay got the hype. ....think it through..... And the purpose of hype is to MOVE UNITS. Hmm.... So much to consider. Or not.
@ ultimolu - I thought the whole point of hyping up a game for its qualities (visuals, story, soundtrack or whatever) was ultimately to have more people buying it. I was under the impression that the videogame industry was a business. Wait...
Racist against Americans? Wrong word there m8 :)
You think you are in the biz? Stupid just stupid. Fans hype games because they are excited to play them dummy. Only people like you think you secretly work for a company and are helping them with your every word. I was hyped about playing KZ2, I was never hyped about reading VGCharts and seeing it out sell everything.
@1.4 - NPD/Media Create/GFK are accurate, VGChartz are completely guesstimates.
Take reading comprehension lessons. Oh and, sure, the Killzone 2 pre-rendered footage released by Sony wasn't a way to hype the game. N4G = Kids with keyboards magneto.
Then going by your logic Aquanox, Killzone 2 is a flop because it didn't sell five million in one day. Whatever. Let the hate of this game continue. The same crap happened with Little Big Planet too!
Aquanox, quit the BS already. People can see through your Microsoft heart a mile away.
Flop? Critically not at all. Commercially, it depends where do you look it at. I'd say that considering the amount of hype, time and money invested into it, it's definitely not delivering on the expectations. I don' even know how long it will take until they recover the investment, let alone start making profit.
Why do you care what fanboys say about a game? Who cares if some over-zealous people claimed it was going to sell millions? Do you even own Killzone 2? Just think, when you log off and close your browser, and return to your normal life, will your life be affected by the sales numbers of Killzone 2? Not to mention you are using VG Chartz' ESTIMATES as "proof" of all of this, when we've seen time and time before how wrong they can be.
Except for the FACT that RTS games historically --> AREN'T BIG sellers on home consoles. Which game --> Killzone 2 or Halo Wars is an RTS... Hmmm? Apparently Halo Wars is the best selling console RTS ever... so what about Killzone 2 sales thus far vs other AAA FPSers? Is Killzone 2 the best selling FPSer ever on a home console?
http://www.vgchartz.com/wel... Polling end users to find out what games they are currently purchasing and playing. Polling retail partners to find out what games and hardware they are selling. Using statistical trend fitting and historical data for similar games. Studying resell prices to determine consumer demand and inventory levels. Consulting with publishers and manufacturers to find out how many units they are introducing into the channel. For all hardware and top 50 software, sales estimates will be arrived at from at least three of the distinct methods listed above to ensure accuracy. For software below the top 50, sales estimates may be arrived at from only one or two of the methods since less data (and time!) is available. VG Chartz holds no responsibility for the use of our weely sales estimates – any business decisions made are made at your own risk. VG Chartz has been cited and featured by a number of leading worldwide publications such as Reuters TV, The BBC, CNN Money, The New York Times, Fortune, Business 2.0, Forbes, The New York Post, The Telegraph, The Guardian, The Times, Süddeutsche Zeitung, The Birmingham News, The Toronto Star, The Indianapolis Star, The Inquirer, NU.nl, CNet, Seeking Alpha, O’Reilly Radar, Yahoo Games and The Guiness Book of World Records. If you require any custom analysis, preview data, forecasts or any other bespoke service outside of the scope of what is offered publically on VG Chartz, or want to know more about the website then please contact us – [email protected] Whether it's actually true or false... this is what is claimed. Now go at it... and have fun.
I don't understand this: Consoles sold in NA since inception: 360: 17,001,185 PS3: 8,288,531 Games sold this week in NA: 360: 880,178 PS3: 542,456 There are 2.05 times as many 360s as there are PS3s in North America, but the software ratio is 1.62 in favour of 360. What happened? I was under impression that 360 owners buy more games. Either that is not true, or there aren't that many 360s in use.
What I can't understand is why kz2 isn'tr even on the list lol.I thought a game like that would of sold much better in the states. Also regardless of the user base res still sold more on 360 which is all devs are worried about. This is vg anyways so if i were you i wouldn't take there numbers serious to begin with. EDit toogamer: Yeah 700k is nice but im sure the game the game will sell at least 2 or 3 million by summer.
is vgchartz buddy. Keep walking, nothing to see here.
Maybe the numbers are true. The recession affects 360 owners as well. Why compare? Just play games.
Regarding KZ2 it says nearly 700k...which is good in my opinion but some will disagree
BBC, Fortune, Forbes, New York Times, New York Post, etc all consider Vgchartz a reliable source for sales data. Do you think they all just don't bother to check their sources? VGchartz is no different than NPD group. They have their retailer partnerships, they have partnerships with publishers, they collect their data and they use fancy shmancy statistical hocus pocus to fill in the blanks. The main difference is VGchartz will actually adjust their figures when official numbers are available. NPD group doesn't bother, which is fair considering their job is to come up with their numbers...not worry about adjusting figures on a historical basis after the fact.
There's a reason why VG Chartz is banned on certain sites.
@GrandTheftStreetcar This ratio exists because there are a lot of casuals with Arcades whereas only the Hardcores (The ones that buy more games) can afford a Playstation 3. That's exactly what happened. Thank you for asking.
Whats your point? those 360 numbers didn't fall too short of twice the sales in relation to a fanbase being twice as big. Not bad for nothing being released lately but a RTS and a few average multi platform games(not RE5 but RE is a well known series on PS). PS3 had the most hyped game in PS3's history and you post numbers that show PS3 was not far from being out done by almost 2 to 1? lol LOL you post numbers that capture a snapshot of the overall picture trying to paint a picture of this being a trend.
whydis, try and calm yourself when posting, it's like you're foaming at the mouth. You say 'lol' but when i read your posts, they just sound like an angry fankid stamping his feet. hes just saying that its interesting, given the numbers. i also think its interesting. but thats about it, back to freelancer now. wuhey
all the pirates are using 360s since the ps3 cant be hacked yet.
amazing to see XBOX still dominating the American chartz!Bubbles to MS
And you're talking into account ALL the games bought by Xbox 360 owners PRIOR to those recent --> WEEKLY <-- NPD North American sales figures - YES? In other words... what is the ATTACH rate for Xbox 360 games per console since release until now? Anyone watching --> SALES numbers knows those numbers FLUCTUATE. Sometimes console and or game sales are up, and sometimes they are down vs previous weeks. Sales also depend upon what promotions and or games are being released during those sales periods... With a MUCH HIGHER North American install base vs the Xbox 360... WHERE are the PSP games on that NPD list? Hmmm?
wow....... second coming of cristh halo wars my ASS!!!!! and vg chatz: GARBAGE!
vgchartz? keep believing this stupid website.
do they have any source to back up their sale prediction?
Yea. Thousands of retailers worldwide. Do research.
It's funny how for the past two months Wii sports been top of the charts in game sales before. But correct me if I'm wrong don't that game come with the console? explain that?
braineater strong words there. well if YOU did your research you would know that vgcharts only estimates sales based on openly available data as charts etc. they have ZERO sources to back up they're made up claims* maybe YOU should do the research before attacking someone else. edit: *and zero sales data by retailers, such data is only tracked/monitored by major market researchs companys like gfk or npd, not some lousy vgchartz.
Ghoul said "vgcharts only estimates sales based on openly available data as charts etc. they have ZERO sources to back up they're made up claims" Vgchartz says "Sales figures are determined through two important methods Data Sampling – VG Chartz gathers random data from a sample of the total number of retailers. Shipment information – VG Chartz has contacts with publishers who give their best estimates on number of products shipped." Obviously both of you can't be right. One of these sources is considered reliable by the BBC, Forbes, Fortune, New York Times, New York Post. The other is Ghoul.
lol darkride vgcharts says ? seriously tahts a joke right? the data vgcharts has is a joke and easily gather by anyone who wants those data. They have no salestrackers or data. i guesses the history of vgcharts inacuracy and wrong estimates would have opened most peoples mind. please read again "At the core of VG Chartz is a team of analysts with over ten years of experience, who are commited to providing weekly estimates of current videogaming trends. Sales estimates are split into three major regions – Americas , Japan and Others – and are arrived at via a number of proprietrary and ever-developing methods: Polling end users to find out what games they are currently purchasing and playing Polling retail partners to find out what games and hardware they are selling Using statistical trend fitting and historical data for similar games Studying resell prices to determine consumer demand and inventory levels Consulting with publishers and manufacturers to find out how many units they are introducing into the channel For all hardware and top 50 software, sales estimates will be arrived at from at least three of the distinct methods listed above to ensure accuracy. For software below the top 50, sales estimates may be arrived at from only one or two of the methods since less data (and time!) is available. VG Chartz holds no responsibility for the use of our weely sales estimates – any business decisions made are made at your own risk." polls, estimates, historical data of similar games. sorry but there you have it on the website itself "about us" its pure estimates. vgchartz should be filed under rumors and the headline should allways contain "sales estimates"
I am agreeing with Darkride?! What the hell is this world coming to...lol. Dark has been right in all of his posts about VGChartz. I dont see what people's big problem with them is. It is virtually impossible to have 100% correct sales data all the time, everyone knows that. But VGC is great because not only do they do weekly, they do it for all markets, and have the game sales for the top 200 titles every week (u need to be a member to see the full list; its free). I dont think they would make those numbers up for all those titles. And they're always close to NPD as well. Also, on their website u can search sales for any game and it will give u the most current figures. That alone makes it worth it. @Ghoul You act as if people dont know they're not official numbers. Its basically rough tracking data, but usually they are within 5-10% of the correct numbers. They simply couldnt operate as a big website if all their data was always completely off, could they?
oh i post this oneliner again "VG Chartz holds no responsibility for the use of our weely sales estimates – any business decisions made are made at your own risk." @above well yes your right on that one
Of course it's Sales Estimates! What did you think they provided? What are we even talking about here? Are you just arguing that estimates from anyone have no place? I suggest you give this article a read. http://radar.oreilly.com/ar... It takes a look at VGchartz and the services provided. Perhaps this will help you to understand what's actually being done here and how it compares to other sources providing sales estimates. At the end of the day, I really don't care if you use the site or not. The only data you should trust is data from the sources themselves, the console makers and publishers (oddly enough, which VGchartz use as well. Does NPD group change their stats when official numbers come out?) Everything else is just meant to give you and ESTIMATE.
VGChartz? hummmmm? @[email protected]
I think there is only one simple question everybody is interested in: where is Killzone 2?!
20th it says if you follow link.
Click the link...jeez
I think Nexy knows that.
Thanks. Well, what strikes is the sales of RE5 against Killzone 2. If you only looked at the internet it seemed the whole world hated RE's old-fashioned control, system and Killzone 2 is going to be a huge success. The real numbers show how deceptive internet fanboys'opinions are Funny.
SCEA is not pushing Killzone 2 in the Americas very well at all. I wouldn't expect the game to sell if it's not advertised. the fact that it's sold close to 700 thousand actually amazes me. If you want to see how well Killzone 2 is being received I'd focus on Europe where the game is getting much more support.
Good point, but it's VG. We'll get the real lo down soon enough.
you are right though. but i about dropped my controller a few nights ago....i actually did see the killzone 2 commercial! i have seen sf4, RE5, and i still see the world of warcraft commercial (the one that has ozzy in it) but i was SHOCKED when killzone 2 came on. needless to say i only seen it once. been watching a lot of the ncaa tournament as well. i live in NC. i gotta pull for my tarheels, but villanova is a tough team this year. anyways vg chartz is an estimate to me, they are always off by a lot. i really don't see the point in getting upset over their numbers anymore. it won't be long til npd anyways.
I've been watching the turnny as well. I think NC will beat Vil. You guys just have a better team. Vil won't roll over easily but I think in the end NC just has more talent. I saw one commercial for Killzone 2 as well but it was before the game released. And I keep wondering why SCEA isn't taking the chance that the NCAA tournament is providing them to sell the sh*t out of this game. Oh well, we'll see a butt load of advertising for Infamous when that release date draws near. I wouldn't be surprised if that game sold better in the Americas then Killzone 2. Worldwide, however, I don't think it will pass Killzone 2.
you say what my g/f says lol. tarheels do have a great team. villanova is just really aggressive offensively. hope unc comes to play, because i think vil. is going to bring it. i just don't wanna underestimate them like the sports critics around here do. but i will say the oklahoma game kinda shocked me. oh well i will be supporting my boys in carolina blue either way. damn game doesn't come on though til around 9 pm my time sat night. anyways good convo man. take care.
SF4 commercial? I think I may have seen that once or twice. But yeah I rarely see the K2 commercial, but even then, why no in-game footage for a follow-up commercial? I mean, did they really only do ONE commercial?
yes i only seen the killzone 2 commercial once. i have seen the sf4 commercial a few times. i have also seen the resident evil 5 commercial a good bit. the world of warcraft ad i have seen the most of. ozzy says and he is right "i been the prince of darkness since 1979!" the killzone comercial was the first one i seen from sony or about a sony game in forever on t.v. a while back though when me and the lady went to the movies sony ran an ad before the movie started and it showed many games. it was just a good complete advertisement for the ps3 in general. but as far as tv ads go sony doesn't seem to do them. when they do a price cut for the ps3, which will happen, they better advertise the hell out of it. i have no idea why sony doesn't advertise more in the media.
That was the first thing I thought of.
VGcharts bad in the US VGcharts good in Europe Gotcha ;)
US charts scare me.It looks like the most powerful nation on earth has an average IQ of 62.Buy the good games.I thought the UK was bad but EU look like gaming saints compared to US.It's a shame it's the biggest market because it makes the future of games look bleak.Heavy Rain will be a dying breed.
Alan Wake will sell just fine. :D Heavy Rain? D:
@8.1 Did Americans have an IQ of 62 when they bought 100 million PS1's and PS2's? Or do you just have a very short memory, and a HUGE PS3 fanboy complex? Americans have supported Nintendo, Atari, Sony, Sega, and Microsoft at different times during the last 20-30 years. You should think twice before you insult an entire country because your console of choice is trailing the competetion. BTW - what did you think of Europeans when consoles such as Master System and Saturn were more popular there than in the US?
very good point soxfans. racist people and/or ignorant people like that should be banned by the mods. However, racist comments like this are rarely deleted. o well. Edit: the comment was deleted so i stand corrected. Thx u very much. Racism has no place here.
VGcharts is the source give me a break we haven't had this for a long time who ever started this should beat himself up!.