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Xbox 360 version of Final Fantasy XIII crippled? Not likely

GB:

"I am betting that the main difference will be mostly related to disc swapping. The biggest clue was when Kitase made it a point to indicate that the PS3 version of the game won't be hampered by disc swapping issues due to the Blu-ray player. Since the mediocre Blue Dragon game used three DVD discs it does make one wonder how many discs Final Fantasy XIII will be on.

The game will hit Japan exclusively on the PS3 this year. Gamers overseas will have to wait to get their hands on this title April of next year courtesy of Microsoft and Square Enix. However, one thing is for sure, regardless of which platform you get it on the game will be awesome." (Final Fantasy XIII, Xbox 360)

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MURKERR  +   2097d ago
looking at the graphics i just dont believe its using..
anywhere near 100% of ps3s power, mgs4 looks better,let alone kz2 and uncharted 2, SE have lost some of their magic, they have not evolved as developers and personally i wasnt impressed graphically of the videos that i saw, gameplay wise i hope its awesome ...
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thor  +   2097d ago
Saying "100% of the PS3's power" is stupid.

I could write a program in 2 seconds that just went into an infinite loop on each SPU and it would be using 100% of the PS3's "power", in that the SPUs would be at maximum capacity. But it wouldn't do anything.

Square Enix could have written poorly designed, badly written code that uses up 100% of the PS3's power, but have poor art design, and end up with a game that not only looks bad, but that has poor framerate and resolution.

Uncharted doesn't use the SPUs much - it could probably be done on the Xbox 360, I don't think a port would be too difficult. It looks so good because of excellent coding, great art design and clever tricks to make the most out of the engine. MGS4 looks so good because they spent so much time polishing every last detail, and optimising their code. If you looked at it, I doubt it would actually use 100% of the PS3's raw processing power.

Killzone 2 has been designed for the PS3 from the start, right down to its rendering system. This allows it to have amazing lighting by using the SPUs. But it has to be planned that way; I very much doubt that a multiplatform engine by Square Enix on their first PS3 coding attempt will be designed with the PS3 at the forefront.
Sarcasm  +   2097d ago
Don't be too surprised if the 360 version ends up looking the same or *gasp* slightly better.

This is SE's first PS3 title, I don't believe they'll get the best results out of the PS3 just yet.
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coolfool  +   2097d ago
Sarcasm
Yes this is the first game on the PS3 from SE but this has been designed from the ground up on the PS3. This isn't a port. Add this to the amount of time they have been developing the game for and I expect an engine that is essentially optimised for the PS3.

Now, I am not sure how this would change since the decision to put the game in the 360. It probably has affected how game has been designed from that point onwards. The port will always have to be considered.
hay  +   2097d ago
Let's see the final build. According to the 50%/100% use of PS3 it should be about 2 times better than actual gameplay screenies or videos.
Also I read somewhere that trailer footage and demo is from 2008 build, we have 2009 now. Anyone remember KZ2?
el_bandito  +   2097d ago
Hi everyone just an OT post: Since FFXIII is going to Japan first, would there be a feature for english subs? Pardon my ignorance, I have cousins in Japan..Just wondering maybe I could ask them to send me a copy.Thanks in advance.
lilgringo  +   2097d ago
Who the hell disagreeds with thor? He is absolutely right.
You people disagrees with anything, and i'll prove it.
lilgringo  +   2097d ago
The Earth isn't flat!

(Just wait for it...)
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Death  +   2097d ago
A couple things,
The game engine is not PS3 specific, it's a multi-platform engine developed on PC for all platforms. FF like many first gen games was started it's life prior to the PS3 dev kits being released. Second, why does a game have to look like anything in order to use "100%"?There is more to games then graphics. This early in the PS3's lifecycle I am sure devs don't know what 100% actually is, but it is clear Square said this to try and reassure PS3 fans that the game will be great on the PS3. You can look at this statement and over analyze it all you like, but you are missing the point.

-Death

p.s. everyone knows the world is flat like the Sun. You can see for yourself later today as it starts it's daily revolution around the Earth.
Shadow Flare  +   2097d ago
"Xbox 360 version of FFXIII will not be crippled"
April fools
BlackPrince 42  +   2097d ago
@thor
According to Naughty Dog they used about 1/3 of the PS3's SPU power, so that may be possible for a 360 to run. No one can speak to MGS4 since Konami and KP never said how many SPUs they used. But it's irrelevant since both games take up more space than a DVD9 could hold.

As for FF13, the game is being built first and foremost as a Playstation 3 game, then ported to 360 once it's finished. From what we've been told, the White Engine wasn't designed with multiplatform use in mind since the beginning. The decision to do that came later after development had already started, hence the skepticism about the 360 port.
Pixel_Addict  +   2097d ago
More...
Speculation and assumsion by some unknown know it all. Is this guy a experienced PS3/360 developer or a game designer of any kind? Who knows how the game will be on the 360. The only thing that IS known; the 360 version will have multiple discs. How many, who knows? Besides, if you own a PS3, then guess what? You'll be playing the PS3 version. If you own a 360, you guess it stupid, you'll be playing the 360 version. So what does it matter? It is what it will be, get over it and get a life. But... If you own a PS3 then you can probably buy the game overseas and play it on your region free US PS3.... ahhh another great feature of the PS3.
AAACE5  +   2097d ago
I think it's funny how when FFXIII was a Ps3 exclusive, every Ps3 owner said how great it looked. But with it being multiplatform, now they don't believe it looks that great and don't believe it will use that much power. Could it be that they fear the 360 is close to the Ps3's power as some developers said? I don't know.

Before you judge the statement of using almost 100% of Ps3's power, keep in mind that FFXIII will be a far larger game than the ones with high graphics that you guys pointed out.

Power doesn't just mean graphics. It also represents animations,A.I., etc. Keep in mind that we will be getting a FF game which looks to play more like DMC 4. MGS 4's action didn't move as fast as this game will.

We haven't seen the final product yet, so it's too early to judge. The only people who feel like they should are fanboys.

Also, it will be interesting to see how MS' new development kit will benefit this game.
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likedamaster  +   2097d ago
Most of you posting here sound extremely insecure(Murkerr) because someone said FFXIII will look just as good on 360. All of a sudden, FFXIII doesn't look as good as MGS4, Uncharted, etc. What a joke you fanboys are!

This is good news for 360 fans that don't have a ps3 and still want to play this game especially with all the FFXIII on 360 bashing by the Sony fans lately.

Glad to hear it will look and play just as good on 360. More games on more consoles = win.

Btw, this is a 360 post and Open Zone... that way---->
ThanatosDMC  +   2096d ago
April Fools!
Rainstorm81  +   2096d ago
It was square-enix
that came out and said 100% of ps3 power. Naughty Dog said the same of uncharted 2. The little one minute blurred gameplay footage looks better than all the clips of FF13 ive seen. Thats why ps3 fans have their doubts. As for uncharted 1 being possible on xbox360

April Fools!!!!

Uncharted: Drakes Fortune (2007) > Gears of War 2 (2008)

http://kineticninja.blogspo...
SuperM  +   2096d ago
"However, one thing is for sure, regardless of which platform you get it on the game will be awesome"

Why does people say this all the time about all types of games not released yet. Its certainly not sure that the game will be awesome until we have it in our hands and can judge it for ourselves.
Saigon  +   2096d ago
I have to admit
The only reason I have doubt is because I feel this game has been dumb down for the 360...you know the same situation for GTA4...
indysurfn  +   2096d ago
what the!
lets test your statement. Assassins Creed was written from the ground up for PS3, and ported to the xbox360. And on the xbox360 it had twice the frame rate, better textures, and way better AI according to the developer. SO your statement has nothing to do with reality! Most of the madden games, and NBA games where written for PS3 from the ground up (except the last year), and still have twice the frame rate, and better AI, and graphics on the 360. The list goes on, and on! They can port it to xbox360, and up the texture quality, and the frame rate, and if they have time the AI. All in a months time!

It does not matter that you think one of your games(KZ2) saved your system. It took from 2004 to 2009 to make that game and it is only a shooter! How many times does the PS3 have for that to happen? Another five years, and it will be 2014. Cheering about one game is like the Detroit lions celebrating about 'A' win!

Big-freaking-deal lets see you do it again. I would be embarrassed about celebrating my first graphical win after more than two years. I would change a disk every 20-40 hours which only takes 5-10 seconds. Then wait a extra 5-10 seconds every other level, like you will on the 33-40% slower loading blu-ray disk. All the hypocrisy, no a single Sony fantoy complained about disks when it was PS1 and PS2. Now they act like they would sacrafice graphics, fast loading, AI, frame rate(which effects gameplay), and smooth ONLINE play for just having one disk. FANTOYS PLEASE!

Hello retard GTA is better on the xbox360!
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MURKERR  +   2096d ago
likedamaster, before you call someone out do it with intelligence
my comment has nothing whatsoever to do with the how well the 360 version looks, im refferring to the claim of using a 100% of the ps3s power which this game certainly is not, READ MY COMMENT SON.

we heard the same stories in the ps2 era then god of war came out,ps3s still in its infancy and developers are only now learning the architecture so 100% usage so soon for a game that graphically is not the best on ps3 i dont believe simple as

i cant believe i even wasted my time replying to your retarded comment
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CaseyRyback_CPO  +   2096d ago
Oh my god folks. Stop. Just stop.. The 360 console uses dvd, the best looking and performing engine it can handle is the Unreal engine. Its been t...
The 360's only saving grace for graphic arguments is a "possibility" that it can run advanced engines, and a cryengine tech demo from 2009. Some of you have more faith in nothing than some other religions. Since there is absolutely no physical ammunition for the ridiculous idea that the 360 can hang with a SPU optimized engine, we just have to take everyones word for it. And we will continue to do so more than likely until this generation is over.

FF13 will be gimped to run on the 360 from the PS3 version, have you seen what the PS3 can do? Uncharted, Killzone2, MGS4 are all games that run circles around any game ever designed for a 360 single or multiple Dvd's. Want to compare Race Pro with Gran Turismo Prologue? Bioshock with Kz2? There is absolutely no disputing this. You can pretend that one day developers will push the 360's true power, when the truth is they have, and they constantly run into walls while trying to do so, because its underpowered to run these PC style specification games.

Every single silly argument about the 360's superiority due to multipalts all falls apart when you look at the terrible 360 ports/games that have been created, for example.. Bully, A ps2 game ran utterly terrible on the 360. Now, does that mean that the 360 can't run bully? and that the PS2 is superior? No. It means its bad coding, which is why multiplats that look and perform no where near ps3 exclusives have slight advantages on the 360. Big shock there when you have developers crying about how impossible it is to develop for, and your Gabe Newells throwing the console under the bus because of how it cant be used for games.

But whats hilarious is how all of you try to pretend that multiplatform development is where hardware power is shown, its not. its exclusives. And the last time I checked, No 360 exclusive can even touch uncharted at all levels: Resolution,Framerate/StreamLoa ding,Animation,Lighting,texture &shader networks, NOTHING. Again, you can pretend because Gears2 looks good from far away when you squint your eyes, that that equals Uncharted, it just plain doesn't. Neither does Alan wake compared to anything running on a PS3. And this is just by juding from a pc tech demo and a trailer that had no lighting or facial animation in it.

MLB09 walks all over Mlb2k, its as if its night and day. Everyone tries to pretend 'oh thats just because they spend the time to do the graphics!'No, its because they are capable developers who have advanced hardware to program for. Not worry that high res textures wont fit on a dvd.

Why doesn't TOO HUMAN or AlAN Wake clearly look superior to pS3 titles considering the development time, or hell. Even the Wheelman. if time = graphics. Why does every Tri-Ace game look terrible? Why does gears2 look exactly like gears1?

This is why the PS3 community is completely upset at ff13 becoming multiplat, not because the 360 community gets to play it, no thats a good thing!! Its because Ff13 was looking to be an amazing ps3 optimized game, much the uncharteds and mgs4's in the world. really amazing experiences that make you appreciate how far technology has come, which no game on the 360 has been able to pull off since Gears1. The ps3 version will be compromised for the 360's shortcomings when it comes to performance, and this very well may mean it will run inferior to the 360 version. But a PS3 specific engine runs superior to any effort the 360 has shown to date.

No one here can honestly sit here and say they would rather Ff13 use the Gears of War 2 engine over the KZ2 engine for future titles to make them look better and closer to holy mother Crysis.

No offense intended, but give credit where credit is due. When the 360 has games that can hang with uncharted, we all know N4G will explode, and no one will deny it. Then we will just have to wait for kz3 :).
TheRealSpy  +   2096d ago
@Murkerr
i don't get what you're saying.

SE lost their edge? correct me if i'm wrong, but when have final fantasy in game engines ever been the cutting edge of graphics technology? i mean the cut scenes are always beautiful. that's what final fantasy games are really known for. and it's not like it's a bad looking game. but i don't remember anyone ever hailing any FF games as the new graphical standard. they are just good games with good music and usually a great story.

still can't make up my mind which system to get this on...but i guess i have a year to decide.
Saigon  +   2096d ago
@indysurfn
your second sentence is incorrect...AC was not dev on the the PS3 first...it was the other way around...

Why do people have to lie to try and claim a point...if you want to look at a game that was dev on the PS3 first and ported to the 360...please look at Burnout Paridise from Criterion Games...it was one of the first games that was dev on the PS3 first and ported to the 360...and its actually one of the best looking games...

GTA4...yes it was better a little visualy on the 360...but the game was dump down inorder to fit the content needed in the game...for example look at all the areas that looked like you could enter but were not available...why...disk limitations...its the biggest thing hurting the 360...
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thesummerofgeorge  +   2096d ago
I just miss playing great RPGs...
Hopefully some new company will come along one of these days and fill the void left by Square. I need my RPG fix, and I need it fast.
Microsoft Xbox 360  +   2097d ago
Poor Xbots.

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San Frandisco  +   2097d ago
@ 360
lol nice dude,i like for the fact the pic shows that the CD's are in a ps1 style casing lol.. LAST-GEN property ONLY on XBOX!
pandabear  +   2097d ago
That picture is nothing short of fanboyism - 1 one those discs is a bonus disc :-)
syanara  +   2097d ago
@1.2
Lighten up dude its all in good fun,

anyways @ article

here the situation if its not downgraded on the 360 version then both versions will be the same meaning It CANT use 100% of the ps3's power so they gotta be lieing one way or another.
Marcelles25  +   2096d ago
1.3 IT WAS A JOKE
he was saying no its not like that 1 disc is a bonus disc but theres still seven discs
evilmonkey501  +   2096d ago
verry funny
Who knows... it might be how it really is....THEY DID SAY built for ps3 first... then ported, so....who knows what to expect...but one thing is for sure...this game will rock no matter what system you play.(buying mine for the ps3 though, just because.)
Chris Hansen  +   2097d ago
You guys should go back and watch that trailer on PSN/XBL. The CG scenes, I admit, are insanely good but if you look at the actual gameplay battles, they are very mediocre and low res. Check out the battle scene where Lightning is fighting those dogs in the snow/ice area; the backgrounds looked like it came from a PS2 game.

100% of PS3? My ass.
morganfell  +   2097d ago
SO the 360 version will not have compressed sound? Why do people like to forget that part.
MisterNiwa  +   2097d ago
Because..
Microsoft and Square Enix do everything to say that the XBOX is a great system and can do anything the ps3 could too.

I bet if FF13 would be ported from 360 to PS3 it would be like: Oh well we gonna have problems with the ram and everything so we cant say its a 1:1 port!

Well.. Square Enix lost their shine. I cant wait to see Kingdom Hearts 3 for 360 and PS3 unless Nomura does something about it.

-_-
M-Easy  +   2097d ago
Lol Chirs Hansen
Sorry I cant focus on your comment even though it was 100% correct. All I can see is you saying:

"Have a seat, yeah right there. So what did you think was going to happen here tonight? Oh just hang out, with a 13 year old girl? So why all the alcohol?" Oh and you brought condoms? Why is that okay?

I fear Hansen more than Satan.
Doctor_Doom  +   2097d ago
@morganfell
Can you tell us the differences between compressed and uncompressed sound ??

I bet you can't even tell us the differences if you heard them in real life. lol
SpoonyRedMage  +   2097d ago
The way compression works, like in .mp3s is that the inaudible parts of the file are got rid off. Although if you compress a sound file too much it will lose a lot of quality.
SaiyanFury  +   2097d ago
@ 2.4 Jimmy Page

The difference between compressed and uncompressed sound is most noticeable with a proper audio/video receiver with a minimum of 5.1 surround sound. A compressed signal, that most games these days use would be an example of Dolby Digital. It's a compressed digital audio codec that is optimised for sound through a 5 speaker system coupled with a subwoofer. Dolby Digital is encoded at a bitrate of 640kbps, while an uncompressed 5.1 signal has a bitrate of usually 4mbps. The difference lies in quality. An uncompressed signal typically sounds much clearer and has more bass through the subwoofer than a compressed signal. The bitrate is uncompressed which gives superior sound quality. To a home theatre fan, the difference is like night and day. Even the PS3 games now using the DTS 5.1 codec which is recorded at a bitrate of 1.5mbps is over twice the quality of standard Dolby Digital. Blu-ray lets developers use less compressed codecs and the audio experience is better on PS3 simply because of the availability of disc space. It might not be different for people with a normal TV, and no A/V receiver, but for those of us with equipment that can differentiate low end and high end, it's very audible, which is best.
boodybandit  +   2097d ago
@Jimmy Page
Compressed vs Uncompressed (depending on your sound hardware) is just as, if not more so, comparable to the differences between DVD vs BluRay.

I'm not talking about guys that are using a HTIB setup (even though some of my friends using an HTIB wear they hear the differences as well) but to people that own decent quality equipment (especially to those that have TRUE DD 7.1/TRUE DTS 7.1) with speakers to match.

I have noticed differences between most PS3 vs 360 multiplatform titles. Some times there are discrete differences and other times they are significant but I always notice "some" differences.

Some PS3 exclusives are in a league of their own as far as sound quality goes. Listen to Warhawk, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, MGS4, etc.. using HDMI on the equipment I listed above and then come back here and tell me you can't hear a difference.

But then again I probably wouldn't be surprised if you don't. Some people still swear there is barely a difference between upscaling DVD's vs BluRay. Go figure.

BTW I am not taking any news / rumors posted here today or tomorrow seriously. I have a bad feeling this place is going to be over run with a ton of misleading information and wishful thinking being posted as stone cold facts.
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ThanatosDMC  +   2096d ago
You need to have surround sound to notice the difference... a nice setup of speakers. Great to play KZ2 if you're surrounded by speakers connected to your PS3... makes you wanna shoot your teammates for sneaking up on you.
Ldubbz  +   2096d ago
Sound?
So now its about sound?

First off, few games even use uncompressed sound.

Second, 99% of people wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

Third, very few people have the right kind of setup to completely get everything out of that audio.

Dolby Digital, even at 640Kbps, is nearly indistinguishable from uncompressed sound, especially if you dont have very good speakers.

Not to mention while video games have increasingly better and better sound, they still terribly pale in comparison to the sound quality of a big-budget movie, where there is a huge team of people dedicated to sound mixing
SaiyanFury  +   2096d ago
I'm forced to laugh at the person who disagreed with me. Everything I stated is simple fact. It's not my own opinion, it's just simple, technical fact.
PirateThom  +   2097d ago
" April 1, 2009 | Xbox 360 version of Final Fantasy XIII crippled? Not likely
By Mike Ferro"

April Fool!

Any news posted today = instantly April Fools Gag.
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Death  +   2097d ago
And how do we know your post is not the April fools gag?
-Death
HemiHalo  +   2096d ago
Every news article on this site is a joke, not just on April Fool's Day.
frayer  +   2097d ago
News because?
donnie-2105  +   2097d ago
the 360 having a crippled multi format game? time and again its been shown that when both consoles have versions of the same game the xboxs is better even when ps3 is lead dev why should final fantasy be any different.the only advantage for the sony machine will be the extra space for better cutscenes(ie longer) and even this is up for debate.the real question should be will the ps3 cripple the 360s in game action.
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StayHigh  +   2097d ago
someone delusional..lol..
BlackPrince 42  +   2097d ago
Oh boy
That's not true.
ex.
Burnout Paradise
Mirrors Edge
Devil May Cry 4

All built on PS3, all better on PS3 than on 360. A lot of devs have already said if you build a game on PS3 first it will come out better overall than if it was developed with the 360 in mind. Of course if you build a game that embraces the PS3 architecture in a meaningful way it will be very difficult to port to 360.
talltony  +   2097d ago
You obviously
didnt see the chronicles of riddick Dark Athena comparison. Your just being dumb, its not 2008 anymore. So face it, because of bluray alone the ps3 version will be better whether their is technical issues or not.
morganfell  +   2097d ago
Even Team Xbox said GTA IV looked better on the PS3. Sorry but this is a brand new year and you are dealing with an engine built for the PS3.
Arnon  +   2096d ago
@BlackPrince

You named a total of 3 games, bro...

@Morganfell

How can the FFXIII engine be optimized for the Playstation 3 if it is going to be running on the Xbox 360 as well and (from this article) not suffer any hiccups during porting?
morganfell  +   2096d ago
Oh I don't know, how was the unreal 3 engine optimized for the 360 and then had hiccups on the PS3? How did that happen? Whoops.
donnie-2105  +   2096d ago
allthough mirrors edge ect.. are more or less equal on both platforms (but still tipping slightly in 360s favour)where has the gap developed that ps3 only fans were saying would happen when it was made the lead dev platform.
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Arnon  +   2094d ago
"had hiccups"

Why would the 360 have hiccups from the Final Fantasy XIII engine? Every engine that has ever come out that was optimized on the PS3 and then used on the 360 has worked fantastically. Cant say the same for it going from 360 to PS3 though :x
LeonSKennedy4Life  +   2097d ago
well
I don't know.

I see the 360 version being good...but having more issues.

Why is this not obvious?
ULTIMATE_REVENGE  +   2097d ago
@Leon (i know you support the PS3)
don't try to justify a console thats crap, whats wrong with YOU!
evilmonkey501  +   2096d ago
there is no
f%^&ing way the ps3 is crap. Pull your head out of the sand. The ps3 kicks butt. Maybe when you get one you'll know whats up. Don't knock it till you've bought one....same goes for anyone knocking the box...
San Frandisco  +   2097d ago
dude the graphics so far look like ass juice.
They need to think of something quick in terms of visuals since they are gunna be competing with the likes of GoW3 and Uncharted 2.
and from the sounds of it from multiple interviews along with video highlights of the game,they are gunna be focusing on all of gameplay machanics,story, AND graphics regardsless of wut ppl say.
THIS IS NEXT-GEN so lets see some next gen games from SE.

of course im personally waiting in anticipation for VERSUS 13 since i heard its got a mature rating witch can only mean NO LIMITS biatch!
and wen it comes to imagination,theres NO LIMITS! combine the 2 and a masterpiece can fully be created....BUT, "ONLY on Playstation"
Sarcasm  +   2097d ago
I don't know, Ass Juice is looking pretty good.

(Google Image Vida Guerra)
San Frandisco  +   2097d ago
@Sacracsm
no thanx man im good.

PS: 2 disagree's? wut the ef!
watch the gameplay trailer or at least let me know wut ya dissagree about dang man.
Death  +   2097d ago
I gave you another disagree to make it an even 3.
Vesrus is on the same game engine which is multi-platform in origin. Just because it has a different age rating doesn't mean it will have different graphics.

-Death
SpoonyRedMage  +   2097d ago
The graphics from the trailer aren't a good indicator as they've greatly improved, which is what the fiasco was about the 360 dumbing it down. Someone had got a screenshot from the trailer and a recent screenshot(From early this month) and said the latest screenshot was from when it was exclusive. So it has improved.
Mike134nl  +   2097d ago
Still one more year to wait
Omega4  +   2097d ago
Considering SE complained about the PS3's memory (i.e its limited RAM) it wouldnt be too surprising if the 360 version turned out better
Argento-Nox  +   2097d ago
The 360 being on multiple disc already tips this in favor of the PS3 version IMO. Considering half of all sales for FF games are in Japan and the fact it'll be out in Japan 6-12 months prior to a worldwide release, I highly doubt SE could afford to Fcuk up the PS3 release of this game.

Seeing as SE will probably release a special edition PS3 like they're doing with FF: Advent children, I can't see the 360 version being better unless SE really did lie about the game engine being tailor made for the PS3.
PELVIC THRUST ACTION  +   2097d ago
you do know that both the PS3 and 360 have 512 mb of ram. Though the PS3 ram is clocked faster at around 3.2 ghz for the ram while the 360 uses 700 mhz for its ram.
likedamaster  +   2096d ago
LOL @ above^^^^
Fanboys these days. That's main RAM @3.2ghz(because it's cell-based), Video Ram for PS3 is still @700 mhz you douche bag.
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PELVIC THRUST ACTION  +   2096d ago
You still gotta realize that even if one chunk of the ram is 3.2 ghz and the other chunk is 700 mhz, that there's still a chunk of memory that's faster then the 360 as the 360 memory is still all 700 mhz. Though it is split in chunks of 256. The way you say it however is all PS3 memory is 700 mhz and that's false.
testerg35  +   2096d ago
Even though they both have 512mb, I believe ths PS3 OS takes more ram and thus more free ram is available on the 360.
stealthy-guy  +   2097d ago
FAAAAAAAAAAKE!!
Aprils fools guys you can't take anything serious today.

CONFIRMED:sony to cancel uncharted 2 u heard it first ^_^

CONFIRMED:micro&sony merge u heard it first ~_~
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Argento-Nox  +   2097d ago
I think having multiple disc will actually keep graphics levels mostly on par. What I don't like is the fact there are multiple disc to swap in and out to begin with. Fanboys may say swapping disc is much ado about nothing, but I bet they'd answer differently if they were stuck with dvd for the next xbox system after the 360.

Ultimately, I don't think multiple disc will be a major issue affecting sales for people interested in playing on the 360. The major diffential factor between the multi-platform game, is the fact that it's exclusive to PS3 in Japan. No MS horn-blowing is going to make it sell better on the 360, that's an uphill battle that could only be equalized by giving away free 360 copies.
PELVIC THRUST ACTION  +   2097d ago
And you think microsoft is going to allow square to have multi discs without any fees? If id couldn't circumvent those fees from microsoft, you think Square is going to circumvent it? And id is far more well known in the US the Square will ever be.
ceedubya9  +   2097d ago
I don't think DVD's would be a problem for the next Xbox
IF Microsoft takes on more of a PC approach in which all the data from the discs are loaded onto the HDD. Of course, they would have to completely change their tactics as far as HDDs are concerened compared to this gen in order for that to work.

Either way, I think for their next console, HDDs are going to have to be a fixture in every console, especially if they are as big on Digital Downloads as they claim.
indysurfn  +   2096d ago
Not to mention the fact
Not to mention the fact that blu ray discs cost way more anyway. So having multiple disk should be cheaper for the xbox than one blu-ray disk. Plus the xbox disks are 33-40% faster! That translates into more time saved for each area being loaded for a xbox360 game than the slow PS3 discs.
Argento-Nox  +   2096d ago
@PELVIC THRUST ACTION

Lost Odyssey was on 4 dvd's with fluctuating graphic qualities throughout the whole game. What makes you think MS wouldn't make a concession to multi-disc fees to get FFXIII on the 360? It's certainly not going on 1 disc like GTA4 if FFXIII is going to maintain graphics on par with it's PS3 counterpart.

The options like this for MS, put FFXIII on the 360 at all cost, or risk Sony erasing a good portion of the 360 hardware lead within weeks of release of this one game, followed by Versus. I guarantee you, this game is going on no less than 4 disc, no amount of quality compression is going to erase the fact that dual layered dvd's only have 7 GB max, due to MS software on each 360 disc. I hope SE and MS are happy, it'll be a highly downloaded game when it's released on 360.

@ceedubya9

I understand where your coming from, but if dvd loading onto the next x-box system is the de facto way MS do things next gen, why not just do that on a PC to begin with? MS doesn't exactly have a lot of true exclusives, considering most of their MS exclusive games have superior versions on their PC counterpart. I don't even need a crystal ball to know that some of their titles like Fable 2, ME2, Halo wars etc. already have PC versions within their future.

@indysurfn

Dvd's weren't cheap when they first came out either. Give it time, blu-ray will eventually be the media standard, the same way dvd's replaced cd's.

As for the speed issue, last I remember, both PS3 and 360 were on par for data transfer, when taking into consideration blu-rays larger capacity. The load time is more an issue with programming. Take Uncharted 2 for instances, it's got no load between levels. GOW3 apparently will not suffer from load times either, chalk that up to good programming (^_^).
Lawliet  +   2097d ago
Whatever with the graphics. I'd never miss out any FF games. No matter how bad this sh!t turn out to be, I'll still buy it as a collection. I'm looking forward to Versus as well, since I can't get enough with Crisis Core.
ssipmraw  +   2097d ago
there is no way in hell 6 months of development will look better than over 4 years of development.
ssipmraw  +   2096d ago
lol disagrees
cant handle the truth can you
Neo604  +   2097d ago
nice pix Microsoft Xbox 360.
the box look so real with the xbox360 logo. That give you a good idea how you'll bring it home. probably not that much, probably around 9-10 disc if they really want hi res graphic like the ps3 big boyz get.
ambientFLIER  +   2097d ago
10 discs, huh? So It will take up 90 gigs of space? Nice.
Neo604  +   2097d ago
xbox360 fans wouldn't apreciate it.
they only play FPS.

hey check out how it'll look like for the 360 guys when they bring it home.
http://www.n4g.com/ViewComI...
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ceedubya9  +   2097d ago
Bad generalization
of the 360 fanbase.

Final Fantasy goes beyond silly console loyalties. The franchise is much bigger than most other JRPGs out there, and will likely do well on both platforms.

Just because someone has 360 now, that doesn't mean that they didn't/don't have a PS2, PS1, and any other console that Final Fantasy games showed up on.
testerg35  +   2096d ago
Oh wait.. and this is coming from the group that compares KZ2 to everything?
GameOn  +   2096d ago
I don't have one single FPS. Out-grown that genre.
-GametimeUK-  +   2097d ago
huh? b4 it was aanounced on 360 people were saying the graphics are amazing and not possible on 360... All of a sudden the graphics suck?

Moving on... The 360 version will more than likely have superior visuals (like most of the multi plat games this gen)
Why dis  +   2097d ago
No doubt why the disagrees? Don't mind my posts I use iPod touch sometimes when posting.
PELVIC THRUST ACTION  +   2097d ago
The reason everyone thought the graphics were good was because Square was doing the 3d realms defense. They weren't really making a game, but making CGI and claiming it's a game. So while they're sitting on their butts on the Final Fantasy hype train, they're getting Japanese schoolgirl panties and having sniffing contests while they laugh at the world thinking any actual work is being done on Final Fantasy XIII. Nomura is the only person doing anything resembling work, but I'm sure he's also creating more generic art designs that continue to pump out the generic nature of 90% of Jrpgs who follow Square as the prime example for what a Jrpg is.
Why dis  +   2097d ago
e. The only thing that has been a problem with development is PS3 memory says the devs. I don't think the 360 has a problem with memory the dev already said space won't be an issue. I promise you it won't be the 360 version that will be inferior if any. You should skip news related to the 360 when " jack" posts it.
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Doctor_Doom  +   2097d ago
What are you talking about ??
PS3 >>>light year>>>> 3 way GTX295 with overclocked i7 CPU

XD
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mastiffchild  +   2097d ago
SE are so close to MS right now that there's no way in hell that they'll allow the PS3 version to look better even if they could(which I'm not interested in really). Also with them having most sales in Japan for FF games and this still being PS3 exclusive out there they can't let that be inferior either.

Unless they really, badly lose their way they'll do everything possible to ensure the two versions look identical. Anything else would be suicidal, imo.
SpoonyRedMage  +   2097d ago
They're not that close to MS though, but yer I think you're right but considering it's being ported to 360 after it there's either going to be issues or MS is going to have to compromise. Those New Dev Kits would certainly help(but it wouldn't solve the problems).

Anyway, I have faith in Kitase.
PELVIC THRUST ACTION  +   2096d ago
Oh look a picture of the MS and Square relationship

Related image(s)
Argento-Nox  +   2096d ago
The true irony of it all is the fact Sony are about 10% shareholders of SE, so they make money either way. I'm sure it'll sell fine for MS, my cousin already plans to buy it for his 360. I'm just skeptical about MS's claim it will outsell the PS3 version, especially when you consider that japanese games like RE5 generally sell more on the PS3 worldwide, RE5 (PS3) is still in the top 30 in Japan for sales.

Unlike RE5 though, FFXIII is exclusive to Sony in Japan. Take into consideration that anyone who knows about FFXIII, probably knows of Versus's (that's so far PS3 exclusive worldwide) and it's like 2 daggers thrust into the same heart (-_-);;.
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Dark_king  +   2097d ago
You can say anything you want but the ps3 version will be better there is no argument about that.Just fitting it on to 3 or 4 dvd's will cause that.

And for April fools day fake news MGS5 to be the first game to use the 100 gig Bluray Disc and will use all of it.wait that could be real lol
Sir Ken_Kutaragi  +   2097d ago
"FF XIII uses 100% of the PS3's power" ???
MY @SS!!! ;-D

Does any PS3 Fan trust what SE say anymore??? Hmm...
Eiffel  +   2097d ago
Who honestly trusts what you say?
Mc187  +   2096d ago
lol
Burn!
Marcelles25  +   2096d ago
dude yeah that means it wouldnt be able to run on 360 if it took up 100 percent of the ps3's power
Nergardless  +   2097d ago
i hate ms for turning this game multiplat
seriously we only get it later because after the release they start to translate and port the game from ps3 to xbox and for the rest of the world this means til se is able to handle the disc issue and the graphic issue (im sure they will need more time for that then to translate it)and if there is a delay of the release remember my words
thx go out to ms
Death  +   2097d ago
What about Sony?
If there were 45 million PS3's worldwide instead of 20 million, do you think we would be having this conversation? Shouldn't Sony be atleast partially responsible for Sony's position in the console market?

As for the delay, google the launch dates for FFXII which was an exclusive Playstation game and tell me how long localization took. I'll give you a hint, it's about the same as the wait for FFXIII. A different team will port the game. Localization will occur during this same time.

-Death
Argento-Nox  +   2096d ago
@Death

The problem with what your saying is many. Firstly, FFXII came in the later half of the PS2 life cycle when every developer knew how to produce games for the PS2. It was never ported to the xbox1, so you have nothing valid for comparison.

Your statement is even more erroneous when you take into consideration that it's no longer just language localization, but proper partitioning of FFXIII over multiple disc for the 360 version. Even SE mentioned that they would only start the localization process after the PS3 release in Japan.

How the fcuk are any of us, including SE themselves, going to know how long the process is going to take, when they've never had to do a multi-platform game for the last 2 gens?
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thexmanone  +   2097d ago
Worried
It sounds like to me the PS3RD fan boys are worried the 360 version will be better.
MaximusPrime  +   2097d ago
im not even interested in FF13.

I want FF7 remake
gersh  +   2096d ago
I don't think it's even possible that the 360 version can turn out better.
Samwise  +   2097d ago
I have both systems and regardless if one looks better than the other, I 'll be getting the ps3 version just so I don't have to swap disks.
hossammilan  +   2097d ago
"However, one thing is for sure, regardless of which platform you get it on the game will be awesome."
That line said it all.
onijutsu  +   2096d ago
i get so confused by disagrees on comments sometimes
2 disagrees on the fact that the game will be awesome regardless of which console it is on...
sounds like some ps3 fanboys are still sour about ff13 being multiplat
(i own a ps3 and a wii only, so don't call me a xbox360 fanboy).

"However, one thing is for sure, regardless of which platform you get it on the game will be awesome."
QFT
maverick1191  +   2097d ago
thexmanone

how will it be better ps3 = one disc xbox = 4+ discs and it bet it will still be compressed us ps3 owners have to wait longer because its getting ported to the xbox we could all have it the same time as japan pritty much
shocky16  +   2097d ago
Blue Dragon isn't mediocre
I enjoyed it. =(
ceedubya9  +   2097d ago
I enjoyed it too.
Didn't finish it though. I probably will at some point. You can get it on the cheap right now.
Nergardless  +   2097d ago
@death
yeah u right in the way you answered, of course it starts with sony not paying more to stay exclusive on ps but i meant it in the way if there will be a delay than thats fdup because ms bought it and square isn't able to handle it and as some people already said ms won't accept a version that doesnt look at least 95% like the ps-version and if this situation isnt causing a delay i'll eat a horse ,so i let my anger out cause i will have to wait longer than april2010 only because things arent running as usual this gen
-yes im a ego and now that a own a ps3 i can care less that people not owning a ps3 also want to enjoy this epic game

-dont take this too serious
ceedubya9  +   2097d ago
Don't worry too much
The Japanese version isn't even out yet. And they aren't doing the 360 version until localization starts for the game for the other markets. Porting to the 360 probably won't hold anything up. Localization usually seems to take a long time in itslef anyway. We usually have to wait almost a year to get a localized FF game in the US.
ali312  +   2097d ago
Zelda on the SNES I believe ( In my opinion ) is the best RPG to date. JRPG suck big time. You can disagree all you like but you will find most of the western gaming world agree. The proof is in the worldwide sales sales
bigjclassic  +   2096d ago
Counter
World wide sales you say..

Mainly the Dragon Quest, Monster Hunter, Final Fantasy and Pokemon games sell way more than any Western made RPG ever. Don't say things that aren't fact.
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