OXCGN:
"So GDC's brought a couple of surprises so far. A new Zelda for the DS, third party motion controls for 360, a new Ratchet & Clank for our PS3 comrades, and the entry of Warner Bros to the fray that may well have had fanboys disorientated and asking "Errr… what's up doc?"
But where's the goods from Microsoft? Some would lead you to believe that Microsoft has announced its full line up just like they had this time last year… oh yeah, that's the problem…
Compounding this is Microsoft's stated decision to hold back holiday releases further than last year and to extend the scope of announcements into the first quarter of 2009.
And whilst we're sure most titles will be held until E3, there are ten titles that we reckon have a shot at being showcased at GDC. Which one will it be?"
List and poll after the jump:
Not looking too promising for 360 owners.
Wow, I get a disagree for saying E3 is in Q2.
Let's wait till E3, then we all can start talking about game lineups for the 2009 year.
Edit:
@ above
Someone sure is getting defensive....What new games did Microsoft announce at last year's E3 that came out last year?
360 owners will be fine. There are more games to play besides first party exclusives. 3rd party games do STILL matter. I'd understand if there were no games coming to the console at all.
i seriously feel bad for 360 owners. im not joking
its getting worse and worse everyday.
im going to get bubble raped but i dont care. M$ is fuucking up
I am not saying anything about 1st/3rd party...or even exclusives for that matter...When MS announced FFXIII coming to the XBox, 360 fans were happy....Silence is unbecoming of MS
Well, they were pretty quiet around this time last year too. If it hadn't been for the Gears 2 annoucement....Actually, Gears 2 is the only thing I remember from Microsoft at last year's GDC, lol. Oh well, I guess we'll see how things turn out. Still a lot of year left. Microsoft will either show up this year or they won't.
You have to admit...Gears2 was a pretty big announcement...they really didn't need anything else
I doubt they will simply let their fanbase out in the cold. It's likely that exclusives for 360 will start popping out close to E3, that's how Microsoft works.
I wouldn't be very surprised if Alan Wake, Halo: ODST, a Rare game and Halo Chronicles hit the 360 in december, along with Bioshock 2 as a timed exclusive. I would have said Mass Effect 2 but I think devs have already confirmed a 2010 release.
Which is probably why I don't remember anything else from them at last year's GDC. I know there had to be something else, but I just can't remember, and don't feel the need to research it right now. lol.
But you're right, Gears 2 was big enough to overshadow anything else Microsoft had at the moment.
MS may announce a multiplat MGS title to be released in 2012 and some 360 guys would say 'MS won E3', kinda sounds like deja vu ¬_¬. To me it would just be MS papering over the cracks again. Truth be told we all want more exclusives, fanboys and the hardcore gamers even more so, so for some to be acting like they're not concerned is a lie or an extreme display of nativity at best.
Kudos to Green above for being honest You get +1
does this article reads like it was published a cople of days late...with a couple of updates to make it look new...last I heard nothing was announced from the MS camp...so why would users vote on which games they would like to see from MS and GDC is pretty much over...
in all honesty microsoft needs to step up their game...announcing a true banjo and kazooie game, perfect dark, conker, killer instinct, forza....any of these will be great announcements...but basically MS needs to use that rare license to the best of their abilities...
stop with all the DLC and give 360 owners some great next gen rare games and back up all the development of those games with your own money instead of securing the multiplatform status of games and exclusive DLC
Heck, if all they had were Avatar clothing packs for 2009, you can bet they'd twist some arms to get media outlets to hype them as full games.
is really stupid if they do have exclusive games coming out that they arent talking about. WHy wouldnt microsoft not want you to be excited for new content this year? Still they are probably not stupid, they just dnt have anything this year. which sux!
There they will announce Lips 2 and You're in the Movies 2.
/sarcasm (not really) (well kinda)
Do I really need to add the tag?
Okay I will.
/Sarcasm
There.
:)
OXCGN's number 1 pick and I think the reader poll as well and mine too ---- Mass Effect 2!
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1) First of all, they confused the word "multi platform" with the word "exclusiveS". Its funny how the xbot mentiones "exclusives" in his article as if the 360 actually has any exclusives.
People let me tell you, there is no such thing as "exclusivity" on the 360. Exclusivity is pretty much NON EXISTENT on the 360. Thats simply a fact.
Bioshock, Lost Planet, Left 4 dead, Fable 2, Mass Effect, Ninja Gaiden, Ace Combat, Tales of, even the fking flop Blue Dragon, they all end up on other platforms like the PC and the PS3.
2) Its funny how the xbot used the word "360" frequently as if the 360 is a worthy console. But he should have used the word "delay60" instead.
Everyone knows 360 is finished. They have no noteworthy games, unless youre a delusional xbot. Because delusional xbots are so desperate, they hype every POS to heaven, like Ninja flopblade and flop wars.
Everyone knows 360 has no games to play. Unless youre xbot: "but, but, but...wait till E3"
You sound very bitter.
That's why Sony doesn't sell exclusives like Microsoft, they overhype and talk about games WAY to early. Killzone 2 should have sold millions already, but hasn't come close, because Sony has an awful marketingdepartment and they announce games years in advance, so people stop caring after awhile, the game loses it's spark after so long.
"But but but just wait for E3!!!! You'll be sorry!!!!!" Hilarious.
anyway.. i don't think anyone is going to be bummed if GOW3 gets pushed to march because there are just too many big ones coming out this year from the sony's camp alone. and not forget... the third parties too.
You can't count Halo, Splinter Cell, that was a series , like Call of Duty, where you ASSUME another game is coming out. Also, I remember playing Splinter Cell on PS2. Too human and Alan wake yes, they are taking a long time, but the difference is, for alan wake, is that there just is no talk about it. Sony talks these games up like nobodys business when they arnt be released for years. Halo Wars hasn't been TOO long, nothing like KZ2 and GoW3. What about Gears 2, it was announced last spring. Halo 3 was announced a year prior to it's released. You can't count games that are EXPECTED to have a sequel too. I am talking about the company ANNOUNCING the game. Too human, yes, and look what happened to it, it flopped. They hype was too great for that game and it destroyed it. Didn't sell like they thought would. Sounnds like Killzone 2 to me and soon to be God of War 3. People expect miracles when they are waiting for that long, and when they get a good product, it's tarnished immediately because the hype says the game should play like jesus made it.
You sound hilarious when you count Micrsoft out, when it's ONLY MARCH. Tell me 1 year where Microsoft hasn't announced Triple A games to be released the same year? You can't find one since the 360 has been out. EVERYONE knows, even PS3 fanboys, that E3 is Microsofts event. Sony will stand there with some more "leaked" footage of God of War 3 and MAYBE a minimal price drop. Wow, sounds like E3 will be GREAT for Sony?!
That game was announced and before I knew it, it was released, not a two year cycle like most PS3 exclusives.
wow.. man lot's a words. how about you channel your anger towards the root cause that is - MS not announcing the games regularly so that you don't have to go around defending. at the rate you're exploding, it sounds like Sony is doing a great job announcing exclusives now and then.
i mean... look at the PS3 users, they're all sitting peacefully knowing exactly what games they'll be getting this year and next year. the only time they argue is when the subject of which game (that too all PS3 games mind you) has better graphics arises.
chill dude... E3 is not that far away. q:
And you keep mentioning GOW 3 in Spring 2010, that would only be 18 months after it was first revealed. There's still a good chance of it coming this year. And as for Halo Wars- announced September 2006, released March 2009. That's 2 and a half years.
You know.. we well see how many games will sony delay till 2010.. same was 2007 and 2008 and 2009.
And we would still have 10 times more Triple A to play with than the delay60.
"but, but, but, E3"
You're post is filled with fanboyism, it's pathetic. Pockets have some breathing room? I guess you must only have 60 dollars for killzone 2, because the ps3 has nothing else right now. If they delay there games, name me those 10 games coming out that will be Triple A worthy over the 360.
Yeah, E3 is going to shut you fanboys up. Congrats on Sony releasing Killzone 2 in February, when they should have released it in November, where they could have made more money. But, R2 came out and, well, that flopped. It's only 3 months into the year and people already think the year is said and done for.
Listen moron, Microsoft's markerting department is light years ahead of sony's. Microsoft knows that releasing it's full lineup on January 2, like Sony does, is not the way to go. Every year fanboys claim victory when sony releases their lineup immediately, then when E3 comes and microsoft blows everyone away, it comes back to bite Sony fanboys in the butt.
There is a reason WHY Microsoft is ahead of Sony this gen, it's called a solid marketing department. People don't want to wait YEARS for a game to come out that was announced. It makes more sense for a company to release a game 4 months after they announce it, so the spark for the game and the desire is still there, not like what Sony did for Killzone 2. Sure, the fanboys couldn't wait, but everyone just got sick of waiting and it lost it's mega-hype. That's Sonys brilliant stragety.
Cough Cough... God of War 3, I have been hearing about this game for years now, and now its pushed till Sprin of 2010. Sony, shut your f'n mouth and announce games when they are 6 months away from being released.
Microsoft's marketing department is light years ahead of Sony's marketing Dept. However, Sony's game making machine is light-years ahead of Microsoft's.
Sony has way more Intellectual property and way more development studios and it has begun to show.
It's not just the games that are announced for this year that everyone is reacting to. It's that we are hearing lots of old name being mentioned as well. We're hearing names like Syphon Filter and Twisted Metal talking about new games. Microsoft doesn't have the intellectual assets to match Sony name for name.
Alan Wake & Mass Effect tied at 31% at the poll. Remedy must have "gag order" by the US Goverment. I have never seen such a project under that secretly. I cannot wait for A.Wake.
I'd be all for that. I'd want them to scrap the Unreal Engine though, and use their own or something.
Edit: oooooo, look. My disagree buddy showed up. Where are you little guy? Come on out, don't be shy!
who knows what mystwalker is up to. last i heard they canceled cry on, which from the concept art looked awesome. their website offers no answers and i would love any game from them.
is kind of meh....
I was really expecting Rare to come out with something after the kicking they got lately but til E3 we'll wait I Guess-while I also feel Sony will have more this year even with all that's announced.
It's funny how this has come "360" with 360 fanboys now saying "just wait" rather than PS3 fanboys.
March. June. September.
Doesn't matter.
When you don't have many first party studios, your game pool just isn't there like Sony.
Edit: I own a 360, by the way, I do want to see it get used, I'm not gloating like a rabid fanboy, I expect Microsoft to pull out the games, they're just not doing it. If Alan Wake isn't announced for this year, I won't be buying anything on 360. Which is a disgrace.
no probaly wont shut anyone up .got a feeling there not going announce alot games at e3. the focus will be on the community..via xbox live
Felt like 'peeping' to each other microsoft and sony....if one announce something then encounter with another announcement.
However, Sony has more thing in their sleeve, as we know.
Maybe MS is running out the 'budget' to get more DLC or new partner. They have alredy 'bought' pretty much most of the Playstation titles to fueled 360.
Not much left to copy and buy, I guess. Most left scaterred are first/2nd party of Sony exclusive titles.
Don't even get me started on the Modern Warfare teaser. Even I could make something better than that, just to tease the fanbase but not give away too much yet. I have no idea what they were trying to show us.
Nothing. . .nothing at all
I think microsoft knows they can't compete with sonys first party titles so their only hope is to blow their whole load at E3.
Sony E3 Conference will be
god of war 3
heavy rain
Mag
Twisted Metal
UNcharted 2
PSP2
Syphon FIlter
MGS5
Rachet and Clank
Gran Turismo
and possibly a teaser for the new evolution and wipeout teams game
Team Ico's 2 games
Microsoft E3 Conference
Alan Wake ( they have too show this)
killer Instinct 3
Halo ODST
Forza 3
That wiil remote thing MS made
Kodu
Maybe Perfect Dark 2 but I'm pretty sure Rare is just workin on KI3
Either Alan Wake is there big suprise or gears 3?
and the motion control is also coming out for the ps3 from the same company.
also punisher for the PSN might be a sleeper hit.
Sony's waiting for MS to show their hand this time around. I think its a great strategy considering that Sony has already hinted at 4 phyre engine titles, katamari title, fat princess, and a new Ratchet & clank. Leaving the big guns to crush the competition and keep the information fresh.
Personally, though i think MS's lineup might be weaker this year. MS is trying to buy time to bring more substantial stuff to the table. There could have been plenty of "teaser" trailers like COD:MW2s to get ppl speculating without having to show game footage, but there wasn't even that.
One card I know Sony will probably throw to kill MS's buzz this year will be that upcoming Team ICO game. i know a HUGE amount of ppl both in the industry and out are looking to see what they've cooked up next.
I don't think MS is capitulating their whole line up just because of Sony, but I still believe it will be a weaker showing this year for the Windows maker.
You truly are living in the clouds.
You said:
" I'd rather have Microsoft announce a game in June for November, then Sony announcing a game in 2008 that will come out in 2010"
When has Microsoft ever announced a (quality AAA)exclusive game in June for the same year? Not one time has this ever happened.
You said:
"You sound hilarious when you count Microsoft out, when it's ONLY MARCH. Tell me 1 year where Microsoft hasn't announced Triple A games to be released the same year?"
The question I want to ask you is:
How many AAA exclusives have been announced from Microsoft after March that have also come out in the same year?
The answer is: ZERO
You said:
"EVERYONE knows, even PS3 fanboys, that E3 is Microsofts event."
I really want to know what makes E3, Microsoft's event?
Was it the Lips announcment? (cough Singstar ripoff cough)
Was it the Your in the Movies announcement? (cough Eye Toy ripoff cough)
Was it the Avatars announcement? (cough Nintendo/Sony ripoff cough)
Was it the handful of Multiplatform games that Microsoft tries to trick people into believing is just exclusive to their console, when it is accually on the PS3 or PC as well?
You said:
"I guess you must only have 60 dollars for killzone 2, because the ps3 has nothing else right now."
How about: Killzone 2/MLB09:The Show/Flower/Burn Zombie Burn/Noby Noby Boy just to name a few. What do all of these games have in common? They are all exclusive, they all are rated highly, and they have all been released in 2009. how many quality 360 exclusives can you name from 2009?
How many AAA games has the 360 released this year?
The answer is: ZERO
How many has the PS3 released this year
The answer is: TWO
Halo Wars cant even beat Flowers score, much less Killzone 2 or MLB 09: The Show, so why would you even try to downplay the PS3s lineup when compared to the mediocre lineup that the 360 has produced so far this year.
You said:
"It's funny how people count 2009 over when it's only march."
Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo/PC has never announced a AAA QUALITY title at E3, that has also made it to store shelves in the same year.
Why all of the sudden have you guys started to believe that Microsoft is for some reason going to pull off some miracle this E3 and announce an abundance of AAA QUALITY games for 2009?
GDC is the last stop for AAA QUALITY game annoucments for 2009. GET OVER IT ALREADY.
Thats because if you cant announce it in the Q1, its becomes impossible to release the games in the last quarter of the year due to logistics and publicity reasons.
Thats why Gears 2 was announced last year at GDC and thats why Modern warfare is announced this year.
GDC is also teh hotspot to be. Where else will you show off your games and get some media attention and your hour of fame if you are a publisher if not at GDC?
"but, but, but wait till E3"?
Developers dont think like that, xbots. Thats because in the real world, money is involved and developers have to take every opportunity they can get to announce their projects that should be almost finished cept polish and bugs.
Thats why if they dont announce, there is nothing. If they announce, its there. Thats the main motherload rule. Noone is working on projects unless proven otherwise.
xbiatches are fking desperate right now. I cant say Im surprised.
MS is dropping out the console business. All the signs are here. They just havent announced it. And they probably wont announce it for years to come.
There presence is somehow taken for granted by these losers when its far from it.
MSs main core business is not videogames. Videogames is merely a side adventure for MS. An investment if you will. And a failed investment it is. With 9 billion in red and no profit in sight for years to come, its logical that they will withdraw from this bottomless pit.
And a bottomless pit it is. No sane investor would continue pouring money into a blackhole.
Thats like mopping the floor with the water running from the crane.
xbiatches living in denial because:
1) they are stupid
2) ignoring the truth is convenient
3) they are stupid
No amount of spinning can change the fact that Bungie split of, that Ensembles is closed, that PGR contract is terminated, that RARE is restructuring.
A healthy business EXPANDS. Whats happening here, is called DECLINE.
No matter how much spinning they do to the numbers, it does not match up to reality. In reality they closed down Ensembles and are firing XBOX division workers. They arent EXPANDING. They are DECLINING.
So when they say how much they sold, when they brag about their sales again, and when they talk shiat about Sony again, all you need to do is write down their BS and try to add it up. If it doesnt add up to reality, its FAKE. And for real, they BS doesnt add up to reality. And it doesnt make any sense to begin with.
Who the hell brags about sales when they havent made a penny for the 8 years they have been in the industry. This industry grew with 20% per year in the last 8 years. And MS still managed to have a 9 billion red hole? WHo the hell brags about sales when Wii outsold it in less than a year. Convenient truth to ignore. Brag about sales and talk shiat about Sony. But the reality is that there is another competitor as real as Sony, and its beating the shiat out of MS. Where's the tough talk there? Hahaha stupid xbots.
It doesnt make any sense, because they are lying. In a fact, they lie to your face. But its not their fault actually, its just PR talk. What are they supposed to do? Confess to the world that they are dying? xbots you are idiots. Its not MSs fault. Its your fault for believing their stupidity. Just like how its your fault that you bought a worthless HD DVD player or keep buying a RRODing machine.
But go ahead, stupid bots. Disagree for all I care. Sooner or later, and by the looks of things, it seems like its becoming "sooner", youre going to feel fking stupid on a level like you have never felt before.
but he is right about nothing has ever been debuted at e3 and released the same year
sorry but he has a point
my guess is that alan wake is going to be released in competition to god of war 3 next march and splinter cell will be released this holiday with the announcement at e3
the 2 big 360 games relased after august are going to be splinter cell and forza 3
dont forget about the gta4 dlc which will be released around september probably
i guarentee those will be the games at e3 from microsoft that will be released this year
EDIT: forgot about halo
so there will be 2 for the holiday and 2 dlc for late summer which isnt bad but ps3 has some amazing games lined up this year too
"Lou-Cipher you're a true PS3 fanboy along with the others"
There is a difference between a person who has a preference to a particular console, and a person who is just bitter that the other team is winning the quality war. (what category do you fit under?)
I do like the PS3 alot more than the 360, but I was not bitter in 2006 and 2007 when the 360 was producing better games than the PS3. I was just playing the 360 more.
Now that the PS3 is clearly kicking the $hit out of the 360 (talking about game quality) you cant seem to control your own anger. so considering that I do own a 360 and a PS3 (PSN: Lou-Cipher/Live: SuperiorMindset)I don't come off looking like an irate fanboy, but instead you look like the true irate fanboy.
I'm just as mad as you are at Microsoft for not having a better lineup in 2009, but to think that there is enough time at E3 to announce and release several AAA quality titles in 2009 is just plain wishful thinking.
Be upset with Microsoft not PS3 fans, its not our fault Microsoft is not producing very many exclusives this year.
very well put. bubbles
Is what I was hoping to hear more about, I mean an MMOFPS title with up to 2 sides competing with 150 players on each side (300 total, take that MAG players) AND cross platform with the PC......that showing alone would have been great but, still more waiting.
calm down much? lol but forreal "take it easy man"
Why do people act like the only games 360 users can play are exclusives? Why should 360 owners be worried? It's not like games won't be coming to the system. Many of my last purchases have been multi-plat (SF4 & RE5) And I've been in absolute love with them.
Yes I appreciate exclusives as much as the next gamer but are they a main necessity for me to enjoy my console? Hell no. There are SO many other games from SO many other developers to keep me and many others happy (Not including fanboys because they obviously need crazy exclusives behind them to bash other systems).
The whole "360 owners should be worried" is unbelievably ridiculous...
360 fanboys screamed "PS3 has no games" all year in 2007, even though there were great multiplat titles released (enough to get the PS3 through the year anyways). Now 360 fans have "no games" being released this year but they're saying "ah it's cool, we got multiplat games anyway". See the irony?
PS3 fanboys are just saying all of this to piss 360 users off for all the flack they received from them for the past while? Who's worse than who at that point? No one, really.
(No offense at all to you btw because I'm not sure what consoles you own/support. I'm not trying to take jabs or anything).
Time To Hang Up Its Gloves
Halo - Expansion Out This Year
Project Gotham - Probably Out This Year
Cant Think Of Any Other Decent Games Coming Out This Year
Only Decent Thing They Can Announce Is A New Console
And, the other would Halo:Chronicles.
Also, somewhat of what Rare has up they sleeves.