PlayStation LifeStyle writes: "Cheating, lag switches and "glitching" have become commonplace in online gaming. A good developer who supports their games online community, will do their best to prevent these forms of cheating."
how do you test for a lag switch/peddle, how do you know its not someone with a sh!t internet
we'll just have to wait and see. If it is some1's internet, im sure they can appeal. But i believe the person will get a warning first, then bann from game, then bann PSN ID? Otherwise, it would be quite strict, and quite frankly it would suck for people with crappy internet (which is also me sometimes when im downloading and playing ps3) lol from now on imma never d/l anythign wen i play k2.. somethings aint just worth it xD
you can pretty easily see a lag switch if someone has a lag in his connection and suddenly makes unnatural high amounts of points and or kills while hes lagging. @skv you cant background download on games with online connection
I didn't think you can background download while playing PS3 format games... only while browsing the internet, PS store, [email protected], etc.
I think you can background download while playing certain PS3 games, but not while playing that game online.
interesting. i'm sure the info is out there, i just didn't know what all you can/can't do. like, can you play a blu-ray movie and download in the background? I don't think so since it's not hiding your online status, it's actually signing you off the PS network while you watch it.
He never said anything about using his PS3 to download whilst playing. Most likely means he's downloading stuff on a PC, Laptop etc. when he's playing online with the PS3.
i think he means downloading things on his computer, like in utorrent, at the same time he's playing KZ. Any type of download running off your internet connection is going to take up precious online gaming bandwidth. When I play at my friends house and theres two ps3's running off his internet he usually turns off his computer completely so theres no downloads going on in the background or anything.
But but the PSN doesn't have lag it runs on dedicated servers....only xbox live does.
I like how you can take something that has nothing at all to do with the 360 and twist if to fit the pretend war you and others are having. When you grow up those little jabs will be less entertaining and more annoying. Oh and BTW a lagswitch is an intentional lag tool built by the cheater.
why does it matter if you are downloading in the background while playing a game? im pretty sure it stops downloading when you play online
type in "netstat" when running it. Tons of connections.
I agree when I was playing R2 I was getting a whole $hitload of messages telling me that I'm cheating and using a lag switch and I was like No!!! wtf !!! just turned out I had a $hitty connection and didn't realize it. Also the thing in R2 you can't really tell from ur perspective if lagging and I think it was happening in KZ2 from me b4 I switched to a wired connection
Yeah you can background download while playing a game, it just downloads slower than if you weren't playing
From what I have noticed, a background download will only occur during a game not connected to the PSN. For example, when I am playing Fallout 3, a background download will occur. When I connect to Resistance 2 or Burnout Paradise, the download will then enter 'pending' status.
You can lag like crazy if you're uploading something... it drains all your internet connection. It takes forever to upload vids on Facebook.
yeah, i meant utorrent.. not b/g downloading. It bcoms a pain.
a person who cheats on one game is likely to cheat on all games! i do not know how they can tell who cheating but good luck to them! go gg!!
true. Thats why i believe they'll bann the PSN id, so he/she cannot game on that ID ever again (or atleast till the bann expires) It sounds interesting, i'd love more detail. This is one of the reasons why i quit r2 and COD4.. K2 has an amazing kick function which I am not afraid to use on lame ass cheaters
bye bye trophies. honestly, this seems a bit harsh. i'm sure they do their research though. the key info from the tweet was that they have been lenient, and they are going to start cracking down.
I don't think it is harsh at all. Its simple if someone does n0t want to be banned and lose their trophies then dont be a scum sucking, low life, punk *ss, cheater. I grief report all the lagswitchers I see in KZ.
lol this is good to know actually I have a few friends that would do this for good laughs. Wouldn't you know it, I'm actually heading over there this weekend. LoL I hope You don't run into us
Me and a buddy stat-padded once to get to General (I don't care, I admit it - I want to platinum this game lol), is that cheating? (ie, taking turns killing eachother for points).
^ very lame tactic General Rank wasn't even that hard to acquire
...general is easy to obtain. You just have to play the game.
well yes tahts some sort of glitching as well as the bot stats padding when the game went online. some of the higher rank players also betray the system, by buddy only matches kicking theyre stats into oblivion. sorry but you also glitched in some form....
but between juggling life (i.e job, school, girlfriend), simply havn't had the time to play it as much as I'd like. was trying to catch up lol
Well considering that there's a trophy for winning 50 online games, I got my general rank after that, as well as that valor citation whatchamacallit for top 7-10% of KZ2 players, just play online, otherwise skills will be lacking, but i think for certain badges/ribbons, you might need to gather around with friends, like the one where you need to have your tactical drone kill x amount of people in a game, I've never gotten it.
Well each to their own, but getting to General was pretty easy without having to 'stat pad', even for me (and like I keep saying, I tend to be rubbish online). But, even though it was easy, I still felt a sense of achievement when that points bar went through each successive rank and I unlocked the different classes. I did notice that when I bought the game and went online on the very first day, there were a LOT of people already at GENERAL. I know it came out early in some countries, but that seemed a tad suspect to me.
i agree with one on one matches to obtain SOME medals. that's it. you shouldn't need to do it just to rank up. that's how you become skilled at it. some of the medals are extremely tough to get. for instance, i have the aerial supportive, example soldier, and natural born killer medals and i've unlocked air support for tactician. the other night i finally got ONE revival specialist ribbon. it's really hard to unlock some of the stuff at times. it's because of all the chaos, which i actually like haha. i think GG should have double point weekends like IW did for CoD:MW.
well im only lacking some badges :) and didnt put THAT much time into it, stats padding isnt necessary http://www.killzone.com/kz/...
I have less of a problem with boosters in 2 person lobbies then I do with a lame lagswitcher disapearing every 7 sec only to reapear next to me with that noobish shotty.
Glitch killers are pigs, frankly. I saw one on the HELGHAN INDUSTRIES map yesterday (he was in a wall at the ISA base too, picking us off as we spawned!), and what's worse, they were boasting about it on their headset: I heard "See me in the wall" and "I can't die now". Lag switch? Don't even know what that is to be honest. I know I have a lot of cases were I can empty a magazine into someone (I see the blood splatter) but they won't die. Then, they'll swing around and drop me with two shots (not even 'head' shots either). I presume it's regular internet problems and no 'malice' is involved, but it's frustrating that it never seems to happen the other way round!!! Ban their ID's though? Seems a bit extreme to me, and they'd probably come straight back in with another one anyway.
is basically a switch you place on ur internet connection to cut the connection off for a bit then turn it back on right after you empty ur gunn out on some1. Basically, makes you invinsible for abit.. so if u shoot some and he kills you and he doesnt die or die after 4-6 secs after u die (and its ur kill) dat means lag switch, vote to kick that jerk
Ah, I get you now! I'm a bit out of touch being an old fogey!;) That has happened a few times like I said, with people just vanishing for two or three seconds, avoiding my fire and then popping back into the game to kill me (or someone on my team close by). Dirty buggers!!!
But most glitchers are probably trophy whores. The risk of losing trophies makes a single PSN ID more valuable in my opinion.
I was going to mention the fact that PSN IDs can be created simply enough. But yes the lose of your trophies would cause some people to care a bit more. But it will not stop those who are just griefers... they will just be on using a back up PSN ID to cause havock. And the title is a bit misleading... unless it is Sony doing the banning (which it might be?) then the ID looks like it will just be banned from KZ2? Wouldn't they still be able to play other games with that ID?
The glitchers in Blood Ghact are annoying =.=
Too bleedin' right! Soon after I'd bought the game I saw on of those gits on BLOOD GRACHT. Took me around five deaths to realise what the hell was going on. On that fifth death I just happened to fall in a way that showed a pistol poking through the wall. Grrrr... Why do they do it? It can't be 'fun', and they're not displaying any skill to impress people, so I just can't fathom what they think they're achieving. But I guess that's true of any cheater.
I love this game more than anyone but its way freakin over due for a patch. They brought this on themselves. PATCH THE FREAKIN GAME ITS BEEN LIKE 3 WEEKS SINCE THE LAST PATCH.
OMG 3 WEEKS!!! LAZY DEVS!!! Its coming, probably next week.
that detects cheating, and if someone gets caught cheating more than 3 times then he should get 1 month bann!!! if caught once then 1 week and if twice then 2 weeks!!! and if he gets caught 5 times then 1 year!!!
Ban all the cheaters. They dont deserve to play online if they are going to cheat.
I can't stand those stat padders.Here i am working hard daily to get my stats up And these idiots on my friend list are in a private match just running around playing search and retrieve all day. As if their afraid to get a death on their stats..
What the feck is the point of that?? Seems some people have forgotten that games are actually supposed to be 'fun'.
cuz its hard to make a new account on PSN... Cheaters suck tho... I dont understand cheating... you cheat to be first but in reality your last?? you cheat yourself...
No but to lose all the trophies they have is a bad thing.
You know penny I "lost" trophies and locked saves 3 times because I did not like the name of my ID lol. I really don't give a toss about trophies. I am also not liking Gun_Senshi. I wanted Gunslinger but It was taken grrrrr. I might change it,m even though yesterday I got level 6 in trophies, which i don't even play for trphies i find them useless and a gimick lol
and you loose your purchased items
yeah trophies dont really matter... it might have if they were implemented in the begining but they dont have the same feeling as gamerscore in xbox live... hell its a hassle to even see my crap... have to wait and sync trophies etc... f that who cares lol... And yeah I lost all my saves once... by accident got mad for like a minute and was over it lol
I do not have any purchased items because there is no PS Store where I live. At least Sony lets me play online. There is no XBL here so I cannot use X360 online.
Gun... what do you mean there is no XBL where you live but you can get on PSN??? Do you mean you are using dial up service? XBL is EVERYWHERE... that has High Speed Internet access, trust me I know. I travel the world hooking up my system every place I go. I have played in places such as the desert of Saudi Arabia, South Korea, Turkey, Japan, and am even playing now in the Philippines. I just hook up to High Speed internet and away I go. I even so much as hooked my XBox system up through my laptop and used a dial up patch to get onto live, it wasn't worth it though due to the lag but it was possibble for me to download items I needed at the time. I hope you aren't using dial up (is it even possible?) to play online. You are just causing grief for all the other players by slowing the game down. And I know I am an XBox poster but I am also an avid online player that is interested in what the community across the board deals with.
talk without knowing anything. My country is not even in the list of XBL when making account. for PSN my country is in the list, but when I open PS Store it tells me "This service is not aviable in current region". Same goes for PS HOME. At least my PSN ID let me get trophies and play online, even though when add ons of games like COD map pack comes out I cannot get it. Look even games that display the flag of your country, instead display the game logo for me. Japan, Turkey, Saudi Arabia etc are very big countries. My country is only 316 km2 and we have our own language.
Just make a PSN under a different country (eg US), and you can do all that store/home stuff :)
ya screw cheater
I say, if you cheat in MP games, your PSN ID/360 Gamertag should be banned and you get tried in court as a pedophile who beats animals and evades taxes ;)
Yeah but you lose your trophies, your ability to transfer downloaded games from PS3 to PSP and lose your online stats. I imagine it's frustrating.
Opps I guess were just as bad as gears...lol Ive only seen these glitches once though.
cheating in online games is like fighting on the internet..pure gutless and lifeless gamers
no fighting on the internet is like the special olympics, even if you win your still retard
lol, anyone who cheats at this game has no buisness playing it begin with. It won't make you better to acquire badges and abilities while cheating. I'd still own you after the fact. regardless.
lag glitch as in for example.. counter strike: map de_dust turn off modem while inside the tunnel run to enemy's terrorist's base turn on the modem kills everyone from behind. depending on your modem and isp, you have a 5~7 seconds window before it totally disconnects you from the game.
AWESOME!! Finally the c*ck suckers of the gaming world will get what's coming to them. Now all we need are the rest of the developers to implement the same tactics towards thier future games. With regards to stat padders, i don't see it as cheating because another gamer is not losing out ( unless you are spawn counting ), however it does make you a total p*ssy because your inadvertently saying that you have no chance against a real opponent ( but lets face it, your not going to tell your mates that when they see your stats and trophy's, are you? ). Hopefully all cheats and glitchers will be banned from ever playing online again and possibly hit by a bus.
What's the point on cheating when your playing online because u want to see if your the best out off the rest not the best out of the cheater's lol @Gun_Senshi same hear i changed my id so many time's i think i had gunsliger as one but can't remember the password or the email lol anyone no any good online id name's i think i need to make a new one lol
yeah, i can understand that they will ban people that are cheating online, i just have a question: can you also get banned for doing glitches/cheating offline?
lol let them make their own game "cheaters only" anyway this happens to me alot on R2 i though it was just the speed boost from the berserk lol and when the game ends the cheater or not will have 50+ kills >.>
now let all games go under this microscope of ban
How do you lag switch on dedicated servers?