Seems as though 7.1 surround is coming to Wii. DTS at the GDC has confirmed the tech to do so.
Why have epic sound when theres no epic games?
why would we need 7!.1 surround sound when the wii doesn't even support HD Graphics, it makes no sense. I highly doubt any game would really be able to truly support this because wii's disk space i believe is smaller than 360
yung, Actually sound gives people more emotion than image. Also Wii uses DVD9, doesn't 360 use that too? Edit: Doing some research, they both use the same amount of gigs for discs. And considering wii has graphical content for 480P, there is enough room.
"Why have epic sound when theres no epic games?" Why not? If the little guy want to scream loud like the others let him scream.
I wouldn't say the Wii has no great games, obviously it does. But with no digital audio output, I don't see how it's going to have true surround sound. It will most likely be simulated surround sound like Dolby Pro-Logic II.
wow! even the 360 can't do 7.1. The new dts neural just "upscales" 5.1 to 7.1
At least the 360 can do 5.1, which is still awesome. The Wii, lacking digital output maxes out at matrixed 2 channel sound.
Just wondering but isn't uncompressed 7.1 surround sound supposed to take up a lot of disc space? What use is a feature that few of the best titles will even be able to utilise?
LIKE DVD PLAYBACK >=[!!! AGGGHHH.
forgot to reply to your question, yes it takes up lots of space, but it is apparent that they have the space to do it (honestly, not many games would take up that much space on there in the first place). Anyway, DTS is a lot more compressed that Dolby Digital, and so far, tends to yield better sound quality over DD.
wow! not bad the question remains how many devs will include this into their games? i would have loved Metroid P3 with 7.1 surround.
This is the same thing that Prototype is using, it takes a 5.1 DTS signal and convert it to 7.1 DTS signal. But the PS3 and Blu Ray players does REAL 7.1 uncompressed PCM,DTS HD and DDTrue HD. This is the real evolution of high quality sound. Not cheap old DVD 5.1 audio lol. But without Blu Ray for size and REAL HDMI 1.3 they all just fake sound. Heveanly Sword used 7.1 PCM uncompressed and the audio alone for that game was 10GB, not to mention that about 90% of PS3 games use these audio formats, so yeah who in their right mind thinks that Wii and 360 can do this lol on dvds without Blu ray.... so sad
" uncompressed PCM" In all honesty, how big is the difference between uncompressed and compressed sound? Can you tell us?...really? @nec below, Yeah loading huge files isn't efficient to begin with.
you seem to know ps3 power more than sony. and i bet you dont know sh!t what ur talking. i bet you only say this because someone say it. monkey heard, monkey tell?
As I do.. hahahahahah! BTW not many games on the Ps3 support 7.1 uncompressed, even on the ps3.
@Sidar The difference between compressed and uncompressed isn't generally recognizable through a normal setup like listening to audio through TV speakers. For those of us with home theatres, the difference is like night and day. An example of compressed audio would be Dolby Digital. Now compare that to an uncompressed, lossless signal through a proper A/V Receiver and you WILL hear the difference. The standard bitrate for Dolby Digital is 640kbps. The average bitrate for a lossless, uncompressed signal is generally about 4-5mbps, thus delivering a far superior sound quality.
The thing is most people don't really hear the difference, due their setup. Having huge files is not efficient, and like nyc said, Lots of games don't use it anyway...yet people seem to enjoy it? So honestly i dont see why wii can't benefit from it. wether it being true 7.1 or not.
Lots of people don't have a setup to hear the difference? Why buy a new HDTV for the picture but have last gen Dolby digital surround sound, or none at all? If you have a receiver with hdmi input, chances are you can input PCM uncompressed sound. The PS3 can even decode blurays if your receiver cannot accept Dolby HD (decodes it to pass uncompressed PCM audio to your receiver). Also, most games don't have an uncompressed audio file? Wrong. The games that only have a dolby digital sound file are multiplat games, because it is the highest level audio file that the 360 can accept. Most PS3 exclusives games do have uncompressed audio. Resistance 1 & 2, Ratchet & Clank, Heavenly Sword, Killzone2, Motorstorm 1 & 2, MGS4, Warhawk, Wipeout HD & Uncharted are the ones I own that have uncompressed audio. I know there's more...
You can have a HD tv, but that doesnt mean all consumers have a HD-sound system? There is a huge difference. Not eveyone knows about it, the thing is lots of gamers don't even have this 7.1 system installed in one of their rooms. " Why buy a new HDTV for the picture but have last gen Dolby digital surround sound, or none at all? " Just to add, Well why do you think? Because its becomming the standard, but that doesnt mean they all have a 7.1 system installed. I bet lots of people don't even know how to hooko up a 7.1 system( while its freaking easy) " Also, most games don't have an uncompressed audio file? Wrong" Hold it where did i say this? I said lots, there is a difference.
"In all honesty, how big is the difference between uncompressed and compressed sound? " @Sidar The difference is huge. I suggest upgrading your audio setup if you can't hear the difference. Like you said earlier: "sound gives people more emotion than image." Now just imagine audio in lossless uncompressed audio. In other words HD sound. Its absolutely stunning.
Hopefully the next round of Inhouse Nintendo games use this. Zelda with DTS True 7. would sound so beautiful.
Wow, Nintendo looks as if they are caring about the hardcore Wii fans out there. Good job!
7.1 sound but with 480p.......LMAO
How do you get 5.1 or 7.1 channels from a Wii? It doesn't have digital output, does it?
Exactly what I was thinking
Nope, no HDMI or digital optical out. It'll most likely be simulated like Dolby Pro-Logic II simulates surround sound.
Couldnt you just connect an rca adapter that would then connect to your reciever, saying your reciever has the upconversion to do this which expensive ones do,which would then be seperated inside the receiver then shot to the correct speakers for a 5.1 or 7.1?
@Product Nope. An analog signal is an analog signal. Unless a device has a digital output jack, it's not a true digital signal.
Uh oh..another Wii Add-on? Honestly though, wtf is up with nintendo? ADD F*CKING DVD PLAYBACK FIRST! FOR F*CKS SAKE. And to reinforce other comments, it can't do real 7.1, or 5.1 for that matter. It has stereo jacks. DTS doesn't mean surround sound, its just the technique they are using for this 7.1 DTS is just simulated through 3 channel 2.1...idk how though.
at least its available.
Great sound to match some great visuals...... oh wait maybe not
This is all a lie just to make the system seem better. PS3 is the only console that can really use 7.1 surround sound because it has HDMI 1.3 not even XBOX 360 can put out true 7.1 Surround Sound just look up the facts.
There is a hugh difference like the guy said IF you have a receiver that can handle these new formats. And for the record yes over 90% of PS3 games are in PCM uncompressed i didn't say they were in 7.1 there are also 5.1 pcm uncompressed and the difference is like stereo to surround that's how high of quality 5.1/7.1 PCM uncompressed audio is.
http://www.dts.com/Technolo... http://www.dolby.com/consum... What the Wii and 360 is using is also known as Dolby Pro Logic IIx, which is available on over 70% of AV receivers today. So if you were to have one of many receivers you can have this now on all your games even tho it's not true 7.1 or uncompressed it's still better than 5.1. And you can get a receiver for under $300 with this feature. Here this is a small list of games using 7.1 for PS3. http://boardsus.playstation...
Wii music is going to sound like never before! This will give people new meaning when they say "I'm gonna go listen to Wii Music."
nothing like listening to midi samples 7.1 surround.
Yet another matrix encode. What's the difference between this one and Dolby Pro Logic IIx.
This is all BS. Its just going to be simulated 7.1 Kind of like 1080p upconverted games. Its just lame
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