Shane Kim on Halo in September and buying BioWare. Is BioWare working on a PS3 title? Did MS passing on Heavenly Sword? Ya gotta read on to find out.
Their previous title, Kung Fu Chaos, didn't sell very many copies. You can thank the death of Crimson Skies and MechAssault for this very reason as well. According to Peter Moore, Microsoft only feels comfortable supporting companies if they meet financial expectations; quality of the titles didn't seem to be important. Good thing Sony counterbalances that to a certain extent (Shadow of the Collosus for example).
The big difference is that both Crimson Skies and MechAssault were great games. Kung Fu Chaos was crap. Heavenly Sword looks great, but who knows if it will have playability to match its looks? Would still love to see a follow up to Crimson Skies.
Kung Fu Chaos was quite critically acclaimed actually.
Gameplay for heavenly Sword? I'd think they'd have got it there after 4 years in development.
I'm glad it is staying a ps3 exclusive.
Take it easy, okay. Just take it easy...
heavenly sword is the one ps3 game i would have liked on 360! oh well hurry up with masseffect that will keep me happy
with games like too human and ninja gaiden 2 and kingdom underfire circle of doom ???
how many 3rd person action games do ms need ???
I would take Ninja Gaiden 2 over Heavenly Sword any day of the week!
They need as many as they can get. Anyway it's about getting the best games. I suppose they couldn't really tell it was going to be good. Though the concept trailer was pretty impressive. Anyway Ninja Gaiden 2 will be coming to the ps3 (why would they bring sigma to ps3 and make all tha teffort to create a fanbase and then not release the sequel...that would be idiotic)
I wouldn't be suprised if Ninja Gaiden 2 Stayed 360 exclusive.
Your logic is flawed. If its so idiotic than it was idiotic for MGS to only have one game or the Xbox-xbox 360 fanbase.
Team ninja is dedicated to the 360, and they'll be developing the next ninja gaiden. It'll get a release on the ps4, as ninja gaiden 2 sigma or something.
Lol. In interviews they said they were trying to open up their demographic of console gamers with Ninja Gaiden Sigma...it's really the first time it's going to be seen in Japan...so you'd think that they'd want to follow that up with Ninja 2. Who said MGS was going to stay exclusive?
Like Xi said... They will probably release A sigma 2 a few years later.
Im pretty sure that Kojima said that MGS4 is PS3 exclusive eventhough I very well think that it could go to 360.
And do you think that they wont develop the next one for the Ps3 as well?
Cant wait it comes out in June with all new textures, redesigned characters, and 3 extra maps!
Guys, settle down. It's probably a pretty simple thing. Ninja Gaiden 2 is only in the works for the 360 right now. If Sigma sells very well however, they will probably release it on ps3 sometime after the 360 release. I'm not saying this with any certainty, just saying what makes sense to me.
MS looked at heavenly sword and said firmly "We'll Pass"...
Kung Fu Chaos was not very impressive at all...not to say Heavonly sword won't be....but MS most likely knows more about heavenly sword than "we" do...and they said...."thanks but no thanks"...
Every game previewed for the ps3 thusfar is super hyped up prior to release. Prior to anyone playing it...then when it gets released.....Major let downs. How many Sony exclusives have been rated below 70%? Then the super duper hyped up games like Resistence and Motorstorm get in the 8's...which is good by all means...but not the AAA title they crowned them prior to release. So, while yes I'm going to pick up heavenly sword....I'm not falling for the super huype....If its Great...I will be very happy in finally getting an AAA title for the ps3. But if its not....I won't be surprised....But fanboy take note.....MS passed on it....they saw what they presented to MS and it didn't meet MS's standards.....live with it....Lets just all cross our fingers that MS was off on this one....Because us ps3 owners desperately need that "ONE" big title... But regardless....Heavenly sword doesn't match up to Bio SHock, Mass Effect, SHadow run, Fable 2, ect.....But maybe with them being turned away by ms they will put more effort and determination to make it a winner on the ps3. Michael Jordan was cut from his high school team and came back a better player due to it. We'll soon see.....But don't hold your breath if the ps3's history thus far is any indication in exclusive quality titles...hmmmmmm
Deepbrown....were you joking when you said Kung fu chaos was critially aclaimed? Electronic Gaming Monthly rated it 5 out of 10 buddy. And on average It scored in the 7's. Since when is an average to low game...critically aclaimed? ha ha ha ha ha...Please Oh please say you were joking...Lets hope Heavenly sword isn't "as critically aclaimed" as Kung Fu Chaos was...
And Deepbrown.....I would never resort to calling you names, like you just did me, though I thoroughly disagree with you on many topics. And You don't know what was shown to MS about Heavenly sword. But the fact remains...They wanted to develope for the 360...they showed MS what they had and MS said "thanks but No thanks"...so then they went to the ps3 as a secondary option....Sony....being desperate this time around....gladly accepted. Its not that complicated. And the truth can be harsh....but its still "the truth". Get over it Deepbrown.
Personal attacks on this site are not cool buddy. I see you edited your post but still haven't apologized. Be a man of your word or admit to you faults...worried about loosing bubbles? You should. Your true colors have been showing more and more week by week. Why would you get so upset over my opinion to resort to calling me names? Edited or not. You did. And even if you don't apologize...I forgive you like I have done countless others who resort to that when they can't agree to disagree.
what makes you think HS won't match those other games. if what you say goes for everything, all those titles you mentioned for 360 aren't proven either. it kills me when people want to make it seem like 360 has had nothing but classics since it came out, bs. my 360 was collecting so much dust before Gears i really felt like it wasn't worth it. with two broken systems and a handfull of quality games, my 360 has got about as much playing time as my ps3, now thats a fact. there's no way you can say the 360 is a better console even at this point. almost no games have come out for the ps3 and the ones that came out when the 360 launched were straight sh!t. believe me, three of my buddies said forget it after their systems broke and when it did work the games were at the time crap (pre-gears). you say you prefer 360 and thats cool, but to say its clearly the better console is just foolish. i wouldn't go as far to say ps3 is better, but it sure has a better looking future. the only games i've enjoyed on 360 are Gears and Deadrising, the rest.............don't even get me started.
ps....Motorstorm isn't the hardest game but there's no way anyone beat it in eight hours, and if they did they must have really enjoyed it it to sit and play it for so long.
because they didn't want to taint their image...but we all know where that went. Topgamer spends entire posts ranting about how the PS3 sucks, and then tries to wrap it up with "..But I Love All games!" I agree with Scottie. He's comparing an unreleased PS3 title with unreleased 360 titles, and somehow making final judgments based on platform alone. For all his words of being a 'true gamer' he doesn't really live up to them...
"If we were discussing God of War 2 prior to its release....I would be saying..."man this game is going to be Great"....I would say that based on my playing the first one and reading all that they did to improve on the second one. Can't say the same for "ANY" of the ps3 exclusives released yet."
Ok, but somehow Mass Effect (new IP) has won you over despite not being a sequel to a proven title?
"And You don't know what was shown to MS about Heavenly sword."
-Actually, we do. Go here: http://xboxmovies.teamxbox....
Saying that you beat Motorstorm in a matter of hours though proves that obviously don't even own the system. Reviewers complained about repitition due to the long length of the game; lots of gameplay, low selection of tracks. You've been caught doing this before. I wonder if your friend even realizes that you posted pictures of you with their PS3. =P
would be nice if the link worked...
Well KFC: "A game hasn’t managed to burgle popular culture as wittily and effectively as this since Vice City “ – Edge Magazine
"This WILL BE/IS Microsoft’s butt-kickin’ sleeper-hit for 2003! Microsoft and Just Add Monsters have truly outdone themselves!" - Xbox Addict, 5/5
"Kung Fu Chaos has all of the elements of a sleeper hit going for it. There’s only one problem: there’s no way in hell this should be a ‘sleeper’ because everyone should know about this game." - Gaming Nexus 9.2
"Diversity of levels, solid, engaging gameplay, and humorous touches on every level all make this a great game for most ages." - Extended Play, ****
"When Kung Fu Chaos was ripped from my hands, the void left behind was worse than death!" - XGamer
"...one of the best game I have ever played" - Penny Arcade
...All Microsoft saw of Heavenly Sword was a 3minute concept trailer and a description. The trailer is nothing like it is now at all - it was more like a japanese style sword play game.
And jeez top gamer you can be cynical. Microsoft passed on a concept 4 years ago - oh yeah so it's not as good as anything else. Damn. Talk about being blinded by a company - I thought it was meant to be about the games and not what company chose them. It's quite depressing that anyone could actually have such opinions.
I'm psyched about Bioshock, Too Human, Heavenly Sword and Lair.
edit: And it continues...They went to Microsoft first and so Sony just got sloppy seconds. Grow up. We all know that a japanese style fighting game isn't Microsoft's ball...and that's how it was presented as seen in the xbox concept demo. They just don't swing with the American consumer. But Heavenly Sword has changed its focus now and is going to be an amazing game - with incredible animation and visuals.
I'm sorry Topgamer but I just find it incredibly depressing that you would project such a promising game that won nearly every award you can get at E3, to a console war. And in fact this time not even a console war. A company war of Microsoft versus Sony...I really think that is very poor to punish these developers just because they are working on a system you don't prefer. Once again i find it very depressing...and really paints you into a corner just because you are unimpressed with the company Sony.
I hope you can see how frustrating and demoralising that is TG...for a game that I and many others, including nearly every previewer, is excited about and it's brought down to this. The devs have already said that they'd hate to be a part of the console war - and I'm sorry but it really does make me angry when that is done. Critique the company and its decisions, compare the graphics, but please let the games breathe. Are you a topgamer or what? Hope that doesn't move me from deepbrown and into deepshit.
Aren't all previews positive. I dont even look at Previews anymore.
I go by two reviews Game Informer and Gamespot. IGN always overates games.
Apparently that vid and that descrition must of turned them off somewhere.
MS is pretty good when knowing who to buy. Take for example, Bungie, they saw things in them when no one did.
No, what depresses you is that i'm honest and my honesty goes against what you want to believe. I'm not a fanboy...I could care less who wins the console war. I just want "Games". And I speak honestly and fankly about what I have played and experienced. Sony indeed has let me down on many fronts. And I refuse to fron and pretend like they didn't. My opinion and views are just as important and should be respected just like anyone elses. We don't have to all agree...And I'm far from a follower. I blaze my on trail and have my own thoughts on the consoles. But all of my thoughts are based off of my own personal experience. I am very passionate about games. Call me a nerd...call me a geek...call me what ever you choose. But I love video games. I don't love MS, NIntendo, or Sony....I love Games. I love to play games, beat games, compete online with friends and strangers....Its my hobby and my passion. And I won't lie about my experience or my opinion to sound fair. If and when Sony starts releasing AAA games...I will be the first to talk about it. Not because others say so...but because I have played it and enjoyed it....
What bothers you and some other is....I'm very happy with my purchases of the MS brand next gen console. I'm not going to hide my enthusiasm because sony lovers will call me a xbox fanboy....I could care less. Anyone who knows me knows I'm all about the games. It just so happens MS has the games at this point. I compare games not to come on this site to brag about this and that. I compare games because I love games and I want to know....And I have no stake in who wins in the end....because I honstly believe...."I WIN". I am living life...having fun with the bobby I love. Video games. So love me or hate me on this site....I will always be honest and I will always keep it real. Even if the truth bothers certain fanboys. I'm not trying to be a diplomat....I'm a gamer. Right now I clearly favor the 360....but I'm not against Sony or the ps3...I absolutely hope great conten comes along for me to play...And I'm pretty sure there will be at some point. I had the ps2 and it took many years to get God of War...but it came and I'm glad I got a ps2 because of that one game. I'm sure at some point...I will be happy with my ps3 purchase...But I would feel wrong if a gamer asked...."which console is better for my money"...and I didn't tell the truth from my experience with online from both, games from both, media center on the 360, ect....The 360 is at this point...clearly the better next gen console......price/games....
And Deepbrown.....I never said that the game wouldn't be good. I just said I have learned not to get excited from previews...I have been let down one too many times...especially in regards to ps3 previews....I also said that I am holding judgement on it...And I am going to purchase the game. I have hope its the first AAA title coming...How can you get depressed from that. I'm being honest. It may be the next best thing...but I'm not going to say that based on previews...once I get my hands on it...I will know. And I'm rooting for it buddy. You got me twisted. The reason I don't need to play Fable 2, Forza 2, Mass Effect, ect....and still feel that the odds of them being AAA games is high....its due to the previous games from the companies....If we were discussing God of War 2 prior to its release....I would be saying..."man this game is going to be Great"....I would say that based on my playing the first one and reading all that they did to improve on the second one. Can't say the same for "ANY" of the ps3 exclusives released yet. Sure we can say without a doubt that the Final Fantasy Next gen ps3 games will be AAA titles....thats a no brainer....But to say the game that MS turned away will be an AAA title is way way way too premature buddy. Let the game come out and speak for itself. With that said....I hope its Great. I'm just not holding my breath due to "kung fu chaos" and MS turning it down. But just like when I used the Michael Jordan comparisson....It could be a surprise hit. And as a ps3 owner....I need one...all I do is watch blu ray movies on my ps3. I beat motorstorm in a matter of a few hours. 8 tracks....Rental at best in my opinion.
There were many class act games before God of War sir. But anyway you say you would have to answer "which console is better" if someone asked you and then say "The 360 is at this point...clearly the better next gen console......price/games....&q uot;; ...but the fact is noone asked you tg.
What I found depressing your posts were saying 1. Microsoft didn't feel the concept of HS suited their console, or didn't see promise in it; therefore HS will not be very good and 2. That the ninja devs went to Microsoft 4 years ago so their preffered system was the 360.
If that isn't subjecting an independent game to a console/company war I don't know what is. Compare the games eg. I think Too Human will be better than HS...but please the above is so poor for those devs that have worked so hard on creating an amazing game.
Once again I hear you on your new points. But you can clearly see that what I was tackling was this: "But anyway you say you would have to answer "which console is better" if someone asked you and then say "The 360 is at this point...clearly the better next gen console......price/games....; ...but the fact is noone asked you tg.
1. Microsoft didn't feel the concept of HS suited their console, or didn't see promise in it; therefore HS will not be very good and 2. That the ninja devs went to Microsoft 4 years ago so their preffered system was the 360."
I can relate to your revised and honest reasoning but you must be able to see that what was said there was worrying and frustrating.
Beat Motorstorm in 8hours? Now you being serious? I have heard every reviewer saying "This game is tooo long" Many say they'd prefer 3 tickets and not 4 tickets, where more modes would be prefferable. ALso you must be a very good driver as I hear the 3rd and 4th levels are very tricky. I have to say I am waiting for more news on DC and how much they will be if anything at all.
I'd love Heavenly Sword to be a sleeper hit and not get too much hype because it'll seem all the better. It would be great on whatever platform and I think 360 fans would see it as a sorely missed gaming opportunity. Of course ps3 owners have the same for 360 franchises.
Although I may be talking out of my ass since I haven't done it yet, however I have played for about 5 hours and took first in some level 3 races.
From what I have seen so far MS prolly made a mistake passing on Heavenly Sword. Not a huge mistake since their game lineup is looking really good for the rest of the year but it would have been a nice feather in their cap.
So much stress being a gamer these days ^^
For what it's worth, I think MS will be kicking themselves in the teeth when they realise what they passed up when Heavenly Sword is released. As far as I'm concerned, the 360 could use titles like this.
MS released a new console going up against Sony's PS; GTA would have hurt them in the minds at the time.
Whenever I see comments as long as those from Topgamer and Deepbrown I know something's gone amiss and we seem to have left the rational world of debate behind.
If you were in the army or school I'd chain you both together for the whole day until you made up! But in the absence of that I'll state what I believe to be one negative and one positive thing that you both said. Therefore (hopefully) putting the forces of gaming debate back into a zen like balance:
POSITIVE: Despite everything that's been said he's gonna be buying the game and hopes that it will do well. He's pro this game!
NEGATIVE: Microsoft passed on the game because it "didn't meet MS's standards". That's only an assumption. Shane Kim said that it's hard to make decisions on which games to accept. And that "we felt we prioritized the right things." The game doesn't naturally fit with the typical Xbox owner's taste in games. It may just not have "fit" with the Xbox audience rather than a be a low quality game.
POSITIVE: The game was shown to Microsoft 4 years ago, that's a long time in the gaming world. It could have been a completely different game or of a different quality at the start. It's how it is NOW that matters.
NEGATIVE: Called Topgamer biased towards Microsoft when he clearly states that he has not bias to any companies, just the games, like it should be.
Anyway, that's my two cents and hopefully will show that they both had valid (and invalid) points!
POSITIVE: The game was shown to Microsoft 4 years ago, that's a long time in the gaming world. It could have been a completely different game or of a different quality at the start. It's how it is NOW that matters.
^^^ never the less HS didn't pass their exspectaions, it's like being fired from a job due to somebody being a sh*tty worker going back to their old employer and saying well i have good work ethics now! yet sill not proving worth, even now. lol
I can see what you're saying, but have you ever heard the immortal words, "You're not what we're looking for right now" from an interviewer?
I don't think the worker was "sh*tty", I just think that the company was looking to expand in a different sector. The company down the road though maybe targeting a different section of the market where this type of worker would excel.
Catch my drift?
Also, how many times have we seen a game look and play really badly when shown at a show like E3 only for it to completely change a year later. Now tell me FOUR years won't make a difference!
I'd rather they play really poorly at E3 and improve over time, than set the bar too high to begin with and then struggle to make it a reality (*cough* Killzone)
Who cares, gOD of WAR is much better!
Why buy Bioware when they always release their top games on your platform.
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