Although the Nintendo Wii is handily outselling the competition, it isn't as universally loved as previous market leaders like the NES, Super NES, Playstation and Playstation 2.
Yes just yes.... It appeals to the most people therefore it deserves to be market leader.... What a pointless topic.
People seem to forget that the NES was panned by the "hardcore gamers" (at the time, the PC gamers)in its first year or two for having lots of shovelware, having a "kiddy" image, for being underpowered (an 8-bit system amidst 16-bit era), and for being gimmicky (the Powerglove, the Light Gun, R.O.B., etc.) People seem to forget that the PS1 first was panned for being "the new kid on the block" with "no good games" and "no good exclusives" and "inferior hardware to the upcoming N64". The Gameboy was panned for having crappy graphics compared to the Game Gear. The PS2 was first mocked for the hard-to-program-for "Emotion Engine" that developers claimed "Uggggh! It's SOOO hard to program for!" (sound familiar?) and claimed that the Dreamcast would win because the hardware was easier to use. Yes. Believe it or not, but even the mighty PS2 was "teh doomed!" in its first two years. The Nintendo DS was almost universally panned for the goofy two-screen design with a touch-screen. Many "professional analysts" claimed that the DS touch screen would go to waste and that no one outside of Nintendo's 1st-party devs would even bother with the touch screen controls. They claimed that the inferior graphics and multimedia capabilities of the PSP would demolish the DS. Then -- of course -- people claimed the Wii would be an astronomical failure. My oh my. How people forget.
The Wii is not for us. It can barely be called a console - as much as we understand that term now. The Wii is comparable to Tickle-Me Elmo. It's cute and inoffensive. It doesn't push the boundaries of technology in terms of visuals or sound. I personally don't like what's it doing to gameplay and control. It's success is commendable. But it's not a part of the current console war.
If it is the market leader it deserves to be. It's that simple. Smart business people don't complain about who the market leader but rather look at what made them successful and learn from it. It's this whole "do they deserve to be market leader" mentality that destroyed the american auto industry. Rather than accepting that Toyota and Honda were building cars that consumers were actually more willing to pay their hard earned cash for and learning from those, GM, Ford and Chrysler tried to bribe the federal govt into putting up trade barriers and tried other legislation (like suing) while continuning to manufacture garbage in the hope that there are enough stupid americans who will rather buy american made garbage than foreign made quality.
why dose a system deserve success or failure? really a pointless article that brings nothing new, or even makes good arguments. not saying anything in it is wrong, but just look at any game forum if u want to read this stuff about the Wii.
Gwave, Did you say the PS1 had no good games? no Exclusives? Inferior hardware? When it was announced that sony was making a console with a CD drive EA and square were full on board. I think you forget a year before the PS1 launched every game mag was talking about FF7. after that nintendo started surviving only on there first party exclusives. every mag I would read would talk about how much more storage the PS1 would have.(sound familiar PS3) The reason why I got a PS1 was because of how many awesome games it had.
somebody is coming to buy mine right now. should be here in about 5 min. The wii is so awesome i get to sell it for almost as much as i paid! thanks for the marketing nintendo! cant wait to get rid of this thing!
We cannot judge the "success" or "failure" of anything based on our own opinionated standards. Just because it does not fulfill our needs, doesn't mean it's bad. It simply isn't right for us. Personally, I see the Wii in its own separate category. You can't compare it to the 360 and the PS3, because that's like comparing apples to oranges. They're two totally different breeds of console. The Wii is a successful casual console. The PS3 and 360 are successful core consoles. The Wii is in a different market, and within its own market, it is indeed successful. It has its own rate of success unrelated to the other two consoles. I didn't like The Dark Knight. Does that mean it's a bad movie? Absolutely not! So many people love it. Why? Because it's a great movie. I just didn't like it because it didn't appeal to me. The movie didn't coincide with my own personal style. That is perfectly reasonable.
IcarusOne I don't know about you but I'm having fun beating my hardcore games on the Wii from this gen and the VC. Maybe it's not for you but who are you? I mean are you really hardcore or just one of those casual gamers going around cheering for HD graphics on consoles? When you can hate a system or make it out to be hardcore when it houses some of the best classic games is pretty cannibalistic towards your hardcore member ship. The Wii deserves what it is getting because it is not relying on gimmicks like a DVD player, CD player, or online. While those are all great things they are gimmicks in the face of a game console that should be playing games. Face it your bored and you know it. You should find another hobby if you are. You can't call your self hardcore and if you can not like the games on the VC or even the games on the Wii.
Are you serious?! I'm not hating on your cute little kiddy system, but now I'm laughing at you and how defensive and personal you've made this post. Plus, when you start calling things like DVD and online connectivity gimmicks, you're clearly severely disconnected from the current trend of mainstream gaming. However, you seem to have a lock on being a mainstream douchebag. Kudos.
Gwave , wouldn't let me edit. I got my dates mixed up. FF7 was announced 4 months after the launch of the PS1 with square stating that there were limitations on the N64. Square backing the Ps1 a year before N64 launched. PS1 had a great launch with 8 games. All the press was good before launch and had great advertising. I think they sold 3.1 million in there first year. All before the N64 launch. There were solid third party exclusives and great first party games.
The fear is that it will set a precedent for The high end console makers to follow, Imagine if the next generation consoles from MS and Sony are low end, throw away toys rather than multifaceted entertainment machines? whether you are a fanboy of a particular high end console,a hardcore gamer or a media buff, don't we at least agree that if every console became a clone of the Wii console gaming as we know it will essentially die. and, I don't know about you people, But, I really don't want to sit in front of a 22" screen in an office chair to play games anymore. I really like my 100" high def screen, surround sound and comfortable seats.
hell Yes it does! the marketing campaign for the Wii was genius! Not to mention Nintendo has a strong list of established franchises.
A waggle controller does not make a game console next gen. Processing power does and any peripherals that come with it are just extras. That being said, the Wii will have to surpass the PS2 to become the market leader of last generation. As for this gen, it is not even on my charts in terms of gaming devices. It's just been too big a let-down these last few months.
@IcarusOne lets welcome Captain Obvious! "Tickle-Me Elmo"(hey come on, its ticklish.) "cute and inoffensive"(LOL'd. i need more blood and gore. im feeling it. YES! YES! on my [email protected]!~) "visuals or sound"(i wan to play my games on a 4k cinema. i wan 10.1 surround sound) "I personally don't like what's it doing to gameplay and control."(i am so shy that i despise certain things. i know its wrong but i have to be a boy. in fact, im motor clumsy. i cant sync properly to the game. im hopeless. i can only enjoy visual games. im not too sure if im blind or what. perhaps im color blind but i still can "see"! im borned with extra-sensory perception. i can filter out the voice i want to hear in an extremely noisy room.) "It's success is commendable. But it's not a part of the current console war."(yea thats right. its not part of the current console war. you are still in your fantasy, my friend. the war has ended long ago. oh yeah i forgt. you cant end a war without declaring defeat or surrender. okay, ill act on behalf of ps360.. *raising* then *waving* white flag) @SiLeNt KNighT yup, you shld. before you start embarrassing yourself. @SL1M DADDY "A waggle controller does not make a game console next gen." let me help free your thoughts: "i don't like that controller. it makes me.. it makes me feel like a kid. see how it works? i have to shake. thats waggle!" "Processing power does and any peripherals that come with it are just extras." my PC has always been next-gen regardless of this-gen consoles. whats up with your PS3/xbox360? "stupid! i want my Sim Nuclear game on my PS360!!" "That being said, the Wii will have to surpass the PS2 to become the market leader of last generation." incredible, how many of us owns a PC? i hope it does surpass that. ill let you have the liberty. you can combine all your so-called next-gen consoles. there you have it. your numbers =] "As for this gen, it is not even on my charts in terms of gaming devices. It's just been too big a let-down these last few months." hmm okay.. maybe i shld try to be a little soft next time.
Certainly not ,the wii is one of the worst consoles i have ever played.not because its aimed at kids or their mums but for the number one reason THE GAMES ARE CRAP.the games industry has always been about moving technology forward like better graphics,online ect with each gen.with the wii i think nintendo has taken us a step backwards with shameless gamecube rehashes of its old franchises.the revolution of a controller is an inaccurate gimmick which detracts from the games rather than adding anything.i think the 360/ps3 has a far better selection of games for the young and family but they have been blinded to this by the hype surrounding the wii.lets hope sony/ms dont follow nintys low tech,wand direction next gen.please god
@donnie080208 "the wii is one of the worst consoles i have ever played" because "with each gen.with the wii i think nintendo has taken us a step backwards with shameless gamecube rehashes of its old franchises.the revolution of a controller is an inaccurate gimmick which detracts from the games rather than adding anything." Genius. lol. You need to do an IQ test. A psychometrician is especially needed while you are doing the test to make sure you didnt cheat.
Question, what have you played? What games are crap? I mean if you picked up E for every one shovel ware then that is your fault. Qualify your statement or we will have to assume your are just a fan boy. There are plenty of good games along with the VC. Oh you don't like classic gaming? The prices are too high yet you can over pay for HD games that are on avg 10-20 dollar less on PC? Face it you may not be a gamer, in the console since you may just be a PC gamer. Go and get ET:QW and I'll see you only.
From a business standpoint they have done everything right to garner the position they are in. Forget about graphics a fun game is a fun game. While graphics do help (the main reason why I own a PS3) it's not the only thing that matters. And the part in the article about alienating the hardcore is bu**sh!t. This gens "HARDCORE" are nothing but raving fanboys that choose to piss on anything that is different then their choice in game, console, genre, developer, etc. To me if you are truly hardcore you play a game no matter what system its on because that game is good and well made. For example I will play a game on whatever I have as long as the game is fun. PC, 360, PS3, DS, PSP, Cell Phone, Wii, no matter if the game is fun and well made it well take away from the very few minutes of spare time I have. Nintendo did their research and despite what the "HARDCORE" will say they are the current #1 this gen and both companies (MS and Sony) are gonna have to pull something out their arse if they plan on taking that title away.
Because gaming has always been about tech...I mean, the lowest game tech on the market has never been the market leader...right? (as long as you ignore pretty much the entire Sega vs. Nintendo generation). The playstations were hardly universally loved, same could be said about the SNES or NES. The Wii deserved to be market leader because of Nintendo's better marketing strategy. Make something that appeals to a wider demographic that has been ignored, cater as much as possible to both new and former gamers, as well as those who have been gaming for a long time, and sell at a profit. As opposed to what MS and Sony seem to be doing which is: cram box full of whatever gamers want, ignore other demographics until it becomes clear we can't, hope we break even. This is of course, without going into personal opinions on games and stuff, because I could say that I prefer most Wii games over 360/PS3 games because graphics don't matter to me that much, neither does online play (to a certain extent) and I love the Wii controller scheme...so any of those arguments are pretty much moot to begin with.
wtf so i guess ps2 didn't deserve to be the market leader last gen because the xbox blow the ps2 graphic in outer space.
No. From a bussiness person perspective Yes. Nin took a very very big gamble with the wii and it paid off big time for them and they deserve their success. Again. People must understand by now that the wii is really not in direct competition with x360 and PS3. People who buy the wii buy the wii because its not a PS3 or x360. People that prefer modern traditional gameing as in 5th and 6th gen prefers the x360 or PS3.
before i go on explaining myself, 1) Hardcore gamers perspective (of course?? lol) 2) People who buy the wii buy the wii because its not a PS3 or x360. (of course??) 3) People that prefer "modern traditional" gameing as in "5th and 6th gen" prefers the "x360 or PS3". hmm.. maybe there is no need for me to explain.
you will find that most hardcore gamers don't look at the wii for their hardcore gameing fix. How hard is this for you to understand?. Are you seriously saying that people that played MGS1,2,3. RE1,2,3,4. Halo 1,2. GT 1,2,3 etc are the same group of people that are buying the wii in droves? Please lets not kid ourselves here. Generally people that buy the x360 or PS3 for their specific gaming needs i.e next gen HD games buy the x360 or the PS3 for this specific purpose. You will not find any gamer that has been looking for to Gears or KZ2 buying a wii for those games type of games. Its the opposite scenario for those that buy the wii.
What are you on about, even moms and dads will be buying the Wii for the games that they know. They buy the console for Nintendo games, both hardcore and casual. Look at how many own Mario Kart, Super Mario Galaxy and Brawl. Nintendo is the company they'll be most familiar with and it's the one they can depend on to have games suitable for children. These casual gamers do enjoy games, Nintendo games. Just like many of them will enjoy Singstar, Guitar Hero and LittleBigPlanet. Where did this superiority complex come from? I don't have one and I have a 360.:S
you will find that most hardcore gamers don't look at the wii for their hardcore gameing fix. How hard is this for you to understand?. gosh.. to think i have to explain this simple question. are you hardcore gamer? am i hardcore gamer? LOLx. bah! simple.. you will find that every hardcore gamers look at the wii for their hardcore gaming fix. How hard is this for you to understand? (i thought whatever you said was alrdy clear enough. it was self-explanatory. seems like people do not understand themselves and then they try to understand others. good job! hahaz) Are you seriously saying that people that played MGS1,2,3. RE1,2,3,4. Halo 1,2. GT 1,2,3 etc are the same group of people that are buying the wii in droves? Please lets not kid ourselves here. sorry, may i ask how old are you? i just don't feel like answering your question anymore. Generally people that buy the x360 or PS3 for their specific gaming needs i.e next gen HD games buy the x360 or the PS3 for this specific purpose. You will not find any gamer that has been looking for to Gears or KZ2 buying a wii for those games type of games. OMG!! one word. GRAPHICS. reason why people buy your so-called next-gen console is because of GRAPHICS thats all. im going to slap this truth to your face right now. these people only know how to candy their eyes. they know nothing about games. i don't call these people hardcore gamers. they are more like candy gamers, eyeing for candy graphics. Its the opposite scenario for those that buy the wii. duhz.
It's More of a Novelty Item than Anything Else So No !! And to be Honest I Dont Consider the 360 a Next Gen Console Either Its Just a Cheap False Gamers Console
@the Chronic No the mod just clearly isnt an idiot like you are.. Maybe he didnt want someone else thinking that Wii is a toy because they might not be a complete idiot and when they see the PS3 and 360 sitting right beside it they'll also consider it a toy.. Maybe someone people are just smart enough that they do not want to hurt the image of gaming just so some fanboys feel better about being in last place
im not doubting nintendos marketing it just seems that almost every game not made by them is utter crap.sure the most graphically advanced machine doesnt allways win,what im saying is theres allways been a step up ie ps1 to ps2 saturn to dreamcast ect.it just seems that with the wii we have stepped backwards.mario kart ,wii fit nothing thats not been done or thought of before all thats changed is its caught the publics and medias fickle eye.personally cant wait for the bottom to fall out for ninty so it doesnt threaten future gens of consoles and gamers.
"sure the most graphically advanced machine doesnt allways win,what im saying is theres allways been a step up ie ps1 to ps2 saturn to dreamcast ect.it just seems that with the wii we have stepped backwards." i believe you are standing on the wrong "autopedescalator". ok i know i know, i shld help out instead of just pointing out flaws. ok i want to assure you that we are not stepping backwards. we are moving on. "personally cant wait for the bottom to fall out for ninty so it doesnt threaten future gens of consoles and gamers." the console you want to play is PS3 and/or Xbox360 so you should not be bothered by the fact. if you want PS3 or Xbox360 to be the market leader, simply get more of you to play the games.
So you could play excite truck, Prime, SMG and the conduit on the GC wow really, well why didn't they make those games then? The 3rd parties where not trying at all and now they are you'll see the difference soon.
the gamecube was stronger then the ps2.....so yea it all about the tech.We know how the gamecube sold.I think it safe to say it not about tech.Its all comes down to games and user base so.All you fanboys can cry all day long fact is games and user base and right now the wii got the user base.
i don't like the fact that because the wii is mainly viewed as a family console that it's bombarded with pointless minigame compilations but im also glad that the wii has been selling as well as it has been because nintendo took a huge risk with the wii and if it wouldn't have paid off that woulda been 3 generations of systems that didn't sell too well and i never wanna see nintendo end up the way sega did. Videogames without a nintendo console just seems wrong to me, ha.
But not in the same market as the ps360.
I was suspended for this comment: Your current restrictions at N4G Gamer Zone You can't comment in the Gamer Zone "Yes it deserves to be market leader of the TOY MARKET not videogame consoles." Restriction time left: 6 days 22 hours 11 min This comment was not meant to start a flame war it is PURELY MY OPINION. this goes to show the MOD that deleted it is biased to nintendo If you look at other comments someone else said the samething except they didnt say the toy market but their comment wasnt deleted. N4G is going downhill ever since they made old wizard a mod here LMAO
No, Why? They have done nothing new other then reintroduce (and design) a controller that failed in the 80's, they bring nothing new to the console market, they make the same games they have always made with little to no graphical update from there Gamecube predecessors. The only thing Nintendo has done is get old people interested in gaming and that will not last and has already started to dwindle.
Yes, they do deserve it. Nintendo is the only true gaming company that makes a console, Sony is a multimedia company(which is obvious by the way they push their other media) and MS is a software company(also obvious with the 360). Nintendo actually care despite what many people would say, the reason being simply that gaming is all they do now, they depend on it. ...And Miyamoto is an absolute genius. He hasn't forgotten that gaming's about fun, not about who can render the most polygons.
so danm right. the reason i bought my wii is because i want to play game. nmot watch dvd or picture, listen to music or go to the internet. i just want to play games. so pointless nowadays that people count pixel before pressing the start button.
I am a former Wii owner, so I can agree with some of the things you said, but you also mentioned this: "Miyamoto is an absolute genius. He hasn't forgotten that gaming's about fun, not about who can render the most polygons". That might be true, but with that statement, it seems like you want to say that every game on PS3 and 360 isn't fun. And that is NOT true.
Oh no, that's not what I'm saying there's a lot of game that are a blast to play on the 360 and PS3(only played Motorstorm, which is immense fun). I just don't like that graphics are the main priority for a lot of games, I feel if you concentrate too much on looking good who will really lack substance.(I've heard this complaint about Crysis and it was the case with the Bouncer on the PS2). EDIT: Not directed at anyone specifically but a lot of "casual" gamers are actually Nintendo fans, there are a lot of people(a lot of parents too) that trust Nintendo and enjoy their games. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, why should there be an age limit on gaming? why should there be certain credentials for being a gamer?
Spoon... you make a valid point(s) but there's no denying... developers aren't really trying with the Wii, while loads of games on PS3/360 strive to innovate genres and push new features and styles of gameplay (an yeah.. quality of presentation)... big games on Wii, are just stuck in the past (however fun they may be) LittleBigPlanet for example, blew me away with what it did.. as well as be really enjoyable.... something Super Smash Bros. Brawl... was just Melee with more content, super fun regardless... but yeah only now are we seeing a glimpse of change in this respect (aside from SMG).. with MadWorld pushing a richly unique visual style and quality of gameplay, but i can't see anything else that will do something like this still... i love my Wii, and Super Mario Galaxy is one of the best games this generation
The thing is, you're comparing new IP to a sequel game. Rest assured, a Little Big Planet 2 will seem new and fresh in some aspects, but still be the same game. If Brawl was radically different, no one would like it, so the comparison isn't really fair. Don't forget that developers are starting to pay attention to the rail shooter again, you mentioned Madworld, so that's a plus, there's The Conduit with it's impressive control and display scheme, and many other titles.
Xander-RKoS there are tons of new games on the Wii, new Ips even. LBP simply is not "hardcore" enough for the HD crowd. They want online not a level editor. They don't want platforming , that's for kids. They want badly woven stories that only have cool hype to them. They the hardcore are not concern with playing games ,yet they are more concerned with winning the fan boy war. I bet if MS put a system counter of life time sales for the xbox 360 in the dash board of the online service fanboys would love it. I bet SONy would follow suit LOL, because we all know that all these fanboys care about. Hey you guys may like your HD console but it's been high jacked by PC gamers and they are not giving it back. Anything that s not a FPS or variation of that will soon be gone from your machine. It may not be doom for the system but it will be doom for console gamers. I'm having a hard time finding fun games or a challenge on the HD console with out online. You can put ninja gaiden up there but bad camera systems don't count as a challenge, please the game not still figure out if it wants to show an over the shoulder view or a behind the player view. The only games I'm impressed with right now is an SNK's fighter game and capcom's lost planet 2. Yet I'd rather play it on the PC. The HD gen just feels nerfed then on top of that the reviews are way to high for such titles that don't have a lot of replay value. Getting trophies is not a replay value that's like playing all of those collect the pieces games. The same one's you guys call childish. Seriously you guys are confusing MS and SONY and 3rd parties are starting to wonder what you want. Game will start to be put on other systems if you guys can not be more hardcore like and tell other why the GAME PLAY is so good.
change the way everyone plays a video game. Everyone else just added a better graphics chip.
of course they do. Nintendo made their own market and are now expanding upon that. Im waiting for the next console from Nintendo with HD graphics.
MS is now the market leader kids. NIntendo has been removed because you cry all the time and SOny was removed because like Nintendo games are not their main focus... Cant have it both ways kiddies. If the movie player is counted as a console than why not Wii? If we cant count Wii we damn sure cant count PS3 as a console. The best selling thing on PS3 is a movie anyway. So we wont list movie players as consoles anymore.
MS the market leader? Best selling thing on PS3 a movie? Troll.
blu ray movies are amazing and the ps3 has plenty of games worth playing, hmm let me look in my drawer....yea 21 ps3 games, 9 of them exclusives, and i own 8 wii games. The wii and ps3 are both good systems but saying that the ps3 is only meant for movies is just plain stupid. All the consoles out right now are great, people just lose focus and get caught up in flamewars about which console is better. its really pathetic. The 360/ps3 offer a more in depth gaming experience whereas the wii seems to be more about throwbacks or family games. Im sure ill get flamed for that but its the truth. Oh and im sure they'll be someone saying, "motion controls are more in depth than flicking a control stick!" Im sorry but thats not the case, all wii does right now is make fps easier to aim. Lets wait till wii motion plus to see how in depth developers get with 1:1 controls.
the best selling thing on PS3 is GTA4... great movie i agree oh and you were shamelessly referring to MGS4 i presume... well done on the original pun, now try playing the game and realizing it sh!ts all over most current gen games... AND THAT'S JUST THE GAMEPLAY!!!!... i'm not even going to go into the presentation and story, convoluted as it is... but that's the beauty of it, MGS4 is unmatched this gen @Spoon The Dark Knight on Blu-Ray hasn't outsold GTA4... so that statement is invalid EDIT: no it hasn't.. the idiot was making a jab at MGS4 most likely
I think he's referring to The Dark Knight Blu-Ray. And when he's talking about the leader in the console market he's on about the fact that many think of the Wii as a toy and the PS3 is a multimedia hub(not gaming consoles, according to Sony anyway). Therefore the 360 is the one console left. He doesn't believe the 360 is the best he's just trying to dispel the claims that the Wii is a toy. EDIT: Hasn't it? I thought that was what he was referring to.
You got it Spoony. People want to cry the Wii shuldnt be considered a console because it is a "toy". The similar argument can be used against the PS3. It doesnt count as a console because its main focus is movies. "The wii and ps3 are both good systems but saying that the ps3 is only meant for movies is just plain stupid" No stupid is reading what I wrote and then coming away thinking I said that anywhere in my post. Read again. I didnt say it was only a movie player. Just that its main focus is movies. Lastly, I was referring to Dark Knight. The only thing that sold well enough on PS3 last year to warrant any kind of media attention. If you do not like what I am saying. Sorry but the argument presented here is exactly what it leads to. If Nintendo doesnt count over some lame pathetic excuse then you can also rule out MS/Sony for some lame pathetic excuse. Stop the excuses and just deal with Nintendo being the market leader. You can take opinions to extremes but so can others and in the end it accomplishes nothing. People who buy the Wii play games on it. They buy lots of games for it.Sony forgot their roots. Not going to punish Nintendo for that or say their sales do not count because in the end I could probably find just as many reasons why Sonys sales shouldnt count or even why MS shouldnt count.
That is my personal opinion.
if sales were directly proportional to quality and value... the PS3 would be leagues ahead in 1st place but Nintendo worked hard to pull themselves up from the verge of bankruptcy, and created a product so flawlessly mass market and mass appealing.. and in that respect, yes, they do deserve to be the market leader
You were right in saying that Nintendo created a really well marketed producted but were very wrong in saying they were on the verge on bankruptcy!! They made money off the GC and the N64 from the very first second on the market. They were making money just not as much as they liked. Plus saying that the PS3 would be first if quality was in ratio with the units sold is your opinion - although I completely agree with you!! But that's just our opinion!
They work hard for it.Unlike some company's that thought there name along could put them back on top of the console war.Give credit where credit is due.
You are refering to SONY. If so...you are very wrong.
Kutaragi is out. Regardless of your ignorant statement the ps3 is still a great system. All being a fanboy does is make you miss out on other great games. (I learned that the hard way by not buying a ps2 last gen.) I'd buy a 360 also, but i don't like the rrod. Maybe once that is non-existent ill pick one up.
WOW hatchimatchi that was stupid. So let me guess you had a GC right? Please don't tell me all you had was a DC LOL. I even got a Ps2 because you know I play games and that's where my games where. No I did not buy GTA, GT, GOW. I did get shadow, and some other games I'll never play again. But I got it mostly to play Einhander and stuff like that. Serious man you are preaching at us when your own fanboy ideas made you miss out on games. You also have a hard time telling us fellow gamers about good Wii games almost like you simple can not try them out. I've never been a fan of a company but I do give credit and MS has beat sony at their own game, while dragging them into their which is PC gaming. Next gen MS will put a nail in the coffin even if don't win this gen because MS owns the PC platform and it's tech. Blu-ray will get eclipsed by some thing else that bigger and better or just plain cheaper just like laser disk. Lots of people say that SONY and blu ray was a mistake in the PS3 but I will have to say it is not when I look back. So far it is the only thing you can claim as a reason to have one. The exclusive are pretty lame, I love MG4 as a game designer and artist but it's boring as hell to play. Lucky all of the new gamers grew up on these games so this is all they know. Nintendo is seriously kicking a$$. They have the casuals and they made it real easy for the hardcore studios to make games on their system with out butcher their games. Hell they even game them control options to make those games better! Blaming nintendo right now is like running into a wall and telling your mom it hit you. Hey they may make sense in your mind but believe me it doesn't.
Boring article, but in answer to the question - yes.
ps2 is, and for portable systems the DS is
Sorry but PS2 was a LAST generation console. Console generations are not measured by the opinions of fanboys. Console gens start when a company brings a new console out. The PS2 and GC were competing with each other. It's pathetic and just lame trying to shoehorn 2 different consoles from 1 maker in one console gen. Let's do it this way. Sure Wii isnt a current gen console, but since the PS2 was so weak lets say it started two generations ago because its power didnt compare to the GC or xbox. So the PS3 is actually Sonys last gen console along with the Wii from Nintendo. IF the Wii is too weak to count as current gen than the PS2 cant count as a last gen console.
What the F is a hardcore gamer anyway, and when did anyone, since The Big N introduction, not at least play any 1 game on their consoles.
PS3 is using the Same Controller that they started with on the PS2.Do you think Sony deserve to be the market leader with those type of tactic.(NOPE)Microsoft Had the Red Ring's of Death so they dont deserve it eather.Only the Big N deserve the Crown and you guy's know it;s true.(Bubble's if im Right)
I still love Nintendo, games have changed drastically, on some fronts, and honestly, I don't care about the controller, I still play regardless, but the games count 10 fold more, but I didn't say it was lame. You can have an innovative controller, but when the games don't match the experience, who cares. I'm not gonna hit disagree, with no explanation.
yea they have the same controller cause it still works fine, why fix something if it isn't broken. 360 has a great controller too but the control pad is terrible, imo. The wii works well for some games but not for others. Plus for a system based on motion control gameplay there sure are alot of buttons, lets compare... wiimote+nunchuk=8 buttons (not to mention in some shooters the control pad is mapped to functions so that makes a possible 12 buttons)(i didnt count the home button) ps3=10 buttons (i didnt count the start/select/or home button) 360=10 buttons also (i think, don't own one, just going off the top of my head) so maybe you should think more thoroughly when you bring up controllers. --- lol, how can you disagree with this? im going off exactly what the controllers have. some people....sheesh
hatchimatchi buy a classic control dude. Really and the PS3 controller sucks have you play SF4 on it WOW! Lots of games that need the CC actually give the option to use it. The PS brand controller has always sucked for every thing unless you are using the analogs yet that can't be used for every thing just like motion controls. On top of that they didn't even do motion controls right for the PS3. Are you still playing war hawk? Well 8 million are stilling play mario kart and Wii sports, and play etc.