shows the power of the ps3 physics
And I remain ever unimpressed by number-crunching demos.
On the plus side, how many people here watched "Home Movies?" If you did, then you know why I was laughing during that entire video.
Just to clarify, floating triangles and vertices and shaders and stuff just don't MEAN much to me. I'm sure the above may be some great technical achievement, but not one that I can appreciate (not as in don't care, but as in just doesn't mean anything). Fluid dynamics stuff I can kind of grasp the significance of, but other than that, pointing out how many triangles or cubes or lit, self-shadowing faces just doesn't make an impact to me; I'm far more on the consumer end than the developer end.
sony are verry good at showing demos of things their consoles never quite manage to achieve, t-rex sting ray or duckies anyone? let the games do the talking sony cos not many people belive the hype anymore
will this be available in 1080p for download on the PSN? I mean i've only seen this sort of thing done once before on my 32bit amiga500 way back in early 90s.
How long has the PS3 been out??? 4-5 months??? and you expect developers to fully utilize tools and programs JUST recently written and use them for games ??? you got to be kidding me...you talk as if it's very easy to implement programs based of a new processor to it's full potential right off the bat. Hype is potential, it takes time to fill that. People like you are the same people that bashed sony when the PS2 first came out and went into hiding when they finally started to release good games. Hows about that Madden clip EA showed using the awesome powers of the 360 during the MTV sepcial?? If you are going to put the PS3 in it's coffin or bash sony without even letting the developers have ONE year to progress and utilize the technology then that shows that you are clearly a lowly fanboy.
P.S. this is offa the GDC.... if you don't know the the GDC is by now let me explain to you the basics of this conference.
Game Developers/progammers get together for a conference and share/showcase tools,demos,technology and programs that is used for consoles and games. By doing this, developers may be interested and use that technology to make games with... this isn't E3 or TGS, this conference was created for developers and personel of the game making industry.
and there are still ALOT of people still believing the hype, look at europe.
"At the same time we have this running, we can have other things like cloth simulation and fluids"
Then, why don't they have it in the tech demo?
I'd love to play that game with the cubes, looked like a lot of fun...
Since I actually do this stuff, I'm just gonna let you guys know that rigid body simulations on this scale in realtime are VERY impressive. With that many objects, it's not farfetched to spend 30 seconds to 1 minute per frame every time an animator calculates a scene. Doesn't sound like much until you realize that animations run at 30 frames per second, so that's a whole lot of waiting..
Fluid Dynamics take even longer on traditional CPUs.
the reason i dont take this video that serious is because all of the falling blocks are primitive cubes, they should show 20+ collapsing buildings and stuff like that.
i think we may be getting lost in something that really doesn't relate to why we would buy a PS3. That's not to say this stuff isn't impressive,relatively speaking, but this won't sway me to buy a PS3 in a couple of weeks, when released in U.K. Give me the games and a price cut, far more impressive. Hopefully i'm not being negative, just practical from a gamers point of view.
I was listening to podcast with a developer last night and they were saying how they hated e3 and that GDC was starting to go the same way. He said that there should not be any game reveals, or games shown at GDC because it is all about the developers and about showing tech demos and that's how it should stay - so why the hell can't you back off and understand that GDC is not for showing games!
in GDC stand for ? Why is it not T for Technical? Something to do with producing games not tech demos, i believe.Anyway, i welcome all views, as they are all valid in my eyes and would never want to silence anyone ,because i don't agree or ,because i think they are wrong, but hey,thats just me.Some people are not so tolerent, i guess.
If you're going to say that about the 'G' you need to realize that the 'G' and the 'D' go together. It's not the Gamers Conference It's the "Game Developers" Conference. This event is not going to showcase great games, It's going to give us great games. Phil Harrison even said that one of the main reasons Sony debuted Home at GDC was so some companies would hopefully see it and get onboard. That way the have the companies onboard for day one. I know we sometimes want everything to be about us the consumer, but sometimes it is we just don't realize it is. Conferences like GDC are the really important ones becuase they give developers the tools they need. Without those tools games like God of War and Gears of War could never be created. So lets not complain too much about the lack of games at GDC let's leave that for E3.
Not a Wicker-basket developer conference.
Not a Game Player Conference.
Not a Game Developer Bath-house.
Why do you have an avatar showing Hitler? Please drop it.
*edit* I see now that his face is changed, but it's still a bit offensive I think. The rest is nazi. Too much, not funny.*
Sorry if my avatar offends you, It is not Hitler, Its Bill Gates holding a flag with the Windows logo on it. I don't agree with any of what Hitler ever did or said, so I would never put up an avatar of Hitler.
That opinion comes from the guy who is making Too Human - you know what game that is? He's also working on MGS4. Most people aren't sitting here waiting - He also said that there should be no more game previews before the games are finished and ready to release - and so he said the death of e3. GDC is about developers, there shouldn't even be film coverage of it. Yes it's about games, but it's not about revealing new games. All the consoles had a game floor - but we've seen all those games before.
Another point of view,well said.
when EA showed that target video of madden, they never claimed it as showing the power of the xbox360. it said madden NEXT-GEN not madden for 360!!
You don't like to talk about the 360's Target Renders huh.
Sony also never said Killzone 2 was running in real time
gnothe1: i understand that, i am in no way trying to bash the 360 or anyother console. All i'm saying is, why are people so quick to jump on Sony and it's technology/games with only 5 months being out?? When sony says they expect their system to do "this or that", everyone starts jumping on them every minute a great AAA title ISN'T released. Yet when a company like EA shows what may be the next gen Madden and fails to deliver anything close to it, nothing happens. Honestly, i've never seen as much unfair criticism when it comes to consoles in my life. No one complained when the 360 launched and they were short in supply, barely had any quality games, had a high defective quantiy of consoles and had almost no backwards compatable games. Yet the PS3 and sony is getting criticism for those exact problems (some being better some being worse) and apparently if they don't deliver the next 9.5 rated game the PS3 will just flop. I have never seen such BS criticism on a console ever. No one wants to talk about how useless a core 360 is, but when it comes to the 20gig PS3 it's just an awful idea. No one wants to talk about the mediocre titles on the Wii, but the ones on the PS3 is pure garage. I just don't like it when some people go around shutting the PS3 down without even letting the developers have atleast ONE year to come out with something.
Reminds me of Tron.
I love that film.
the physics were ok but, in years down the line it will improve dramaticly
the video looks cool, but boring because there just using BLOCKS.
they should have used other things to make it better.
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