GameTrailersTV sit down with Phil Harrison to discuss the recent Home announcement at GDC and how it impacts the future of the PS3. (Part 1)
Because your going to be spending all your money on your character and your house in Home. Inadvertently meaning that if you want to keep Home interesting your going to have to spend money on it at some point. This is nothing against Home I was just stating a point.
Well it will be interesting with all the basics...and you also get stuff, clothes and stuff for your pad when you buy games, or achieve things in games. You can make money to get stuff by making user created content and auctioning it off, or just selling your stuff from your house.
Also companies will pay quite a bit for their own lobby to advertise their products I'm sure.
Want to take the time to make the user-created content and if they do no one is really guaranteed to buy it.(end of rant)
But it does influence people to buy more games in order to unlock more things for Home. But i'm still not a fan of how the publishers are having to pay for bandwidth an so on in the PSN because at some point of time they are going to want to make money to.
Lol true. But also I don't think publishers of games will have to pay much. But I'm talking about companies...eg. Panasonic, Microsoft ?:o, Warner Bros... etc. Plus websites etc...they'll all want to go 3d, and I hear many companies have already got in touch with Sony so they can work together and set up their own 3d space... And you know I think you can avoid going to these places if you dont want to and just stay in your pad, or stay chatting to people (and hopefully not salesmen) in the lobby.
It should be free as there is a key difference between Live and Home...
surely Sony can generate enough money between adverts, Like deepbrown said sponsor homes etc, user content.
But in my opinion i'm fine with private chatting with a friend and I can get all my videos, demos, and so on and so on by just downloading them while being able to look through the movies to see which one I want to rent tonight. I mean what I described just shows the pluses to one way of doing it and what you described showed the pluses of the other way.
You can do all that as well...HOME isn't compulsory...you've still got the XMB etc.
cause sony is in a great position to lose even more money.
If there is one thing i've learned all these years its that advertisements really don't make companies to much money. Just because you see a Dodge Caliber in a game doesn't mean you are now moved to buy one then before. The only real way advertisements work is to show off a product most people don't know about or haven't really seen and the best way to do this is through a video not a picture on the side of a wall.
If you watch the HOME demo the ads ARE videos on walls...also companies can set up their own space where you can try out their products etc...the point is that companies will pay Sony to do this advertising...and that's how Sony will keep it free.
Sony will also keep it free by nickel and dimming for items for your pad or whatever you call it.
If you want it buy it...if you don't don't...faceplates anyone?
And don't forget horse armor :-\
"Horse Armor" that the PS3 cant do. btw
It's not like they're putting us through annual fees, or requiring that we purchase anything along the way.
to keep it free, which I don't think they will because the PSN is already free an these are separate services.But if they do I will definitely get this for my Ps3(when I get one)
another thing!! if this takes off an becomes something special then you sonyboys will get a chance to call MS a copier because we will see somethinng similar on live. they might have already started working on it, then put it on the shelf an wait an see how HOME does!!
...around the same time you guys get ad-ville. Enjoy your FREE-for-now commercial world.
Please go die. You piss me right off you little wanker. Home will stay free with the extras that deepbrown is describing. Also cybersentinel you dont want IPTV because then it becomes more than a games console
-.- and we dont want that do we.
We already have Rentable New Movies, T.V. shows, Demos, Trailers, Videos and more. Myself, I'm looking very much forward to it.
Why are we fighting over something that could be a pretty cool thing in the future. I own the 360 and will probably never own the PS3. (don't game enough to justify the purchase)
The game industry has changed a whole lot in the last few months, which is good for all of us in the long run. So HOME isn't for everyone, but it just might lead to something you do like later. There are a lot of creative people out there working to make our gaming experience better. Let's hear what they have to say before bashing the crap out of it before they are done talking.
To each their own. I don't mind the cost of XBL, and your service is free, who cares anymore? We'll just have to wait and see.
Texas GMR is my gamertag online, so if you want to play and shoot the sh*t, send me a friends request.
"Hope" is not a nice word. "Hope" makes me scared. Because 95 times out of 100, "hope" means "no". =(
You going to pay like Live still HAHAHA. Like i really wanna walk to a certain part of town just to play a game rather than just pressing the "A" On
"Join Session In Progress" in the guide menu.
Damn! sometimes thats the Best words in the World when you look on your friends list when you just wanna catch wreck in any video game.
This Home sh1t is Tired. M$ gonna huff and puff and blow your Home Down (This Fake Phantasy Star Online Sh1t.).
BTW is there Public transportaion in this little world? Can you buy a car to travel in? Cause im not walking a mile to view someones gamer card.
I don't know if you've read the other news, but there is one that says "everything that can be in HOME can be done on the XMB", also on the official document it says you don't have to walk around everywhere but can just bring up the xmb and jump to anywehre you want. Your view of HOME is very misinformed.
"Horse Armor" that the PS3 CANT do. btw"
?????? Have you been living under a rock? The memory issue RUMOR was shot down by Bethesda reps. It's obvious you are a 360 fanboy, so I am confused as to why you are looking at a news article regarding Playstation Home in an attempt to put down the PS3. Jealousy? Fear?
I own a PS3, but plan on buying a 360/PS3 want to be (Black, larger hard drive, HDMI)when Fable 2 and Halo 3 come out... if said 360 is ever released??... As a result, I currently look at news regarding the PS3 and the 360 games I am interested in. This being said, please keep your fanboy/ignorant/of topic comments to yourself. It would make everyone else's experiences on these forums more enjoyable and productive...
On another note, I think that Home is a neat idea, and I am excited to give it a shot. I am a little worried about advertisements, but if they are not obnoxious and are simply banners and movie style billboards I don't think there will be a problem.
As far as getting nickle and dimed to death by Sony, M$ is no better. If I spend $50 a year customizing my Home, I am simply spending the same amount on PSN as I am spending on Xbox live. As an added bonus, my Home will reflect my own personal interests and attitudes to a greater degree than on Xbox live, making it seem more worthwhile to me. However, I think comparing XBL and Home is rather difficult because their goals, while similar, are achieved through different means.
Does anyone know when Home Beta sign-up is supposed to begin?
I have nothing to fear at all. This "Great Innovation" called "HOME", is nothing more then a 3D chat room. With 360 I can actually see the person I am talking to, not some cartoon representation of him. If there's one thing I'm familiar with, its MMO management, and if advertisements and microtransactions don't generate sufficient funds to host this "Service", there will be fees.
Until there is an "official" statement from Microsoft regarding any "Black HDMI" being released to retail, its called a rumor, one that was probably crafted by Sony themselves in order to confuse unsure customers. This tactic also frightens any current impatient PS3 owners to wait for this "Mysterious" HDMI version, since many early adapting PS3 owners are most likely HDMI users. Its nothing more then a fear tactic, with the picture of a development kit shown as "Evidence".
Until Microsoft says differently, Don't believe the hype ppl.
Blind Lemmings, Sony Loves You.
and lets say that there are not enough advertisers,if they asked for $10 dollars a year,it wouldn't bother me.because then they would be doing things that live or miis aren't doing.
most say i wouldn't do HOME.it's sims or second life.but you talk about gamer points or achievements like you REALLY got something.it's just text that you did something in a virtual world.but i would say that 3d representations of those things is better than text.nfl2k5 had the cool crib feature.i could "SEE" my accomplishments sitting in the trophy case.i could see the objects i put in the crib.that's just better than text.
but sony one ups that with you interacting in 3d,not just voice or text.interacting with other ps3 gamers.that's just cool.and with all the possible things that could be added,the visual and audio experience is better.it's why people play games like WOW or everquest on pc.you get to slay monsters with other people.and talk and get to know them at the same time.and that's millions.and you see their character.
would you rather play "TEXT OF WAR ON 360" OR "TEXT TURISMO 5 ON PS3"?nope.me neither.i'd pay for a 3d experience that allows online play and community interaction than text.but the cool thing is............................ ............................... ............................... ............................... ............................... ............................... ............................... ...."IT'S FREE TO DOWNLOAD!" "IT'S FREE TO NOT USE IT!"
who doesn't like free?
www.there.com its well good and FREE but you can end up spending an absolute fortune on bits n bobs.... I think this is a great thing for PS3 and think that there will definatly be something similar on 360...
You side stepped pretty much everything that I said, but I love your conspiracy theory regarding the black xbox 360. I have heard the exact opposite actually....but hey at least we can both agree on the fact that at the moment it is nothing more than a rumor.
If you think that Home is nothing more than a 3d chat room then you are mistaken. Chat is one aspect of Home, but it's not the only thing Home offers to its users. By the way, PSN also supports video chat, and wait.... yeah, its a free service....
Once again, I am left wondering why you ventured to this news page and felt compelled enough to bash sony in support of M$ with your ignorant, off topic, misinformed comments. I must admit though, I am still laughing at the fact that you tried to use the horse armor as a means to bash the PS3. Pure fanboyism, use old and tired RUMORs that have been debunked, who do you think you are going to fool?
you need to double check before you state things!! you said the PSN supports voice an video chat!! NO it doesn't!! the developers has to implement video an voice chat in there games.but the PSN does not have a place where your can go to start any chats(voice,video)unless your playing A GAME that supports those features!!unlike XBL I can start either chat without starting a game!! an if I'm wrong about the PSN then please drop a link stating otherwise!!
Here is your link:
"The PS3™ system supports voice / video chat. Additional chat options, such as in-game chat, may be available through game software. For details, refer to the instructions supplied with the software in use."
Supports both in game and out of game video/voice chat via Friends icon on the XMB...
To restate your exact words; "you need to double check before you state things!!"
To be fair, I believe this was changed in the v1.54 firmware update.
Way to sound like a douchebag Gnothe1. Home has all the M$ fanboys up in arms! I guess things are lookin up for the PS3!!
iptv is going to cost money on top of live because u have to go to ur cable provider or whoever they are making a deal with and ask for it and they are going to bill u for it. so have fun payign for live and your beloved iptv which is still going to have commercials because its tv. Eventually PSN is going to be greater than Xbox live its inevitable. and if u say it isnt then ur just being iggnorant and being in denial. Xbox live will always be the same 2d dashboard u are probaly seeing now.
Again Sony fans thought there were getting something for free and again you guys are naive. Nothing in this world is free especially if its sold by Nintendo, Microsoft or Sony.
he also said ((((((we hope to keep it free)))))))))) and when it comes out it will be ((((((free))))))))
((((((Again Jason probaly thought he was making a point once again)))))))))
The point caused you to comment though didn’t it, I’m sorry did I strike a nerve, anger you a little? Was it the word naïve? Naïve naïve naïve. (((WE HOPE))) we can “Hope” all sorts of things don’t mean there going to be true. When Phil Harrison President, Worldwide Studios, Sony Computer Entertainment says "We Hope To Keep HOME Free in the Future" means he’s not sure and cannot promise anything. Unless you think he’s lying and you just don’t want to listen to that mean old liar.
Hope, to me, means something like, we hope to win the world cup, or we hope to win the world series.
It seems to me like they want nothing more then for it to be free, but they doubt it.
Something which will use so much bandwith is going to cost a hefty sum to maintain and keep it fresh, as much as id like to see it free, i feel that at somepoint in the future, when there is finaly a price drop on the console, that they will start to charge for it, or maybe up the prices for items???? Who knows, but to say "We hope" to me doesnt sound very promising, ofcourse i may be wrong.
Some of you people get bent out of shape for no reason. Phil was asked if Home would be free FOREVER. Phil quite rightly answered, "We've never used the phrase, forever. We hope to keep Home free in the future."
Now people, (Who have no intention of getting a PS3 anyway) are trying to twist it into "we're going to start charging just a soon as you get it. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!"
Get real. This is going to be an awesome new way of advertising for a lot of companies to a large consumer base. Obviously people with a PS3 dont mind spending money, or at least they know spending extra to get the product you want isn't the end of all creation.
No ones gonna have to walk for 10 minutes just to jump into a game with your friends. If you really believe that I'm surprised you can even read what I'm typing.
I dont see how people can be so upset over something thats free and optional.
there wasnt a point thats why i commented to inform that there wasnt a ((((point))))
the fact that he says they "hope" tells me it won't be.
Keep it free.
I buy a console for gaming, and gaming only, i welcome extras.
a fee of around 10 pence per day is nothing. (XBL)
PSN is free, great, but they need to make money of it somehow, and if it turns out people do not chose to buy different wall papers and carpets etc... for home then they will need to gain the losses from somewhere.
Keeping in mind they are losing money per console, it wouldnt be wise on keeping it free, seeing as it costs, and the last thing Sony want to do would be to lose more money right? Especialy when most gamers would rather pay a small fee yearly and get a better service? Now im not syaing XBL is better then PSN as i have not played PSN, but surely you get what you pay for right.
The only way i can think of with Sony funding PSN without losing to much money would be if, when purchasin your PS3, some of the cost goes to the funding PSN, like a subsription?
Thinking of it, it wouldnt be a bad idea, say if everything Sony sells, 5p (5 cence??) goes to wards PSN, then they have alot of funding coming in, being able to keep it up to date and fresh, and able to evenly compete with the competion.
What does anyone else think.
"10 pence per day is nothing"
Sure, it still adds up, im not sure what the costs are in pounds for a year of XBL, but if we are to compare prices, one of the constant gripes about the PS3, XBL still costs something.
You have an interesting idea there about contributing a small amount of all Sony sales to PSN. However, you must mean an extra 5 cents on top of all sales? Cause I mean seriously, they are already taking the fees to run PSN from the sales as it is. As far as adding a subscription cost to PSN, I think that would be a terrible idea. Sony has said it should be free, but I must admit I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up charging something...I'm not sure premium content will provide enough revenue to keep everything free.
By a subscription i never ment what xbl has, i simply ment taking a set percentage from every PS product sold, and basicaly give it PSN?
Ofcourse a small percentage as all companies are far more then greedy, and want as much profit as possible... EA any one?
i think sony wont have any problems with funding Home so that is stays free. with all the ads and micro-trans, it should be easy. i couldn't care less if they posted ads on every surface outside of my personal space as long as they keep it free. but i wouldn't mind paying for a few items. i already got my list ready for what i'd pay for:
1) bigger personal home: did you see some of those places, i gotta have a dope crib.
2) custom kicks and clothes: whether i have to buy already made or pay for certain logos i'd do one or the other. i gotta stay fresh.
3) pets: just to have one, i'd do it one time.
4) arcade machines: for my personal space, just in case i don't feel like being bothered, i could play in pool or bowling in peace.
i hope maybe we'll be able to design our own house or car. man i got hella ideas for this one. if they make it easy to use, it might be that killer app that everyone sleeps on until its too late.
Commercial TV uses advertisement that’s the cost of getting TV shows for free your shows are interrupted 2:00 to even 10:00 minutes for advertisement. So with anything Sony has to offer on there network, will it be forced on you like commercial TV? I’m just curious if I’m online meeting up with some buddies will Sony interrupt my interactive experience to display Coke or Pepsi adds? When you download a game trailer will it feature a 30 second add about tampons or something in order to give that game trailer to you free or will there be virtual billboards everywhere? Anyone been on MTV in the last 20 years knows that is where advertising is bad, does it pay the bills yeah, Is it annoying “very”? With Xbox live at least your paying for a premium service where you’re advertising is at a minimum like HBO or Showtime and your security, online, Movie, TV shows, trailers everything gaming (except Micro transactions) is included in the cost and not on a separate system. All you Sony fans that just assume things are free and easy and Sony will give you all this out of the kindness of there heart, WTF you smoken you all should know Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony don’t have hearts and they sure as hell aren’t going to give anything for free.
PSN is already free. you pay only for the extra things you want.
I know, but seeing as the argument is that XBL will stay on top as it had more funding, if Sony have a set % of cost from sales which is used specificaly for the PSN, there would be no need for adverts.
With the set % from everything PS envolved (Games,Controllers, DC etc...) plus the income from items people by for home, i think it would be enough to stay up to date, and maintained and actualy make a profit from it?
Im not sure as to how much of a % would have to be taken from sales, and how much would need to be downloaded to cover Sonys cost, but from what i've herd, it costs a hell of a lot for people to download via XBL.
Last time i read, it costs around a million $ to host something that size, to be available to everyone.
I just would'nt be HOME if i can have a Xbox 360 in my apartment then right?
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