Xbox Live users harassed a girl when she identified herself as lesbian. Microsoft then banned her from the service saying other gamers found her sexual orientation "offensive."
Is my computer screwed up or something?? How is this 1000 degrees after it JUST got approved?
When it comes to the degrees on news items, there is a certain aspect of it that is not based on logic, but conjecture...and that's annoying. I guess somebody above thought that this topic was worth 1,000 degrees, which is silly. 12
This site's users obviously care a lot about this subject, a hell of a lot
It's because lesbians are hot.
I guess lesbians get us hot easily
It replaced some other article that either used the wrong source or just offended people for using the "Epic Boobs" picture.
All lesbians please feel free to come to PSN, we will accept you with open arms, as long as you are hot and have a video camera ;)
Kushan is my personal hero of the day.
I liked the picture from other article - http://www.n4g.com/gaming/N... MORE. =)) Anyway, identifying of being a gay or a lesbian is NOT the place in GAMING. =) People should enjoy GAMING, if they want some atention or gay/lesbian friends, they are FREE to look it on the interenet, there are a lot of PLACES for that. WHY involve GAMING? Thank you.
@SonyWarrior: I guess too much porn influence where most lesbians are hot. But honestly I know few bi/lesbian chicks who are actually pretty attractive and I love how they tease guys with their behavior :>. @CrazzyMan: I'm not a big fan of busty chicks but epic boobs made me wow. But going back on topic, I think sexual orientation along with other cultural/religious differences should be taken out of gaming. We should be gamers, not homosexuals, not Muslims, not Christians, neither black nor white. Just play not discriminate.
@SonyWarrior - going by that logic, we should ban ALL dudes from XBL. Well done.
http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/... The homosexual community needs to pick another place to complain, because there really isn't much room here. 12
I'm all for gay rights and there's nothing wrong with being gay. Is XBOX Live really an appropriate outlet to discuss / proclaim your sexuality? Aren't we here to play games? Let's get back to using Live for what it was designed: complaining about how Mom is making you stop before you've finished your mission. ;)
It sucks , might be disgusting even .. But still , what business do you have disclaiming your sexual preference on a game service ??? Who frickin' cares if you're hetero , gay , lesbian on a game ? Why would anyone be advertising that ? If its to meet like minded folks , there are bazillion of chat services ...
A gay person who does something like posting their sexual orientation on Xbox live is not trying to meet like-minded persons. They simply like video games; and while they are at it, they want to make UNlike-minded people comfortable with the idea of being around gay people. They want to de-sensitize you, so-to-speak. Think about it, their are barely any women at all on Xbox Live, there have to be much better places to find lesbians? I think this girl forgot to realize that adolescent boys and very young men have little patience for women who won't give them action whether they are gay or not. Giving them no action (not flirting with them) and then telling them you're gay simply saves them the trouble of having to think of what insult he'll use. She was expecting mature behavior from immature people. That is very difficult to find. But since she was on Xbox live, it is likely that she was just as young as they were.
Xbox live users are bunch of morons. How can someone be offended by knowing someone is gay. And then microsoft banning her for causing offense. The only people causing offense are the pathetic users bullying her, who should be banned themselves and then Microsoft for joining in, causing more offense. You dont pay £40 a year to be harrased.
I think I'm going to make a new GT go online and put I'm a lesbian to see what happens.
Why is this here again? And how did it reach 1000 degrees in 8 minutes? This is not a Hiphopgamer post! Duplicate? http://www.n4g.com/gaming/N... http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/... http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/... N4G mods doing a fine job as usual.
...And then it went down to 140 degrees in just a couple of minutes. Something is not right here. This might explain why Hiphopgamer always gets his news placed at the top. The mods control it.
they take $ for placement. Same things as ads.
In their guidelines it says that news that get a lot of attention from around the internet gather more heat. Their example being "PS4 unveiled". I can see big name sites like IGN, Gamespot and all the others writing about that. But it doesn't make any sense cause no other sites than N4G care for Hiphopgamers fake rumors and he still tops the "heat list" everytime he posts something. There might unfortunately lie some truth in what you are saying, Blademask.
You can't blame xbox live for this. You see... you need to understand how these systems work. Xbox live does not understand what name you pick... it's based on the volume of reports. If while you playing a game online you get 200 report against your name... probably by people that are gay or lesbian that believe that you are mocking them or by parents that may have an opinion and believe that sexual orientation should be left out of their kids consoles... than what do you expect? This has nothing to do with freedom of speech. Just because I have the freedom to say wherever the hell I want... does not mean I can walk into toyRUs and start screaming about blow dolls, condoms and my sexual orientation. There is a time and place for everything... and in an environment with different ages and opinions.. you should keep it free of this kind of things.
Or it just could be that there are alot of a$$holes on Xbox Live who love to cause a ruckus. By what you say, stupid kids on Xbox Live could also team together to make frivolous complaints against another gamer who "owns" them frequently online. "Hey this idiot keeps killing us in COD4, let us The xbot butt-buddie Squad make complaints against him so he'll get booted off and we will own the COD4 race. *initiate evil nerdy genius laugh*
Mr. Negative. By what Bladestar "said", the most a group can do is make you change your gamertag. Cheating and serious threats are the only things that can get you booted off XBL. Communication bans are fairly common though. You Creep.
OMG how did it reach up there in that time
Let me start this comment (since it's obvious it won't be a popular one) by stating that I am straight and always have been. However, whatever sexuality I am, I'm still human. First, this topic is worth every degree. There is an Xbox Live user who is being discriminated against because she chose to proclaim her sexual orientation. That should be no reason for a suspension. I would love to know what happened to "free speech." If she's proud of her lesbianism, then shouldn't she be allowed to show it? Second, I'd like to know what her bio actually said before making an opinion. If it just said "lesbian" then by no means should she be suspended. However, if she proclaims her homosexuality in a lewd manner, then I suppose punishment is due. Third, it's clear that people harassed this person merely because she was gay. They followed her to other games just to harass her. Everyone should be allowed to enjoy their Xbox Live experience if they paid the money for it, and they should not have to be subjected to this kind of harassment. If you side with Microsoft here, then you are condoning ANY person being harassed incessantly for anything. Would you be okay with a black fellow being harassed by some white supremacists until Microsoft suspended him, all because his profile said something about his heritage? God forbid a suspension like this happen to one of you, merely because of who you are. then maybe you won't be so quick to damn this girl for expressing herself.
@BigManFanelli, also straight, and agree very much with what you say, Xbox live is not the best place to proclaim that you are gay(Full of Homophobes), there should not be a public outrage by that online community. It is not like the person is trying to convert anyone but, just make a statement just like most people on xbox-live, and come on people I would say that 95% of the people on live are not martyrs, but as soon as they have a few people ganging up with them, its ok.
While I disagree with Microsoft decision to ban a gamer because of their sexual orientation, as that is blatant discrimination, it is also their job to have some sort of restrictions on what can and can not be done with their service. What they should have done is warned her and asked her to clean up her profile. And let face it if you choose to live a lifestyle that general discusses people then you should be prepared to take the hits that come with it. And if you don't like the abuse then you should change you lifestyle.
"And if you don't like the abuse then you should change you life." You were doing fine until this part...
Ya but I am pretty sure that it is the Live agreement when you first sign up says if you scroll down, not to abuse the service by big #1 on that list harassing other players, and if you start doing that microsoft will ban your account.(Seems that Microsoft has double standards though)
I fully disagree with harassment. We are all human and deserve to be treated equally but not everyone feels that way.
Sexual preference is not a choice. Unless you are a christian fundamentalist. Gay convertors ftw!
wow, there are STILL people who think being gay is a choice!? unless you have been gay before and you "changed" your "choice", how the hell do you know that it is something you have any control over? I am gay and I will tell you there is no choice. I am who I am. Of course I could lie to myself and pretend I have a choice, but that would make me unhappy with life. And as we are tought we should pursue happiness. Why would anyone choose to be part of a demographic that the majority of society considers to be sub-human? Why would anyone choose to get discriminated and receive hate mail? Why would anyone choose to put their job/career at stake for being gay? I have lost a job before, gotten hate mail, and had my car vandalised all because this is the way god made me and I accepted that. I have NEVER had anyone say anything directly to my face about being gay besides the bible thumpers at gay events. I am a very straight acting guy and people would never assume I am gay...as a lot of other gay people are. I just don't understand how someone can come to the conclusion that it is something you can just turn off; unless they have done it themselves. Ontopic: If she just stated that she is a lesbian in her profile, there is nothing wrong with that. If there were graphic details, I could understand a ban. Question: if another user said they were straight on their profile, could they be banned because it offends me? or is it becuase the majority of the people are straight that it makes it OK? A lot of you guys say sexual orientation is a taboo subject in games, but it seems like EVERYTHING else is OK to talk about. There are countless articles on here about SEX in video games, but because it is straight sex it is OK. Look at all the avatars of big booty hoes and phat asses, if there is no place for SEX in games, then please remove them. just stop with the hypocrisy of it all.
Calm Down, Harvey Milk. Jesus H, man.....it seems like anytime the "gay" subject comes up, there is a squad of homos running to defend it. WE GET IT. YOU LIKE BOYS. THE END.
"Why would anyone choose to be part of a demographic that the majority of society considers to be sub-human?" "Why would anyone choose to get discriminated and receive hate mail?" "Why would anyone choose to put their job/career at stake for being gay?" You tell me? I actually have had a homosexual relationship, and I can tell you it was a choice. The idea of sexuality orientation not being "your" choice is a psychological mechanism that culture has created to make people feel excepted, because if I can't help myself then its ok. I am not saying that you can just turn it off either but just like people that have other issues they work through it and learn to control their desires. I am saddened to here that you have lost jobs and been harassed. No one should have to go through that. Nor am I happy to here that "Bible Thumpers" as you call them have made you feel less human. You are a human being and God loves you know matter what lifestyle you choose. God Bless!
Welcome to PSN!!!
im straight but i know gay women,and personally i think that microsoft are probs thinking about all the little kids that own xbox s..wen i go online i dont have hetro in my username,and i have 4 usernames on psn,to me this is a pathetic attempt at gay acceptance,,its like tell the world your gay and see what they say,if u want to advertise or boast ur gay, then have ur sexuality displayed on these sites where its over 18s only minimum,besides who wants there little kid asking[mommy,daddy whats a lesbian......peace out...
... how is something like this more offensive than the audio raping you get from the douchebags with voice chat? What? You scared you gonna get raped over Xbox Live? ... only if you're stupid enough tio set up a play date...
Xbox Live is a SOCIAL gaming service.There's socializing and discussing things that have absolutely nothing to do with gaming,and this is exactly why Xbox Live>PSN in terms of SOCIAL and community gaming.Disagree all you want,but this fact won't change at all. If she wants to let people know she doesn't like Cats,she should be allowed to do so.If she wants to let people know she's a student at Uni,she should be allowed to do so.If she wants to let people know she doesn't believe in God,she should be allowed to do so.And if she wants to let people know she's a Lesbian,she should be allowed to do so. The above information might not be relevant to you,but there ARE PEOPLE that would like to know MORE about a person they're playing with/in a session with.Which is why they choose to read her PROFILE.Don't blame her for putting personal information about herself on her XBL profile. I'm disappointed that the majority of the N4G community would rather side with homophobic gamers on Xbox Live than a gamer who was banned for stating their sexual preference on a SOCIAL gaming service.Really disappointed actually.
I don't think advertising your sexual orientation is needed. Is not like straight people will add straight to their screen name. What you do in bed is personal. Other players don't have to know it.
So homosexual orientation = Ban Screaming racist profanity over the network = Fine Something wrong there...
Stealth trolling as usual? Have you tried reporting them for "harrassment of another player"? But yeah, I'm sure Xbox Live is just full of nazis. I play Gears 2 a lot and I've never encountered any of the annoying kids or nazi generals everyone talks about. Btw, how do you report people on PSN? It's not possible you say? And even if it was and you got banned you could just make a new account and continue harrassing other users.
I play a little Halo, and watch my friends play a little Halo, and they hear racial slurs all the time. So much so that it doesn't even offend them any more. They simply return the insults. It doesn't even affect their game anymore.
"Stealth trolling as usual? " LOL... what?
I bet there are a lot of racist gamers on Live. I'm not trying to deny it. But there are a lot of well mannered and polite gamers as well. What annoys me is that some people try to make it seem like Xbox Live is so full of racists and other lowlife that it's more or less impossible to be on there without being harrassed. Which is far from the truth.
good, she deserves it. gay people are always trying to shove their lifestyle in everyones faces. they should keep it to themselves.
maybe you are just puting your face in the wrong place?
I can't tell if this is sarcasm. I'll just assume it's not. No one deserves to be discriminated against. I'm gay and I've never shoved my sexuality in peoples faces, nor do I wear my sexuality on my sleeve. Every group/culture in society have their month/day/week whatever - we celebrate who we are. If people weren't so ignorant and narrow minded, we wouldnt have to defend who we are against people like you.
Your not really comparing Black History month, Christmas, Hanukkah, or veterans day with sexual preferance are you? Last I seen you could be a gay or lesbian African-American , Christian, veteran or just about anything else hitting the calendar. If your desire is not to be labeled, why label yourself? Why does it matter if you are gay or more importantly why do you feel the need to share your sexual preferance with anyone you don't intend to sleep with? It's not a disease or affliction, why define yourself by it? -Death
Dear Brooklyn, Death just whipped that a$$....but hey, you prolly liked it. Sincerely, P
What happened to the Epic Boobs?
That vanished as well as the stupid 1000 degrees. Looks like there are N4G mods with taste. 12
Funny, an article about politcal correctness, itself is corrected to be politically correct. Bring back the boobs and f*** all the whiners.
I agree that NO people group should be hated for the lifestyle they choose, but what gets on my nerves is that they feel the need to telegraph their sexual preference to the world. That drives me crazy! You don't see me putting "I'm Straight, YAY!" in my gamertag. The only people that need to know one's sexual orientation is family, friends, and their boyfriend/girlfriend. Some people just need to learn what is appropriate information to make public and what is not. I have a dingle-berry turd stuck in my butt-crack hair and I also just swallowed a mucus ball, but do you actually need to know that? PSN: Frodo25
Personally, I think there are simply way too many people out there who get offended. It's like all we do nowadays is point fingers because someone said something you didn't like. I mean honestly, are we really all a bunch of cry babies?
Identifying yourself as a DROID Gets You respect On N4G!
There are three sides to every story. His side Her side and the truth. I'm sure the same applies here.
Just shows what sort of community use this service, putting lesbian on her profile should have had the same reaction as her putting nothing on there, but this is how alot of people view america from the outside(as americans are the largest users of the 360), racist, homophobic, gun ho and a lot of comments on here reflect that.
Main Entry:gung ho Pronunciation:\ˈgəŋ-ˈhō\ Function:adjective Etymology:Gung ho!, motto (interpreted as meaning “work together”) adopted by certain United States marines, from Chinese (Beijing) gōnghé, short for Zhōngguó Gōngyè Hézuò Shè Chinese Industrial Cooperative Society That's kind of a compliment and doesn't really fit when trying to generalize an entire nation of people as not only the same, but in a negative way. I completely agree and understand where you are coming from. Everyone knows the Brits have bad teeth and the French are all cowards. All Americans are homophobic racists. This is all common knowledge. -Death
What a ridiculous move. Someone should test the waters and put straight in their bio, see if they get banned. I have a feeling it won't really work as advertised. And even then, it's still stupid. If she was lewd in her bio, of course she should be banned. But to hit ctrl+f "lesbian" and drop the hammer then? If that's what really happened, that's what we call discrimination, kids. Good job MS.
come on over to the psn all r welcome.
Come join the adults.
You should be able to say whatever you want wherever you want, as long as it's not offensive. Now, declairing yourself a lesbian is not offensive(except to religious fanatics who think gay people are immoral). Grow up people, let others be whoever they want to be.
I think you missed my point, or maybe I just didn't communicate it well. I clearly stated above, I do not define myself by my sexuality. It's ONLY when people call other cultures/groups out do we need to defend ourself. I'm not comparing the days, i'm comparing what it means to be able to have the right to be proud of who you are, regardless of color or sexuality. I NEVER said i share my sexuality with everyone. I mean, why would you even say that? I don't walk around work with a f*ckin rainbow flag. Re-read my post and then chill the f*ck out.
"No one deserves to be discriminated against. I'm gay and I've never shoved my sexuality in peoples faces, nor do I wear my sexuality on my sleeve. Every group/culture in society have their month/day/week whatever - we celebrate who we are." I agree 100% that no one deserves to be discriminated against. You claim to not define yourself by your sexuality yet you also claim to "celebrate" being who you are. Do you not see the contradiction there? You are not only defining yourself by your sexuality, you are also seperating yourself from the rest of the world by making the distinction that you are different then everyone else. You like members of the same sex. Big whoop, have a cookin and sit down. You are not special, you don't have anything to celebrate. You like sex like everyone else in the human race. Who you choose to have it with is your preferance and not anything to be ashamed about. For that matter, it isn't anyone elses business. You and I have both been around long enough to know that the reality is there is bigotry in the world. Homosexuality is not something that sits well with everyone. It is what it is. If someone is bashing you for any reason over Live, defend yourself with the tools available and report them. The reason sexuality of any kind is not tolerated on Xbox Live is simply because it is a topic that illicits negative responses. To try and prevent issues, topics like this are not permitted. -Death