Killzone 2 will certainly be an excellent game but will it be be popular enough to drive gamers to buy Playstation 3s?
If Marketed right,yes.
after my xbox died on me for the 2nd time I thought it was time to get a PS3 Was'nt a hard decision Killzone 2 was only a month away Never looked back since
so serious question: "Has anyone seen a KZ2 ad on television?" If so, when, during what show and on what network? I'm not being smarmy, I love my PS3 and I genuinely want to know if it is getting prime-time coverage (there's a lot of trigger-finger 'disagreers' out there :) ). I really hope that they market this beast of a game, it should move systems, but people need to know that it exists. @ below. Cool! Thanks for the feedback fellahs. Really glad to hear that it's airing in North America on demographically suited channels (no sense airing it on the Oxygen network :) ).
I saw a small add announcing its coming a couple of days ago on ITV in the UK. Only seen it once, but I did see it!
When people start playing Killzone2 MP at their friends houses, it is gonna cause alot of people to REALLY want this game, cause people are gonna be talking about it, I can guarantee you that. People loved COD4 MP, I can`t think of any reason why they would like Killzone2s MP. My point, MP is what`s gonna sell this game.
I live in Texas, and I've seen the Killzone 2 ad on Spike, G4, Comedy Central, Cartoon Network (during Adult Swim), Fox, and NBC. In the last week, in fact, I've seen the "bullet" ad 11 times.
I haven't seen the Killzone ad but I seen the FEAR ad 2x about a week ago.
I`ve saw the Killzone2 ad about 5 times last week. And I don`t watch much TV. Sony definitely marketing this better than other games.
"Has anyone seen a KZ2 ad on television?" Yep, I've seen the Killzone 2 commercial (I live in NC). I saw it last night on Comedy Central. I haven't seen it as many times as rhood022, but I've seen it a few times. Considering the amount of times that rhood022 has seen it, Sony is definantly getting the Killzone name out.
A certain Crab bought one for this game....that's earth-shatteringly good 8)
Definitely, in worldwide scale.
maybe alittle, who knows, i have yet to see an ad of any type even in game stop
Based on the lack of an intense marketing push, I think that even Sony realizes that KZ2 is not going to be a system seller. It's an M-rated, hardcore shooter, and that genre does not appeal to enough people who still have not upgraded their gaming console. KZ2's target audience is hardcore gamers who have been with PS3 since the beginning, and can appreciate it's nuances. It's pretty obvious that Sony is positioning God of War III as it's biggest system seller. GOW3 is over a year away, and Sony is already pushing it heavily. Plus, it's an established franchise, and platformers appeal to more people than shooters.
except for the innovation part look at ME figures and you will see why innovation usually come with the risk of accepting the game play.
yes, this game will be the critical point to buy the ps3, after all shooter is and always will be the system seller, especially if it's have humongous graphic like Killzone 2
I think people that only own a PS3 and no other console are not looking to pick up one of the other two if they haven't by now. People that only own a 360 or a Wii are, however, waiting for a reason to get a PS3. And when they walk into Gamestop, Walmart, or wherever and see the beauty that is Killzone 2, I think they'll pick up a PS3.
Every game ever made has some potential to sell a console to someone if they really wanted to play it. Killzone 2 has just as good of a chance as any game to be the reason someone buys a PS3 to play it.
I have a friend who is buying a PS3 for this game, so I guess that makes it a system seller.
everyone that i know has preordered one and they talk about it all the time. sometimes a direct referral from a friend or someone you know is the best way to sell or buy a new game console and killzone 2 is doing just that. with the help of good advertisements, hopefully it will catapult the ps3 to second spot by this year. to add to this with the engine they have created on killzone 2 that can now be accessed by 1st, 2nd and third party developers, it will be one of those reasons why people will buy a ps3.
It could be a system seller. Generally a System Seller is a game that has a previous record of selling alot of games like Halo, GTA MGS and GT. Seeing as Killzone 1 and Liberation where not system sellers, makes it hard to gauge. Gamespot has announced they will be holding a midnight release which is huge. Other games to have midnight releases: Halo 3, Gears 2, Super Smash Brothers and Madden. Regardless it will be a huge edition to Sony's library. Edit @ Below I was at Gamestop at lunch today and they had a flier for it on their counter. My buddy found out about it too from his brother who works at gamestop and he asked if I wanted to go with them. I live in the Atlanta area, don't know if anyone else can confirm this.
It might suprise considering the hype, but considering I have not heard of any really midnight openings within the week of the release it might not be. In addition, this just reported today: http://www.n4g.com/industry... GameStop might not hold their midnight openings after all. Sorry to piss on the parade, but I might have to run to Walmart 24-hour store to get mine at midnight. I also just got my RealTriggers for the PS3 controller. Oh my, the snap on triggers that prevents your finger from slipping and accidentally firing. It makes if fugly. See it here: http://www.youtube.com/watc... I got it for $5 from amazon.com with my KZ2 order, but I saw it the other day at GameCrazy for $5. A little pricey for a piece of plastic, but well worth it. I'm getting two more as a backup! By the way, the guy in the youtube video got the same TV and speakers (probably stereo to since it came as a bundle). Not that it matters.
an ad on tv? i'm playing the game on my tv! oh yea oh yea, so intense!!
"If marketed right, yes." If taken on its merits as a game, no. That kind of philosophy is what most people criticize Halo 3 for. It was promoted like crazy. And guess what... it was still a great game for anyone who wasn't dead set against liking it. In my opinion.... that's MY opinion, not yours or anyone else... Killzone 2 doesn't live up to those expectations the way Halo 3 did.
Saw it on Discovery Channel and Comedy Central during Colbert Report in the morning.
@chris i saw 4-5 last night on channel USA during monday night RAW.
I bought a PS3 last year for Heavy Rain and Killzone 2 so meh, i guess so. Although I could have waiting but i liked the 80GB MGS4 bundle.
Is killzone 2 a media strongpoint that is keeping every little bloggy website alive and well?... yes...definitely...
Though the american media of magazines and websites would sure hope not.
It will probably draw some 360 and PC shooter fans towards the PS3. But since the FPS genre isn't mainstream anymore, it probably won't make a huge impact.
"shooter genre isn't mainstream anymore" Whaaaaa....?
Not like it used to be 3-4 years ago. Many of these FPS games are "been there, done that"
I'm going to go ahead and disagree... the highest selling exclusive game of this generation is a first person shooter (excluding any pack-in Bs with the Wii)...one of the highest selling multiplatform titles of this generation (CoD 4) is a first person shooter...and a single first person shooter is currently getting ALL the attention... killzone 2 was the number 1 game on GameTrailers for all of january 2009, and a lot of february...not their pick, but on what people where tracking and watching... while 2008 didn't really see any groundbreaking shooters, that hardly means the genre isn't main stream...its definitely one of the most saturated currently; possibly why you would say its all 'been there, done that' lately...but of all the gaming genre's, there is very little evidence that the first person shooter isn't the most popular overall... and believe me...with killzone 2 and modern warfare 2 coming out in 2009...there is no chance for any other gaming genre's to win in terms of popularity...these 2 games will trash everything else with media attention, sales, and hype... that is of course assuming GT5 doesn't make it this year...that is an entirely different behemoth, but there is little evidence of it making a 2009 release currently...
what's mainstream then? rts? please...
i hope so with all the effort put in this game... it better or sonys gonna be kinda screwed
But I believe Grand Tourismo and God of War will be. Grand Tourismo 5 in a bundle and a price cut, the PS3 will sell faster then anything else.
I think that KZ2 will definantly sell some PS3's, maybe not a TON of PS3's, but after it comes out, I think it will help PS3 sales stay around 250K or higher in the U.S. until a price drop. Even on the Official Killzone forums the other day, there was one guy that was a 360 owner and said that he will be buying a PS3 for Killzone 2, and there's been several other 360 fans on this site that have done the same. Even though I'm a huge God of War fan, I'm not really sure about God of War 3 being a system seller right now, but I do agree that Gran Turismo 5 will push PS3 sales like never before, especially in Europe.
yes its a system seller.. and it will help PS3 sales even months after release, because this game has a great Hype and quality in the same time and another reason is that PS3 line-up is growing with mega-hits like Killzone,LBP,MGS4... and in 2009 we will see more hits .. the only thing PS3 needs is a smart and decent marketing..
I think Killzone 2 will be somewhat of a system seller, but I would feel more confident about it being a system seller for sure if the PS3 was $299. Either way, I think that Killzone 2 is the game that will finally make people that have been on the fence for a PS3 to finally get one. Even at $499 last year in June, the Metal Gear Solid 4 bundles were flying off shelves, and to me Killzone 2 has that same potential. I know that Metal Gear is a larger franchise, but pretty much every one that's a gamer and goes Online to these gaming sites knows about KZ2, and Killzone 2 has been one of the most talked about PS3 exclusives to date.
It used to be, before video games were mainstream, that exclusives weren't weighed as heavily as they are. People never talked about whether Uni-racers was going to move Super Nintendo's or whether Toe Jam and Earl was going to move the genesis. With the price tag going up every year on console/game development however, these game releases are imperitive to the overall success of the 3 gaming giants. System sellers correlate directly to market awareness. Whether or not Killzone 2 sells systems will be up to word of mouth and how well Sony markets its product. I didn't find Halo 3 to be a particularly great game but Microsoft did an excellent job marketing it and making the general public aware of its release. With some individuals I knew, it became a scenario where they HAD to have the game because it was the next new thing that everyone else was getting into. I think that the graphics of Killzone 2 will carry it quite a ways but ultimately the internet hype fire will have to catch the surrounding non-hardcore masses for it to become the phenomenon that Sony hopes it will be.
Yes. Countless bots have begun lining up at the city dump with xbox in hand. Killzone 2 is a glorious victory for us PlayStation faithful. Bubble me brothers so that I may continue to spread the message.
i've had 2 ppl say they gave me bubbles for something but i always stay at 5
this game will be played for years. in america people got thier income tax checks incoming. thats millions of bored x-bums who are ready to move on from the 360. i wish sony would give 1 reoccuring commercial that shows that psn online really works.
Well we'll see come Feb NPD If it doesnt sell well, Sony is in real trouble especially when they themselves said its platform mover
The game is releasing on the second to last day of February, so I doubt February NPD will look any different from January. March sales figures will probably be huge though, since March begins this weekend.
So you're going to base Killzone's impact on the PS3 by 2 full days worth of sales? Just because the NPD releases around the 12th of every month, doesn't mean that sales are counted up to then.
"Well we'll see come Feb NPD If it doesnt sell well, Sony is in real trouble especially when they themselves said its platform mover " I don't think that Killzone 2's impact will really be seen until March, and Amercia's NPD isn't the only country that means anything when it comes to sales because I'm just as interested in seeing how those Killzone 2 Bundles in Europe will do. But, either way, I won't be worrying myself over sales figures.
Considering the majority of sales and usually first day sales Feb NPD will be a very good indication to how well the game has done in the US As for Hardware sales March might be a better indication but with Halo Wars and RE5 360 bundle coming the PS3 might have a hard time passing the 360
I bought a ps3 only for Metal Gear Solid 4 and Killzone 2!! So yes... I do have other games, but the reason I bought a ps3 was because of these 2 games...
PS brand is not known to sell big blockbuster shooters...again where is the marketing?, I have yet to seea commercial in the US. It will push some consoles though, we'll see in the end of march numbers.
Have done very well on the system. But 360 is seen as the premiere destination for FPS titles (and rightly so). The big question is whether Killzone 2 is big enough for 360 and PC FPS fans to buy a PS3. Sony's been trying hard to take over Microsoft's dominance in that genre, so the results should be interesting.
Resistance did well, I think because it was a launch game but nobody agrees with me, which is fine. Looking at Resistance 2 numbers tells me what I wanna know. Yes the 360 have always been criticize for too much shooters and rightfully so the numbers do not lie about the sales of shooters on the 360. It is what it is. Halo, sorta stigmatized the Xbox brand. Sony never been about Big shooters looking at history, hey just look at PS2, what big shooter was there? Like I said, this will move consoles but not the same fashion as Xbox 360. Not becasue the game is bad but just what I just stated above. we'll see right.
well killzone 2 will stand toe to toe with any first person shooter in terms of quality...so I think the 'PS3 not being the home of top tier shooters' will definitely change with just this game alone... the PS3 DOES NOT have a PS2 demographic right now though...most of the owners seem to be a core audience that would get into a game like killzone 2...that does nothing for system sales with killzone 2, as they already own the system... in either case...not much will happen at the current price...period...killzone 2, with its insanely deep shipped MP, and plans of a burnout paradise like approach to DLC (tons overall, some free...some not)...could give killzone 2 some impressive legs into this summer...when the price does come down, killzone 2 will still stand as the console shooter to get currently...and could swing a lot of buyers towards the PS3... I am predicting pretty impressive sales of killzone 2 as a game...but just a small bump to system sales throughout march...the price is still too high for anything to happen...if Sony manages to make a US cut in time for tax refunds in April'ish...i think a PS3 would be hard to find at retailers for the month...and a cut in Europe wouldn't hurt either (although I have no idea what kind of tax things happen over there this time of year)... it does have over 3 million pre-orders currently...so that almost guarantees impressive launch window sales...putting it in line to top MGS4's release for the first few weeks...but we'll see I guess... the chances of PS3 sales approaching 1 million or something crazy like that will NOT happen though...the rumored cuts to the price did not come with the release of the game...so that part is over...and the ad campaign for killzone 2 is impressive by sony's recent endeavours...still isn't reaching anyone new...most people seeing these things already knew about the game to begin with...
"Killzone 2 is the 3rd in the series", LOL!!!!!! Wouldn't it be KZ3 if it was the 3rd????? anyways it may move few but can't really seeing it moving any substantial amount of systems,but the combined 09 exclusive line-up should move many systems.
It IS the third in the series: 1. Killzone 2. Killzone: Liberation (PSP) 3. Killzone 2
You already think it's going to be.. the best FPS ever, sell 10mil in first week and now you think it's going to sell millions of consoles? Don't kid yourselves.
I am sure it will move a few systems. We will not know untile it releases in NA/UK. I think the Killzone 2 bundles would have done great in the states. So you really never know until it is released.
Isn't that what we are waiting to find out?
One way to find out... Wait until the game comes out and NPD numbers.. Sadly you can't trust Sony and their fanboys claims... why? because if you look at the history of every high profile game this was the very exact claim. The same happened with Resistance 1, Heavenly sword, Metal Gear, LBP, Haze, Lair, and the list goes on and on... Will it sell more than Halo 3(which came out when the xbox 360 had a way lower intallbase than the PS3)? More than Gears 1 and 2? Let's see... it would be hilarious if Halo Wars beat Kill Zone 2 in terms of sales.. that would be the ultimate embarrassment for sony and something to keep in mind by 3rd party developers. I mean, Halo wars it will probably become the best selling RTS game on consoles no matter what... but beating a game most people purchase a PS3 for... would be a bad sign... specially an RTS!
it won't move more ps3's than whats selling now. not many people are interested in KZ2 other than the fanboys on this and other sony sites. just more wishful thinking on the part of sonyfanboys. if LBP,R2,SOCOM,UNCHARTED,WARHARK ,HOME,MGS4 didn't do it. what makes people think this game will. next we will hear that infamous and GoW3 will move systems. well maybe GoW3
IF that happened that would be a disgrace, but it won't. 1.1 million pre-orders in Europe alone a week or two ago- that number has surely risen, plus there is also the rest of the world to think about.
I still don't see how being the first shooter to have cover entirely in first person, having classes whose abilities can be mixed with each other to make a whole lot of customization options, having dynamically changing mission objectives as well as weigthed and more real-life controls and a great take on SixAxis motion controls isn't innovative but instead generic and expected. I guess every shooter henceforth has to completely revolutionize the genre to be innovative, but I think that's just for Killzone 2. Halo: ODST can continue doing what the series has done since the first installment, except with a more vulnerable character and in a less linear environment, it will still be innovative and lift the genre in the eyes of many gaming "journalists".
three of my friends bought PS3s just for this game. So yes, KZ2 is definitely a system seller.
If Marketed correctly yes, If marketed how SONY has done everything for the PS3 thus far,(one commercial for about a month, then silence) Then... NO
it was a system seller for ME!
Some of my friends are buying a ps3 for this game
what makes you think kz2 will?