Is the Ensemble Studios swan song a perfect match or a cash-in?
Pretty good score
Some people think 8.4 = fail for some reason.
Some people, once the hype train is at full steam, can't settle for less than a 10 from all sources. Even a 9 can set someone off - just look at KZ2.
If so, then which is being sarcastic.
Hahahaha nice avatar! Kinda looks like Gabe Newell ate too much and is about to burst muffins from his eyes.
That or he ran out of muffins
good score...I really did enjoy the demo which was a surprise to me , bcuz im not a RTS fan at all....overall ppl should buy this game if they also enjoyed the demo....job well done Ensemble
I'm mostly sarcastic in the open zone, mostly...
both the killzone 2 and halo wars reviews seemed spot on imo...at least based on not playing...just meaning what they pointed out as pro's and con's seems to be well grounded, and the score justified... I was interested to see how Ensemble handled the control...and rather than a completely groundbreaking control tree, which many expected...they simply kept everything dialed way down (max units, tech trees, overall scale and map size)...which is fine, as it will never overwhelm the player...but to any PC RTS fan, console RTS games haven't really moved forward from this...to here this review say 'anyone that has played Starcraft...' is not exciting news for this genre imo... I'm more surprised that there are not more RTS games on consoles this generation that simply support keyboards...MS would most likely make an 'official' keyboard for the 360 (for like $400), that would work with the system...and would work with RTS games...and the PS3 already supports that stuff anyway...universally...its just up to developers to use it... Starcraft 2...I guarantee...would sell 3-4 million units MORE if it was available on consoles...it will already be a huge blockbuster, despite the very goofy installment agenda they are pushing...but there is no question that if it had a direct port to consoles with full mouse and keyboard support, that it would sell much better...
8.4/10 is a massive flop. You can't enjoy games that get rated 8.4 It's impossible.
THIS GAME FAILZZZ SO HAARD!!! M UAHAHAHAH! :)F_+}
It's we'll above average so a good score, better than i thought it would be. I still strongly believe RTS does no belong on to a console, but i hope it breaks new ground and brings RTS to Xbox owners.
From the review, until the 360 gets mouse and keyboard support, Halo Wars isn't going to bring RTS vets over. If anything it sounds like it'll piss them off.
im assuming they never meant to bring "Vets" of rts from pc to console.... considering most people who are vets have their functions hot keyd etc.... hence they do not use the normal tasks and probably are not the target... I see this game set for console gamers and casual gamers.... nowhere near directed directly to the pc crowd.
godmar...totally agree... its another step into the consoel market for this genre...but doesn't really do anything that hasn't been done on consoles already...and probably will not be until consoles ship with a mouse and keyboard (next generation consoles may do this, as they will push to be a full blown PC in a lot more ways than they are this generation)... I wasn't really hyped for the game anyway...but I was somewhat anticipating the possibility of Halo wars being the Halo of console RTS games...meaning...there was the potential that this could have been the threshold where a developer finally figured out how to get a big RTS controllable by a console controller... the reality was the opposite...its a very small RTS in every way, controllable only by a controller...which will do nothing to strengthen the genre on consoles... Halo as a first person shooter did what I am talking about...it sort of unanimously told the industry that a first person shooter, at that point still regarded as impossible, could be great on a console...goldeneye did it too, but only a completely one off controller that other consoles did not, and would never, have... I was hoping the same thing would have come out of halo wars...and it didn't...still a great game, worth owning for fans of the franchise or small scale rts...but not for 'vets', as you put it...
Then what's the point of bringing in "casuals" who are only going to learn how shallow the game is, how poor a platform a console is for it, as/if they pick up a love for the genera? How does MS defend against the accusation that they're only milking the franchise? If the game does do honestly well building the rep for RTSs on the 360, now with Ensemble closed how is MS going to capitalize and further develop such a foundation?
RTSs have sort of died down a bit recently. I think apart from Dawn of War II and whatever abomination EA is calling C&C these days, there's not been a lot to perk my interest in the last 12 months. Starcraft 2 is about the only other one I know of this year that's vaguely interesting me. I'm hoping Halo Wars will bring some new fans to the genre, enough to get it kicking again.
You MUST play World in Conflict.
Or maybe try any of the Total War games.
Good score. Can't say I agree with everything the guy says: but it sounds good to me.
that emsemble was closed down. so no update, dcl, nothing new will be added which stinks. i dont have a xbox just saying.
But what are the chances there will be Covenant or Flood campaigns? And why not include a map editing option?
Former Ensemble employees created a new studio called Robot Entertainment which will be supporting the game. So no problems. That reviewer should do his homework better.
Rek' is right. http://arstechnica.com/gami...
"i dont have a xbox just saying." -yeah who would have guessed that? sdf should update their news from time to time, ya know. j/k bro I had a few beers and well you know. JOY
I noticed him make the DLC flub as well. These game journalist should be more in tune with there profession.
nice review. :D
I guess GT never played a real RTS
Like how they complain about the game lacking depth in comparison to other RTS's, and how it sacrifices this for the sake of accessability? It's not like you could fit Empire: Total War onto your little consoles.
He seemed a bit meh about the whole review and then gave it a 8.4 I was expecting more a 7.5 from the way he was talking. Basically said that it's a pretty good rts for consoles but lacks depth. Guess that was my main problem with the demo. Having played games like World in Conflict, Company of Heroes and was participating in the DoW2 beta i just felt halo wars was a bit boring. Good for new fans to rts but not so much for ppl that have been playing rts for years. This was why i was so surprised they gave DoW2 a lower score but the review was alot more possitive. Ah well i'm loving DoW2 so what does it matter :D
I`m a RTS fan, I`ll have a copy day 1-
they gave a great rts game a score of 8.3 - Dawn of War 2 this sh!tty excuse for a rts game got (even though it was only a .1 higher score) a higher score? common the halo name just sticks there and they already gave it a score it didn't deserve :P even the whole review didn't reflect the score
They gave it a worthy score, most things they did not like I actually enjoy in a RTS, this coming from someone who has played all C&C's and Starcraft. I have never liked to micro manage resource management more than just getting to the action! They did fail to mention in the review the other ways to select units as well. For a game they say does not have much depth you would think they could get the unit selection controls down pretty easy.
so this means that civilization is the king of console rts? 8.4 for halo wars sounds like a good score... sounds fun but i'm disappointed about hearing about the small scale
I played the demo 15mins and was bored out of my brains. I used to love RTS games when I was younger, was a big C&C and Red Alert fan, now they just bore me.
HAHA HALO WARS IS A FLOP ONLY A 82 ON METACRITIC HAHA FLOP!!!! WHILE KILLZONE HAS A 92 KICKING ASS AND KILLING HALO WARS, NOT EVEN MASTER QUEER CAN HANDLE THE HELGHAST!!!
Halo Wars is a great RTS and the best on a Console so far. Oh and HALO 3 KICKS KILLZONE 2 ASS AND HAS FOUR PLAYER CO-OP, SO SUCK IT DOWN PS3 DROIDS!
RTS games are poo !! Keep them on PC I say. And to all the PC nerds coming on slagging consoles, get a life. I am a games player, in that I spend most of my spare time playing console games, I spend a large chunk of my wage on them. I always buy new consoles day 1, have for over 25 years. PC's are not suited to games, the are a pain in the ass, installing, using ridiculous configurations to control your character etc... Most people think it, just wont say it. I dont class PC "gamers" as ligitimate gamers. They always come out of the woodwork in graphics comparisons saying " well, the PC version is the ultimate version". Yeah, if you spend £3000 on a PC !!! By the way, K I L L Z O N E 2 is not coming to PC, it is however, coming to my house tomorrow !!!
flop wars, not even a 9 eh.
it certainly does not look four years of work poured in, moron.
Ouch. Not a bad score. Just not a great score. Maybe Racepro will score better. I mean....Star Ocean.
This game seems more like a 7.0 rather then an 8.4 not a game I will be getting. sheesh!
Since when was a 8 a bad score? Lol if that's true R2 is flops of the PS3.
whataloada XBOLLOX! 3 more days until killzone 2
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