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Are demos bad for the industry and developers?

whoelse from PS3Attitude.com:
"Game Demos have been part of the industry for as long as we can remember and offer gamers the chance to try out a game without taking any money from their pockets.

However we ask ourselves, are demos actually bad for the industry and developers?"

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butterfinger5542d ago

I could see demos being bad if they are based off of a pretty early build of the game (MotorStorm:PR initial demo), or if a much anticipated game's demo isn't what fans were hoping for (many people with the RE5 demo). Most of the time big-name releases don't see demos for the risk of it not living up to the hype (no pre-launch demo for Gears 2, MGS4, Fable 2, LBP, or Resistance 2). I do think demos are great for certain games, however, as sometimes a demo (especially for new IP) will make you want to buy the game (Mirror's Edge's demo got a couple of my friends on board). At least demos are always good for gamers:)

himdeel5542d ago (Edited 5542d ago )

I also think that when company's do offer demos they should be fairly recent/newer builds of a game. It should ALWAYS offer a good quality, stable taste of what a full build of a game can offer.

A company should never offer an extremely old build of a game as a demo that is super glitchy and frustrating to play ONLY to counter with, "It's just the demo...", knowing full well the finished product is equally as bad.

I think the Killzone 2 demo is an example of an old build demo that is good quality. Also Mirrors Edge demo was a good quality that I believe was an older build demo. The first Motorstorm:PR demo wasn't so good quality imo and I believe was an older build. The Dead Space demo although it came later was a good quality demo but I'm not certain of the time of the build.

Trollimite5542d ago

any one who played the iron man demo knows this. i was going to buy the game because th movie was so awesome then a played the demo and it was the worst thing ever

on the other hand the afro samurai demo that came out yesterday made me go to a 24 hour walmart to pick it up

i guess its a double edge sword

BigPappaPump5542d ago

You took the word right out of my mouth.

himdeel5542d ago (Edited 5542d ago )

...I enjoyed the demo much more than I thought I would. I'd consider buying it at a discounted price. The presentation of the game drew me in completely. It's pure fan service.

I just wondered if there was more weight added to the great katana swings in the full version. There was no rumble for his attack actions, movement or when feedback when you're hit by an enemy.

NaiNaiNai5542d ago

works both way, im a big ace combat fan, so i thought i would like HAWX, but after playing with it i decided not to get it, T_T after 6 months of waiting. but ninja blade that was completely off my radar poped up on the japan downlaods got it, and i now have a new game on my list.
-nai-

pixelsword5542d ago (Edited 5542d ago )

-If you think a demo is bad for you, then make a great game, period.

-A demo counters critic and console bias; according to some Killzone 2 reviews, K2 doesn't look better than Gears 2... which is a flat-out lie. I've seen/played both games, and I now know that K2 look better than GeOW 2, but you can't convince people with a bias; luckily I don't have to because I can see for myself and tell others to do so. Overall, Killzone 2 does indeed beat Crysis in terms of quality, action, and things onscreen in the game. sure, Crysis blows away every game in terms of raw power and demos, but the sum does not equal the whole for Crysis as a game.

- I take demos over reviews. If there's a demo out showing a proper sample of abilities of the game, the reviews take a back seat. Rarely can you not get the grasp of what's going on in a demo.

- Bad demos often equal no sale because it represents the game as-is; and if not, then make sure it does. Motorstorm 2's first demo got the thumbs-down from me, but the second demo they put out convinced me to buy the game.

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro47d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7247d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_47d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga47d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2347d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200047d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin47d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole47d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix47d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198947d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198947d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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20 Years of Guerrilla: The Story of a PlayStation Studio

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SullysCigar351d ago

Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.

1Victor351d ago

Can’t wait for their next franchise

SullysCigar351d ago

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

jznrpg351d ago

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

badz149351d ago

I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.

man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!

Vengeance1138351d ago

32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III

Shane Kim351d ago

That's kind of a huge drop though. It's only been two games.

VersusDMC351d ago

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

Vengeance1138351d ago

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

solideagle351d ago

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

Phoenix76351d ago

@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years

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REDGUM351d ago

Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself

thesoftware730351d ago (Edited 351d ago )

Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.

I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.

blacktiger351d ago

thank you fps lover, I'm with you

talocaca351d ago

Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.

The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.

OzzY-waZZy351d ago (Edited 351d ago )

Kinda wish they move on from Horizon tbh.

potatoseal351d ago

They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.

Imalwaysright351d ago

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

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How Burnout Paradise bucked the trend and made open-world racing irresistible

Met with derision from existing Burnout-series fans at the time, Burnout Paradise remains arguably the greatest open-world racing game of all time. Here's why.

SullysCigar352d ago

I don't know why - and I know I'm probably on my own here - but I liked Takedown more. I think it was just 'different' enough to feel fresh. I also loved the destruction.

On that note, a new Motorstorm would be nice! All that mud, dust and car pieces flying everywhere blew my mind on PS3 - imagine what they could do now.

NJShadow352d ago

I loved Burnout Paradise, but Burnout 3: Takedown will always be the best game in the series, for me. Burnout 3 is arguably the most fun game ever made, with the greatest licensed soundtrack ever.

EazyC352d ago

I played through the remaster quite recently. It's not as good as I remember, but I think a lot of that is because the "open world" thing was still pretty fresh back then.

I do think there's a gap in the market for a game like Burnout. With the new gen they could really make car damage a huge selling point again.

BrainSyphoned352d ago

Paradise gave me open world burnout before I knew it was a thing.

CPTN MITCHELL352d ago

Burnout paradise remastered and original are my favorite, i got the platinum trophy for both games the nighthawk is my favorite car

Einhander1971352d ago

Personally don't give a shit for open world racers. Give me a new Motorstorm, Split second, Outrun.

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