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Can Microsoft continue to buy it's way to victory?

It is no doubt that Microsoft, the creators of the Xbox 360, have put a lot of money into beating sony. With a major price drop on the 360, buying exclusive content, and even paying other developers of sony exclusives to bring their game to the console. While this strategy has worked very well so far, how long can it continue? How long can Microsoft continue to buy it's way to victory?

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JhawkFootball063500d ago (Edited 3500d ago )

There not buying its way. Microsoft cannot pay 28 million people to buy their console. If they did, I would ask where was my pay?

EDIT:
If you are critisizing my post, then I will critisize the title. If my response had nothing to do with the title then the title itself is wrong.

jidery3500d ago

U fail

Read the article, don't make a comment based on the title, make it based on the article.

hippo243500d ago

Hmmm....Id like to point out that you are indeed off your rocker Mr.Jhawk

JhawkFootball063500d ago

off my rocker? i dont get it...

JokesOnYou3500d ago (Edited 3500d ago )

"...and even paying other developers of sony exclusives to bring their game to the console."

-Tell me what game micro bought from sony?...I follow gaming news just a bit but somehow I missed the deal between sony and micro to bring a IP owned by sony to the 360.

If paying independent devs for content that your current owners and potential customers would like to play is now labled as "buying a victory"...then arrest sony first and then go get those evil micro folks. lolz

Furthermore whats the difference between buying an independent studio, making them 1st or 2nd party vs buying individual exclusive games from 3rd party studio's....who thinks Bill or Ken are in the basement tinkering on their laptops creating games?...both companies are "buying" smart peoples talent, its just a question of do you want to pay their light bill or do you want to own the lights. Both of which has its pro's & cons.

JOY

cyclindk3500d ago

Spending 3 billion on extended warranties is pretty much paying for the millions of broken consoles and their owners (remember, most owners experience more than one broken console so the 60 percent failure rate wouldn't mean approximately 15 million people had broken consoles, only that 15 million consoles broke and of course this is only a percentage and not an actual number).

TheDude2dot03500d ago

Way to take the article literally. You are teh def of funnay.

Godmars2903500d ago

Yeah, the author certainly could have said it better, but the fact is we're seeing SO4 on the 360 in hopes to sell the console in Japan and not on the PS3 which had 3 times the install base before the game was announced. In what feels like an 11th hour moment.

JokesOnYou3500d ago (Edited 3500d ago )

OK, micro is a business, same as sony, neither of them love you their only concern is to get games on their console= profits and they are not concerned about "loyal owners" of the competitions feelings. Why would they?

So basicly Japanese gamers who are interested in SO4 have to buy a 360 NOW if you don't already own one or wait patiently hoping it comes to the ps3....which is very likely sometime down the road, but thats how the game works. Isn't the whole point of exclusives to make your console more desirable to the end user?= Japanese gamers who want to play SO4 when its released.

Either way if you OWN a 360 and you care about SO4 you can play it soon, if you don't own a 360 and you hate micro for this 11 hour strategy, who cares you are not a customer and if you have that much brand loyalty its not like they are losing a customer.

JOY

JD_Shadow3500d ago

"-Tell me what game micro bought from sony?"

Ahem...does the acronym "GTA4" ring a bell?

PimpDaddy3500d ago

Get a clue please. Grand Theft Auto is an IP devloped by Rockstar Games and published by Take Two Interactive. It wasnt owned by Sony. In fact last generation sever of the GTA games came out on the original Xbox too.

Nobody stole anything. Did any of you guys complain when Square decided to make Final Fantasy 7 for the Playstation instead of the N64? Because up to that point Final Fantasy wasMetal Gear started on the NES too?

Give me a break. It's called competition. How do you think Sony aquired all of it's first and second party developers? Oh thats right they purchased the developer or negotiated exclusive rights to publish the games.

Danja3500d ago (Edited 3500d ago )

when was GTA a PS2 exclusive ? if im not mistaken it was only a timed exclusive as they were also on the Xbox and PC...

DMC 1 & 2 were PS2 exclusive DMC3 wasn't as it was on the PC also

MGS games were also made for the Xbox and Gamecube

RE was also available on the Gamecube

here was FF game on the Gamecube also..

"SO4 , Ace Combat , Tekken 6 , Beautiful Katamari " are the only once PS exclusive games I can think of that went over to a MS console... maybe M$ paid for those who knows

CrazedFiend3500d ago (Edited 3500d ago )

Microsoft never bought ANYTHING directly from Sony. But they have put down MASSIVE amounts of money to move Sony's top IP's AWAY from Sony and ONTO the 360. Case in point, GTA. Sure it wasn't owned by Sony, and maybe not a Sony exclusive, but when most people thought GTA, they thought of the Playstation, not XBox. Microsoft put down A LOT of money to make sure that was no longer the case. Same with DMC, same with FF, same with RE and Star Ocean and I'm sure a few others. Call it a hunch, but I'm pretty sure that's what he was getting at in this article. To argue that Microsoft hasn't been playing the money hand to get a one up on Sony would just be stupid.

OF COURSE Microsoft has the right to do this because business is business and is not to say that they are the only ones to have done so. All the author is asking, which I think is a PERFECTLY valid question is with Microsoft shelling out SO much money, how long can they use their money hand to stay ahead of the competition.

PERFECTLY valid question.

Some of you need to stop arguing for the sake of arguing. I'm not gonna point any fingers, but if you think I'm talking about you, you're probably right.

IdleLeeSiuLung3500d ago

Do we really need another wordpress blog entry without any real information. This has been re-iterated in gazillion blogs already. Furthermore, this is an unbalanced article that reeks of fanboyism.

I'm tired of Sony's death or MS death articles, especially if they have discussed here in the past. It should be mandatory of every blog writer to research n4g articles before submitting their own story.

This will cut down all the crap!!!

Tarasque3500d ago

Well i doubt MS can do it as long as sony did with the Ps1 and the Ps2.

Tarasque3500d ago (Edited 3500d ago )

The problem is, there is not a single piece of evidence to back this article or your comment up. Point to links where MS bought sony exclusives? Sure they paid for some exclusive content for a multi platform game. This is the same article bs we have seen 3 trillion times on this site. All talk and no facts......such as the fanboys are.....

TresTrendu3500d ago

FAIL COMMENT

The article's is only thoughts and opinions. Unless the person starts showing facts, it is a epic fail read such as your comment.

Str8laced3500d ago (Edited 3500d ago )

Just got Pwned.......

tplarkin73500d ago

The article is all about MS buying exclusive content and losing money on hardware.

You can't "buy" success. You have to beat the competition. If MS didn't have Halo and Xbox Live, the Xbox would have flopped and Sony would have won. It was superior games that defeated Sony, not money.

N2NOther3500d ago

"Microsoft never bought ANYTHING directly from Sony. But they have put down MASSIVE amounts of money to move Sony's top IP's AWAY from Sony and ONTO the 360. Case in point, GTA. Sure it wasn't owned by Sony, and maybe not a Sony exclusive, but when most people thought GTA, they thought of the Playstation, not XBox. Microsoft put down A LOT of money to make sure that was no longer the case."

No they didn't. First of all, GTA was never Sony's TOP IP. And who do you think paid for the timed exclusivity of the GTA titles last gen? Uhm, that would be Sony. And yet you don't seem to have a problem with that.

But now, Rockstar sees that MS has a majority of the market right now (Not including the Wii because obviously GTA IV is impossible for WII) so they decided to not make the game exclusive and have it release on both at the same time in order to maximize profits. This is sound business.

This is the case with every Sony exclusive from last gen. PS3 just doesn't have the market share that they had last GEN so it makes the most sense to release it on both consoles. People who are loyal to Sony will, eventually get a PS3 when it becomes more affordable, but for publishers to release their games to a console that isn't nearly as popular as their last one, it doesn't make sense to keep them exclusive. Those deals dried up and new ones were available and Sony didn't bite this time.

Look at your example of Devil May Cry. Part 3 sold around 1.6 million copies compared the first game which sold almost 3 million. Now, 4 has sold around 1.3 million on PS3 and another 1.2 million on 360. Which is better to you? 1.3 million or 2.5 million?

The fact is, for 3rd party publishers and developers it doesn't make sense to have exclusives this generation. Leave those to first party. In terms of DLC, that's a new market right now, as far as consoles go so next gen we'll probably see a different market climate.

AAACE53500d ago

This article reeks of fanboyism, but i'll play along!

Sure MS is buying their success! It will work for them as long as they want it to. The truth is, they can't lose! With Ps3 owners not buying the amount of games they need to, it is only hurting Sony. And will allow MS to pull-off their finishing move by buying Sony!

If you can't beat em... buy em!

That was just a joke, but do we really need articles like this?

CrazedFiend3500d ago (Edited 3500d ago )

"No they didn't. First of all, GTA was never Sony's TOP IP. And who do you think paid for the timed exclusivity of the GTA titles last gen? Uhm, that wold be Sony. And yet you don't seem to have a problem with that."

I never said GTA was the Playstation's "top" IP, but it was definately one of them. GTA3's success was made on the PS2 and a lot of PS2's were sold because of GTA3. And I also guess you missed the part where I said that Microsoft is not the only one to do this. I KNOW that this is a part of business. I KNOW that Sony has also done this in the past. AND I NEVER said that I had any problems with Microsoft, Sony or anybody else doing this. Like I said business is business, or did you read my comment at all.

That is not my point or what I see the point of this article to be. The point being that whether it be $50 million to Rockstar for to DLC (not a full game mind you, DLC) or $1 billion for a guarantee against their RRoD, or what ever else Microsoft HAS been spending a lot of money to be where they are.

"But now, Rockstar sees that MS has a majority of the market right now (Not including the Wii because obviously GTA IV is impossible for WII) so they decided to not make the game exclusive and have it release on both at the same time in order to maximize profits. This is sound business."

Your absolutely right, I agree with you and Rockstar 100%. But the fact is that Microsoft did pay Rockstar an EXTRA $5,000,000 that they didn't have to pay in order to get GTA4 since it was already going to be multiplatform, to have something to make the 360 version look more appealing than the PS3 version. Do you remember that list of Sony exclusives they were so proud to display that they were going after? You remember how they were PUBLICLY crossing names off that list right? Whether or not they actually come out and say it, do you honestly believe that Rockstar is the ONLY one to get a little financial incentive from MS? I'm not gonna say that Sony isn't or has not ever done that, but how can ANYONE say that MS isn't putting that money out there?

And I'm not saying that's bad cause I would probably do the same. But being that out of the three, it sure does seem that Microsoft is APPERENTLY shelling out a lot more money on external resources, so I think that asking how long that money can last is again a perfectly valid question. I do thing that Microsoft's pockets are deep enough to handle it quite a bit longer, but many people may not feel that way. I mean come on, the guy's just asking. He's not telling you that Microsoft is doing bad business (which they're not) or that they're going under soon (again, not gonna happen).

So that's why I say that I see a bunch of people here that want to argue for the sake of arguing. He asked a simple question to which an appropriate answer to him I think would be "Not any time soon". Which is how I feel about it. MS is not going anywhere any time soon.

edgeofblade3500d ago

Another "Microsoft is buying the world off" conspiracy theory. That's just what it is... a conspiracy theory.

cloud 2793500d ago

MS should buy exclusive content for COD:MW2. This is a very anticipated game compared to COD 4 and could easily get the money on their investment back. Instead of paying for Tomb Raider or GTA DLC.
Not to offend any gamer who bought DLC for GTA

Ldubbz3499d ago

Why do we have someone submitting their own blog? Just use the forums if u wanna rant.

And really, this is crapola. Massive price drop? WHAT MASSIVE PRICE DROP? I know this is hard to accept when youre delusional, but MS dropped the price of the Arcade and Pro models to $100 less than their introductory price, nearly 3 years earlier. But that is $100 TOTAL, when adding the previous price drop a little more than a year previous...which was 18 MONTHS AFTER ITS INITIAL RELEASE. PLEASE GET THAT THRU YOUR THICK SKULLS!

PS3 dropped price $100 after being on the market for LESS THAN A YEAR! Sounds desperate to me.

And in case you didnt know, this is business. When and if MS provides capital to a company for a game, that is an investment, not a giveaway. But if it was actually a giveaway, then thanks to MS for looking out for its gamers.

pain777pas3499d ago

M$, the truth is that the system is dated for early adopters like myself who bought the system some 3 years ago. I found that it does not appeal to me as much anymore. Watched a bluray the other day and found that I'll be using less and less. If PSN continues to add features I'll have no need for the 360. I'm a gamer yes but I like the web browser with zoom features and stuff like that. I like the Bluray player. Not paying to playgames. I like the PS3. I'm just well rounded and having a PS3 as my primary everything gadget suits ME just fine.

Scottama3499d ago

1) The article requires no apostrophe in "it's"
2) Mr. Jhawk, you have used the incorrect "There"/"They'r e"/"Their" there. It should be "They're" there. There.

thats_just_prime3499d ago

Only idiot ps3 fanboy think MS is paying out money for all the games it gets. 1st off MS beat the ps3 out by a whole year meaning when dev started working on some of these game the only system they knew for sure they could release them on was the 360 cause the ps3 was delayed. When the ps3 did come out the price was so high that sells were extremely low ensuring that any exclusive made for the ps3 would cost the company money. Now the ps3 sellers are doing better the 360 is still leading by 8million worldwide and that lead is growing. There is no need for MS to pay anyone to make a game multi plat going multi plat is just good business.

However they do pay for exclusive but then so does sony. Sony spent how much on KZ2 and it took over 4 years. While MS invested GoW and they are on their 2nd game in 2 years with a 3rd in the works. Who you really think made the better investment

As for the price drop 1st off this was only the 360 2nd price drop in 3 year and each price drop was 50 dollars. The ps3 had 2 100 dollar price drop in the 1st 6 months and there are rumor of another 100 price drop. MS makes a profit of 360 sold so it could afford to drop the price hell they could afford another 50 dollar drop. While the sony is still losing money on every ps3 sold.

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panasonic233500d ago

Ms keeping doing what yall doing it working sonyfans are going crazy .

bbblockbird3500d ago

buying their victory is the only way Microsoft would win if you ask me pound for pound by that i mean same price tag sony would be killing microsoft in sales

JhawkFootball063500d ago (Edited 3500d ago )

I love how every ps3 owner says well if the ps3 had this, or if they were at this price they would be winning. But the fact is that their not so save eveerybody some time and dont post stupid stuff like that

bbblockbird3500d ago

look all im saying is playstation3 is overall better then xbox360 i dont give a damn who winning the console war. ps3 has more pros than xbox360 and less cons than xbox360. its smart that the xbox is twice as cheap as ps3 but then shouldnt it sell twice as much i mean isnt it only ahead by 2 to 4 million units sold thats a lil disappointing

JhawkFootball063500d ago

I bought the PS3 on sunday. I can tell you it is MUCH more advanced than the xbox 360. The XMB doesnt lag at all like the xbox 360 does which I love. But the thing is, the PS3 interface is just not as user friendly and the xbox 360 is. If I was 7 years old, or if I was buying my first console, if I bought a PS3 I wouldnt know what the hell to set up or what to do at all. All the settings and stuff

bbblockbird3500d ago

yes but the fact is ur not 7 and if you r what r u doing wit a ps3 or xbox, get a wii. 2nd i will agree with the fact the interface is not the best thing in world but still most of the settings that are hard to understand have a option where it says automatic or it isnt a setting that is wroth while to notice or dosnt make a big difference. i feel the interface dosnt need flashy colors or an index and if you r the kind of guy who does like that go with themes

hippo243500d ago (Edited 3500d ago )

Wait, why don't we all stop bickering and buy a pc.

We all know that there's no argument against it, unless your a 10 year old kid who must get momma to buy stuff for him.

Dont BE mAdd3500d ago

"2nd i will agree with the fact the interface is not the best thing in world but still most of the settings that are hard to understand have a option where it says automatic or it isnt a setting that is wroth while to notice or dosnt make a big difference."

Um the only way to communicate with any electronic device is through the interface...if that isnt right or easy to use the system fails right of the bat. As you say there are settings that are not worth noticing...what...why are they there? 360 mite have all its cons as you say but the biggest pro is the interface, this way it is EASY(keyword) to get the most out of my system and doesnt take away from the experience..isnt that the most important pro of them all..

hfaze3500d ago (Edited 3500d ago )

"As you say there are settings that are not worth noticing...what...why are they there?"

Honestly, the settings that bbblockbird was likely referring to are the advanced settings (digital audio streaming settings, HDMI port settings, etc.) Not every PS3 user will have to set ANYTHING in those settings, especially if you are using a SDTV. However, if you have a HDTV that will do HDMI 1.3 and can take advantage of the advanced settings, or a nice home theater system with optical or HDMI audio input, then it is nice to have the options available.

"360 mite have all its cons as you say but the biggest pro is the interface, this way it is EASY(keyword) to get the most out of my system and doesnt take away from the experience..isnt that the most important pro of them all.."

While easy is convenient for casual or non-technical users, it can be a drawback to users that know their equipment and want to fine-tune the settings. If the UI doesn't give you the option to change your digital audio streaming format for example, then you're SOL if you want or need to change these settings.

I have had a PS3 since mid-December of '06, and I have never found the XMB difficult to use. Granted, I have had a PSP since launch, and was already familiar with the PSP's version of the XMB, but even that took no time at all to get used to.

Can an interface be considered "difficult to use" just for giving users options instead of completely relying on automatic detection and not giving users access to the settings?

LastDance3500d ago

"But the thing is, the PS3 interface is just not as user friendly"

are you looking at your TV the right way?

Ps3 interface is a lot more simple and easy then the xbox

bbblockbird3500d ago

thank u guys for seeing reason

edgeofblade3500d ago

bbblockbird, you can't just walk up and say PS3 "IS" better than 360, or PS3 "DOES HAVE" more pros and less cons than 360. It's not for you to say. My comparisons are different than yours. I don't need or want Blu-ray. In fact, if I could, I would have bought my PS3 without it. I think tilt on the PS3 is very poorly implemented. I think "free" online isn't really free after you pay extra for the console.

And guess what, you don't get to make my opinions for me. Neither are your opinions fact to anyone but you. That's what we hate about PS3 fanboys... that smug sense of undeserved superiority as they w*nk in a candlelight circle around a Sony logo, while their console STILL languishes in the sales charts. It's sour apples all around for you, and the only way you can fight back is to wage a guerrilla media war as the proxy of Sony's limp, inferiority-complex of a PR department.

Go away.

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GUNS N SWORDS3500d ago (Edited 3500d ago )

i think the article is a bit dumb.

didn't the original XBOX basically die from lack of support from it's own company?

so..........don't you think it would be better for MS to contribute to the health and progress of it's console, rather than abandon it and waste more chances, time, and money on other projects?

JhawkFootball063500d ago

The xbox came in late the last generation. With all the mods and hacking going on with the original xbox, and the huge support with the ps2, they had to move on to bigger and better things. I believe the orignial xbox was built to see how the industry is like and what their strategies for the oncoming years will be

GiantEnemyCrab3500d ago

a bit dumb? Try really dumb.

"and even paying other developers of sony exclusives to bring their game to the console."

MS is just pulling a play from Sony's playbook. They did the same thing to Nintendo. Also, MS paid for GTA IV DLC but does this POS article provide any links to proof that MS has paid for anything? Even Square said MS did not pay them for their titles.

"A massive price cut right before the holidays greatly raised sales. This was a desperate move for Microsoft as the PS3 started outselling the 360 for many months in a row."

Desperate move? The system was out for 3 years a price cut was due! MS has been playing by their schedule and this was planned. Desperate is cutting your price in the first year and who did that?

"Microsoft payed $50 million for exclusive GTA downloadable content that released almost over a year after the game came out, and many people are out of the “GTA Phase” and have moved on to bigger, better games. This isn’t the first time Microsoft has wasted money on exclusive rights."

Total conjecture. Speak for yourself on not wanting this content. Most of my friends list is playing L&D and I bought it myself. Sounds like a PS3 fanboy perspective right there. Of course if you ask them nobody is interested in GTA IV and it was a horrible game. I am happy to be playing more of GTA IV and I hear this new story is even better than Niko's.

"Microsoft keeps buying exclusives from third party, but how much longer can they go on doing this? "

Yes, because every 360 third party exclusive is paid for right? I couldn't be that dev's find the 360 easier to make a game on and more cost effective? Or that it has a large enough install base to support good sales for a good game. I guess MS shouldn't do this? I guess Konami released MGS4 on the PS3 because Sony paid them?

"Microsoft has to much money to throw away, with so much wasted money on exclusive content, console repairs, price drop, and more. Even after all these actions, the Xbox continues to be outsold by the Wii, and equally numbed by the PS3."

Wasted? I'm sorry again this sounds like a PS3 fanboy perspective. It was not wasted. I enjoyed every bit of exclusive content as a 360 gamer. I mean how dare MS try and bring their console owners the best and most unique games right?? It's called business and the console game is a competitive one.

And equally numbered by the PS3? Has this person saw the latest NPD's? No matter what the margin they are not equal.

Traveler3500d ago (Edited 3500d ago )

I like both my consoles (360 and PS3), but the problem I have with Microsoft's approach this time around is that they don't seem to really be bringing that many new and unique gaming experiences. How many new IPs has MS introduced? The only new IPs they have introduced that I care about are Gears of War and Mass Effect (both of which are technically third-party franchises).

Sony, on the other hand, has introduced quite a few new first-party IPs this generation. Games like LittleBigPlanet, Resistance, Uncharted, and Heavenly Sword are some of my favorite games this generation.

In my opinion, paying 40 or 50 million for downloadable content is the wrong approach. They should have invested that money towards developing a new IP or an outstanding, fully-developed sequel to a well-loved franchise.

siren3500d ago

Microsoft has introduced a lot of new IP this generation. While a lot of it may not have appealed to you, that does not mean that it is not new.

Some of the new IP are new takes on existing franchises, but in the cases listed below they are almost nothing like the original franchise (with exception of art direction and story in most cases)

If you take just MS produced retail games, they have introduced 6 new IP per year since launch. This is not counting introductions of new games in original Xbox series, just brand new IP.

If you count Arcade games from MS, you get about 3 - 5 more new IP per year (digging up all the arcade games and 1st/2nd v 3rd party relationship is a bit harder)

If you count all the 3rd party titles MS has worked to introduce exclusively on the 360 you add 3 - 4 more new IP each year.

If you add in games that eventually went to competing platforms but had at least 6 months exclusivity you can tack on another 3 - 4 new IP per year with games like Overlord, Bioshock, Eternal Sonata, [EM]eNCHANCTEDaRM, etc.

This is not an exhaustive list, just an example. To say MS is not introducing new IP either from 1st/2nd party or through collaberation with 3rd party is just naive.

1st/2nd Party
- Retail

Kameo
Banjo & Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts
Lost Odyssey
Blue Dragon
Infinite Undiscovery
Every Party
A-Train
Mass Effect
Gears of War
Halo Wars
Kingdome Under Fire: Circle of Doom (not like Xbox KUF at all)
Lips
Ninja Blade
Scene It?
Shadowrun (First FPS in franchise)
Too Human
Viva Pinata
Viva Pinata: Party Animals
You're in the Movies

- Arcade
Geometry Wars
A Kingdom for Keflings
Aegis Wing
Dash of Destruction
Fable 2 Pub Games
Hardwood Board Games series
Minesweeper Flags

3rd Party

- Retail
The Last Remnant
Absolute Blazing Infinity
Bullet Witch
Chromehounds
Condemned
Culdcept Saga (First in series with online play, otherwise not original)
Left4Dead
Lost Planet
Ninety-Nine Nights
Operation Darkness
Prey
Project Sylpheed
Saints Row
Zoids Assault

- Arcade
Braid
Arkadian Warriors
Assault Heroes
Band of Bugs
Castle Crashers
Death Tank
E4
Exit
Interpol
Pac-Man Championship Edition
Puzzle Arcade
Schizoid
Switchball
Marble Blast Ultra
The Maw

JD_Shadow3500d ago

"a bit dumb? Try really dumb."

There were typos in a few places, so...

"MS is just pulling a play from Sony's playbook. They did the same thing to Nintendo. Also, MS paid for GTA IV DLC but does this POS article provide any links to proof that MS has paid for anything? Even Square said MS did not pay them for their titles."

Actually, you got the accusation wrong. The accusation was that it was Sega that Sony did that to, and remember that Nintendo INVENTED that tactic back in the NES days.

Also, the whole 50 million dollars was according to a T2 financial report early last year. That's been common knowledge by now and I don't think it needed sourcing.

And just because someone else did the same dirty tactic in the past doesn't mean it's alright for someone else to do so NOW! If it was immoral for Sony to do that, then it's immoral for Microsoft to do it. PERIOD!

"Desperate move? The system was out for 3 years a price cut was due! MS has been playing by their schedule and this was planned. Desperate is cutting your price in the first year and who did that?"

Actually, the 360 was getting beat BY the PS3 during most of 2008 before the price cut. Here's the thing: Microsoft saw that Sony had the momentum swinging their direction. Their main answer: Make THEIR console cheaper in order to sway the pendulum back their way. It seems like the only answer Microsoft has to this momentum thing is a price cut.

"Total conjecture. Speak for yourself on not wanting this content. Most of my friends list is playing L&D and I bought it myself. Sounds like a PS3 fanboy perspective right there. Of course if you ask them nobody is interested in GTA IV and it was a horrible game. I am happy to be playing more of GTA IV and I hear this new story is even better than Niko's."

See, now this is more of personal opinion, and that should've been something that you can respect if someone else doesn't like the game as much as you did. I'm glad you enjoy it that much, but for me, the fact that GTA4 lost the flare that made the previous GTAs what they were (and based upon some of the trailers that I've seen OF L&D), I'm hesitant to want to even pick up GTA4 again to try this out, especially with the other games that we're getting this month in Street Fighter 4 and Killzone 2. Again, I'm glad YOU love the EC, but I might not.

"Yes, because every 360 third party exclusive is paid for right? I couldn't be that dev's find the 360 easier to make a game on and more cost effective? Or that it has a large enough install base to support good sales for a good game. I guess MS shouldn't do this? I guess Konami released MGS4 on the PS3 because Sony paid them?"

Microsoft has the money, all right, and the suspicion comes FROM what transpired as a result of the T2 50 mil stuff. The problem is that is MS trying to monopolize the gaming console market here? That's what this article was trying to convey (not very WELL, mind you, but it was the point it was trying to say). And also, if I was a dev, I would want to make games on the system I thought would give me the most out of my game. That's the element that would sway MY decision before if the system was easy to develop on (though it is a good thing to consider, I'll give you that, it's not the first thing I'd think of). Sorry if that sounds fanboyish, but it's what I would think about.

"Wasted? I'm sorry again this sounds like a PS3 fanboy perspective. It was not wasted. I enjoyed every bit of exclusive content as a 360 gamer. I mean how dare MS try and bring their console owners the best and most unique games right?? It's called business and the console game is a competitive one."

Actually, that sounds like an argument coming from the other side of the aisle there, sorry to say. Right now, there's not very many 360 games aside from Mass Effect that I am wanting (though the XBL Arcade games are good). MS hasn't really given much innovation game wise, in my opinion, just yet. Most of the games that they have right now are third party multiplatform titles and those that were on Sony consoles previously. You HAVE to invest SOMETHING in first parties and stop worrying about one-upping the other guys every time they get a little momentum. What I mean by that is that they have to carve their own identity, because right at the moment (and I don't mean this as a fanboy but as a gamer that's concerned about their position right now), the 360 should instead be called the "Playstation 2.5".

And business IS business, but there is a such thing as being unfair in the world of business, and if you're not careful, then one way or another, you'll get burned in the end. People fear that while business is business (as I've said), MS isn't playing by the rules and instead ripping off of everyone else's ideas (I don't have a position on THAT, but that's the general consensus of those that don't like MS's business practices). You CAN do business and still play fair.

The "two new IPs" that MS is rumored to have is the first time I've heard anything from MS that actually has me curious in a GOOD way about what they are doing. Hopefully they turn out to be good games.

"And equally numbered by the PS3? Has this person saw the latest NPD's? No matter what the margin they are not equal."

No, they aren't, but you have to remember that Sony is making money off of all three of the systems they have on the market right now (PS3, PSP, and PS2), which means they aren't in any real danger. The PS3 does, SORELY, need a price cut (as the NPD numbers DO show) and needs to learn what the hell MARKETING is, but other than that (and to stop sitting around and LET MS lure third parties away, HOWEVER they do it), Sony is doing alright.

Oh, and remember that NPD is only in America. When factoring in worldwide sales, the "equal sales numbers" thing DOES hold a LOT more water.

SkyGamer3500d ago

Also add in my personal faves, Earth Defense Force 2017 and Onechanabra: Bikini Samurai Squad. Also it is a first for Xbox brand for main-stream Final Fantasy and Tekken. Also add to the list Ace Combat 6 and Resident Evil 5. Can't forget about Alan Wake and Race Pro. Oh, silly me, Last Remnat, Infinite Undiscovery and Star Ocean 4, all new entries for the X-Brand.

I like how people scream MS monopolises gaming when what did sony do last gen?

Let's see they monopolised DVD playback in consoles and took about every third party developer (from Sega). They squashed everyone with so many consoles sold and did you hear MS and Nintendo fans whine as much, no. That goes to show you who has more class.

NickIni3500d ago

"They squashed everyone with so many consoles sold and did you hear MS and Nintendo fans whine as much, no. That goes to show you who has more class."

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If you think any Fanboy has class, your a complete and utter fool. "Fanboy wars" weren't as big, for lack of a better word, last gen as they are this gen.

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Why dis3500d ago

Defending a console in last place by bashing the success of its competition is so moronic it makes me feel bad for you, not angry.

Only PS3 fanboys can bash all day every day looking for ways to make PS3 better than it is claiming it offers more than it does.

cryymoar3499d ago

defending a broken console that has no more to add to gaming is pretty pathetic in its own. I'd rather own the underdog that delivers 10x more convincing experience that works than a best selling console that is already out of steam.
Face it, in 2009, the age and the "low cost" of the xbox 360 is going to show. It already has. Street Fighter 4 standard definition dvd rings a bell. Killzone 2 is adding insult to injury, god of war 3 will add another blow to the x360, and then there's much more to come (Gran Turismo 5, team Ico game)

trancefreak3499d ago

Man i just bought a clean 60gb refurb so good to have another og ps3 collector version.