Clearing up the issue of Trophy support in PS3 titles following the discovery that Shellshock 2: Blood Trails does not support the feature.
Obviously whoever wrote this article doesn't know how to read. Sony announced that every game announced within and after 2009 will have to include trophies - not every game released in and after 2009 that's already been announced.
Please. Stop. You can't expect the internet to actually take PR statements at FACE VALUE, can you? It needs to be skewed, twisted, mangled, taken out of context, and misrepresented to be considered "news worthy" on the internet. Sheeesh.
Well, Sony said it but the fact is that thopies arent here in 2009! Hell, Eternal Sonata released last week in Europe and no trophies in it! Also, Who wants to bet Street Fighter 2 HD wont have trophies when its released tomorrow?! Whats worse is that Capcom said the approve process was taking too long because trophies were mandatory in 2009!!! My head hurts! I cant understand anything! One says yes, the other says not really and the other says maybe!
@GrieverSoul All the games you mentioned were already released in 2008 before the 2009 deadline. As Europe gets everything last like Eternal Sonata which was released in the US in 2008 they did not need to give trophies and they still don't have to.
Every game nearing full development and released in 2009 and onwards. Not games that were nearing development in 2008...Sigh.
Who cares about that game ? When FEAR2 is out and KZ2 is on it's way.
That is not the point is it? The point is that they said it's mandatory but we still see titles without this great feature. Which might make developers lazier and skip this! Who cares what game it is. Maybe someone prefer Shellshock 2: Blood Trails for some wierd as hell reason(could somehow be possible if it's somebody retarded)
shell shock needs more than trophys a complete rebuild would be good 2 out of ten said it all.
Are people actually playing this game that doesnt get paid to play(review) it? There are too many good games to be giving this game a single look.
I'm renting it, should be good for a laugh. 2/10, no way I'm missing out on that :)
Lol Fishy! I love renting really awful games every now and then, just to see how bad they really are! Lovefilm.co.uk gamer/dvd package FTW! Although you could argue we are perpetuating the development of awful games by renting these titles!
Fishy, I saw a 1/10 yesterday. Should be frustrating and disappointing, unless you are using it to kick your gaming addiction.
Ha, I just love trying them out. Bit like movies really, I'll take the rough with the smooth you know. I recall some of my fondest gaming (or movie) moments are from playing stuff like this with friends! They're soooo crap they're somehow "good". Plus, imagine going from this to KZ2 ;) Edit: Seems we have a disagree fairy doing the rounds :)
for this flop lol
oh noes how will i show my E peen with no trophies!
What the hell is ShellShock? Is it a Ninja Turtles game?
lol its actually one of GG games..but GG didnt make this they sold the rights to this game to someone..edios i guess
...to yet another failure by Guerilla Games. Apparently the devs that took over the IP wanted to remain faithful to the original. :o
"lol its actually one of GG games..but GG didnt make this they sold the rights to this game to someone..edios i guess" I vaguely remember that . . . it's the game they made before Sony acquired them, right? That game, if I recall, sucked. ".to yet another failure by Guerilla Games. Apparently the devs that took over the IP wanted to remain faithful to the original. :o" *facepalms* This comment would be funny were it not so pathetic.
The games that people care about will have trophy support this year!
haahahha ahahahahahaha PSN = FAIL! I could care less about gamerpoints in general but its just freaking funny for those that do: 360 gamerpoints had from start in ALL games. SO you really have a score from ALL the games you played. PS3 gamerpoints are not in every game. Making it totally worthless. Because how the fack is it then comparable to other peoples gamer scores? What is the value of gamerpoints when Sony doesn't even take them serious?
You're absolutely right ! Having such a fractured "Trophy" library completely invalidates the entire system. I can understand that all companies/games didn't jump immediately on the Trophy bandwagon, but Sony should ENSURE that ALL games will EVENTUALLY support trophies. If the original companies don't want to step up, Sony themselves, should. Sony is just showing their lack of a unified service. Honestly, I heavily criticized Microsoft for their yearly network fee, but if it means a unified service over another, fractured service, I'll choose the pay service any day. I've been heavily debating on just boxing up my PS3 (60GB) and all my games (over 50, that don't support Trophies mind you) and shipping to Sony's headquarters with a note telling them how dissatisfied, but in doing the math, it would be a pretty expensive shipment.
because one game that has like a 3/10 metascore doesn't have trophies, it means PSN is a failure?? By all means NO! Only the REAL games that PS3 gamers care about are gona have trophies. And besides, PS3 owners aren't achievement whores like xbots are. There's no point to try to increase your score even with stupid games like Call of Juarez when you don't get anything for it anyway.
What exactly, are you achieving? no pun intended.
Mm I don't really care all to much for trophies, I'd go through the game on any difficulty if I loved it a lot. All I hope for is that the game play is as good as the videos I may have previously seen as well as some screen captures/images. Overall trophies aren't the end of the world for me, would be nice I suppose, but overall I enjoy the games for what they are and the best achievement the game could ever give me is the enjoyment I receive from it :).
But then again based on what you said, for someone to disagree they would have to think that trophies are more important than the game itself. I didnt buy a PS3 to play the trophy game thats for sure. But to say that in seeking that achievement in a game of just being very happy to play it.......trophies do not take away from that. I think the problem isnt with trophies, its with the compulsiveness that some players show, that they are more interested in "beating" the game as to experiencing it. Shoot, i knew a guy that would come into Subway and order a foot long Tuna sandwich WITH 8 meatballs. Figure that one out.
well maybe its cus they disagree with his opinion...hence the term disagree
Like 99% of the games now have trophies. Hell, even Cuboid does. BTW, awesome game!
has no trophy support. I kinda hate Sony/Kojima Productions for that.
sony is not to blame at all. its all kojima productions and konami.
I agree but they have admitted they made quite a few mistakes with MGS4/MGO, hell they lost a crap ton of potential online players with the whole Konaami ID BS. I play the hell out of MGO but have several friends that saw it as too much of a hassle.
Well I think many thought that when Sony said all games in 09 will have trophies they took it as all games in 09 will have trophies. Glad we have a rebuttal to it that says as long as it's been certified my the ESRB in 09 it'll have trophies... kind of not what was first said but hey what can you do. Trophies don't make a game -.-
Sony said that starting in '09, any new games would mandatoryly(?) have to have trophies in them. This means that we will of course see more games in 09 with trophy support. :"New Games" is not released games in 09 (new to you and me) but actual new games in development. Those have to have it. Sony didnt fail, we wont even see what it is they have implemented until games that are starting to be developed this year are released much later. And all those games will have trophies.
I never said Sony failed. I just said it was a nice play on words really. New games released in 09 will have trophies. Afro Samurai and this Shell Shock are new games in 09 but have no trophies. Naturally I don't give a hoot if any game has trophies or not but I do think they way the phrased it had a lot to do with this confusion. Maybe they just should of said all games starting development in 09 will have trophies..?
Im sorry , I wasn't implying that you specifically said Sony failed. But as to that last part, that's exactly what Sony said. In development. I now have 30 minutes to edit this with some linkage. --edit1---well i see the quote that caused so much confusion..."Yes from Jan 09 all games must have trophies." --this from an unnamed Sony Rep. Let us see what else there is... --edit2--- from our friends at EDGE...hrmmm.... A rep for Sony Computer Entertainment America told Edge in an e-mail, "Yes, this is correct for titles submitted after January 1. Obviously many teams have already started to incorporate trophies and even include support for older titles."-- so now we are getting warmer, games submitted after Jan 1st? Submitted for what exactly...I think they are speaking of development-- but i know there was a really good quote somewhere..... ----edit3--- ok here is a source. but nothing concrete from sony it seems. This from Andrei Dumitrescu: Sony implies that, starting with January 2009, all the games which are trying to get certification to be published for the PlayStation 3 will need to have support implemented for the Trophy system introduced through a firmware update in July. I wish I had something more definite from Sony--it seems a lot of all the news was taken from that first quote, which wasnt even applied to a name. Oh well I tried.
Ah cool beans. I'm sure they said what you have down it's just people hear/read it differently. I know many people who were saying every single game in 09 will have to have trophies and we know that isn't the case. Just how some read into things I suppose.
People are already saying this and it is not confusing unless you didn't already read Sony's statements, or misconstrued them. I am a trophy supporter, forget the e-peen, forget the compulsiveness, just remember, this is in addition to the game, so to look down on it is to not understand it. Trophies are the best imo because they provide timed tags for accomplishments, and it is nice when meeting new people, to look at their trophies, to see when and how they like to play games. Trophies only add to the game. Really.
Yeah but my achievement is bigger then your trophy. Basically who cares.
eh...all the games people actually care about will have trophies I'm sure. But who cares really? I only get trophies to help extend the playability of games I really like. Only real shame was that MGS4 had no trophies tho they had a bunch of unlockables. Hope the new release of it has trophies...maybe trade in my regular copy of it for it if it does.
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