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360 Dead In Japan

This past year journalists and gamers alike were treated to the ultimate spin by Microsoft. Microsoft told everyone of the sudden gain in momentum for their upstart Xbox 360 in Japan. To be fair Microsoft was correct in telling everyone that the 360 hardware and software was selling better than the year before. It just turns out the actually difference in numbers is laughable.

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3472d ago Replies(11)
The_Zeitgeist3472d ago

Those are some bad numbers. Microsoft needs to do some serious PR work in Japan if they want to have any chance at competing there.

IdleLeeSiuLung3472d ago

The Xbox 360 doing poorly in Japan is no suprise, but the biggest suprise is PS3 selling a whole 20% less consoles in Japan yoy while MS increased it by 20%. Granted that is just 60k consoles, it is still an increase and they are still doing miles better than the original Xbox.

The remaining missing marketshare swallowed by the evil Wii. I wonder what will happen the next generation.... We will probably all get motion sensing controls with gimmicky gameplay at 1080p.

The_Zeitgeist3472d ago

If you are calling this 20% increase a win for MS then you are falling prey to the spin my my friend. They only sold around 240,000 units the year before. So a 60,000 gain being 20% is really nothing but a tiny spec on the industry in Japan.

eagle213472d ago

And a year headstart. :)

ShiftyLookingCow3472d ago

Everyone who has been reading news for the last 2 or so years knows Microsoft doesn't really care about winning in Japan. So even that 20 percent increase is better than a decline. At least there is still some little tiny bit of interest rather than none.

But,still either because of MS hype, or enthusiastic reporting, the way certain games sold or a combination of factors, one kind of gets the feeling MS sold extremely well last year when that isn't the case.

nix3472d ago

as of now Power of Green is the sole leader. he even reported the news.

u got owned3472d ago

It's always been like that. Microsoft never had Japan. Nothing to see here, move along.

Rock Bottom3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

MS doesn't care about Japan?

Can you explain all the exclusive JRPGs then?

It's more like Japan doesn't care about the 360, MS did all they could, exclusive/timed exclusive JRPGs, celebrity adds, porting none Japanese games, selling 360s in Japan cheaper than they are in the US... yet Japanese said NO.

Powertesties3472d ago

That the 360 has been doing poorly in Japan. No need to read this article. Of course MS is going to say they are doing well/better than before, you can't admit defeat.

Even the PS3 isn't amazing us with the sales in Japan. What is amazing is the numbers for handhelds. WOW!

Montrealien3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

The fact that an american console is actually finding an audience, albeit a small one, in japan is a victory in it's self imho, heck they even had a slight gain over last year in hardware saleslong after many people predicted it would be dead.

But someone witting an article in 10 minutes specifically catered to N4G with a flame bate title, is sad indeed.

ukilnme3472d ago

@ Montrealien

Totally agree. I wonder if the author and submitter are one in the same.

KingME3472d ago

Hardly seems like the writings of a objective reporter.

Hardware Sales 2007-2008

Xbox 360
2007: 257,841
2008: 317,859

PlayStation 3
2007: 1,206,347
2008: 991,303

"The Total Increase in Hardware sales for Microsoft was only 60,018 hardly anything to brag about."

Does that sound like the comment of a whiny fanboy or is it just me?

"In the PS3's defense the entire world has been hit hard by the global recession." Was the 360 not sharing the same recession that he speak of? WOW

215,000 drop in hardware sales by the PS3 while although not much but a 60,000 gain by the 360. Which shows that at least the 360 has had some form of a gain. Yet the author makes the comment "360 dead in Japan."

Now, this article has a bias slant to it if I have ever seen one.

gaffyh3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

@Montrealien - The fact that a Japanese console is actually finding an audience, albeit a small one, in America is a victory in it's self imho, heck they even had a slight gain over last year in hardware saleslong after many people predicted it would be dead.

^To do with the PS3/Wii, do you agree with that statement? Please leave your fanboyism at the door.

@Kingme - Most of that 60,000 boost is to do with the price cut, PS3 costs twice as much, obviously a price cut would have an effect

Montrealien3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

(^To do with the PS3/Wii, do you agree with that statement? Please leave your fanboyism at the door. )

You make absolutly no sense at all. I mean, is that even a phrase?

I am well aware that the Wii and the Ps3 are doing much better in Japan then the 360. However the fact that I can ackowledge that the 360 is actually surviving over there as a good thing for the 360 has nothing to do with fanboyism. You're the one that's looking for fanboyish comments, maybe you should look in the mirror. Let the anonymous dissagrees commence...

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gaffyh3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

@Montrealien - You're being fanboyish again. What I'm trying to say is if you can say well done to the 360 for surviving in Japan, then why can't you say the same about PS3 in America?

Make sense now? So both consoles are doing well in their respective regions, but fanboys disregard this issue.

@above - It's only been 2 years, PS2 has been going for 9 years, I think there would be a slight difference in the amount of sales. Even Sony says that PS3 is tracking the same as PS2 (if not more)

I just hate it when people don't give credit where credit is due, console generations don't last 3 years only, unless you're Xbox 1.

KingME3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

Man, it doesn't really matter why there was an increase of 60,000. Whether it be a new title released, a price cut, or a new bundle. To me to say the 60,000 increase was because of a price cut is silly. Isn't that what a price cut is designed to do, increase sells?

Any increase in sells can be attributed to something. Stop making excuses.

One more thing, just food for thought. If the PS3 is tracking on pace with the PS2, then isn't the 360 doing at least the same. Can you say that for one and not say it for the other as you asked king dong?

Montrealien3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

(why can't you say the same about PS3 in America?)

Because that's not what this story I am commenting on is about? Are you that closed minded? I am comenting on a story called 360 DEAD IN JAPAN. A very poor one at that. Japanese consoles have been ruling NA for over 20 years now, an american console has never even gained a little ground in Japan. I don't need to say something about the playstation and nintendo that we already now when comenting on this story.

The PS3 is an amazing console that is doing well in NA, so is the 360, and any half wit gamer is well aware that the Wii is the best selling conole in the world atm. If I said it was in South east New Zealand would it matter? no! I own and play all of them, I love games, I hate fan****, and hate it even more when a pretentious little **** comes in and accuses me of being one.

Now pls, move along, the 360 is doing ok in Japan, the Wii and the PS3 have an amazing audience in NA, even though they are from Japan, an I love to play Space Taxi on my C64 emulator.

mods, pls don't ban me. :D

IdleLeeSiuLung3472d ago

KingMe is absolutely correct there. A sale is a sale, who cares what the reason is if is a trend and sustainable.

Just as much as the PS3 is selling well because of it's technology and the loyalty of Japanese consumers.

Lifendz3472d ago

Seriously, that's such a biased market against Western consoles that it would take a major turn of events for MS to ever do well over there. It's probably a money sink at this point. Take that money and put it into some new IPs or new functions for Live.

prowiew3471d ago

A better title would be : next gen gaming is dead in japan.

The fact that ps2 sold more than ps3 and 360 combined those two years!.
I believe that this only happen in japan. It looks that japan doesn't want to upgrade to next gen gaming.

UltimaEnder3471d ago

N4G has turned into a haven for fanboy junk and worthless articles with no point at all; it's sad because this place used to be a decent website, now it's a joke and will soon have no standing outside of a forum for fanboy flamewars.......sad sad!

cayal3471d ago

Someone should tell Square-Enix, they seem to be out of the loop.

majorsuave3471d ago

Japanese are very protectionists and happen to have 2 major console makers coming from Japan. It is no surprise that software for foreign machines account for less than 3%. As, after buying 2-3 'home' systems, only the hardcore gamers are tempted to buy a Xbox.

Heck, the inside market wasn't even big enough for Sega, Neo Geo or TurboGrafX to survive.

I bet things would not be much different if another American hardware/software maker decided to market a Console, be it Apple, Dell, HP or even say Activision.

They killed Atari (yep the name sounds Japanese but it was a CA based company), Mattel's Intellevision, Coleco's Colecovision, The Amstrad, Amiga CD and such.

Microsoft seems like the strongest yet of the 'non-Japanese' console makers, let's see if they manage to sell more in Japan in 2009 than in 2008 before claiming their death.

Arnon3471d ago

Uhh.. possibly because both Playstation 1 AND 2 did exceptionally well in the states. Same with all Nintendo products. So when you say "Well I can say the same cause PS3 is a Japanese product", it doesn't really make much sense.

On topic,

The 360 was never really doing all that good in Japan. It had some good moments, but it's obvious it isn't it's top seller. BUT.. just like one of the fellow men above me stated, the fact that it even cut into the Japanese gaming market is a medal of it's own. And it can clearly show that next gen, the 360 can have a LOT of good games that the Japanese can cater to and play.

Legion3471d ago

the percentages in the PI charts and the total numbers do not add up. How does PS3 go down 20% in sales and increase by 50% it's market share from the previous year? While MS goes up 20% in sales and increases by ony about 25% on it's market share from it's previous year? Not seeing the negative to posative flow here?

N4360G3471d ago

LOL yep,the Xbox 360 is beyond dead in Japan.

soxfan20053471d ago (Edited 3471d ago )

There is no rhyme or reason as to why certain consoles sell well in some countries but not others. Here are some examples:

PC Engine (TurboGrafx 16) was bigger in Japan than the original NES, yet failed to catch on in the U.S.

Sega Genesis, #1 in the US for 4 years, was never popular in Japan. As a matter of fact, several of Sega's biggest titles were actually produced for the PC Engine in Japan.

Sega Master System was very popular in Europe and South America, but not in the U.S. or Japan.

Anyway, success in Japan is not necessary for a console to be successful overall.

thats_just_prime3471d ago

Compared to the ps3 the 360 is having ungodly success in Japan. They sold 1 million 360 vs the ps3 3 million. This is the ps3 home turf and should be at 10 -20 million sold by now. Selling 1 million american 360 in the very anti american japan thats unheard of and they are being back by japnese devs like Se, MW and Capcom.

The Lazy One3471d ago

it's not the same because american's aren't especially xenophobic when it comes to products. The japanese are fiercely loyal to japanese products and people when compared to other companies.

Mini Mario3471d ago

"It looks that japan doesn't want to upgrade to next gen gaming."

But they have..with the wii and DS. Not everybody thinks that just by upgrading the graphics makes its a better machine.

especially if the DS (n64 graphics) is the most sold gaming unit ATM. Followed closley by the wii and psp (the psp with ps2 grahpics), follwed by a "last gen" consoles by the name of the ps2 (i am detecting a pattern here)

..and then lastly the ps3 and 360 (the ones with the "better" graphics)

So the lesson would be, ..just by upgrading graphics to some people isnt enough for the new console purchase.

KnowitAll3471d ago (Edited 3471d ago )

To Gaffyh-
So every time someone makes a semi positive opinion about a certain company, he somehow has to twist the words to say something positive of another company that has nothing to do with the story?
(That’s just stupid)

Then you go and call him a fanboy?
"To do with the PS3/Wii, do you agree with that statement? Please leave your fanboyism at the door."

Wow, just wow.

wait, wait, He even gives you a valid reason why he doesn't need to mention the ps3 or wii. (THEIR OFF TOPIC)
"However the fact that I can acknowledge that the 360 is actually surviving over there as a good thing for the 360 has nothing to do with fanboyism"

but its not good enough is it??????????
then you call him a fan boy again. (Which is pretty pathetic)
" You're being fanboyish again. What I'm trying to say is if you can say well done to the 360 for surviving in Japan, then why can't you say the same about PS3 in America?"

<LMAO!!!!!!>
"I just hate it when people don't give credit where credit is due, console generations don't last 3 years only, unless you're Xbox 1."
</LMAO!!!!!!>
Ok gaffyh, let me get the list of best selling games, top 10's, console week sales so I can mention them in the future and with a xbox joke. OK got-cha

EVERYONE!!! no matter what topic or subject its based on don't forget to give props to other one.... or else YOUR A FANBOY!!

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Kamikaze1353472d ago

Let's see what happens on the 19th when Star Ocean 4 comes out.

Hallucinate3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

wow who the hell would disagree with that?... its a ligitiment statment
but im just ganna throw my opinion in here.. it'll make a scratch at most

SL1M DADDY3472d ago

'Cause we all know how one game can turn the tide and make the 360 a complete success in a region that has very little interest in the console.

/sarcasm

Gorgon3472d ago

The same that happened with all the other JRPGs to date on the Xbox?

Kamikaze1353472d ago

I didn't say it would change the tide, I meant that it'll increase sales. People on this site sure love to assume things from one post, lol.

cayal3471d ago

"I didn't say it would change the tide, I meant that it'll increase sales. People on this site sure love to assume things from one post, lol."

Then write more then 15 words if you want to get across what you mean instead of a vague statement with no actual meaning.

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Zeus Lee3472d ago

Nothing but the truth.Star Ocean will boost the 360 in Japan,but other than that,Microsoft will need to buy Square if they hope to come close to Sony and Nintendo in JP.

John Titor3472d ago

Ps3 will die?Sony will go bankrupt?Microsoft will win Japan?

They'll receive a minor boost in console sales thanks to Star Ocean 4.The End.

Let's see what happens when Final Fantasy 13 is released exclusively on the Ps3 in Japan.

The_Zeitgeist3472d ago

I think you are the winner. Bubbles!

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LarVanian3472d ago

I think FF13 will be completely sold out at mid-night lol.

Gorgon3472d ago

"Never heard any spin from MSFT about momentum..."

Maybe if you read more and wrote less you would have.

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