What's Next? If rumors are true then Microsoft is ready to drop the price on their 60 GB model to $249 at the same time as Sony drops their lower end model to $299. I say lower end and not 80 GB model, because Sony is making moves...
More Halo seems to be their move.They're going to quickly realize they need a significantly better 1st party lineup.
When all else fails...price cui
Price cut simple as that, i wish they could show us some of their 09 lineup but i guess we will have to wait until e3
Probably from 2nd to 3rd in the console race. Oooooooooooooooooo burn. I kid. I kid. But in all seriousness, I'd buy a 360 if the price was right. I've got my eye on the Elite model. Sadly, I can't justify purchasing one at the current price point. My PC and PS3 seem to cover almost all of my bases save for a few choice exclusives. I hold no loyalties to any side. For me, it's all about cost VS value and at this time the price of a 360 may be lower than the competitors, but the value is seriously lacking.
I can almost guarantee Microsoft will drop the price of the 360 once the PS3 cut happens 'just becuase' they can. Like no reason will be behind it but they will do it just becuase. With the games, what exclusives are there really? Thing about Microsoft now is that they dont announce games unless they plan to release it the same year or shortly after, unlike Sony. So they probably have a great lineup, just waiting to be unleashed this E3...that or more PS3 exclusives now on the 360.
Someone PLEASE start a petition to get him kicked off of N4G. Guy is ruining game journalism!
$249?? you can get a 60gb 360 right now with Endwar for $239 at dell... http://accessories.us.dell....
But it's unlikely to happen anytime, soon. They had plenty of time to put together a better line of 1st party exclusives. Now relying mainly on 3rd party and a handful of stalwarts. MS should just cut their losses and focus on the 720 or make as much as they can this generation to pull out of consoles completely. Why? The $249 Ps3 is coming and the great Ps2 migration to the Ps3 has not begun yet.
I can't see M$ cutting the price of the 360..b4 summer...atleast.. they need to focus on getting exclusive games to there fanbase and stop worrying about trying to stay ahead of the PS3...
They have many unannounced titles and a killer network. They do need to start showing what they have up their sleeves. Either way, 2009, just as the previous years, is the year of the Xbox. Sony has some good looking titles as well. Having played through Killzone 2 it is amazing but not the 360 killer I was expecting. It does look amazing though....but nothing the 360 couldn't handle. Not flaming here people so don't start that stuff. Maturity please!
You guys realize that the only people who are worried about first party exclusives are the people on N4G correct?.. I mean, 95% of all multi-platform games have more success on the 360. Expect Resident Evil 5 and Street Fighter 4 to succeed on the 360 this month. And that isn't even something to flame, it just happens, EVERY-TIME. Whenever a major 360 exclusive DOES come out, it blows everything that it is competing with out of the park. Never have I seen complaints on any of the other major sites such as 1UP, Kotaku, Joystiq, IGN, Gamespot, etc. Microsoft, just like last year, and the year before, and the year before, will do perfectly fine. Halo Wars is already showing that. It has had over 2 million demo downloads so far. Then you have Ninja Blade, Star Ocean: The Last Hope, Race Pro, GTA: The Lost & Damned, etc. just in the first 2 quarters of the year. You can probably also expect another price cut, due to the fact that they are now making a profit off of the 360. They could easily bring it down to breaking even. Not to mention how they are developing the Valhalla motherboard which has the cpu and gpu as 1 superchip which increases space within the console and lowers the manufacturing costs.
Price cuts, if that doesn't work they need to handout free 360s, no seriously!
Thehiphopps3fanboy is ruining game just look at N4G prove that reading anything he prints kills brain cells.
"Someone PLEASE start a petition to get him kicked off of N4G. Guy is ruining game journalism!" Agreed. At first he seemed interesting, but now...despicable.
the thing most need to remember is that Microsoft and their online viral marketers WANT this to be an arugment about price. That's all they have left to argue. Id rather keep it centered around value which is an area where the 360 fails miserably. Seriously speaking I am turning my 360 on a bout once a month now and I don't see that improving anytime soon.
"Thehiphopps3fanboy is ruining game just look at N4G prove that reading anything he prints kills brain cells." That was hilarious. Thanks for the laugh, but, to stop yourself looking like a complete fool, I suggest getting a spell checker for next time.
Right now I own a PC and a PS3. If I where to buy a 360 then I have to ask myself how much would I get out of it in the coming year? Almost every game Microsoft is bragging about is also multiplatform so that won't cut it. Microsoft has still not confirmed that the RROD issue is fixed. Xbox live costs money that could be spent on games on the PS3/PC instead. This time it's no tricks or illusions that will do. They'll have to really pull a bunny out of the hat this time.
Quit and focus on software and reclaim the OS market please. With their focus in all area, they are losing market share on everything. How bout getting back to root, and focus to get OS market share first by putting up Quality OS for the first time.
Does this website ever do anything besides these stupid fanboy flame-bait articles, seriously why would they when N4G keeps eating them up! It's obvious that he uses this site as his personal burning ground for his site's junk articles.....seriously this place will soon only have HHG fans, should be fantastic...LOL
Time will learn.
True. I am curious to see what they will announce. Frankly Halo and Halo is not interesting to me. I want to see Alan Wake and something a bit more varied.
Well, i think the line up is pretty varied. Where getting rpg's, an rts, some shooters, some racing games, and a bunch of action games. What more categorys are there ?
At this stage they have nothing that wow's me like some upcoming PS3 games are doing and that is what I want to see.
Nothing games wise. I would imagine a Price Cut maybe? Thats the only weapon MS has left. Or making Live free.
Wont make a difference cause its the Arcade that is selling and thats already dirt cheap. They would have to lower the price of the Arcade to $99.
Wrong. The ones that are actually selling the most are the Pro and Elite. Even stupid people know about how bad the Arcade is.
More Gears games. Oh and a sequel to Lips. LOL! Good Luck MS!
They could call it 'LIPS 2:ASS' ;-D ;-D ;-D
I don't know why so many of you continue to hurt your own console fanbase with weak-a$$ statements. I know there are PS3 fans out there who are true-blue, 100% hardcore gamers, and not a bunch of clowns with bad comebacks. Why don't you defend your console by literally supporting it, and not by dogging the dude ahead in line. What does it show for your console? 3rd place? You tell me man. You represent the machine.
The next move for Microsoft is sh*ting out they're pens... hahaha
More Halo games? Give us Xbox 360 owners something new to play Microsoft,why can't Microsoft be more like SONY? :(
is a bunch of bull.. I can't believe you guys even take them seriously anymore.
Sony is hanging in there by a string and Microsoft is coming with the scissors
because Microsoft is too busy trying to be like EVERYONE else. @ lobster No, Microsoft are rope-tied to a train tracks, and Sony is a train steaming full ahead.
Hmm...More Dirty internet LIES???
Yep thats right. More lies from Aaron Cheeseburger and more Xtards prentending they have a PS3. Also more Bots claiming multiplatform games as exclusive.
Aree with ^^^^^^^ all you guys.. lol
Price cuts will hurt microsoft more than they already are. Microsoft can't cut price anytime soon. Investors would go crazy.
Whats that suppose to mean!?
yep this price drop strategy was what ms used for the original xbox right before it hit the bargain bin close outs in wally world.
Pretty sure you're confusing yourself with Sony. Microsoft makes profits on the 360 already, Sony? No.
"Microsoft makes profits on the 360 already, Sony? No." Really? So how much profit does Microsoft make off of the $199.99 Arcade models out there on the market? How much profit does Microsoft make off of the Pro or Elite? The only 360 SKU that I can see being profitable for Microsoft is the Elite, and probably breaking even on the Pro. But trying to convince yourself that MS is making money off of the Arcade... LOL...
And yet, common logic slips your mind. You do realize how cheap it is to manufacture the motherboards now for the 360, correct? Jasper is nothing to them rofl. Also, how would YOU know what they make a profit off of?
thanks in large part to their marketing strategy. PS3 will keep getting better anyways, so everybody wins at the end. MS is going to drop the price but i wonder, what for? being already the cheapest has not given the final blow to the PS3, and this year price cut alone wont do the trick. I know i prefer my PS3, and hopefully MS will deliver as it did last holiday season. just play the game boys, the rest does not concern us
Microsoft will be fine (as will Sony and Nintendo). They won't exit gaming, at least not any time soon. But I think they do need to announce what is coming and give us something for it.
Please... hhg and his "crew" dont have any credibility on what they are talkin about.
Sony needs to be profitable more than they need to increase sales. Even if Sony drops their price, it will not be a $100 drop. That is suicide. Maybe a $50 drop, especially this time of year. For those that say Microsoft drops the price whenever they are desperate, they have only dropped $100 in over three years and that was in $50 increments over 2 years time. The PS3 today is $200 less than launch. It's more than hypocritical to claim Microsoft drop out of desperation when the PS3 has dropped features and prices twice as fast and twice as much. When the PS3 get's a drop, it will most likely be to $349. At that time we will probably see a $349 Elite. The Pro and Arcade probably will stay at $299 and $199. This isn't rocket science. -Death
While the 360 started out at $300~400. Sony has had a more significant price drop, but that was only to keep up with the 360's MSRP. The fact that the 360 is now priced at $199 while the PS3 is priced at $399 means that Sony has a lot more breathing room. The 360 can't get priced any lower over the next few years (lest Microsoft accepts a $150 hardware loss), while the PS3 can really put on the pressure at $249~299 in the future. It all depends on how soon a slim-line PS3 is released and whether or not Microsoft releases a slim-line 360 in order to keep up.
"For those that say Microsoft drops the price whenever they are desperate, they have only dropped $100 in over three years and that was in $50 increments over 2 years time. The PS3 today is $200 less than launch. It's more than hypocritical to claim Microsoft drop out of desperation when the PS3 has dropped features and prices twice as fast and twice as much." -Death "But the PS3 was priced at $500~600 While the 360 started out at $300~400. Sony has had a more significant price drop, but that was only to keep up with the 360's MSRP." -DJ lmfao...DJ thats the whole point, Sony was forced by the lack of consumer demand to lower the price MORE than micro has at this point, duh of course the 360 started much cheaper than ps3, lmfao because micro did not force you to pay for bluray, ironicaly even with bluray included its going to take sony to LOSE MORE money just to close the sales gap with a console thats *supposedly inferior in tech specs and does not have bluray capabilities. So even though the differential in price has DECREASED, 360 still INCREASED its NPD sales by 100,000 in January, while the ps3 NPD sales DECREASE in January. WOW, that says alot about how good the 360's games & online features really are. JOY
Were significantly lower than its figures for January 2007. Sales dipped in 2008, then rebounded because of the price drop. Same thing happened to the PS3. Its sales were down its first year, and then after the price drop they shot up. Now that there wasn't any price drop and the 360 is a lot cheaper, sales are down in January. But to put some perspective in this conversation, we're only talking about North America, which represents about 35% of the gaming market. The real question is why the 360 hasn't reached Wii-like popularity, despite being cheaper.
The Elite is $399 just like a PS3. The Pro is $299 which is $50 more than a Wii. The Arcade at $199 is $50 less than a Wii, but I'm pretty confident most people realize this is an entry level console and doesn't come with all the bells and whistles. I'm starting to belive in my heart that Playstation fans trully believe Elites cost $199. Where on earth are you getting the $150 loss per console, production costs from 2005? I'm going to go shove some needles under my finger tips for this, but here's an interesting link to VGCharts that looks at production costs. http://news.vgchartz.com/ne... -Death
Microsoft ain't dropping prices and Sony can't afford to. http://www.gamespot.com/new...
dear noob, Linking to VG charts = AUTOMATIC FAIL yours truly, The Internet
I think ms are actually running the show (forget nintendo, they offer repite care for the needy) but if you remember, Sony with the ps2 they relaxed 3-4 years in the ps2 life cycle, ms are doing the same thing. It's not the end by far. With superior 3rd party support. New Splinter cell ip, Alan wake, halo wars, Halo:odst (not even mentioning what else bungie are doing) GTA DLC to us western gamers, 2 halo games in the same year means cash cow get run dry.
but i imagine they will keep trying to emulate the PS2's success more jrpg's anyone? and Killer Instinct? but compared to Sony's big three KZ2,Uncharted2,GOW3....theres not much they can do
Release a Slim at 249 do an expansion for HALO 3
Death made a good comment at the end here. You guys have to open your eyes a bit to basic economics. The elite needs to drop but that's about it. It doesn't really offer anything over the pro version except 60 more gigs. You're still better off buying a core and then buying the 120 gig individually. All 360s come with hdmi ports now so it's practically useless to purchase a 360 for $400. Sony would be in a good move to drop it to $349 but $299 sounds a lot better. They are a lucky and fortunate company though. Only other console that ever launched for $600 was the Neo Geo and that thing dropped off the map in 9 months. If you look at basic spending, the only reason the PS3 isn't selling like hotcakes is because of the price. The games are there. I've had all systems since launch so it's practically common sense.
The 360 is still a relatively expensive product to manufacture, and $199 is the lowest MSRP they can offer it for with the current hardware configuration. If they created a slim-line 360 (akin to what Sony does), then they'd be able to dip to $149. But even that's a huge monetary loss.
You just make this stuff up as you go along don't you?
lmfao, Yes that's exactly what he does. Keep it coming hiphopgamershow, very entertaining stuff. JOY
Just a bunch of empty posts and disagrees. It's not like this is a hard subject to discuss.
Last I seen it was the Elite at $399 and Pro at $299 that actually compete against the $399 PS3. If the PS3 drops to $349, so will the Elite. A $299 PS3 simply is not realistic since they are just now breaking even at $399. The company's goal isn't to move hardware and increase losses, it's to be profitable. -Death
It's because your post was just empty numbers...nothing to back it up. Show me a legitimate link from the last 6 months showing the cost to MS to make a 360 and I'll take you seriously. Your numbers mean nothing to me.
Well when Sony can get out of LAST place, then i guess MS will have something to worry about - until then i think Sony has more reasons to worry... Like around the 8 million mark more reasons....
For clarification, 3rd place isn't really important in the over all grand scheme of things. Are Sony producing triple A titles: Yes. besides, since when does shipped count as sold?
Hmm - i am sure you have a link that clearly shows that the 28 million that MS say are sold are actually "shipped" right? Or is that just another Droid comment that your kind make to try and make it sound like proof. Your fanboyism is not recognized as facts. Also Sales DO matter as it all comes down to marketshare. The PS3's "AAA" games are far and long between each other. And according to Metacritic the 360 has more AAA games and higher rated games over the PS3. 3rd place IS a big deal - especially when you were once dominating the Market the Gen prior and are now struggling to maintain exclusives or multiplats - don't make me have to list all the once exclusive games that Sony had or have to mention all the games that were once ment to be multiplats but then due to marketshare, resources and attach-rate per console failed to be on the PS3.
@Man of the Year You get my vote.
Marketshare? Why do you even bother bringing it up with Sony shares sell for more than Microsofts lol. Your just a silly failed xbox fanboy who can't come to grips that the times are changing. There is no single console, people are becoming multi-console owners. You can cry as much as you want, the future is being shared. Just because you can't afford a PS3 doesn't mean you have to bash it because you don't have a job or attend school and sit on your ass lol.
xb!tches pound chest with one hand, polish their tiny weeny with the other hand and bark like loud obnoxious baboons about the amazing achievement that is being in 2nd place. in the mean time, we throw'em a banana and have a giant ball playing the best games on the best hardware with the self confidence that only a badass software lineup can provide. xb!tches, are you ready for your incoming killzownage? BWAAAAAAA HA HA HA HA!