"The highly anticipated first-person shooter, Killzone 2, is inching its way towards release on February 27, but there is much more to look forward to than just the game." -TheGamerAccess.com
Huzzah! Huzzah! Sorry I couldn't help myself. But anyway I'd love to see more games use the Guerilla PS3 engine. Just think of any sort of racing game using it.
The PS3 already has Gran Turismo. I do not see the Killzone 2 engine working well with a racer. Nice thinking though.
Sales are important and so far, there are not even enough pre-orders for a midnight launch. That will greatly hinder the 'exclusives' this article is talking.
The more money First party exclusives get the better for us :), means will get fresh IP's and better sequels ^_^, this applies to all consoles of course.
Could you imagine if the next Ratchet & Clank had that amazing lighting?
halo with GG engine, if only.
Anyone notice that the replay modes have 2 very good lookking modes of the alternate roof/rear cams? They have slight vignettes around them(dark circle around the edge) But they look soooo good. The framerate isn't as good as the rest of the views, but I think thats what they were showing off. Also, in the GG interviews one of the Technical Directors says "Dont be suprised if you see upcoming racing games using this technology" -losely quoted. Gran turismo looks amazing as it is, but checkout those views in the replay mode, if the entire game looked like that.. I'd piss myself.
Sales won't necessarily hinder exclusivity. The Killzone 2 engine was specifically engineered for the PS3. It is property of Sony and was built by Guerrilla with great assistance from Sony engineers. Killzone 2 wasn't just a game. It was also a PS3 R&D project. Several white papers have been published to date with more to follow including a keynote at GDC. Usability isn't just a matter of licensing. A great engine is useless without a tool suite. A lot will ride on that factor. The Warhound engine wasn't licensed due to lack of tools. The same is true for the Doom III engine seeing only a little employment. I would say Sony and Guerrilla actions point to continued usage so likely tools were built. If Sony were to offer that engine for free to people building PS3 titles and the engine is user friendly then you will see a flood of titles built for a console that will bust 30 million before the end of the calendar year.
I know what views you are talking about. I love it. Looks exactly like a camera on a real race car. Anyway, thats not deferred rendering. Guerilla made their engine backwards in a sense, most engines (example, Source, UE3) have a global light, in which other light sources are added, then processed to create shadows. GG on the other hand, they created an engine that is based on shadows. They add light sources, and the engine processes the lights, so the shadows become more dynamic and easily manipulated with movement. That is deferred rendering my friend.
Hahahhahahaha hahahahahaha more Exclusive's.Also Killzone 2 Game engine only supports Grey so no one will be interested when most of the Developers in the world use Unreal Engine.
the UE3 is old now you dumbass, they should of made Ps2 games with that engine EDIT: Oh! sorry, i have been informed that the UE3 was originally designed for the NES, sorry my bad
i know why you do not want any more exclusives from kilzone. because you know your pos 360 want run it. and the fact that you are so busy looking up sales and money information tells me you have no games for your 360. why dint you go buy you a ps3 so you can be a gamer again and not a sales record person.
actually happen,, and it would only means more good looking games for us gamers. I can only hope developers would do so :)
I agree. The only thing there are very few developers that will invest 50 million USD and 4 years like KZ2 had. I just is not realistic. One can dream though.
I fully agree. The big counter-argument against the graphics of Killzone 2 is how long it took to develop. However if they license the engine...it is worth much more than the time and money that was put into it. If they go down the route of bigger cell for the ps4, then the engine can just be given a bit of a revamp and they will get a lot of mileage out of it. I really hope that they do license the engine, or even just parts of it.
Be sure to name a title that you would like to see use the Killzone 2 engine. Ill start off by saying Resistance because lets say I want to play a more fast paced shooter, I could play Resistance and still have these amazing visuals and gameplay elements.
Crack me up fishy =D bubs you too nick. I would like to see something a little brighter is all... The atmosphere looks great for KZ2 I just like maybe something like COD4 pallet running on that engine. Bionic Commando or something.
Grand Theft Auto would be pretty crazy with that engine as well but I doubt the PS3 would be powerful enough for that. Killzone 2 quality buildings, vehicles, weather effects,moving people, and all the other stuff.
This sounds like a really crazy idea but I would love to see a Medievil game on PS3 using the Guerilla engine. A Pursuit Force game on PS3 using the engine would be great too.
Twisted Metal... or a Destruction Derby sequel.....
Absolutely. Twisted Metal would be a perfect fit for this engine. That would be amazing.
teenage mutant ninja turtle (4 players of course), Bomberman, Metal Slugs, Raiden (airplane game), Double Dragon, Final Fight, Contra. hmm wut am i missing.. think that's all I can think of for now that I would like to see. Although I would prefer other devs building even better engines so that my eyes can fall out do to goodness of quality.
"Big Rigs 2: Over the Road, Under the Bridges, Through the Buildings, Straight up the Mountains, and Into the Abyss Racing" Or abbreviated "Big Rigs 2: Your Winner"
you don't wanna dumb it down for crappy consoles [email protected] that edit: below "Just look at Gears of War 2" i've looked at gears1/2 many many times and since my head is out of my ass, my eyes can see crystal clear the undeniable truth: killzone 2 OBLITERATES gears 2 it's not even the same league: period now you can give all the "non-fanboy" politically correct bullsh!t you want, it doesn't change this HARD HARD FACT.
If you are talking about the Xbox 360 you are clearly a fanboy. Xbox 360 has a great video game library and argubly a better online service than PSN. The Xbox 360 is capable of amazing graphics as well. Just look at Gears of War 2.
http://i39.tinypic.com/2i77... best graphics ever even the youtube vid of KZ2 embarrasses x360's entire gaming lineup
You can never tell if you don't try. Have you tried? Didn't think so.
I have played the MP BETA which was incredible and KZ2 has 93% at meta. so that should give u an idea. Had the game been nothing less than stellar then it would have been shafted by reviewers Most eu websites term KZ2 as the best fps ever U cant even name a 360 game cuz all look like crap vs KZ2
I never said that Gears of War 1 and 2 are in the same league but it still has amazing graphics. The 360 is capable of amazing graphics as well is a great console.
You guys having a laugh, or what, how come when sony get a jewel you lot ruin it, i cant imagine how the network play is going to be like on this game. Foul mouthed youts f=giving it the biggun then go to skool and get robbed by the real bully's Unreal 3 is the best middleware there is out there at the moment, source a close second, sony will have to do alot of licensing to get develpoers to using this tech on games whic will come to the xbox. Sad but true my pedigree chums.
@ Fingaz WTF you talking about man. My lord learn to clearly write a sentence.
I already said in another thread, I'd love to see what Infinity Ward could do with the Killzone engine. Which brings me to another point... Team ICO... what is Team ICO's game going to look like?
Gimmie some news on this game already. I'm dieing here. :'(
We should know by GDC. :)
The graphics for TeamICO's new game will melt your face off.
nick if xbox has a better online service then why does it have the same amount of users as PSN you only have gears series that are good graphically on xbox this year shows that ps3 has the better games and shows its going to be just a multi plat and DLC for xbox feel sorry for you o yeh killzone 2 makes gears looks like a ps2 game everyone knows kz2 sh!ts on all xbox games dont be a fool mate buy a ps3
KZ2 simply embarrasses all console games I think Heavy Rain/Uncharted 2 might challenge it in the future but all x360 games look like PS1 games like KZ2 just no way to refute that even most of PS3's own games get embarrassed by KZ2
Because you are looking at the number of 360 gold members which requires the $50 a year while PSN is free and anyone can make an account.
Another open world game would be nice with this engine, everything from the textures to the lighting used in the killzone engine is pretty nice.
I hate your avatar. I hate that guy from CSI. He bugs the crap out of me, he's always so overly serious with his ridiculous tone and the way he glares at people. I wanna punch him.
LOL I feel the same way
You leave Horatio out of this. Or you both going down (in grumbled voice).
I hate how he keeps fiddling with his shades on every episode
on the Killzone 2 engine? That would rock, huh?
WOW. That would be crazy!!!
That would be f'n AWESOME!!
...plus changed to a FPS with bots. FTW. And add in Resistance 3 & MAG while you are at it. sht. Really waant some more info on MAG.
omg warhawk with does visual i'am already addicted ,i would lose sleep if that happened .
Hell yeah it would!!
i more interested in seeing how jak 4 will look like with the uncharted engine. i think a lot of sony's new ips will be using the kiz-engine.
Jak 4 + Uncharted Engine = Pure Win.
I would like to see a Call of Duty game using the Killzone 2 engine, but I dont think Sony would let a multiplatform game use the Killzone 2 engine. Maybe they will use it when they release the next Socom, or how about a new Warhawk,or a new Syphon Filter.
Yeah because if they used the engine, the game COULDN'T BE multiplatform. You really think other systems could handle this?
Considering how much money they have poured into Guerilla. So expect quite a few games to use this engine.
GG is owned by Sony. GG is a 1st party dev. SCEA Santa Monica helped GG with their engine. That's what Sony 1st party devs do.
Let's put it this way, Polyphony Digital, a subsidiary of Sony and creators of Gran Turismo. Did you ever see the engine used in any other games other than GT? So Sony owns everything Guerrilla Games make.
Guerrilla Games IS owned by Sony.
tourist trophy used it, but it was made by polyphony!
I'm not sure if the engine for a racing game is very applicable to the requirements for many other action or shooter games. So that would explain why that hasn't been used in the past.
i would love to see resistance 2 use this engine and i hope that resistance 3 would 2! that would be my dream game!
This would have been exciting if Guerilla said it. As it is, the author feels the game engine will bring exclusives if other devs want to use the engine for the PS3 only. This kind of makes sense since it was developed for the PS3 and would probably not work without significant retooling for other platforms. My question for the author would be, how does a PS3 only engine bring in developers if they are already PS3 devs to begin with? Multi-platform development exists since third party devs wan to cater to the largest possible audience. I don't see them dumping a larger audience just so they can use the Killzone or any other engine. As middleware gets better, games get better. This is the natural evolution of games on any given platform. This also applies to middleware that third parties use for multi-platform development. If the Killzone 2 engine was a multi-platform engine, there would be a better chance of other devs using it for their games. As it is, the only ones that would be interested in a PS3 only engine would be PS3 only devs. So far the really good ones already have their own engines that they are using. -Death
No, no, no, they got it all wrong... PS3 to Bring In More Exclusives. KZ2 is just the beginning. Every coming 1st/2nd party exclusive will bring more attention to the power our black beauty has under the hood.
It's such a shame that we can't see this engine being used on a Xbox 360.. The games could look even better.
The GG engine was built for the PS3 and the Cell processor so it can't run on the 360.
You mean worse. The 360 already has frame rate issues in some portions in Gears of War 2, an engine built for the 360.