Killzone 2 demo disappoints, will the full game follow suit?

The demo of Killzone 2 is finally out and, while there are reviews already pouring out for this game, we figured that it was worth giving our own opinion on what we've played anyway. Quentyn from AnalogHype.com treads through his thoughts on the demo, with absolutely no fluff to get in the way.

[blackboyunltd]

and the ps3 will flop right after and so will god of flop 3!

[Bathyj]

oooo look whose got nothing to play just like last year.

F*k off idiot.

[pwnsause]

yea its going to disappoint, that's why the metacritic score is above 90...Stupid. Do yourself a favor and go masturbate to a blow up doll.

[rucky]

Hey pp

[Helghast Slayer]

LOL the haters keep popping up with different names. How's this for a flop, killzone 2 is played almost every day by the people on my friends list and it's a pretty long list.

The xbrat extremists don't have a single AAA game worth playing for almost half this year and possibly the rest. Keep hoping KZ2 will fail and as for GOW3? well lets just say i expect a lot of 360 extremist to be found without a brain in their basements.

[cryymoar]

bu bu but DLC..

/idiot xbot

So uh, whats everyone's PSN so we can play KZ2 at launch?

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

You are full of win today. That was beautiful.

[redsquad]

If the concept of good games on ALL systems terrifies you into making such infantile statements then I feel sorry for you.
Seriously, your life must be so feeble and worthless to spend SO MUCH of your time rubbishing something you do not and never will own.

I mean LOOK AT YOU! Taking time out of your life to continually bleat the same banal rubbish over, and over, and over... It's like apes throwing their own excrement in a zoo.

Do you honestly believe that's the behavior of a 'normal person'? Do you think you're achieving something? Do you believe you have a 'great mission' and are some sort of champion of the gaming world?

You used to make me angry (I know, I should have known better), but now I just boggle at your childishness. Take a deep breath, step back and think about what you're doing - You MAY come to realize what an enormous fool you're making of yourself.

[chewy317]

LOL! Fking Xbots are all celebrating now! Who the hell approved this article, this article is so full of fail, an article about the killzone 2 demo disappointing? DISAPPOINT WHO?? WHO IS DISSAPOINTED BY THE DEMO LOLOLOL

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

Best Demo Ever!!! ;-P

[jlouis]

All xbox lovers wish that the games they can't own will flop. Because that just means that you bought the wrong console, and don't have the money to get the best.

[Bits-N-Kibbles]

please take this ignorant child's bubbles

[terrandragon]

I like how people automatically assume that it's a Xbot.

[thebudgetgamer]

tell that to the people that played that 7 minute demo 20 to 30 times already. me being one of them

:)

edit:i know not everyone is not going to like things you like but i can respect people that bring viable points to their argument, and not just be angry and hateful.

below: once i shot a barrel it flew and hit on of the helghan right in the face

[Cwalat]

i've been playing the demo for 200 times now.

wtf are they talking about, "not good" ?

in the warehouse.. kill all helghast without exploading a barrell..
before you finish the demo... go back down to the warehouse and have experiments with the barrels.

i once shot a larger barrell... it flew up like a rocket... circulated the area... came back on me from behind.. and i blew up to the top of the roof where the guy with the SG14 was standing...

i dont know bout you ppl, but i had a blast playing the demo

[Trollimite]

WHO IN GODS NAME WAS DISSAPOINTED. i played the same demo 1000 times and it stll feels new this article is a shame

[arika]

i am a fan of fps games. i have played a lot of first person shooters namely: half life 1 & 2, cod 3 & 4 and fear 1 and when i played the demo(played it 50 times already) of killzone 2, it just blew every single fps game that i know out of the water. it took everything that is good on other shooters and added some original touches with cover system, great story and of course an absolutely stunning graphics engine that is unparalleled by any game on any console and you have a game that went above and beyond the hype and become the first game of the year contender as what most review sites have stated.

[Kushan]

I play a LOT of FPS games and I didn't think it was anything particularly special, either.
I know I'm going to get a million disagrees for even saying such a thing, but it's only my little opinion and nothing to get bent out of shape for.
It really didn't do anything for me, it was very short and I didn't see anything particularly revolutionary in there. Even the cover system has been done before in lesser games, but apart from that, it felt like yet ANOTHER FPS.
Looked good, though.

[N4Sony]

when it's pro-Sony.

Of course, this individual's opinion obviously has been influenced by Bill's bank account. It could be the only explaination for his dissapointment with the Killzone 2 demo. Now, I do disagree. I think the Killzone 2 demo is freaking amazing and truthfully I've played the demo around 10 full times. However, because this man doesn't like it as much as the rest of us, let's crucify him. Only on N4G. However, when he comes out and says that Halo Wars, or some 360 exclusive is garbage, he'll be carried through the halls of Sony headquarters by 80% of N4G on a golden Emperor's seat.

[thebudgetgamer]

at least you voiced reason and didnt just go for the killzone sucks or something stupid

:)

[Aaron Greenterd]

Thank you for being such a loyal customer, and thank you for pretending that you have a PlayStation 3 so you can make yourself look like a gamer. You and I both know by the way you spend those MS points, there's no possible way you could afford a ps3, and even if you could, your emotional well-being depends on your Live activity and the belief that your system is the best. We all know that if this "yet ANOTHER FPS" was on the 360 your eyes would be red-ringing until the 27th.

By the way, here is the memo I sent to these guys regarding Killzone 2:

http://farm4.static.flickr....

[Kushan]

@thebudgetgamer

Thanks - I'm trying to be as diplomatic as possible there (I wouldn't say "Killzone 2 sucks" because a) I'm more tactful than that and b) I don't think it sucks at all, it just didn't WOW me as much as it did others), I'm glad someone appreciates it lol

[sonarus]

There is no delay with the controls at least not on mine. I have heard the delay is limited to certain consoles...i have no idea. All i know is the demo i played had no delay. You can say it turns slow but turning slow DOES NOT mean delay

[Kushan]

"Thank you for being such a loyal customer, and thank you for pretending that you have a PlayStation 3 so you can make yourself look like a gamer. You and I both know by the way you spend those MS points, there's no possible way you could afford a ps3, and even if you could, your emotional well-being depends on your Live activity and the belief that your system is the best. We all know that if this "yet ANOTHER FPS" was on the 360 your eyes would be red-ringing until the 27th."

Hey Aaron, this is for you: http://i43.tinypic.com/2v2a...

(Ignore my piss poor handwriting).

What's that? A PS3? But I couldn't POSSIBLY own one! Hell I couldn't even afford one!
And yes that's Halo 3 sitting under LBP, I put it there for posterity.

Try again, Aaron, you utter Failure.

[Oner]

I know I am going to get no end of crap for this but here goes....

Video clearly showing the timed based delay issue
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

And another
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

And a perfect example of unwarranted re-adjustments @ 1:23 - 1:32 but specifically at 1:27-1:32
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

And a comparison to Resistance 2 on how much sharper the response time is
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Sorry guys, but I am one of the people who clearly feel, see & notice the issue. I am not saying nor believe KZ2 sucks or is bad in any way shape or form, but the controls are not up to my standards and it detracts from the immersion/experience enough that I have to really re-think me picking up my already paid for in full pre-order and rent it to see if it is addressed or just in the demo build.

Please understand I am not a bot, I am not trying to crap on GG, Sony or anything else in that manner. I am 100% honestly bummed that the controls aren't accurate in it's implementation. I personally don't believe it is about the weight characteristic or it's mechanics (though I have to comment that why does the Handgun or Knife feel like the Rocket Launcher or a fully loaded Rifle?). Simply there is a timed based delay that affects the start point and the end point when you release; as if it starts 250ms later it will end 250ms later as well affecting all subsequent re-adjustments. The last thing about this I have to say is this would only be an improvement and would not change or hurt the game at all. It would just tighten up the response time when you input an action so the weight and feel will still be there thus the game will be the same but the re-action will be tighter.

I truly wish to enjoy this great title but if it's not fun to me then I cannot rightfully spend my money on it and will have to cash out my paid in full pre-order payment. Especially if it is still evident in the full retail version just as it has been proven in numerous videos of the demo already.....But again I have to stress and let it be known that I whole heartedly want the game to succeed in every way...even if without my enjoyment or contribution.

Edit: I have to add this

Earlier today I finished my 7th or 8th re-download of KZ2 (as suggested on the PS Forums) on my secondary PS3 (20gb) and this last download seems to have a better response time (weird I know)...so I might not have to cancel my fully paid pre-order just yet from GS. I will probably rent it to see first then if it is acceptable to me I'll pick up my copy. Which I really want to be able to do as I don't want to miss out on this game.

[thebudgetgamer]

what is that next to your ps3?

above i have personally not had the lag people are complaining about not saying you are wrong just never happened

edit: i see it now i was talking about the bob blu-ray at first glance i thought i was a piece of electronics but that's cause i am blind

[25]

the only thing that disappointed me in the demo is that it ended too quickly. I've had fun just shooting those gas canisters and died intentionally so that i could kill more higgs.

[Kushan]

thebudgetgamer: TO the left of the PS3 is the Band of Brother's Blu-ray box set, Under the PS3 is a SONY sound system for my 5.1 and to the right are a couple of games (Little big planet obviously and under that is Halo 3). I think that disk you see on the right is the first disk to the Matrix (DVD only, I'm afraid).
And underneith is the mass of cables that connects that stuff together with my 360, PC, printer and God knows what else.

EDIT: At Aaron below:

I'm being a "d!ick" about PS3 games? Now how did you come to that conclusion based on the fact that all I said was that Killzone 2 didn't "wow" me? I even stated that I didn't think it "sucked" or anything, just that it didn't do anything for me. Adding to that, I also stated that it was MY opinion and nothing more - would you rather I stated YOUR opinion as if it was my own? Would that make you feel better?
And yes - that IS Halo 3 sitting there and no, it's not the most amazing game ever. In fact, I've barely played the game's singleplayer and I only jump into the multiplayer maybe once every few months (right now I'm addicted to COD4 and 5) and you can check this yourself by looking at my profile - my gamertag is "neoKushan".
Other PS3 games I own - GT5: Prologue, Ratchett and Clank, Warhawk (With the headset), Resistence: FOM and Uncharted off the top of my head. The big exclusives, really. Oh and KZ2 is on preorder still.
Anything else?

Edit AGAIN: Right, so let me get this straight, you ask me questions to try and determine my motives and if I'm being genuine, then when I answer them apparently I'm being defensive? Ok then, I don't really see how that works, but whatever.
And I'm not trolling anything, all I ever post is a little fact and some opinion, which are clearly defined. Anything I've said about KZ2 has usually been along the lines of "so what if this magazine gave it x out of 10, they're not wrong, they just had a differing opinion". That's all this is - opinion, you're free to think KZ2 is the best game ever, I wont stop you, but the reality is that the best game ever for you might not be the best game ever for someone else.
The reason I've still got it on preorder is because although I don't necessarily think it's going to be the "best game ever", I do think it's going to be a decent game. As I said above, I play a lot of FPS games, but if I only played the FPS games that bettered all in their genre at the time, I'd have only played maybe 5 games this last decade.
And Halo wouldn't have been one of them.

There's a big big difference between not liking something and not thinking something is the best thing in the whole wide world.

Final edit: Do you know how many achievement points I have on Halo 3? 95. 95 out of 1750. Clearly, I do love Halo a lot.

[Aaron Greenterd]

I couldn't help but noticing Halo 3 in that picture.

Can Killzone 2 be a good game? Or is Halo 3 the most revolutionary FPS game evar?

Please stop trying to be Mr. Anti-hype, if you stop trying to be a d1ck about ps3 games maybe you can start to enjoy them.

What other ps3 games have you got?

Edit Getting awfully defensive Kushan, by the way you are reacting I would say I am right. Why do you feel the need to troll every KZ2 thread then? You've made your opinion heard, go back to Halo 3 and Live and tell yourself everything will be ok.

Why would someone preorder Killzone 2 if every chance they get they are downplaying it to anyone who will listen? If you don't like it, then don't buy it, cause in a month you will be here telling all who will listen how you had to trade KZ2 in because it wasn't all that.

EDIT # 2 Kushan: you have three (3) ps3 trophies, yet your Gamerscore is 11,047......yeah, you are the pinnacle of unbiased gaming. we should all see you for the unbiased, independant gamer that you are.

dude, i rest my freakin case. another stealth fanboy exposed.

[Morgan Webb of Lies]

I think i was wrong about ps3 users needing anti-depressants.

i now believe that 360 users need them, because obviously they are having a hard time that KZ2 is only on ps3.

start medicating guys, it doesn't get any better from here on out.

[Ldubbz]

Aaron you are a troll, and you need to go back under that bridge from which you came. Only a real loser would use that name and avatar, and then go and attack people that ARE VOICING OPINION! Kushan isnt some moron devoid of rational thought like yourself. You obviously lead a worthless existence.

Kushan, cheers to you and Oner for voicing your honest opinions without fanboyism. Its too bad that this site is full of 13-year old trolls that dont know how to read or write complete thoughts.

[incogneato]

Agreed. Disappoints who exactly? Some queer trying to make a sensational headline so idiots on N4G will hit his site? Lol. Pathetic.

[Aaron Greenterd]

way to post and then give yourself agrees, as if anyone agrees with you.

i clearly exposed Kushan for the stealth 360 fanboy troll that he is. yes, i am a troll, but my intentions are clear.

when you only have 3 ps3 trophies, but your Gamerscore is in the tens of thousands, i find it hard to believe that you are unbiased, and it is very disingenuous that you are going to act like you are giving an honest opinion.

i would also point out that you are a troll just like i am, so why you are sitting on your high horse acting like you are better than me is simply preposterous. you hate me because you hate the ps3, plain and simple.

[pixelsword]

"...and I think my site is popular enough so I can whine and Sony'll see it, then I'll get one so I can review it early and seem important".

At any rate, read the article; the guy complains about the sluggishness of the controls, then he cranks them up to max sensitivity (what he said) and complained it was too fast for him. Anyone else see a very pointless reason for complaining?

Other than that, it's a pretty good article.

Gun weight adds strategy because guns actually have weight in real life. That's why there's often specialists on the battlefield: not every gun feels the same, has the same balance, recoil, etc. You can't just pick up any gun and just start firing; some guns have a caliber that'll make you knock yourself out with the gun if you don't know what you're doing, and some guns are heavy to the point that some people inexperienced with a weapon like that will hold it at waist-high or on a strap the whole time instead of firing from a proper standing position.

I dunno; I didn't see it as a bad thing myself, just an attention to detail; maybe i'll go and look at it again.

[pixelsword]

The demo of Killzone 2 is finally out and, while there are reviews already pouring out for this game, we figured that it was worth giving our own opinion on what we've played anyway. Quentyn from AnalogHype.com treads through his thoughts on the demo, with absolutely no fluff to get in the way. Please note: rumors and reports are stating that the demo version is not as close to the final build of the game as the version shown at CES 2009. With that in mind, check out the impressions after the jump!

So, I preordered Killzone 2 with just one thing in mind: the demo. I didn't want to go through the trouble of making a European account, and 5 dollars down on a game is very expendable and easily retractable. February 5th inched near and I hit the marketplace running. I downloaded the Killzone 2 demo in a record 10 minutes (which is amazing considering that it's taken me hours to download demos and certain game updates that noone is probably even accessing.) All of that aside, though, I fire up the demo and I'm ready to go.

You only have one difficulty option, the eqivalent to "Normal" in most games, and you are able to choose between a number of different control configurations and options. The default controls for Killzone 2 are a little awkward after playing your Call of Dutys, Resistance 2s, Socoms, etc, so I quickly changed the control scheme to Alt 2 to mimick the Call of Duty scheme more. so I take these controls into the game and they are very much adaptable right away. All of this is referring to th ergonomics, though. When it comes to the feel of the controls, however, it becomes a love it or hate it type thing. Guerilla Games introduces "weight": the idea that, heavy guns take time to maneuver. From the second I press a direction on my analog stick to the animation carrying out, there is a very noticeable delay.

Some will argue that this delay makes the game more realistic and sets itself apart from other FPSs that uses "twitch controls", but others will despise it. Personally, I think it's a piece of crap "feature" that really takes away from the intensity of the game and adds to the frustration. I understand how you could justify the heavy controls for aiming and moving, but there is a delay for nearly everything I do: including pulling the trigger. A friend suggested that I maximize the sensitivity of the controls, but all this accomplished was even more frustration as my line of sight zoomed right past my target in my attempt to line up the shot. Needless to say, I feel that this really cripples the game. Imagine trying to play multiplayer with such a control interface: how can this truly work without posing some very concerning problems?

Aside from all of that, though, the rest of the game holds up in its standards. The hit detection is amazing, the graphics are everything Sony and GG said they'd be, and the sounds are amazing. Killzone 2 presents a truly immersive experience and atmosphere that games in the current generation can only hope to match. Here's something to try: turn off all hints, crosshairs, On Screen Display items, and go in with nothing but the sight of your gun and the will to kill. It is one of the most exhilerating experiences you can find on consoles. The world is fully realized with textures that are as crisp as a fresh haircut and particle effects that could PROBABLY rival Hollywood.

The actual demo is rather short as I was able to complete it in just over 5 minutes. It did just what it was supposed to do, though: it made me want more. Killzone 2 is looking like THE milestone AAA title of the year, but seeing as how this is just a demo we cannot fully pass judgment on the game. If you're looking for a video game review, this is not it, but we just like to share with you guys when we think something is doper than dope itself. Look out for Killzone 2 on February 27th in the United States.

[Kushan]

Ok then, I'll bite. How long has the 360 had achievements? Since Launch.
How long has the PS3 had trophies? Since July of last year.
How many of the games did I list that I own actually have Trophy support? I think LBP is the only one, the point is I've not went back to play the others much since I already finished them, so hell if I know if they have trophy support added later or not.
I also forgot that I owned Wipeout HD, thanks for reminding me (Long time Wipeout fan here).

Now what exactly is your point? That I play my 360 more than my PS3? Well...that's true. I do. I've had the 360 longer, I've got more games on it and it is my console of choice for multi-platforms purely since most of my friends own a 360 and not a PS3. What, do you think I should tell my own friends to go to hell just because I don't own as many games on my PS3 and could do with bolstering the collection a bit? I don't think it works like that. In the end, I don't see a lot of differences between the consoles to care which one the game is on, I've got both so it doesn't matter.

What about you? Do you own a 360? Do you have an equal sized gamerscore and trophy collection? Do you show absolutely no bias towards either? I don't think so.

Your original comment claimed that I wasn't a "real gamer", yet I own both consoles and have a good selection of the big exclusives on both (I'm missing Resistance 2 and SOCOM on the PS3 - last Christmas really wiped me out with so many games...oh and I don't own Haze, either...sorry), you've tried time and time again to try and prove this with tedious arguments and you've finally settled on "you've got a bigger gamerscore than you have trophies, clearly you're a troll!", do you not see how trivial your own argument is?
Is it so bad that someone...disagrees with you? Do you have trouble sleeping at night because of it? I sure as hell don't, it amuses me to no end that you've wasted your 3 bubbles trolling against me and failing miserably at it. Why not do yourself a failure and go back to bashing Microsoft, since you hate them so much?
Or are you going to create a new account called "Douchan"? That would make my day =)

[pain777pas]

STFU already with this stuff. GEEEZ!!!!!!!!!!

[GrandTheftZamboni]

As for the rifle kickback it doesn't happen instantaneously after pulling the trigger. It does in games, not when firing real weapon.

[thebudgetgamer]

for me the demo rocks.

for others not so much.

that's what matters to me

:)

[Tempist]

Control gripe aside, he had no problems. The headline is 100% misleading to what the author actually said. This is yet another case of 'Lets ride the killzone hype bandwaggon'

[mal_tez92]

This demo was incredible. While it was rather short, it is still one of the best game experiences I've ever had.

Realistically, I think I have sunk more hours into this demo than I have into GTAIV, (got bored of it in less than a week.) The "Restart last checkpoint" option is amazing, you can replay what you just did with no loading time at all. I play though the demo restarting each section 10 times before I go on and finally reach the finish.

My favourite gun is the Helghast assault rifle, followed by the ISA rifle, and I don't really like the single shot rifle. I do like popping heads with it but I prefer automatic weapons.

[pswi60]

dude give it up...Aaron owned you. LBP and Wipeout have like 70 trophies between the 2 of them, and I think you said you had Uncharted, which has 50 trophies. So out of 120 possible trophies, you have 3 from Wipeout (i wanted to see this for myself...fyi you get a trophy in Uncharted for finding one (1) treasure....one).

clearly you have no interest in the ps3 or its games, which disqualifies you from trying to have an unbiased discussion about anything related to the ps3.

it has nothing to do with whats been out longer, since you've had plenty of time to get trophies in the above games. seeing as how you don't care to, i would have to agree with Aarons interpretations of your agenda.

Aaron is the best troll on n4g for a reason, not just because he is funny, but because he can see thru people just like you. dont hate the player, hate the game.

[ThanatosDMC]

I reported it as fake cuz he's own opinion is not being true to himself.

[N4360G]

The Killzone 2 demo did everything but disappoint,Killzone 2 is only 17 days away,I can't wait!!

[TheSadTruth]

"I know I am going to get no end of crap for this but here goes....

Video clearly showing the timed based delay issue
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

And another
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

And a perfect example of unwarranted re-adjustments @ 1:23 - 1:32 but specifically at 1:27-1:32
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

And a comparison to Resistance 2 on how much sharper the response time is
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Sorry guys, but I am one of the people who clearly feel, see & notice the issue. I am not saying nor believe KZ2 sucks or is bad in any way shape or form, but the controls are not up to my standards and it detracts from the immersion/experience enough that I have to really re-think me picking up my already paid for in full pre-order and rent it to see if it is addressed or just in the demo build.

Please understand I am not a bot, I am not trying to crap on GG, Sony or anything else in that manner. I am 100% honestly bummed that the controls aren't accurate in it's implementation. I personally don't believe it is about the weight characteristic or it's mechanics (though I have to comment that why does the Handgun or Knife feel like the Rocket Launcher or a fully loaded Rifle?). Simply there is a timed based delay that affects the start point and the end point when you release; as if it starts 250ms later it will end 250ms later as well affecting all subsequent re-adjustments. The last thing about this I have to say is this would only be an improvement and would not change or hurt the game at all. It would just tighten up the response time when you input an action so the weight and feel will still be there thus the game will be the same but the re-action will be tighter.

I truly wish to enjoy this great title but if it's not fun to me then I cannot rightfully spend my money on it and will have to cash out my paid in full pre-order payment. Especially if it is still evident in the full retail version just as it has been proven in numerous videos of the demo already.....But again I have to stress and let it be known that I whole heartedly want the game to succeed in every way...even if without my enjoyment or contribution.

Edit: I have to add this

Earlier today I finished my 7th or 8th re-download of KZ2 (as suggested on the PS Forums) on my secondary PS3 (20gb) and this last download seems to have a better response time (weird I know)...so I might not have to cancel my fully paid pre-order just yet from GS. I will probably rent it to see first then if it is acceptable to me I'll pick up my copy. Which I really want to be able to do as I don't want to miss out on this game.
"

I haven't played Killzone 2 or read much on it, but it's impossible that there are "isolated" cases of controller delay.

The answer is obvious, the players that post are not skilled or intelligent enough to notice the delay. One kid cites having played Half-Life 2 and Call of Duty, wow man, that's pretty hardcore, I think my little sister has played more first person shooters than you. Most of the PS3's userbase is NOT first person shooter fans so this would explain it. They aren't using to having precise controls with no delay like PC gamers are used to. I recall playing RFOM and thinking how gross (Almost as much as halo 2) the autoaim is but when I talked to other PS3 owners they said they didn't notice it.

Today's hardcore gamers are just casual gamers with too much free time on their hands.

They obviously spend more time posting on internet forums and flaming rival consoles than actually playing games.

[motts]

Ya i played this demo so many times haha. I too switched my controls to an alternate to start, but realized that nothing beats the default setting once you adjust to the game. L2 really needs to grab cover, r1 is better for shooting on a ps3 than the trigger, and the R3 zoom is not a big deal. Because cover is so important you dont need to zoom in very fast like in most games.

[No Way]

It's quite obvious why you got those disagrees for your first post. But, for the second with the picture showing you own a PS3, I don't understand why you got disagrees.. Lol. I guess that just goes to show people only believe what they wanna see.

@Aaron Greenterd - You lose. He proved you wrong, now move on in self pity. Go cry or cut yourself.. Or, something.

[No Way]

You do realize that some people have other things to do, rather than play video games, right? And, get this.. Some people have to share their systems with other people, mainly family members. Not everyone has their systems down in their grandmas basement and get to play their PS3 24/7. I have no trophies for my account on PS3, so does that mean I can't voice my opinion about games? Dude, get the hell outta here..

[AAACE5]

Its a demo, so you know some may have issues with it. Don't let it change your decision to buy it.

[Consoldtobots]

man these fanboys and their hate for anything PS3 is really getting annoying. They pull made up excuses out of their culo and think people wont call them on it. I need to post a video of me scoring ONE BULLET HEADSHOTS from my ASSAULT RIFLE followed by a nice "STFU FANBOYS" in bold letters at the end.

[Capt CHAOS]

Kushan and Aaron announce marriage plans.

Lol, you guys are at each other. Bubbles to you Kushan, Aaron, get over it.

[SL1M DADDY]

And then willing enough to write an article about is a complete idiot. Hope they read this 'cause they need to know that their words are good for one thing, printing off on paper and wiping one's rear with 'em.

[Oner]

@ TheSadTruth ~ I totally agree. I myself am a prime example to use in this situation of how it is noticeable to someone with experience, and not just for gaming but with firearms as well...see I used to work in a local Gun Shop and have tried & used MANY different kinds of weapons ranging from a 4 inch super concealable .22 Magnum cartridge Revolver to semi automatic Shotguns and all the way up to fully automatic weapons like an M16 rifle fully decked out or even an M60 rifle in 7.62mm fashion.

Now my expertise in Gaming is not something to be laughed at either. I have been gaming for nearly 30 years, I am a more than capable and experienced FPS shooter having played in some CAL Tournaments in CS along with having run and moderated quite a few Servers as well. Now there are more games than just CS for the PC that I have played (some Unreal, AVP's, Combat Arms, Americas Army, Farcry, Half Life and other Steam titles & etc.) but you get the point. I have also played many different console titles over the years including the Halo line, Gears, COD, MGS, Uncharted, Some Splinter Cell, Some Ghost Recon, Some Socom, Golden Eye N64 & Perfect Dark and many, many more.

Basically almost anything ranging from old school arcades to home consoles like the Vectrex on thru the PS3 and PC gaming. PLUS I have been moderating/cultivating the console section of a huge Tech Site for over 7 years now. I am an educated man (not a child) and business owner in the field of Computer Repair who can express himself clearly and not just with flames or insults. So for those who may question me believe me when I say there is SOMETHING of concern going on that needs to be looked at or adjusted. It is not about downing KZ2, GG or even Sony for that matter as I am a DEFINITIVE Sony supporter and have ALL the proof I can provide to those who would say other wise.

Look people, all that I am saying along with the many others in the Official Sony Forums and everywhere else around the net is that there is proof showing the issue and can it be adjusted. It will not affect the weight characteristic as it seems to be localized to a timed based issue that when you do X action it takes X time to start to do so. Just as the videos I posted earlier clearly show. That specifically is unrealistic, not anything about the weight or anything else trying to make this game a "twitch shooter". Which by the way is an improper term as a Console game can NEVER be a twitch shooter because of controller limitations anyone who has played any Unreal on the PC will and can attest to that. So those who claim COD4 is a twitch shooter on the 360 or PS3 are sorely mistaken and goes to show their misunderstanding of the situation.

But anyway back on topic...I want to make something abundantly clear. I am not trying to argue or imply KZ2 does not deserve all of it's accolades or crap on it's amazing gameplay in it's design, AI, graphics or anything like that. Simply there are people out there who have a valid point with proof to support their findings. Whereas those who say they don't have the issue haven't shown anything to show otherwise...and when they do or have done so their video has been shown to have the same issue explained.

As I said before though, let it be known that I whole heartedly want the game to succeed in every way...even if without my enjoyment or contribution. Sucks for me I know, but that is not to say I want GG or Sony to fail. Lastly I would like to ask if you are going to flame or cannot hold a proper conversation for discussion please refrain from posting insults or whatever at me or who ever. It's not going to do anything other than show ones immaturity and derail the topic. Thank You.

[Doppy]

It was too short, and more like a tutorial, but the majority of the people liked it just, because they got a taste of the game. This game is going to sell regardless.

[madpuppy]

That is a great series and I really need to grab a copy of the series.

[Homicide]

I played the demo twice and deleted it. I'm sorry, but the demo was very disappointing.

[xwabbit]

Lol what i loved most of this thread wasn't the article, it was the discussion of Aron and kushan Lol

Btw Homicide your in the club of fan boys with pimp614, whythis and agent vx

[Groo]

i've played the demo myself about 15 times lol. i must admit though, the first time the controls did feel wierd to me and it took me a little bit to get use to them and adjust, but after i got a feel for them i like it! I can't wait for this game!!!!!

[madpuppy]

So was the demo for Uncharted: drakes fortune when I played it, Now, it is one of my favorite games.

[cayal]

This is going to end well...

[blackboyunltd]

killzone 2 will disapoint like everything else in the playstation world

[Aclay]

"killzone 2 will disapoint like everything else in the playstation world "

LOL, Judging by Killzone 2's initial reviews, it's FAR from disappointing. ;)

[BkaY]

straight to the ignore list.... good job...

[redsquad]

Only because your mindset is predisposed to that opinion - You've repeated your own brainwashing mantra for so long that you believe it.
You're only kidding yourself you know, chum!

[madpuppy]

for commenting on a Sony news article that has nothing to do with a 360 troll.

[Ps_alm3k]

will it disappoint your mom????
just a question......

edit: if you were being sarcastic....then sorry..
my mom thought killzone 2 look nice
but do who care??? right???

[ogwilson]

Seriously? Was that the best you could do?

[MicroSony4Life]

Dude do you know how stupid you sound.

[Bathyj]

"Killzone 2 is looking like THE milestone AAA title of the year,"

How is THAT disappointing?

[ogwilson]

Milestone, not THE title to have. Try to read more carefully.

[Bathyj]

So, you dont even make sense.

It still means its awesome and therefore NOT disappointing, unless you actually were expecting Jesus's resurrection.

[cryymoar]

OG, that was stupid.
Any milestone is a game to have.
unless, you wana keep playing the same game over and over again. Halo 3, Gears 2.
oh wait, they're making a halo RTS...
pffffffffff HAHAHAHAHA a halo RTS! that's a good one.

[thegreatone]

The title makes it sound like they didn't like the demo but the review says otherwise. Strange.

[thebudgetgamer]

but i think some people expected a happy ending when they finished the demo

:)

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

They wanted a happy ending?

What is this...a massage parlor?

[iiraymoii]

Damn..their feelings must have been hurt by how good this game is. lol. There is not anything wrong with this game..its AAA.

[ogwilson]

The demo ended so abruptly as well. I mean I didn't expect a HAPPY ending, but I expected one to remember.

[thebudgetgamer]

enough to be in awe, and short enough to make you want more

:)

[Kyur4ThePain]

Were you expecting a beginning, middle and ending to a story in a game demo?

[Max Power]

with thebudget, i wasn't expecting it to end so soon, but i wasn't upset that it did. It gave me enough to want to keep playing it, so much so i replayed that demo 20 times.

[XXXRATED]

it at a new level AAAA

[DevilsJoker]

The demo disappointed?

[Playa7970]

wow you know when a game is big when you review the demo for it killzone 2 ftw!!!!!!!!!!!

[MGOelite]

killzone 2 will not flop, it already has about 2.5million pre orders so it will definatly beat gears of war 2 first week sales

[KeemJ]

I heard there was a delay between the shoot button and the game actually shooting

[OOG]

I was disappointed by the demo... but because it was short... and I wanted to see more... and the input lag kinda sucked on my end at least.... but the game seems to be solid and fun...

Im sure if they wanted to they could of had a better demo tho

[Arknight]

Sounds like you heard wrong Keemj...the game is flawless.....I can play it over and over and continue to find little details that I missed before.

[Mr Tretton]

The demo is keeping me from finishing other games I've been meaning finish before KZ2 comes.

[Ghyst]

I enjoyed it, have the game preordered, no stupid article is going to persuade me, ign already told me the game is over 9, and i'm being serious, lol. eurogamer giving it a 9 was icing on the cake.

This game will own!

[divideby0]

"changes controls to mimic COD"....stopped reading right there....no need to read any further...

another one who wants the game to be something its not intended to be...

all these COD luvers...go back to playing COD and enjoy the unrealistic gameplay and skating on top of surfaces...

this dude is one of the KZ bashers from 2 years ago..just seeing what a fool he was to bash a game years before it comes out

[OOG]

yeah changing the controls to cod/resistance ones is pretty easy... even tho standard 1 seems to work the best I find ... for SP at least...

[Rythrine]

Yeah, me too. After trying out all the controls, I was comfortable with "Standard 1" than the others. I had a hard time zooming with the L1 when I'm holding L2 for cover.

[ActionBastard]

It's garbage. I've played it 30 times at it keeps getting worse. Shooting helmets off the enemy and watching the death animations? Lame. Blowing up that bridge? Lame. Entering the silo and listening to the Helghast soldiers talk about the breech, only to grenade the sh!t outta them? Lame. Yep, I'm uber disappointed. BRB...going to play the demo.

[MetalNCarnet]

I shower you with bubbles for putting a smile on my face.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

That was beautiful.

[arika]

i know one thing for sure. this post is an epic fail like most of the doom and gloom articles that tries to depict ps3 as a "dead on arrival" console. the only person who is going to be disappointed is the writer because aside from kissing some azzes, nobody is going to believe his article and if there is some who do they are mostly fanboys, so it doesn't count.

[evolution54]

The demo is already being experienced by thousands of PS3 gamers and they should have a general knowledge of whether the demo sucked or not. Now if these people had exclusive demo gameplay time then okay, but they played the same demo we got to and I'm sure a lot of people will say that it does not disappoint. Either way I have a feeling that a lot of people are scared because Feb. 27 is slowing creeping up....

[hexmex357]

I did not read the article and I smell Bullsh@t!!!!!

[knightoftears]

The only change I wish the demo had was more of it. As with every game there are people who don't like it, so let them. Not that the millions who will purchase it really care. Reviews shouldn't make you buy a game. YOU should make you by a game if you like it. Every game has it's flaws, and because this game is so high profile any little thing people see will be highlighted to no end. Give it a rest.

[Playa7970]

besides there is nothing in that article thats bad..... all he complains about is the controls... which will be fixed in the final

[Petraeus]

After reading the article I wonder how many of YOU did...and how many are flaming the title only.

Last bit of the article.....

"The actual demo is rather short as I was able to complete it in just over 5 minutes. It did just what it was supposed to do, though: it made me want more. Killzone 2 is looking like THE milestone AAA title of the year, but seeing as how this is just a demo we cannot fully pass judgment on the game. If you're looking for a video game review, this is not it, but we just like to share with you guys when we think something is doper than dope itself."

Sounds like he wasn't very dissapointed.... more like laughing at all of you.

[OOG]

yeah I read that to..... people on here get defensive tho... u should know that

[ActionBastard]

I think it's the 5 paragraphs before the final ass kissing one that people take issue with. From length, to lag, to having to change the control scheme, the "disappointments" are, in fact, lame. You should try reading it before pulling the LAST paragraph out to try and use as a rebuttal. And if he wasn't disappointed, he picked a strange title for the story to convey it.

[jessehaysfl]

i must be a fanboy because i love the sh*t out of it.

[Petraeus]

Waves at SDF dude.

[Dissidia]

..?

[terrandragon]

What is this guy talking about? I played it at my cousin's house and it was better than I could ever imagine! The demo, of course.

[rexor0717]

1 place says it "disappoints" and now they speak for everyone? No.

[magqcc7]

Killzone 2 looks good, but I just got through firing up Heavenly Sword for old times sake, and I was amazed all over again. I think it looks better than KZ2 personally. Heavenly Sword was ahead of its time graphically speaking. The demo did dissappoint me though because the graphics weren't what I anticipated them to be.

[Consoldtobots]

Heavenly Sword is a stunningly beautiful game, it shoudn't be compared with KZ2.

[bassturd]

...disappointed who?

it exceeded my expectations. Jaded FPS gamer that has seen every single bit of media released about Killzone. Yet, still, the demo was better than I expected.

[Dissidia]

The title sucks, but the article actually has relatively good things to say about the game. Except for the mysterious "controller lag" some people are experiencing.

[Mr Patriot]

The demo does the game no justice , I have finished the game and its brilliant , absolutely amazing and exceeded my expectations. Although the game is not perfect ( no game is perfect )It is still and will be one of the best game not only this year but this generation..

[HDgamer]

And its working. I should've done this.

[sniper4534]

one i hate about the demo is ur squad mates they are so fuking annoying, especially that black guy, when u get to the part where u have to destroy the bridge, i was trying to get out the map witch at the end i did and that guy keep saying "what the fuk are u waiting for destroy the bridge" he keep saying that every 5 seconds lol i wish there was a way u can kill him lol

[ambientFLIER]

Somebody doesn't bow down to the Killzone hype train???!!! Infidel!!! They must be jealous!!!!! Sony force, ATTACK!!!

[PS3Freak]

Oh, go play nintendo you tool.

[Helghast Slayer]

Aww what's the matter? the Wii isn't satisfying your gaming needs? lol.

Well i say if you're not on the train, then get the f#ck out the way simple as that. If you don't like something keep it to yourself.

The masses have spoken and the ruling is final. KZ2 OWNS! and one persons disappointment does not hold any weight to the thousands that adore it.

[ambientFLIER]

When did I get a Wii?

[fhizikz]

who plays a demo 30 times? u don't like to play the other games you have now? i played it twice, and once more to show a friend.

[DJ]

Definitely not the media; just go to Metacritic. Definitely not gamers; just ask your friends what they think of the demo. I had a blast in the Multiplayer Beta, and the new Single-Player demo is incredible!

[zodiac909]

not good for them, where everyone else will be having a fun time playing it!

[anonilir]

Killzone 2 is fantastic, I've played the demo at least 10 times and it's a definite buy for me. Are the controls different....yes they are...do I prefer cod controls....being honest I have to say I do. These controls have some interesting aspects too though, for instance I love the cover lean forward or sideways system. But being honest I'd prefer them to be more like COD controls with the looking around flow. Not saying that I can't adapt or get used to it, I have as a matter of fact but that just doesn't mean that I can't prefer one type of control over another. Still this game owns and if I can keep playing the demo over and over and still have fun I'm definitely buying this game.

[baraka007]

I haven't talked to anyone with a PS3 that was upset with the demo. Most people have played it 20+ times now. If you don't like the game that's fine but we all know that's not what this article is about and it's just getting sad how weird these fanboy people have become...

[KillzoneFlopZOMG]

It's obvious that this game is going to flop. Considering that it can't even muster graphics as good as a wii game. The controls suck too, haha a delay in shooting, whoever heard of that? FLOP!

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I liked it...

...but you need to shy away from the graphics. Any respectable fanboy worth two cents could find other things to make fun of. The graphics are fantastic!

Everyone can tell you're just somebody mocking Killzone2Flop, PP, and the rest. You need to change the name and get more intricate with this.

[KillzoneFlopZOMG]

This is how the SHOOTER list goes for all time best.
1st: Halo 3
2nd: Gears 2

2nd last: Chicken Shoot
Last: Killone 2

[rucky]

How's life in backwards land?

[KillzoneFlopZOMG]

Backwards land is PERFECT for someone as clinicly insane as me. I can love xbox without people condemming me for my insanity. Also i find 80 year old women to be attractive.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I thought you were serious for a minute there, dude.

[jax07]

The response is not off. This issue has been adressed already and made clear that this is not a fast twitch game and has a different feel. Play the game and get used to the controls or dont bother to buy it.

[interrergator]

call up everysingle person who played that demo 1000 times and tell them wat they think of that 7 min demo

[GEESE]

Another attempt at fud hatchet peice from another very obvious 360 fan girl.
FAIL

[yanikins111]

arti-fail....

[JayD-1K]

i can't understand, how people are making these snap judgements calls over a SLICE of pre-retail code!

this is just something to wet your appetite before the final version comes out. some of these journalist, really need to get over themselves and just enjoy the games for what they are! not this crap about, WHAT they THOUGHT it should hvae had in it!

i just hope that PS3/360 owners like myself, don't pass up any game they think might be worth a go around this gen!

[baraka007]

well at least you know you're a crazy bastard next step is fixing yourself killzoneflopzomg PP PUPU KAKA killzone2flop lightningps3ps3 or whatever you want to go by today

[xabmol]

...?

[GamerPS360]

I am so disappointed with this DEMO that I played DEMO over 2 dozen times :D and already pre-paid for game.

Not everyone likes every type of game but majority thinks KZ2 ROCKS.

[NegativeCreep427]

Unlike several other critics I actually enjoyed the Resident Evil 5 demo, yet that demo is not being taken apart piece by piece like the KZ2 demo.

Why you ask? Because it is also coming out for the xbox 360. If RE5 was a PS3-exclusive I bet we would be seeing articles with headlines such as these:

"Resident Evil 5: Why no innovation???

"RE5 Demo suffers stiff controls. Are PS3 games stuck in the past???"

"RE5 demo dissapoints. Is this a sign of the PS3's future software lineup???"

I along with numerous other gamers have seriously enjoyed the KZ2 demo and the demo itself has only OVER-sold me on Killzone 2. After playing the demo I have decided that Killzone 2 is a midnight pickup for me.

[s8anicslayer]

Fanboys are Gay!If you don't have anything intelligent to say then shut the efin up!KZ2 is a remarkable game and if you don't like don't buy it it's that simple...

[Asuka]

i clearly see the logic going on here. Let's make judgment about a game based on a 10min demo. Bravo(got to love the media.......no wait, you dont)

[monkfish]

why not.....isnt this how most of the general public see it....i try demos online and if i dont like them i dont buy them.....

i suppose i should be all like " well that demo sucked.....cant wait to buy it though and see if theyve made radical changes so much so that its now awesome".

[shawnsl65]

disappoint Xbox360 ONLY owners that can't play it that is..

[DirtyLary]

Of course all the PSN players are going to agree this is the greatest fPS ever. It's got to succeeded in their eyes. Sony has nothing else down to pipe to compete with the juggernaut GOW and HALO franchises.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Uncharted 2, Infamous, Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo 5, MAG, and Final Fantasy Versus XIII aren't good enough for you?

I mean, we HAVE Resistance 2...which is much more fun than either Gears of War 2 or Halo 3. (That's only the multi-player though.) I would say Gears 2 has a better campaign than R2. However, Resistance 2's campaign makes Halo 3 look like a children's game.

[BladeSpain]

Demo disappoints hahahahahahahaha, the Demo IS GREAT.

[devilhunterx]

opinions are like a** holes. Everyone got one.

[xabmol]

thinks everyone elses stinks.

[tonywood]

A 720p game that looks and plays far better than any 360 game to date is getting hated on...what's new? If Killzone 2 was on the 360, there would orgasms all over Xbox live.

The playable Killzone 2 demo was the 2008 version. The latest "gold" version of them game has fixed many of the hating complaints on the game's point and shoot, light sources, and control issues. ( I know this because I played the newer 2009 demo, with the amazing multi-player!) These articles can hate all they want, Sony has always delivered to it's customers in the gaming arena. Instead of hatin on K2, maybe 360 fans should ask why MS is wasting money, time, and effort on just Gears and Halo re-hashes. Instead of buying other properties, how about coming up with your own ideas.

It doesn't matter what people say about the PS3, you know...like how stupid it was to put a DVD drive in a gaming system and that the ps2 would break down because of it. Yea, and I still use my ps for movies and games...the fanboy's and so-called vidoe game pro's got that right. Oh, and how did MS capitalize on it's customers? "Let's make our customers buy a remote and sensor to access the Xbox DVD drive. (Some how, Xbox fans don't have anything to say about how they are jerked around.) I got a simple answer for you....BUY A PS3! Watch how much money MS loses on the acquisition of Street Fighter 4, Final Fantasy 13, and Resident Evil 5. These will all sell far better on the PS3...mainly because of the so-called horrible PS3 controller. SF4 is not made of the 360 control set up, something that most biased sites won't talk about.

[MetalFreakMike]

And I did not have this lag that you speak of. I even tapped the button and it shot like it was suppose to. So I have no idea what the hell you people are complaining about because i checked it like 10 times and it worked everytime i pushed the button. So either this means that everyone complaining about it made it up or their controllers are f*cked or their ps3 got hit too many times because the fanboys don't like sony doing well at all.

[tonywood]

People are just hating on Killzone 2 because it's NOT on the 360. i'm sure you remember when all the game pro's just knew that the PS3 Killzone 2 footage was never going to be in a game. My suggestion to you is to lest these brainwashed people buy what they are told, why we are on the verge of playing one of the grayest FPS to even come to a console. (One review even pointed out the fact that their review was based on the fact that Killzone 2 was no multi-plat. Yea, because Halo and Gears sure are! Xbox live updates are messing up 360's and online play for Gears 2 has all but destroyed the gaming experience, but customers are still believing that Xbox live service is number 1. Gears 2 was no where near a 9.5. The graphics were not a massive improvement, although the Unreal Engine is still butter though. The 360 Sheep flock to bow down to what ever they are told. 360 came out and sold like garbage, and no website brought that up. In fact, the only reason 360 has survived the storm was because of Gears 1 and the eventual price drop.

Hey, it may not be the Halo Killer.....BUT it is strange the MS has changed to Halo was release date and rushed to back alley deal to have exclusive demo rights for RE5, isn't it? LIke it matters, Playstation fans don't need a demo, because we have been playing Resident Evil before the Xbox was even thought of.

[MetalFreakMike]

Your right on that one. Even tho I enjoy playing my 360 for COD4 and some crackdown, I still do not think xbox live is worth 50 a year. I can play COD4 on ps3 and it is just as fun and free but because my friends love and worship the 360, I have to pay to play them.

[tonywood]

I am a nice, sensible, and fair guy. However, I get irritated when people talk about stuff they either know nothing about, or try to justify something that has not real logic behind it.

What I was getting at with my earlier post is that...people gave MS credit for Halo, Gears, and Fable, but (For some reason) don't want to give Killzone 2 ANY real love. This game looks and plays like no other console shooter, and people are looking for stupid things to cry about. 720p......ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME! That's incredible, and Nintendo, Microsoft, PC game developers, and EVEN Sony people are amazed. I don't like MS because of the price gouging "suits", who know nothing about games, and use money to destroy the market. (I guess some people call that"good business tactics." Just don't tell that to Manufacturing companies, when the signing of the NAFTA bill shifted jobs and plants overseas....delivering "made in china" car parts, toys, and other plastic items.) Yea, I know that Sony and Nintendo are making a killing on Americans, but there is a "code of conduct" that MS is not adhering to. Instead of worrying about Killzone 2 and blu ray, MS fans should be wondering why a class action lawsuit was brought against MS for faulty systems....that are still in the streets. I mean, how many chips will these guys bring out before people realize that it's better to pay more for a quality entertainment system. ( I don't mean PS3 either. You could get a gaming PC, Macbook, or even the Wii, which in it's case you get what you pay for!)

[nix]

i wonder what he was expecting. some chick to come out the game and give him a blowJ0b? and when that happens, be sure sony will be the one to do it. lol.

@negativecreep: i totally agree with you. if RE5 had come out as a PS3 exclusive, the internet would have exploded with complains. look how the controls of the LAIR were brought up.

[Trebius]

Aaron I understand your need to try to discover 360 fanboys, if it makes you feel like you've succeeded in doing something productive for the day, thats great for you...

This is not the age of witchery and pilgrims, 360 fans will not be burned at the stake. If he prefers the 360, thats his opinion, he's not being obnoxious about it...he just states his opinion.

If he states his opinion on multiple articles, then thats because the discussion at hand is related, and he felt the need to post the opinion again. No big deal.

Kushan, whether or not he's a fanboy or not, (which i doubT) at the very least he's civilized and states an opinion without trying to troll. KZ2 is amazing, I think it's the official first FPS of this generation of gaming...but If someone disagrees, sometimes it's ok to just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

We're not children...lets not act like it.

[BMS84]

And GG is releasing a patch for the problem , because the glitches in Killzone 2 demo are MEGA news!! , but i don't even going to read this article , it's bull***t.

[Mr_Luke]

As usual it disappoints a) fake PS3 owners, b) who has a PS3 but clearly prefer the 360.
On some forum, ppl were already complaining about graphic and making comparison even BEFORE the demo was out.... so once out they had their chance to throw mud at the game, and so they did.
Something new? No.
The only thing that could disappoint about the demo was the lenght, 5 seconds demo.. sigh ;( and someone says that this wasn't the final build even, so the complete game will be even better.

[Pika-pie]

THE DEMOS AWESOME!!!

[Figboy]

i just played the demo again, and i'm honestly not feeling any sort of delay.

i'm playing on my HDTV, connected to my PS3 via HDMI.
i have the control sensitivity set two bars down from default, and i'm using Alternate 2.

i'm seriously not seeing any control delay.

when i pull the trigger, the gun fires, my knife slices, etc.
when i sprint, i sprint.
when i use cover, i use cover.

now, i've played games where there is a blatant delay in button responses.

i don't know if people are getting confused with "slow turn radius" as "delay," or what, but at the end of the day, for ME personally, as long as i'm enjoying the game that's all that matters to me.

it's unfortunate that some folks are having issues with game, maybe it will grow on them, or maybe it's simply related to the demo.

i don't recall a single review talking about a control delay, so it might just be a demo issue.

*shrugs* i just don't know.

the game feels GOOD to me. i have no complaints about the demo thus far.

[tool-parabola]

demo disappointed?? dear xbots, you can be brave, you can say this game rocks.. don't be so jealous, you also have great exclusives but Killzone 2 rocks.. I played tht short demo 50 times, the weight feel of guns is very realistic for me and the difficulty level is superb.. Controls are realistic.. If you are in a war and hold a gun, you can not move like a tasmanian devil.. Running and shooting can easily tire you (army experience :) ).. So, there is no single problem in Killzone 2 demo and hard to wait the full game..

[darkdoom3000]

I was so disappointing i played it another 21 times and ive been playing everyday after school. And this is just the goddam demo! I cant imagine how "Disappointing" the full game will be.

[Deadpool101]

Did i read a different article to some of you? He said that the controls suffered from some lag, ok thats a bit negative but other than that he said it was great, "doper than dope" even and he when he finished the demo he wanted more. Surely thats a good thing isn't it? How many people who are calling this article "anti-sony" or saying its written by an "xbot" actually read past the title?

[360]

A mate of mine who is a 360 owner and was saying he didn't think Killzone was going to be anything special came round to have a go and loved it from the demo.he found it hard to control as he was used to the 360 joypad but said with time he would find the controls easy but everybody has an opinion and mine was the demo was brilliant and i cant wait for the full game.

[peeps]

which is why i'm so confused about the title! The guys main problem was that the controls are love or hate but then goes on to say:

"It did just what it was supposed to do, though: it made me want more. Killzone 2 is looking like THE milestone AAA title of the year"

How can you write something like that but use a title like "Killzone 2 demo disappoints"???? Unless you've called it that simply because you know more people will pay attention, and lets face it judging from alot of replies most didn't even read the article

[deividpaulo]

disappoints?? WTF are you talking about??
KZ2 DEMO is better than gears o war FULL!!

[peeps]

Seriously don't go off the title and actually read the article. The title is completely missleading. You're just embaressing yourselves tbh by instantly jumping to defend killzone and shout down an article you haven't even read.

i'd also like to add that i'm really looking frwd to kz2 but i'm not some idiot who disagrees with an article i haven't even read!

[tudors]

Sorry mate but you got owned from the moment Kushan showed you he had a PS3, how can you own both consoles and be bias, seriously what does kushan have to gain by his most expensive console failing.

[wanderofys]

Only thing I noticed in my demo was a split second stop when moving to a new area. The guns did handle in the way described, but I liked it that way.

I'm also confused as to the title. The N4G title and title on the site are the same. Why would the author use that title? After reading what he said in full, he had one minor complain and is otherwise very excited about the game due to the demo he apparently finds disappointing.

[peeps]

bubbles for reading the article :p lol and yeh the title is very misleading which is a shame because all it's done is get blind fanboys bashing/defending rather than reading the article in question

[Dimitri]

Its dissapointing because its too short, however Im not looking at the single player, because i will complete that in 10 hours.

Multiplayer is what im looking forward to the most.

[Dimitri]

Ahhh just look at the jealousy in this article hahahahaha...

Some people are angry because they havent seen a game as good as Kz2 on their old crappy console ;)

[Condemnedman]

"I've played the demo 30 times" Why ?? have you nothing better to do ? Aaron greenturd you are a retard of the highest order > I can send you a picture of my setup as well . Xbox 360 & Ps3 sitting next to each other under my SONY 46 lcd and above my SONY amp .You should go out in the sun sometime and talk to people. get a life its only a game .

[poeo]

i'm sorry what? it disappointed who actually?

the people who expected it to be a 100/100, most perfect videogame ever? ok.

me, i just expected it to be a superb-looking shooter, but NOT THE BEST GAME EVER. just the best FPS for me in recent years, right after COD4. hell, it may even surpass it in my mind when i get to play the full game.

if KZ2 is not worth playing for some people, then i just feel sorry for them. your standards are way too high. stop waiting for another Half-Life 2, it will be a couple more years at least until a TRULY revolutionary FPS comes along. until then, the best we got are KZ2, COD4, Bioshock etc.

edit: actually, does anyone even know if there are FPS games in development now that have the potential to truly take over the genre? do something better than KZ2? COD:MW2? is that it?

[Firstkn1ghT]

My cousin who is a die hard sony fan and die hard FPS fan hated Killzone 2. The controls are sluggish. He canceled his preorder and back playing COD4. I heard this through out my job also. People just hate the controls. I expect a quick patch soon.

[poeo]

controls are easy as hell, i was popping headshots on my first playthrough. very enjoyable game.

and i'm not even a good FPS player. only decent at COD4.

so, your cousin fails (if he exists). sorry.

edit: also, you are really beginning to sound like a Microsoft-hired astroturfer. not believable at all.

[peeps]

not surprised tbh. probably couldn't deal without the aim-assist.

[maverick1191]

i think xbots are just bashing it as they only have DLC and halo wars this year lmao its funny when they say it will flop they just dont do no research or even look at stuff like reviews and pre order sales

[kelvin22]

well once again i have to say guys that your biased artitcles are back all xbots do is just find a post were sony isnt advancing in something well lemme tell you its A DEMO get over it thats so biased i cant even explain. You do realize that the demo gives you a taste if any gamer had a head on their shoulders they would come to consideration that that is what a demo is supposed to do not give you all of the game to play this frustrates me and shows me that xbox 360 fan boys also show their heads when sony is down .

[maverick1191]

well tbh i have played the demo a fair bit about 10 times but i cant get into it imo once i get into the warehouse im loving it but then it finishes i cant get into it then as i know what to do next time i play its still amazing but once the full game comes i'll be on it for months on end but i just cant get into the demo but its still the best fps ive played

[blakstarz]

Pathetic...more propaganda over the fear of a PS3 title that is turning heads by thousands, its really sad at how many people really want the PS3 to fail (especially the 360 fans)....its funny to watch some of these sites just hate on this game with no real good valid or solid reason as to why....the demo was super short to begin with which to me was a good idea because it makes you want to play more....good strategy to keep it short, but you are gonna say it disappoints when it wasn't even a smidgen of a first level and it a demo from an OLD BUILD!?!....real geniuses at work...SMH!

[monkfish]

well i just played the demo and it even fired before i pressed the button.....

if you dont like theis demo then you dont own a ps3....honestly this games so good it makes pacman look bad.

[Magnum7mm]

i think the demo is amazing.

[InItForTheGames]

Pleasing some people the demo is fine for learning the basics finding what controls suit you best and leaving you wanting more. Whats to be dissapointed at i have never heard people piss and moan about a demo so much in my life. Sony hate continues. Its a shame. Ill see anyone who can appriciate a great game online.

[BBAM]

can't say that I'm worried about my pre-order after playing the demo, the only disappointment for me was the length of the demo, I was counting on my ability to play it for 4 weeks until the real deal arrived, except it wasn't long enough
Also the graphics didn't shock me, however that's my own fault for watching too many vids on it, however I was far from disappointed with it
unlike about 100 fat nerds who complained about the 0.4 second lag when they maxed the sensitivity look speed....
or the xbox owners that want to try spread bad words on Killzone 2 and pretend they've played the demo when they blatantly haven't

[Magic_The_Celt]

haha what bullsh*t

[jlouis]

It's sad that all of these xbox lovers couldn't recognize a good game if it slapped them in the face and kicked them in the nads. Name an original game that is coming out for 360 this year that doesn't have to do with zombies and whose concept hadn't been beat down to the ground i.e. gears, halo, project gothem. I so tired of tired fan boys that back a crappy system just because they paid $50 plus dollars for an online experience. When you go cheap you pay for it later. You must understand Resistance is futile. Sony is just waiting for you to realize the value and the gaming prowess, along with the library of games that can stand on it's own is growing everyday. People are just mad because Sony actually made good on their promise graphically with Killzone 2. The problem is that Sony is still early in it's game cycle with K2 just using 60% of it's power. How much cpu power is gears 2 using???? Ask the right question and you'll get a wake up call for an answer.

[jlouis]

The Res 5 demo doesn't even come close to k2. Why must the girl stay with me the whole time I'm playing the game? That's annoying.

[rTR-Pioneer]

wow, after reading that article it is blatantly obvious that the title was made purely for hits,
how can it disappoint yet they like it even claim they like it and praised it all the way through the article, they had one gripe, and they even admitted it was a minor one.
what happened to honest titles??

[Austin_SJ]

The article and the title are at odds with one another

[MmaFanQc]

the demo disapoint?. ...i played it at least 30 times and im usualy always playing fps on my pc.

must be because the demo disapoint me i guess?

its a matter of opinion.....and hes opinion clearly SUCKBALLZ!

[mistermostyn]

Guys, relax, the full game does not have any lag or timing issues. It plays and controls well, and it's as good as the reviewing community is saying.

Trust me on this.

-Stevie (play.tm)

[Hallucinate]

i love it when people speak for me

[cpuchess]

While I wish I could use my 360 controller, I thought the game played very well. I really didn't notice any lag issues. You can just tell this game is going to have a lot of replay value, looking forward to getting it.

[ericheaf]

i guess this is NOT the Halo killer after all...

[xg-ei8ht]

Aaron Greenterd - bubbles for that man.

That was so funny.

Do you do standup.

Yeah the killzone 2 demo was boring, only played it 50times.

[ScottEFresh]

I've had a better experience keepping KZ2 on the demo select screen then I have PLAYING most Xbox games...this game is a Fn beast...

[iEternal]

Didn't disappoint me at all. I wish it was a little longer, but that's not really a con considering I really liked it and want to play more.

C'mon, this guy's logic fails miserably. You can't nitpick a demo for a lack of options (such as difficulty), because it is a demo. This is not the game... it is a demo - clearly this guy doesn't understand that.

[Brixxer600]

Wasan't at all disappointed either, the demo was just enough to whet the appetite for the full game.

[badkolo]

minus the lag the game rocks, and yes the lag is a problem ,if there is lag in the retail version i will consider it broken. im not talking about the movement im talking about the delay between the time you press shoot to when it actually shoots and the time from when you move the right trigger to when that actually happens on screen.

[ThePlaystation3guy]

I've beat the demo 10-times now and I love it. I'm going to play it once, every day, until the full game is released on the 27th. I'm submitting my impressions tomorrow to N4G.com and it's safe to say that I'm impressed... ;D

[REPLOID24]

I was worried that it was going to feel slower than it actually is. people were talking about the feeling of "weight" when moving around. I was worried it was gonna be like controlling the tank in resistance 1. it feels good, looks good, and is fun. on the demo alone, I am sold on KZ2. also, no lag to be felt anywhere. for those that felt lag, don't play after smoking a fat one, yo. that should help.

[LinuxGuru]

What? The demo did not disappoint. Nearly everyone I know has played it at least 10 times.

Check out my demo impressions:

http://playstationlifestyle...

[-EvoAnubis-]

Disappointing to who? I loved it. If the game follows suit, then it'll be a blockbuster.

[Blackcanary]

Ok i understand that its there opinion but they fail i love the demo played it 60 time's now. To me there opinion fails not only that but it sucks to.

[likedamaster]

I see Killzone 2 failing hard! 89 on Metacritic...

Biggest complaint I've heard from friends... it turns late, etc.

[debuchan]

1. If you have a PS3 buy KZ2 if you like it, don't buy if you don't.

2. If you have a 360 and PS3 buy KZ2 if you like it, don't buy if you don't buy Halo Wars instead.

3. If you have a 360 buy Halo Wars if you like it, don't buy if you don't.

4. If you a have WII buy WII fit it will keep you in shape.

[Claudinho69]

somebody should just make a list of websites and writers that just hates on the ps3 so we can completely ignore them in the future

[Traveler]

I love the demo and I have experienced no lag. I honestly have no idea what some people are talking about.

[ReeBlock]

PS3 HAS BIGGER BALLZ THAN THE 360! WOOOOOOOLAWOOOOOOOOLAHOOOOOOOO OO!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ReeBlock]

Pay me, Sony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BiG_LU]

What demo u thing is good and this one is not bad at all I play it like 30 time and still don't get tired of it, every one where saying the same thing about resident evil 5 demo and kotaku confirm that is not like the demo shows is even more fun so I believe that KZ2 will be more awesome.

[adlt]

In my opinion your opinion sucks.

[GraySnake]

(this has nothing to do with the article)

we are still complainig about a demo from the 2008 build?! this whole "Input lag" needs to stop, simply becasue of the fact that many reviwes have never stated anything remotly about input lag, plus it is really not that bad as some of the community are stating, i have no probs getting headshots in this game. Like i said this complaing needs to stop, we'll see if the final version has this, "GAME BRAKING" prob.

[Wardog1368]

Oh great, so now are you trying to tell me that reviews of demos are going to be taken more seriously than a full review by professionals?

Please, stop now before our industry is ruined with stupidity.

[ARog34]

I could care less once the game grows its community. The game will rock no doubt, the demo was spectacular and that's what?- 0.00000125% of the game...

All I have to say is- Alt 2 control scheme w/ Zoom Hold= AWESOME... and the weapons have the GREATEST power of rumble I have ever felt, geez am I really shooting a real gun? They're powerful, yeahya!

[Superduper09]

I thoroughly enjoyed the demo, played it close to 10x already. It was short though.