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Is the Wii Starting to Grow Up?

GameStooge.com writes: "Sega's booth at Comic Con NY 09 was refreshing and welcome to a lot of "hardcore" NIntendo Wii fans who are sick of going to the GameStop counter and having nothing but $30 titles that are either a collection of minigames, hastily put together movie license titles or kiddie versions of major titles - the latest titles, for instance, the choices were Ultimate Shooting Collection, Coraline, SimAnimals, Imagine: Fashion Party, Deal or No Deal, Neighborhood Games and Hotel for Dogs.

The common problem isn't really the licensing - it's the way the titles seem to aim low. They seem like a cheap attempt to cash in on the Wii phenomenon. Take Hotel for Dogs, for instance. The game is a series of unchallenging minigames interspersed with some clips from the banal kids movie. Even as a minigame collection, it fails. Unfortunately, this is the sort of game that populates the Wii. There's nothing wrong with Carnival Games, but when a platform is oversatuated with variations on that theme, one wonders if the marketing teams of certain video game publishers aren't relying too much on the reported demographics of Wii owners. They don't seem to understand while those demographics purchased the Wii, they don't have the interest in buying software like the core Nintendo audience, who are relegated to waiting for the occasional first party release that might cater to them - and Nintendo doesn't understand that doesn't include Wii Music.

From what was seen at Comic Con NY 09, that may change."

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Xander-RKoS3534d ago

Is the Wii growing up? Or are quality games that take longer than a year to make finally being finished?

Seriously guys, c'mon, it wasn't recently that all these developers said "hey guys, the Wii can actually be used to make good games", it was more like, a year or two ago, and while games like Carnival Games is about a few afternoons of programming, the games like Madworld, The Conduit, etc. have been in production for quite sometime.

Frankly, as I see it. Wii is unveiled, everyone thinks it's funny. Wii is making the most revenue for developers, people start making games for it. Developers looking to make a cheap buck put games out within the same year, developers wanting to make something of quality put something out the year or two after.

JonahFalcon3534d ago

Oh come on. The Xbox 360 had serious games being released by third party devs from launch through now, as well as the PS3. The Wii hasn't had serious 3rd party support - at all, really, after the initial games flopped (see: Red Steel, Far Cry, etc.)

BrotherNick3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

That's mainly because of the market. The wii is more broad in scope. I guess killing aliens and zombies is quite grown up. I'd say wii fit is more adult oriented than most of the games we play. :D

JonahFalcon3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

However, as the article states - the "broad scope" is an illusion. They include people who bought the Wii because it is a hot item, and have no intention of buying third party games - or at least games over $20. They have no interest in video games, just activities like Wii Fit or minigame twaddle. They play the Wii like you'd play some FreeCell on your Windows PC.

"I guess killing aliens and zombies is quite grown up."

Didn't read the article, huh? It mentions such games as Broken Sword and Roogoo: Twisted Towers, etc. Please read the article, especially where it says this:

"There’s a difference between a dumb kiddie film and a smart family film; Hotel for Dogs and Ratatouille both aim for the same audience, but while the former will make you check your watch, the latter will charm and entertain you."

Voiceofreason3534d ago

JonahFalcon, Please refrain from ever commenting on this subject again because it is obvious that you dont have a clue what you are talking about. First off RedSteel was not a flop. I dont know about Far Cry but how good is a 2 year old port suposed to do?
Trying to compare the 360 launch to the Wii launch? Are you serious? Most dev's wanted nothing to do with Nintendo or the Wii around launch. And lastly as far as Wii 3rd aprty support goes. WTH have you been? GHWT better reviewed on Wii and sold better on Wii, Shaun White snowboarding reviewed better on Wii, sold better on Wii. Then I dont guess you bothered to check the release list for 09 did you? Tons of 3rd party support to see if you just open your eyes.

I know from being on N4g a while that most of the people here are actually clueless when it comes to games.Your post is just another example. I just dont see how anyone can call themselves a gamer and just be so totally clueless to the gaming industry for the past 3 years. If you want people to take you seriously you might want to spend some time researching this stuff before you talk about it.

JonahFalcon3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

And the Minister of Wii Defense claims there's never been anything wrong with the Wii. Wii Music and Wii Fit are what the core Nintendo audience craves! Red Steel was an excellent game and not a 63 on the Metacritic aggregate score! More minigame games!

Please, don't be a fanboy and admit that most of the stuff that the Wii gets is bottom of the barrel, lazy junk like the games mentioned at the beginning of the article. You should be excited that some third party devs are trying to cater to a core Nintendo fan instead of Grandma and Little Johnny Four Year Old.

Maddens Raiders3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

and that's pretty much it. No sugar coating will change that nor delusions about how "grown up" wii fit is. When I get fit, I go to the gym and watch grown up - real life t&a bouncing on the treadmill right next to me.

Of course the 10 - 20 wii fans on this site will go all spasmatic once reading this shockkkkking news.

Voiceofreason3534d ago

Just cant help proving you're a moron? Take some reading classes and show me in my post where I said Wii was perfect? Or that Wii music was the greatest game ever. You really are an idiot. In typical fanboy fashion you take what is said, fail to comprehend it due to no education and start ranting and crying about things that were never said. I never said Wii was perfect at any point, but you ignorant inbreeding types just cant seem to comprehend English well enough to let that sink in.

Mahr3534d ago

"The Wii hasn't had serious 3rd party support - at all, really, after the initial games flopped (see: Red Steel, Far Cry, etc.)"

How exactly are you defining 'serious 3rd party support'?

I don't particularly like referring to Metacritic, but of the top twenty highest rated Wii Games, fifteen are third party. One of them, World of Goo, is even higher-rated than Brawl was.

Of the top 42 highest rated Wii games, which range in scores from 97 to 80, only eight are first party -- those being Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, Brawl, Metroid Prime Corruption, Super Paper Mario, Wariowares Smooth Moves, Mario Kart, and Wii Fit.

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

The other 34 are all third-party. None of which are mini-game collections.

ChickeyCantor3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

" Oh come on. The Xbox 360 had serious games being released by third party devs from launch through now, "

No developer took the wii serious because they though the PS3 and 360 would boom of the shelves.

So they took the risk of bigger budgets, thinking they would make a 1000% profit.

Thats why we saw so much shovelware because it looked like it was selling great. But if they pushed out better games from the start you wouldnt be complaining. Also in the beginning some developers were trying to push out core games. But publishers thought that shovelware was the best way.

@madden,
News or just your nonsensical drivel?

TheFreak3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

No the wii has always been an adult, it is 3rd party devs that are starting to mature. About damn time!

Maybe we can see some fellow gamers that will follow the example and mature a little, but I fear not :(

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wiizy3534d ago

uh ok. good thing nintendo was smarter then so call hardcore gamers that cant even define hardcore games. i guess if a game has guns then its hardcore? makes no sense. nintendo should never stop making casual games cause variety wins, thats why its on top.

JonahFalcon3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

Wow, the second straight time I have to write this:

Didn't read the article, huh? It mentions such games as Broken Sword and Roogoo: Twisted Towers, etc. Please read the article, especially where it says this:

"There’s a difference between a dumb kiddie film and a smart family film; Hotel for Dogs and Ratatouille both aim for the same audience, but while the former will make you check your watch, the latter will charm and entertain you."

Also:

"That’s not to say that you have to be Mature-rated or a shooter to be appealing. It isn’t when a title is cutesy or over-reliant on the Wiimote that angers Nintendo fans; they’re fully used to it, and will embrace it if there’s some effort and intelligence put into it. Just see Super Mario Galaxy. It’s laziness, condescending titles that pander to the lowest common denominator that annoys them."

ape0073534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

mad world

conduit

ready to rumble

house of the dead

they all look awesome and unique

pcz3534d ago

house of the dead over kill and deadly creatures!

eagle213534d ago

Unless you live under a rock.

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