"Inherently future-proof"? Really? Does that sound incredibly pretentious to anyone else?
Sony are saying it because Microsoft can't. Microsoft: "Durrrrr! Yhuk, yhuk! We got errselves a DEEVEEDEE playur in our system!" "Somtimes it breaks but that's rokay, we think we did a pratty good job making a consol out of pieces we find at teh garbaaage dump"
ps3 is way more future proof than 360 and wii so yeah they can say that easy. the 360 was maxed out upon launch with gears: that is the exact opposite of "future proof", it's more like "instantly obsolete". face it xb!tches: this business model puts the burden of innovation on gamers via much faster hardware cycles and therefore more money out of our pockets.
This is why morons like you 3 are banned in here ROFL.
There is no such thing as a future proof console. The PS3 is already outdated by 2-years. The only difference is I paid through the nose for processing power that is likely never going to materialize and by the time it does (if it does) is a new console generation is out. I want to see the power now, not something that might materialize. We as consumers all paid the price for a more expensive console that pumps out negligible differences in graphics between the 360 and PS3. It's not like we are comparing Wii (WiiCube) to the PS3 here.... Future proofing is just a fancy word for saying we are going to charge you premium for futures you aren't using now and will likely reap minimal benefit from in the near future. Just look at the quad cores two years ago, we still see little benefit from the today. Anytime anyone says "future proof" it means, I will rip you off. Better save up!
its not by how outdated it is, its how long it lasts. example: the PS2.
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Ok, let's think about it this way. It is more future-proof than the Xbox 360 and Wii. Why? Because it was released with a HDMI port, possibility to play 1080p video (and maybe games towards the end of this gen), Blu-Ray. So yes it is future proof in that way. Also there is still a lot to be squeezed out of the Cell. But if you look at it generally, obviously as soon as it was made the console became outdated in terms of graphics card, same with 360 and Wii.
and the PS3 is delivering the so call next gen Sony promised, i ask you How can gamers resist a $200-$250 PS3 eventually within around 2 more years or less? just imagine the games released by then, the blue ray wont fade away in one year, and most important: Sony delivers on their promise Nintendo, the so called wise one, has never had a console last more than a few years, with little to no improvement in the games quality. Sony did it with PS1, PS2, and it will deliver with PS3 the price drop will make Sony the 2009 champion, no doubt, and the games will make the PS3 dominate the generation. and also the PS3 is reliable, very important for longevity.
"its not by how outdated it is, its how long it lasts. example: the PS2. " Yes but the ps3 doesnt sell like the ps2. It might do a dreamcast or gamecube. While being good enough systems, it may not have the financial support to continue for ten years. The ps2 had much more support than what the ps3 is getting.
did you see the line up for 09, does not that mean the PS3 is fully supported? great games are multiplatform too, and the PS3 games will only get better. Also,in a collapsing world economy, did you expect a $400 console to fly off the shelves? A price drop will be enough to prove you wrong
Sales are what determines any products lifespan. The PS3 did not inherit the PS2's rapid sales or launch at the PS2's more streamline $299 price point. Why would anyone assume the two will sell the same when the formula has been changed so much? -Death
Here we go again, with the PS2 crap and how long Sony supported the PS2. Listen folks, quick lesson in "Life". If the PS2 sold 50 million PS2's instead of 140 million PS2's, they would "NOT" be supporting the system right now. The only reason, and I mean "ONLY" reason why they still support the PS2 is because it still makes Sony a decent buck. But the PS3 isn't making Sony a decent buck, in fact, it is losing them money. Not only that, but the PS3 is selling about as fast as the 360, in which is now getting outsold by the 360 for the past half year every month. Only fools and goofy fanboys listen to this crap Sony says. If the PS3 was selling like the Wii, I would say yes it is future proof. But when the PS3 is selling like poo, Sony will not support the PS3 for very long if sales don't pick up "Huge". That is just business folks!!!
Nothing is really future proof, but at least Sony goes out of their way to make their consoles last as long as possible. It's miles better than MS just taking a gigantic dump on the Xbox.
I've said that when sony said it was future proof it was a lie.The fact is that their isn't 1 thing that is future proof.The fact is that the ps3 was unable to handle crysis and it came out at the start of last year and that's a fact.They even had 1 ps3 fanboy said that about 2 years from now the ps3 will start to show it's power.I've been hearing this since it first came out.About the time it shows a big enough of a difference then the 360 the new systems will be out all ready.hell they already said that around 2012or2013 all 3 big companies will have their new systems out and that's a fact.In other words this ps3 fanboy wanted me to pay top $ for something 2 years ago when it wont really show anything different untill the new systems are out. Ps3 fanboys keep saying how the ps3 is starting to show how much powerful it is then the 360 now.The fact is that i've never seen a game that looks better on the ps3 then the 360.I'll admitt the lighting might be better,hell i'll even agree with the ps3 fanboys that the ps3 version of a game have 1 raindrop more then the 360 version.The fact is that no one CARES.they are the same damn thing.Just shut up about how great the ps3 is and just enjoy it.The fact is that if ps3 fanboys keep saying wait next year every year they will miss this generation.
If you plot the PS2 and the PS3 on a graph, then they're almost going the same road. X = time Y = sales They had a website for this... but i dont remember it anymore. PS2 didnt fly off the shelves it's first couple of years.
and you think KZ2 is something? Wait until you see where PS3 games are in 2 years. Look what they managed in a little over 2 years.
Does this mean the Wii is also off to a slow start? I only ask because the Wii is coming close to breaking sales records set by the PS2. In January 2003 Sony announced that they had shipped over 50 million PS2's worldwide. Not bad for a console that launched in March 2000 in Japan and fall of 2000 for the rst of the world. http://www.zdnet.com.au/new... You still sure the PS3 is tracking the same as the PS2? -Death
ps2= fast with endurance ps3= High endurance
"did you see the line up for 09, does not that mean the PS3 is fully supported?" I meant support as in people buying it compared to the ps2. I wasnt bashing it i was telling fact. Why would i bash a console i own. "with your 2 post you showed your only concern in this article is to bash the PS3. What a shameful way to be recognized. ignorant, at least, the updates are for providing more futures for the PS3 for Free. you must be dumb to complain about that. Go to a 360 article and praise it, that is good that you enjoy your console, but going around bashing the PS3 is pathetic. better yet, go and get killzowned and be happy." No again fact. All i was saying was im sick of updating and installing every time i do something on the console. Do u know how annoying it was just to get VOD enabled. How can normal people understand half the stuff u do on the console. People just wana play games...put disc in and play. I wasnt dissing the console i was just saying how annoying it was *sigh* means...man more installing.
but true :)
Consoles that last ten years are never a bad thing. So, 8 years from now.. I'll be able to say.... "Ah! That $600.00 investment really did pay off...."
"4 - It's a playstation, what's the big surprise? Even now PS3 is ahead of it's time, just let's make a list_ Upgradable HDD - Check HDMI 1.3 - Check GigaLan - Check Bluray Optical Drive - Check Updatable Firmware - Check Super computer processor - Check Support from industry - Check Lot's of first party developers - Check Reliable Hardware - Check Multi million dollars company support (SONY) - Check 250.000.000+ possible costumers - Check Internet capabilitys - Check New possible services - Check " Endless amounts of downloading and installing *sigh*... Check.
with your 2 post you showed your only concern in this article is to bash the PS3. What a shameful way to be recognized. ignorant, at least, the updates are for providing more futures for the PS3 for Free. you must be dumb to complain about that. Go to a 360 article and praise it, that is good that you enjoy your console, but going around bashing the PS3 is pathetic. better yet, go and get killzowned and be happy.
"Endless amounts of downloading and installing *sigh*... Check." Endless amounts of shovelware... Check. And no it's not for the PS3. It starts with a W and ends with an i.
Even now PS3 is ahead of it's time, just let's make a list_ Upgradable HDD - Check HDMI 1.3 - Check GigaLan - Check Bluray Optical Drive - Check Updatable Firmware - Check Super computer processor - Check Support from industry - Check Lot's of first party developers - Check Reliable Hardware - Check Multi million dollars company support (SONY) - Check 250.000.000+ possible costumers - Check Internet capabilitys - Check New possible services - Check IF Playstation 2 with almost NONE of this specifications was/is a 10 years proof proved product how isn't PS3? Even X360 will last at least 7 years with no big problems, or do you think developers will want to invest even more money on games development they they are now? Next-next gen games will require more money and more ppl to develop for, consoles now MUST resist for at least 1 decade or the industry can't make money for next-generations jumps.
The PS2 survived because of it's price and the ace that sony was making a profit off of it. It had VERY little to do with the technical specifications of the PS2.
Since when didn't marketing sound pretentious ?
Its not future proof. In a couple of years time when the next gen hits it will look outdated same as everything else. But its great at the moment so who cares.
it is future proof because i say so, without me nothing happens
I dont even want a future proof console, i want to buy something new every once a while.
Why don't you game on a PC then? You can replace your graphic cards every year, twice a year if you're lucky. <sarcasm> GLORY BE! </sarcasm>
Who approved it anyways? Its a blog. I don't why people are simply approving unknown bloggers. & on topic, I think it is, and Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Infamous and Heavy Rain tells us why it is future proof. Imagine 4th and 5th generation games coming out from these developers.
you wouldn't get a 4th or 5th gen Playstation if the PS3 was completly future proof
theory #1 bluray theory #2 proving that the cell proccessor can compete with pc gaming! theory #3 the unlimited and successful light of psn demand for small developers means more content!!
the thing is!! the console is !! and the competitors is not!! hahaha xfixme360 for the loss
Works for me.
How is it future proof if people arent using it even now?
i agree if you look at all the consoles out there nothink comes close.wi is a ps2 with a wand,360 lacks bluray which is huge in terms of what type of quality and games you can put out,how many discs would you need for killzone 2,ffx111,uncharted 2,god of war 3,infamous,heavy rain,mgs4 the list will just keep on growing.killzone,s graphics shut up all the nah sayers period,now reveiwers are talking about uncharted 2 as the next jump,when naughty dog say them selves there just getting it to work.360 is maxed out already theres no where for it to go.1 disc ps3 verus 5 plus 360 yeah i would say thats future proof.
they are correct....the 2010 holiday season will close a full year of dominance for the PS3 after a strong 2009 because it will likely be $199 by that point and that's just ridiculous... imagine being able to get a PS3 for anything under $200?...and with the firmware upgrades, it is future proof at this point... I mean, imagine when they enable 3D on the system...and any other capability they decide to add via FW upgrade... and by then I think we'll still see the Wii dominating, but also preparing for a Wii 2 and the 360 will still have a strong following because of the low price point they will have had as well... I just think the PS3...with the lineup of games it will have out by then will be unmatchable, but the 360 will still have it's certain games that people "must have"...the Halo/Gears type games.. I see lots of people pretty much owning both systems...because of what you get with them...and the price point that they will be available at...
of all the consoles, it was clearly the most thought-out and put together piece of hardware for the future... cant deny this in terms of reliability, performance and lifespan... even a fan of any console cant deny this without looking silly Sony's history is long console lifespan going back 2 gens. before the PS3. MSs history is one console prematurely abandon and another poorly designed console with hardware issues and will be replaced in 2 years the above are facts...like it or not
pretentious ? not the least. You see people, there was another article about 360 and it's RRODness. My 360 broke down 3 times, (sent to Microsoft 3 times) and I am extremely proud to be a ps3 owner. Sony just is able to make consoles that L-A-S-T. the 360 is already pushing the console to the limits. (Gears of war 2 being the most technically advanced thus far, at least that's what people say, I thought the game played like crap and the lighting was off). Sony has 10 year life cycles, they just do. They won the format war with blu ray, and if all they need to work on is the online component to their systems, then damn. That's a pretty darn good deal if you ask me. My point is, Sony CAN brag, they've had the lowest amount of system failures (I still haven't heard of a single person who's ps3 has broke down) and they have the wit and strategy to pull ahead of the pack. Not to mention that the games will get better and better looking as developers fully utilize the cell processor. Killzone uses' only 60% OF THE SPUS. That is astounding for a game that looks jaw dropping gorgeous, with it's huge maps and lighting preprocessing engine. This is not about my love affair with Sony, but people should understand, realistically and well, with common sense that Sony CAN brag, sure they've lacked when a multiplatform game is released and the 360 has the better graphics, but with their late start, they made a tank of a console that you'll be most satisfied with as time goes on. And for the Microsoft fanboys: I have a 360, and I've loved it when it's working and not RRODing, overheating or scratching the sh*t out of my discs because I changed the consoles orientation from horizontal to vertical while it was still on. Microsoft has their stamp on the console industry with the great titles too, so no fanboy should go crazy with this comment. What's most funny about all of this, is that I bought a ps3 right after my 360 broke down the third time, I said, I'm not going to pay for it, and went and bought a ps3. and loved it. I still go back to 360 for halo and gears of war 1. This post is done..... oh, and Sony: call me.
So if the ps3 is as 'ifp' as is the claim, then i challenge all those in my shoes to buy a ps3 in 2053!!! Am serious.
The hardware was and will always be outdated and its not future proof morons.
Not pretentious just the truth, the media inside the PS3 movies and games are going to be used the next gen most likely, so the next gen is the future right? Later on when the price goes down more people are going to get it, and when the next gen starts some of the important parts like blu-ray and such are going to be used in the other consoles but the PS3 will be the lowest cost at that time so the sell through rate will be pretty high So it is future proof as a fact
every program written in C is future proof because most of C++ comes from C?
yeah that's about right for Sony.
This isn't even a story. Some guy just quoted Sony and then asked a question. It's a decent message board post, but it is NOT a story.
Its future proof as far as how much it will sell, in a year at 299 in 2 years maybe close to 199 with a blue ray player, and blue ray penetration rate, it will be in a great position, MS will be in no position to introduce a new system at 399? The market will not be ready MS may find it self in a tougher spot then SONY was in last year.
I do not think we will ever see a game as detailed like CRYSIS on consoles this gen. The console limitations will not allow it. Consoles are already outdated....no matter how you or Sony like to spin it. PC's are Futrue-proof and scalable in every aspect. Consoles are not.
Killzone 2 is the closes to Crisis right now.Also its not about the system being outdated..The PS3 will continue to live 10 years from now because of Blu-Ray and the tech.Do you really think all the 360 system will last that long..I bet you everyone who have will will red ring..lol..
such as Ram, CPU and GPU? My point is you will see little increments on the consoles as far as that goes but on PC's it's redonculous how fast and better everything is upgraded... PC developers always have the latest and the greatest at their disposal. As far as the Xbox who knows, I'll be ready to buy a new one in 3 years if thats was MS plan. It came out in 2005. 2012 is perfect.
"it has potential, just wait for it, someday in 2045 it will show how future proof it is when the price is only $299 US dollors. It will have RIIIDGGE RAAACCCEEER!!! and God of War 3 will finaly be out. So suck it RROD bots with your multimillion selling everybody loves it Gaylo and Gears of Suck. Nobody wants your Left 4 Dead and Mass Effect, now if you excuse me I have a L4D and Mass Effect going to the PS3 rumor to write XD... Go to hell 3fixMe RROD RROD RROD! the PS3 will "one day" take the 3FixMe RROD box out of that overall 1st place... HAHAHAHAHA."
The idea of systems being around for a long time is good for the company, not gamers. If Apple stated something like, "IPOD 80 will last 6 years" without upgrades, consumers would be very disappointed. I stopped playing my PS2 in 2003, when graphics looked pathetic. Expect the same for PS3 and 360 graphics, both 512 GPUs (PS3 actually 256 + 256). Systems should deliver the goods ASAP, not several years after launch. I have owned the 360 since 2006, and the PS3 since 2007, and only now I'm excited about a PS3 game (KZ2). That's not good. I don't care if MS or SONY have to make the money they invested in a console by making it stick around for a long time. That's what you have non-gamers for (those buying PS2 in 2009). As soon as the next console hits the market, I'll be playing it, and saying goodbye to he PS3 and 360. Some gamers seem to have faith in what the future will bring for their current consoles. To those I say: you are doing what the companies want you to do. Wait and see, wait and see, no matter how crappy our games are today! (ok I exaggerate)
is bluray outdated? is wifi, bluetooth, usb port outdated? is HDDVD outdated? yes!
It is about as future proof as a fully invested 401K from Circuit City. No A/V component is future proof; it's good for a few years but there will be a PS4 so there's the proof of no such thing as future proof. Not to mention that the PS3 is contributing to global warming. It consumes electrical power like Pac-man on crack.
future proof no. long lasting yes.
Ram = PS3 games can never get graphics anywhere close to Crisis because it only has 256MB XDR Main RAM. Sorry, but no matter how powerful the cell is in theory, memory does matter. PS3 Nvidia RSX Graphics Processor = It is an outdated and weaker graphics processor than the ATI one used in the x360. Sony = 4D, 120fps, Third party games look better on PS3, Toy Story Graphics, The Cell will change the world, broken promise after broken promise, but the Sony fanboys still belive these BS time after time.
"Ram = PS3 games can never get graphics anywhere close to Crisis because it only has 256MB XDR Main RAM. Sorry, but no matter how powerful the cell is in theory, memory does matter. PS3 Nvidia RSX Graphics Processor = It is an outdated and weaker graphics processor than the ATI one used in the x360." sir..your dumb. Killzone 2, Uncharted and MGS4 says Hello. not to mention Heavy Rain. now please go to the open zone with the other clowns, you'll have lots of fun there.
LOL at disagrees. tell me me a game on the 360 that makes the PS3's Hardware look weak. I'll give you one arguement though which makes 360's hardware look weak... Weres a game that looks like Killzone 2, or Heavy Rain, Or Uncharted (FYI, Uncharted 2 is aiming to look better than Uncharted 1 and Utilize all of the Cell Processor's power), or MGS4?
You talk about the future.
3 sentance article....news?
god of war 3, killzone2, unchartred2, grand turismo5, mag, heavy rain, infamous, war devil, demons soul, ff13vs, quantum theory, rachet & clank future2, under siege, white knight chronicle,x edge , yakuza3, yakuza kenzani, fat princes, flower, nobi nobi boy, fist of plastic, savage moon, the agency, dc universe online, free realm, mlb09, nba10, trine, LA noir, and twisted metal. Half of those games are fpd. Most of sce developers currently have unannounced games, and some obvious to continue franchises like kh,ICO and J&d have not had an official announcement either. And there are games like ff13 which is exclusive to ps3 in jp, and 3on3, which I left out. So tell me no games?
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