An article posted on arstechnica.com goes into an indepth discussion of why Sega's Latest Blockbuster hit Virtua Fighter 5 would suffer from online play.
But it is not as big of an issue as some may want you to believe. I play DOA online all the time and have has 2 games with lag issues. VF5 needs to have online BIG TIME I will not buy it if dose not.
Street fighter II has online and you mite have had a problem last year but it only took them 2 months to fix it.
In the article they defend the lack of on line play by saying the game is reflex based, so if we took that approach with every game there would be no online play for anything.
no online play is LAME and pathetically lazy...good job sega.
Yah! fighting other people in fighting games is so stupid man those people that grew up playing fighters in arcades don't have a clue I wish Killer Instict never allowed you to fight other people and world wide cred would be even be more ridiculous than arcade cred.
I have no idea about the mechanics of any of this...seems to make sense...but I'm not sure if it's because it can't be done, but because it would take a lot of money and development time to do so...Doesn't every xbox game have to have online though...?
Guitar Hero technically doesn't. I think as long as they have achievement points, the game can be made. And both have leaderboards, I believe, which may count as "online" in their eyes; not sure.
No wonder you only see it on DOA4 and thats it and also
Mortal Kombat from current generations the online games for
fighting games is just a useless feature that doesn't even
with no lag I should be able to fight someone 1 on 1 no problem. I don't buy the excuses. Yes, I'm sure, on occasion you would run into lag and it would suck (just like it does on every other game) but that shouldn't eliminate the online feature. There are plenty of games outside the fighting genre where precise movements and rapid hand-eye coordination equate to better success and almost all of those games are online playable...
and it won't ever go away. at times it will seem like you don't have lag but there will always be a small issue with lag. with techinical fighting games even with that small lag it will take the game away from what it was meant to be. i agree that online isn't ready for technical games like VF or Tekken, though it would have been good to have online for the casual times. lag = punishable moves being safe, most the time.
Lag? haha come on Sega...
I play FNR3 online against friends, play in Gears co-op or versus, Rainbow Six c0-op with 4 against the AI enemies, and more and I don't experience lag and IF there would be any, it's so accidently and so minor it doesn't ruïn anything.
Having no online nowadays is like to forget to put your pants on when you leave the door. Everybody will laugh about ya. Like PS3 lacks online features in many games, besides this one also Tony Hawk, Virtua Tennis and more... It's too stupid to be true actually.
Just bring it on, VF5 with online features
you're already playing with lag. you probably won't experience it but you are playing with it. that is why in gears of war, if you're not host, your shot has a .5 second delay or so. if there was no lag, there would be no delay in your shot.
If you haven't played virtua fighter, it is very frame intensive and milliseconds count, espcially for counters. Lag in a technical fighter would be unplayable and more of just mashing buttons. So timing is everything and lag hinders that.
His point about DOA was that the windows are much larger so any lag would be less noticable. I doubt tekken 6 will have online play since the other ones did not, but I believe that Tekken is more likely than Virtua Fighter.However, a solution might have been a match making system for optimal connection.
They all missed the point and just spit out the ignorant rants. They just dont get it. Though to satify everyone, they should have put in the feature and just have warned everybody that because of the lag the game will play differently
i love VF i grew up on vf when arcades were popular in the U.S. VF3 was the sole reason i purchased a sega saturn... im now 25 i dont live in a dorm and my buddies are married/professionals spread out across the country. fighting games are meant to be adversarial there is NO excuse for lack of online play. in the japanese arcades theres online play since we dont have arcades here we should have an online mode on our consoles.
im telling you SEGA if you release this game on the X360 sans online play i will go outta my way to make sure everyone i know ignores it. for a game that is about fighting other people there is no excuse for lack of online play NONE
So virtua has no online,.......and tekken may not have online......PS3 fighting games are getting off 2 a good start arnt they. coz online DOES matter. DOA4 would be no way near as good if it didnt have online
You really need to understand how data gets across the internet in order to make an intelligent comment on this article.Unfortunately the transmission times involved would not allow a 'time critical' type fighter to be playable on the internet consistently.There are so many variables involved with data crossing the internet, that simply cannot be predicted.For example, you cannot be sure that data will take the same path to its destination on two consecutive transmissions,different paths will likely involve different times.In fact, this is the way the internet is designed to work to maintain a connection if one route, for various reasons becomes unavailable.This is not a programming issue, it's nothing developers can alter.The best they can do is to create a fighting game from scratch, that takes in to account these inherent internet problems.However, it would likely be a very different type game to VF.Don't blame developers for this,it really isn't their fault.
If you have worked (i.e. programmed) network stuff and have played VF you can understand this article. Yes, it is sad that there is no online play but in this case it is not possible due to the nature of the game.
VF is not all that Strict in Timing at all Please Don't listen to this d1ckhead.I plays VF since part 1 and no matter what like True Die- Hard Fans we don't complain we get used to it. If you have have a Good connection 98% of games in DOA 4 is Lag Free.IF VF is up to part 5 don't you think it became User-Friendly around 3? If DOA can have Flawless gameplay 98% of the Time VF can also if sega Spend their time coding it correctly. Even Ultimate has flawless online gameplay and that the O.G. Xbox. IF DOA 4 online lags the game Slows Down and still without control lag(Which is not half as bad as control lag like streetfighter.). This Dude is kicking some real bullsh1t.
BTW even if it has lag once in a while you think People will give a Fuk?
if DOA4 wasnt online id get so bored of fighting the computer.....you can only play 1 player so much and once youd done it with all the characters thats it. With DOA4 online you get 2 buy aviators, extra costumes and allsorts
AWWWWWW, but DOA can do it. Did anyone actually read the article as to why DOA get away with it.
I unless you forgot brother DOA and Virtua Figther are very identical gameplay-wise.DOA is Faster than Virtua fighters and believe it or not playing Tekken or VF after DOA Makes you feel like your taking a step action wise cause the hist are way harder and the actions is so extreme.In DOA you have to be strict also cause a lot of juggles timings are difficult. All that Sh1t about Timing frames for VF is Garbage and Over-used.No one should pay anybody to teach them how to play a fuking fighting game this easy.Talking about counting frames If thats the Case DOA 4 Counter windows gameticks is Way smaller than 3 so by far in a action pack match its it hard to Tell whether aPerson Crouch and Counter or did a standing Counter in Mid-Heat while going for the grab. People Kill saying VF is a Hard Game cause its is not. All fihgting games are the Same especially 3-D fighters. You only as good as what you can make a person do so you can react. How can a fight Lag when it only 2 people playing? The Coding should'nt be heavy. Even Capcom got it right for CVS2 On O.G. Xbox. The Dude who Wrote this story should play me in VF cuz the way he talks he better be good.
coz VF is wack
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