"You all know by now that Sony is kicking it into high gear as the '09 season lineup starts out with anxiously awaited Killzone 2. But does Microsoft have what it takes to hang with the big dogs this year?" -TheGamerAccess.com
Killzone 2 is starting the year off way to strong for MS to handle. IMO, anyway. And it`s just 1 of many AWESOME titles coming out.
That Sony fanboys run this site.
You wouldn`t have said that a year or two ago. But.....yes it`s a conspiracy, this site is run by Sony. Back then, people said this site was run by MSFT. Wierd, huh?
I am confused here. Shouldn't the title read "Can Sony compete with Microsoft this year???" So when does the winner of last year have to compete with the competition??? Sony finished dead last last year, is dead last in the console race. So, shouldn't it be that Sony should be the one "Competing???" As early reviews of KZ2 come out, and really with little interest in the game besides the hardcore fans, what exactly does Sony have. They better release GT5 and GoW real soon, or price and poor games will sink yet again, the PS3 into poor sales.
you're only noticing this now?? LOL But no use reasoning with them because they live in there own delusional little world. Even though numbers, patterns and common sense dictate otherwise, there beloved Sony will always be #1 at everything. It's an inferiority complex they can't get over; have to defend there console tooth in nail so they can feel better about there purchase. And before everyone ruffles there feathers know that it's not only you. Xbots were the same last generation when the original Xbox was getting murdered by the PS2. PS2 owners were so confident that they had no need to bicker with delusional xbox fanboys. Same as what happened with Nintendo fans over Sega fans, and Atari vs Calico fans. It's just human nature....same as can be said about sports fans. Let's prove this once again with the agrees vs disagrees. your gonna see A LOT more angree disagrees then agrees...but deep down inside you know it's true!!
Ok VX I know that even you aren't retarded enough to think that MS' current 09 lineup is better than Sony's? Or are you? I'm pretty sure MS has got something up their sleeves, but Sony's exclusives are huge this year. Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 ALONE are enough to satisfy me as a gamer. Fact is 09 will be a better gaming year for PS3 owners, whether that will project in the sales, I doubt it, the 360 price tag is too attractive for mainstream gamers.
You're an absolute fanboy if you don't think MS can't compete. I'm just not sure what fanboys are basing the 2009 PS3 victory on, I mean wasn't 2008 supposed to be the year of the PS3. It's a good thing fanboys don't work for the companies they support because the competition would be underestimated and they'd be caught with there paints down with their over confidence. Especially when Sony Execs can be quoted saying stuff like "We simply have to suffer a little" and "go down in market share", "And we've learned an enormous amount from Microsoft, too." or "If we'd cut the price, lost another billion dollars" or "Sony's not only fighting, but learning from its competitors". I mean seriously - if everything was a walk in the park, Sony would be the #1 selling console in the world, their stock prices would be through the roof, and they wouldn't be taking the biggest loss in revenue in years or laying off thousands of employees. It's simply going to be tough for both MS and Nintendo as well.
What the dumb fanboys forget is that most hardcore gamers already have a 360 or PS3. Dem da facts. So now we are left with mostly casual gamers or newcomers. Do you really think that they know about KZ2 or Alan Wake? They base their buying decisions on first and foremost on "Price" in which the 360 has a huge advantage. A few old exclusive games like GOW or GT ain't enough to spend 2X on a console for most casuals. Anybody that thinks KZ2 will move a ton of PS3 are delusional. Sony really really needs to lower the price of the PS3 by at least $100 if they want to compete now. The only saving grace that the PS3 has had up to now is the inclusion of the Bluray drive for watching bluray movies. Many companies give away free PS3 with the purchase of a new LCD monitor, or movie buffs that want a good bluray player buy a PS3. Price is the single reason why the PS3 is dead in last place. Price is the single reason why the Wii and 360 kill the PS3 in monthly sales. A few old time exclusives just ain't good enough anymore.
Can Sony catch up to Microsoft(forget about the wii that's long gone) and the answer is .... no. sorry, KZ2 will be a system seller, but that's not going to be enough to even equal sales, let alone surpass them to such an extent that sony can catch up .... At the current rate, By 2010 Xbox 360 will be 10 million ahead ! 2007 already proved that a great exclusive line up doesn't do anything to help Sony's sales ... so what's differnt about 2009? They got a great line up? Well ... ???
@1.8 - "You're an absolute fanboy if you don't think MS can't compete" So you think MS can't compete? Seriously read what you type out before you post it, cos that's what you're saying.
That was a good catch. That was simply a typo on my part! YES, MS can compete and will probably beat out Sony again in 2009;)
I completely agree with agent.I really want a PS3 but I'm waiting for that price drop. The same thing I did for my 360. Why was I going to get either one when I had great games that were coming out on my Ps2. I can wait for games because I only play about 10 hours a month. I am one of the casual players and I don't have time or money to spend on all of these devices. Price is a huge factor. I know that the PS3 is a great deal because of the blue ray player but I really don't care about that. I watch movies less than I play games.
looking at each company's line up.... nope... not in the games department.. maybe in the sales department but sony outsold MS last year and had a stronger games line up, 09' looks to be even better for sony. i will say goodbye to MS is the sales are even close this year without a sony price drop cause the 360 is $200 man.
it's like before it was "PS3 has no games... blah blah blah.." even though there were really good titles. Now it's like "360 has no games". Sadly they don't. I know many fanboys will come and defend it but it will all fall on deaf ears. the earth is round indeed! Defend!!! "lords of the rings"!!! defend!!!
@ Agent: When your console is twice as expensive as the competition and held out strong without reducing the price in the face of your prime competitor's price drop (yes, the 360 and PS3 are in deeper competition with one another than the Wii is with either of them), and you still sell more than 99% of the number of units your competitor did (10.77 million VS 10.8 million), I'd say it's a bit harsh to call it "dead last." They did awesome last year. Did they sell fewer consoles than Microsoft and Nintendo? Yeah. But "dead last" would imply that they could destroyed, and they did not. PS3 and 360 sold almost the exact same amount. They're both in dead last compared to the Wii, but to imply that the PS3 performed really terribly and the 360 did really great is just ignorant.
Back in 06 sony fanboys said that the 360 would die cause once the ps3 was release they wouldnt be able to compete with sony and te ps3. In 07 Sony fanboy declared it the year of the ps3 cause of all they great titles that were coming out even the multi plat cause no one was going to by a game that started on the ps on another system. Not only did the 360 not die it out sold the ps3 and most of those multi plat games sold more copies on the 360. Then 08 rolled around and once again sony fanboys declared it "the year of the ps3". MGS4 was finally goin to be released and it was the 2nd coming after all and to top it of they had HUGE system sellers like LBP , R2 and motorstorm 2. The 360 had no game to speak of coming out in 08. In the end to 360 once again out sold the ps3 and with a well time price drop and HUGE exclusive games. Now it 09 and we are hearing the same story we heard in 07 and 08 for the sony fanboy camp about how the 360 has no games and this is "the year of the ps3". But what has sony confimed for 09 that is so great besides KZ2 ? Uncharted 2 ? Well it seems likely I dont think its ever had any kind of release date confirmed. Even if it has that 2 games. MS has 2 Halo games confirmed and like it or not (I personally cant stand halo) halo is HUGE and they are system sellers. They also have SO4 and Ninja Blade. That 4 confirmed exclusives games not counting DLC. To top it all the 360 is 200 dollars cheaper and the ps3 is in dead last. So sony is the one that need to prove it can compete
ahem.. pssst.. i don't think 360 "outsold" PS3 in '08. they were kinda neck to neck. i won't list out the games that's going to come out in '09 from Sony's camp for now.
price is the 360's only advantage. Price and the uninformed consumer. PSN is now a robust network that provides a variety of games, it still has more games with dedicated servers than live, AND it's still free. Killzone 2 is simply gorgeous. It makes everything else look like doodoo. That's right...I said doodoo. Sony ran 08 and 09 is looking even better.
Can Microsoft complete? Of course they can. How well will they do? Only time will tell. Sony has a pretty strong lineup this year so MS better get their butts in gear.
Well.. lets look at the releases.. Q1-Q2: 2 Unannounced Titles Halo Wars Star Ocean: The Last Hope Ninja Blade Splinter Cell ConViction (maybe) Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost & Damned vs. Killzone 2 InFamous Q3-Q4: 2 Unannounced Titles Alan Wake Forza Motorsport 3 (maybe) Halo 3: ODST Mass Effect 2 (maybe) Velvet Assassin vs. Ratchet & Clank (maybe) Heavy Rain White Knight Chronicles Final Fantasy Versus XIII (maybe) Gran Turismo 5 (maybe) Then Multi-platform titles need to be included as well and which console they will have more success on.. Which is usually the 360. So yes, I do believe Microsoft has just as much of a chance. Oh and please, disagree with it, because I'm going by what every person has said here about the releases.
I don't really care about any of this. I have both consoles and will buy whatever looks good to me. What I know at this point though, is that the PS3's lineup for 2009 looks a lot more appealing than the 360's lineup. There isn't a single game that has been actually announced for the 360 to come out in 2009 that interests me much. Alan Wake interests me a lot, but it hasn't been given a release date. Splinter Cell Conviction interests me, but we don't know when it is coming or if it will end up being multi-platform. Halo Wars...doesn't interest me. Ninja Blade interests me, but I have a feeling it will be fairly average. Halo ODST...maybe. Most of the games I want are coming for the PS3. That is all I know and I all I ultimately care about.
Agent: Many people are still wanting to buy PS3's that aren't just newcomers. Many of my friends are getting it this year due to so many games coming out, improved service, hopefully cheaper price, and the fact that there are no 360 games they prefer to play other than halo
From here on out till the end of this gen getting a 360 over a PS3 makes no sense if you have to choose one in my opinion. Though I don't have to make that choice.
Well Mass Effect might be multi-plat... God of War 3 should be added with a maybe... Also downloadable games are not part of the list and sony has a lot of those this year... just sayin' :P
Yet we all seem to forget that we are all gamers. From what I have seen of this years line up, Sony has the clear edge in exclusive content. However, If some one is looking foreword to Star Ocean, Halo, and Ninja Blade, more then Killzone , Infamous, and Uncharted, then they're probably looking foreword to the 360 line up. It's not hard to fathom. All this arguing over opinions leaves you guys running in circles.
Well they better churn out games that look and play on the same level as KZ2 and potential future AAA (uncharted2, GT5, Heavy Rain etc). The ps3 is really showing alot more customer appeal when it comes to NEXT GEN games. Alan Wake and DLC's won't cut it for M$ this year.
Can FONY Compete with Microsoft In '09
"Well they better churn out games that look and play on the same level as KZ2 and potential future AAA (uncharted2, GT5, Heavy Rain etc). The ps3 is really showing alot more customer appeal when it comes to NEXT GEN games. Alan Wake and DLC's won't cut it for M$ this year." Don't you think that's asking too much of microsoft I mean "that look and play on the same level as KZ2" that's suicide for their flopbox 180. @ravinshield "the question is Can FONY Compete with Microsoft In '09" ...Denial at its finest.
Let's just get this straight, the answer is: No.
And to answer the Question Hell No !!!
They can afford it.
Thats a No then
Not to say that this one wont, but I would expect this to do anything more then what other JRPG's have done for 360 sales in the past. That said I hope the game does well, I love the art style and I know a lot of people are looking foreword to tis game.
That Cost about 2 million to Make(God Damm R* are laughing thier Ass's off) And they are waiting for a Game that Dont Exsist in Alan Sleep !! Its in Hibernation Oh and This Halo wars Thing (WTF is all that about) Thats Xbox's Exclusive line up right there and it SUCKS !!
sucks to be M$ or a xbot fangirl, that DLC was a waste of money! especially in this economic condition. Someone should run a story about how M$'s greed and selfishness to get xbox exclusive DLC cost them $50 million, meanwhile they cut so many thousands of jobs, and no one even gives a damn about GTA or the DLC.
Has every one forgot about Star Ocean 4. That game will sellout Xboxs all over Japan. I don't think Killzone will be enough for Sony. Not with 2 Halo games(which i am skeptical about) and Star Ocean. And lets not forget exclusive Fallout DLC
halo wars was pretty cool from what i seen.. i only own a ps3 and im vary excited about this year. i like MS but i just dont like the 360 that much.. i prefer to play at my buddy's house lol. the only thing i hate about this gen is EA.. EA games are a joke only buying fight night when it comes out dont need no other half way finished rushed out EA games crap!!!!
nope I doubt it.
they might compete with sales. Got to love the uninformed budget gamers!
I guess the unbiased gamers don't even bother commenting on this stupid site anymore. Have fun 12 year olds/hiphopthegamer posting sh!t all day and sucking Sony's d!ck. I'm out.
Don't come Back Cry Baby
Yeah Fox go cry more its funny how when all the bashing ps3 stuff was up you didn't care but now its there turn to take the hits.
couldn't agree more mate. Xbox will be fine, just take a look at the R5 demo, even now i wouldn't swap my multiformats for the poor framerate, jaggie ps3 versions, and by the way ive got a ps3, and yes ive played K2 and yes it's the best looking console game to date, but that wont worry most gamers as ive said before, it's about all games, not just exclusives, and with that , 360 will be fine, dont worry your bias heads about that.
lol another blog site pretending to be..well i dont know what really! a blog site specifically created to write sony leg humping material especially for n4g's eternal sony legion. how many of these do you write a week nick212004??? the thing is, with all these pathetic blogs, and all the other rubbish that gets wrote by other n4g members which have the same blog-sites, it still hasn't helped sony at-all!! i'm sure sony pays you lot well for all your propaganda(well they must do for all the hard work you lot put in?!), but the reality is, only hardcore gamers, and lots of sony fanboys read n4g. so no matter how much of this leg-humping sh!t that gets wrote, it still isn't changing anything...nice try though. fafoon: you are a prime example of all thats wrong with n4forfanboys... everyday you and your brethren make this site worse and worse. congrats everyone, another sad day for gaming! [email protected] davidmacdougall..lol surely your no older than 14! pathetic!
Your names king dong and im the ****ing idiot? ...and stop crying already there will be a "Sonys DOOMED!" article in pending soon.
dont judge me by your standards child, because you get upset everytime you see a negative sony article, dont assume that everyone else does! as i said, your pathetic! but dont worry, your not alone on n4g!
A 360 fanboy mad at any positive PS3 news.
lol, a blog from a twice-a-week-sony-loving-espec ially-for-n4g-blogger is good news??? lol again. why dont you link my previous comments so everyone can see where i've been rabidly attacking sonys good news. also, why dont you get an understanding kiddie. this is a blog, from a blog site! come back when your old enough to comprehend.. are you davimacdougalls other account by anychance???
I find it sad that you would congratulate yourself on being older than the people you berate and somehow find comfort in winning a battle based on vocabulary education. You think that you are better than others just because you may be older than them? Even if you are indeed older, you are still on the same site arguing with what you would consider to be "kiddies". Bravo, sir....I am sure that your mother is proud even though you haven't moved out of her basement yet. Edit: @MadPuppy Unfortunately, I doubt that this is the end.
Your condescending attitude is tiring, You read like an elitist Apple (or Wii) owner. Maybe you need to grow up and stop patting yourself on the back with the delusion of being filled with some starry-eyed, world-weary wisdom. EDIT: Mr Bun, I think we got his number. EDIT: Interesting, I went through your comments and it seems all you do is complain about "PS3 fanboys" and belittle PS3 games. only once did you mention "360 fanboys" in a comment and it was in passing. you also seem to feel that the only platform that innovates is MS and its first and second party developers. In one of you own posts you make the statement that Halo was innovative and Killzone 2 is not. Personally, I don't believe that either one was innovative in the least. Killzone 2, because it is a newer game looks better and sounds tonnes better. (still doesn't sound better than Battlefield: bad Company though). You read like a 360 fanboy in denial. Frankly, I enjoy both my consoles, but, I am not blind and I sure as heck know which one is made better.
there's no "battle to be won" just the usual rubbish on n4g. a nonsense blog for the sony fanboys, that if anyone disagrees with, they're attacked and bubbles are lost..fox01 has already lost a bubble for what he said. whuch is essentially the truth. no mr bun, i'm better than no-one just more level headed. and i dont feel the need to write essays in defense of any console, and just play the games i like, and not hate something because it's not sony or microsoft. this site has gone to the dogs. but not that you would understand. in general, people wth bubble tallys like yours normally have an agenda on n4g....which 99% of time usually puts them in the sony camp. perhaps thats why you felt the need for a little attack on me?? anyway mate, i'm from the uk, "basements" are rare over there. but in france where i live now, they are everywhere. but no i dont live in one of those...although i want one in the next house me and my girl intend to buy this year. coz thats where i want my games room! anyway, run along mate, i'm sure there's more fanboys whos backs need covering! edit above: lol there you go, thanks for proving my point! no dount a few more loyal soldiers will join in the attack shortly. edit2: pennywise of all people. what a surpirse. one of the worst fanboys i've seen on any web-site...lol. where did i question the quality? or "the leap"(lol) that the ps3 has made? when i see the same nonsense blogs week-in week-out masquerading as news from this site, i question the validity of the source, and ask what it's real intentions are! edit3: coming to fox01's defense wasn't my aim. although i reply'd to that one, his was the first post that didn't look like it was wrote by the many sony sword swallowers that stricken this site. and yeah i agree he could've articulated his thoguhts better..lol n4g has become an increasingly frustrating place to visit for news if your not a sony soldier. anyway, no hard feelings mr bun. i'm finished here. just watch the others line up now, and i'll pm you again to let you know how many bubbles this cost me.
King Dong, I would rather have no name blogs reporting positive news for the 360 or ps3 than a person who whines about the news. Dont come here and piss on everyone parade. It is a legit question this blog is posting. Granted, they want hits... but really, how will the 360 compete in terms of quality? The PS3 has taken a big leap since late '07. It all started with Uncharted and the quality gap will not do anything but get bigger.
It is funny that you would bring up "covering other peoples backs" when you are doing the same for fox01... I can't attest to why he lost a bubble, but if his post was anything like this one (8): "Have fun 12 year olds/hiphopthegamer posting sh!t all day and sucking Sony's d!ck" then I am surprised that he has as many as he does. Maybe you should use better judgement as to whose defense you come to.
Dong, and you are an alt account of who? Oops, I didnt notice you were out of bubbles. I guess the world will never know. Shame about that, you seem so insightful.
Man you still got that lame a$$ album here i stand as ya avatar The only hot song on that album was Trading Places. Besides that it sucks like 360s exclusives besides project Gothem
No way in hell!
they have ninja blade and dlc,dlc,dlc,dlc,dlc,dlc,and netflix movies.
Halo 3:Rehash will release and will drive console sales in september. but out side that, MS will be pretty good this year with there current price so they'll be able to keep afloat, but the games is a different story, They really dont have it this year, or at leats they haven't announced anything that makes you say Ooooooo. we get 2 halo games in one year... and....... wellcant say till e3, i'm sure GDc will prove very nice for Sony and MS, but this is Sony is going all out. they start the year of with greart multiplatform games and a top teir exclusive that has finally proven itself. the months that follow will be awesome. gotta love 09, it's gonna be fabulous. on the games front MS cant compete
Thank you for saying something useful around here in such a thread :p I pretty much agree with what you've said. I really don't judge a console for its exclusives nor the graphics, which seems to be the reason for this gens console/fanboy war. Fact is, none of the consoles are perfect, and absolutely won't get to be for at least this gen.
I agree with topic creator, i own both systems but i don't think Kz2 will have the impact ppl seem to think it will it will sell well but can it move new consoles?? Don't forget Star Ocean 4 coming out right on target with KZ2 that should be a huge MS seller too look at the wii sales, graphics don't sell I'm buying lots of the PS3 and 360 Exclusives this year, no favoritism to either MS hasn't even announced their full '09's yet
I got one answer for this question... Nintendo Wii. No games and still on top. I have spoken that is all. Ok for real people do you really think MS is going to pull a Sega over a few games? Did Sony quit when MS hit hard with their games? Just play games people, we need competition to make these companies work harder. GT/PSN: IronAvatar
there are just more casual titles than hardcore ones, and unfortunately some casual sells better than what we consider as "good" games due to the large causal players on the Wii. Wii Fit sales anyone? Fragile, Madworld, and Conduit all looks very interesting.
No. Not a chance.
at my gamestop store PS3's are actually purchased more than xb360's now. I think people are beginning to see that the xbox doesnt offer any games or any chance at anything new.
It's febuary of 09 and you droids think Microsoft is done with SONY?? See ya at E3! 360 is in the lead there is no desperation on their part.