Top
870°

Sony Responds To Microsoft's Netflix Numbers, Regrettably

Microsoft's public bragging about its success with Netflix adoption among Xbox Live subscribers did not go unnoticed by the press release maestros at Sony. Which is unfortunate, really. So how does Sony respond? In a media "highlight," one which gave us horrible flashbacks to this episode, Sony attempted to chip away at the Netflix service's strengths by touting free access to its PlayStation Video Store, faster download speeds, and newly released, terrible movies captured in stellar Blu-ray clarity like Max Payne and Swing Vote.

The story is too old to be commented.
tocrazed4you3154d ago

Positive article from kotaku about sony? I am shocked maybe they got killzowned to hard they lost their minds.

Eddie201013154d ago (Edited 3154d ago )

Most of the people that downloaded the Netflix client on Xbox live were existing Netflix customers. 300,000 new subscribers can't totally be attributed to the xbox live service, much of that was because they started offering Blu-Ray rentals, so it wasn't really that much to be bragging about. Yet Microsoft spun it to look better than it really was.

A good portion of the new subscriber that did subscribe to Netflix because xbox live offered it, probably only kept it for a month, because it wasn't as good as they expected, the movie selection for streaming isn't that great. I have Netflix for Blu-Ray rentals which are doing extremely well for Netflix. A lot of the new subscribers were because they started offering Blu-Ray rentals

So Sony puts there own spin on things and gets crucified for it. Most of what Sony said is true and some of it is just spin. Microsoft article was mostly just spin, business as usual for Microsoft.

Michael McWherter never misses an opportunity to bash Sony.

Eddie201013154d ago

Correction to my last post. I have to admit I didn't read the article completely and assumed it was similar the Joystick article, It seems that Michael McWhertor was being pretty reasonable in his article, My apologies.

godofthunder103154d ago

I don't have netflix and i'm not planning on getting it.The only thing that i like to know is what sony and the ps3 fanboys really belives.At first sony and the ps3 fanboys said that streamming movies will never take the place of BR.Sony and the ps3 fanboys claimed that Streamming movies takes to long and the quality is bad.Now they are saying that it's fast on the ps3 and it look just as good as a br on the ps3.This is the biggest spin i've ever heard.Sony and the ps3 fanboys claimed this not long ago.Now if you listen to them the ps3 is the only way to download movies quick with a pic like BR.I wish they make up their minds because it could only be one way.

I'm tired of hearing how microsoft do this and that and sony never did.The fact is that sony stole it's biggest exclusives from nintendo when they first came out.Sony stoled Final Fantasy,MGS,Ninja gaiden and other top exclusives from nintendo when they first came out and that's a fact but ps3 fanboys never talk about that.Ps3 fanboys are right about one thing.Sony will never give a 3 year warrinty on a defected game machine.When sony came out with the ps2 it had a defected drive in it and just like ps3 fanboys said sony would never give a 3 year warrinty on a defected product,they only gave a 2 month warrinty on the defected hadrdrive in the ps2 and that's a fact to.I had to buy 4 in 5 years and ever one i know had to buy at least 2 in 3 years.On the other hand i don't know one person that had to buy a 360 because of the defect in 3 years.

I'm not saying that the 360 is perfect.I'm not even saying that the ps2 defect rate is higher then the 360 because it isn't.The only thing that i'm saying is give credit where credit is due.To belive that sony is an angel and never do anything under handed is ignorant.If sony plays like an angel like bias ps3 fanboys claim then we wouldn't have sony today.The other companies would have ate it up.The fact is that in the big buisness world it's dog eat dog,kill or be kill,to belive anything else is just plain stupid.

I'll agree that microsoft is trying to get all of sony exclusives because sony is the top dog and the biggest competition to sony because they are both after the same age group.To deny that sony never stole exclusives from nintendo is just a pathetic remark.Like i aid above they stole FF,MGS,ninja gaiden and other exclusives away from nintendo when the first PS was released because that was sony competition and they wanted to be the top dog.Instead of saying stupid,bias,and pathetic remarks that sony is ran by a bunch of priestps3 fanboys need to reliaze what they are saying because it's just plain stupid.A company is a company.it's not god,a saint,priest,or anything like that.Just like every other big company they would do what it takes to stay on top and that's a fact.like i said before if sony was ran like it was run by a priest we wouldn't have sony today.So instead of makeing an a** out of yourselfs tall should just stop saying stupid remarks like that because it doesn't make 1 damn since.if any one of yall know anything about buisness then yall would know that there is no way in hell sony could still be 1 of the top electronic companies in the world if they ran it like yall claim and that's a fact.

I can't even belive that ps3 fanboys claim that sony never lie.The fact is that before they released the ps2 they showed a game and claimed it was actural gameplay.When the game came out it didn't look nothing liked they showed before.Finally the developer of the game said that it wasn't actuaral gameplay like sony claimed but it was prerendered.The same thing with the ps3 controller.First sony claimed that they didn't put rummble in the controllers because it was old gen,it was a lie.Then sony said the controller didn't have enough room in it to put both rumble and moition it it,it was a lie to.The real reason that sony didn't put rumble in the ps3 controller at first was because sony and microsoft was both sued by the company that invented rumble because they both used it with out permission.They both lost the case and they both had to pay a big fine,so much to the company for useing rumble all the other years they used it and make an agreement with the company to use rumble in the future if they wanted to.Microsoft paid their fines,the money they owed to the company and made an agreement with the company to use rumble again before the 360 was released.Sony on the other hand never paid the company for useing rumbles all the other years they used it and didn't even try to make an agreement with the company to use it again before they released the ps3.This is the real reason rumble wasn't in the controllers at first.

acedoh3154d ago

I expect SONY to offer a similar service in the future with Blockbuster. Maybe it won't happen. I don't really care about movies off my game console. I enjoy having t.v.shows much more. I guess there is quite a large market becoming available in the movie download business and it may actually dictate a large audience when the next generation begins. It's not just about videogames anymore. These consoles are becoming super computers capable of everything from your living room.

Anon19743154d ago

I might be interested in Netflix on my 360...if they offered it but it doesn't sound like this will ever come to anywhere but the US. I guess that's what the rest of the world gets for not buying their console.

JaggedSac3154d ago (Edited 3154d ago )

You could say that people that activated the Netflix streaming stopped using it after a month. Or you could have read the fact that there has been 25,000,000 hours of content streamed to 360s from Netflix. It was a great success. Get over it. Oh, and I have a Blu Ray player, so I am getting 2 blu rays at a time from Netflix, and get to stream all the content I want. Just got through streaming 2 seasons of 30 Rock in HD. And the HD looks just as good as broadcast HD.

antt33153d ago

Yeah...well, I've been streaming netflix, hulu, youtube, and more on my PS3 for months now using Playon.

I love how these articles never seem to mention the fact that you CAN stream netflix on the PS3. And there's no subscription fee. Just a one-time $30 purchase of the software registration key, and that's it.

Even 360 users could use playon if they didn't want to have to subscribe to live.

KingME3153d ago

"I love how these articles never seem to mention the fact that you CAN stream netflix on the PS3."

Perhaps that is because they are talking about the PS3 out of the box, without third party addons or PC's relaying the stream. I think the playon this is a cool option, however it not in the focus of what these articles are talking about.

"And there's no subscription fee."

So are you saying that you found a way to get netflix without playing for a netflix subscription, because we already know that PSN is free (As also explained in this article)

"Just a one-time $30 purchase of the software registration key, and that's it."

"Even 360 users could use playon if they didn't want to have to subscribe to live."

You whine that 360 owners have to pay for live, yet you are willing to pay 30 bucks for that software registration key. I know, I know, it's a one time only fee right, right. But you also only get to do one thing with it and that is stream whatever it is that playon streams. I guess what I'm saying is, people have things that they are willing to spend money on and things that they are not willing to spend money on. You are willing to spend 30 bucks for playon, others are not.

IcarusOne3153d ago

But since when does it download faster than XBL? My experience on the 2 systems is you get what you pay for. Most of the PSN movies don't even have 5.1 surround.

Traveler3153d ago

I don't know, speed wise they seem about the same to me. I've never actually timed it, but I have noticed that sometimes PSN seems faster and sometimes LIVE seems faster.

Who knows, maybe PSN is slightly faster on average.

Arnon3153d ago

1. Blockbuster does not offer a instant streaming service. Only downloading, which would put either the Blockbuster service, or the Sony Video store service out of business. And would, generally, be a waste of a contract deal.

2. The number of members it is relating to is the number that use Netflix OFF OF THE 360. Not just Netflix in general.

3. I'm able to download, stream, blah blah whatever about twice as fast on my 360 than my PS3..

The Lazy One3153d ago

the PSN store competes with M$ video marketplace. Netflix is a service outside that.

also, why would netflix be available to people outside the US on 360 before it's even available outside the US on their own website?

skimming3153d ago

They're very much aware of the well received Netflix integration. Instead of trying to FUD the consumers, they should be focusing on providing their own Netflix support, for free of course.

This will compel MS to drop the Gold price or give up their marketshare.

I'm just wondering what deal MS has with Netflix to deliver this content. Wonder if it is some calculated percentage of Live fees... I always suspected that Live fees has some kind of kickback to the content providers based on usage characteristics.

If this is the case, then Sony will have to either lose money to provide Netflix content over PSN or it will have to start charging for it. If there's no payment to Netflix then Sony should make a deal with Netflix the highest priority to negate MS advantage.

To those who continue to belittle the Netflix integration effort, please try it out first before. Watching Netflix on PC is not even a remotely similar experience to watching it on Xbox.

Microsoft and Netflix: Kudos! Excellent work!

antt33153d ago

I can tell from your passive aggressive reply and your bubble-count that you must make great arguments.

The reason I bring up playon is because whether or not they are talking about the PS3 "out of the box" or not, Microsoft showing off their numbers is meant to do one thing: Show perspective customers that the 360 has something the PS3 doesn't have. That's why Sony felt the need to counter Microsoft with their own PR.

MY point is that Microsoft (and Kotaku by proxy) is showing off a feature that is NOT exclusive. Yes, it's through 3rd party software. So what? The only people that care about these numbers Microsoft is showing off are stockholders and fanboys who want to rub it in other people's faces.

Everyone else only cares about one thing: Can I stream netflix or not? For those people, I was telling them yes, you can.

As for my last comment about the price. No one was whining. I could care less how much you pay for a service. I was merely pointing out that playon is available to both PS3 and Xbox users.

JaggedSac3153d ago

Netflix doesn't allow their HD streams over the pc. So the PS3 cannot get access their HD streaming content. Only the Netflix software on hardware such as Roku, 360, and certain blu ray players can access the HD streams.

And Hulu and YouTube look like someone took on a dump on the tv screen.

antt33153d ago

Sac,

Playon actually upconverts all of the content pretty well, and the quality you specify (anywhere from low to high) determines how it looks on your screen. For something streaming off the internet, it looks pretty good.

And if I want something better, I'll watch bluray. :-)

+ Show (13) more repliesLast reply 3153d ago
Wife Of The Bad Guy3154d ago

Only 300,000 new Netflix members came from XBL,why should Sony break a sweat over such an insignificant number?

NaiNaiNai3154d ago

those are new members, what about all those people already had netflix and a 360. >.> hmmm.
-nai-

Godmars2903154d ago

Seeing how we have to pay a buck more for BR after HD-DVD got buried, you think we'd get some consideration.

thats_just_prime3154d ago (Edited 3154d ago )

"PlayStation Network users have free access to the content they want."

So do XBL live users netflix is not XBL content its another services all together.

"PlayStation Network's video delivery service is the ability to transfer standard-definition content from the PS3 system to the PSP system."

Would anyone really watch a movie on a 3 inch screen.

"In a recent experiment by MTV Multiplayer, PlayStation Network was found to be the fastest service for downloading"

Netflix is steaming no downloading needed. Plus You are require to install demoes and games after you downlaod them so in the end psn is the slowest on there is.

"PlayStation Network provides HD content reliably without waiting for streaming connections that might not ever be made."

Dont know of anyone thats never been about to get a connection on netflix. XBL aslo has HD movies you can download

"allows users to easily stream content and watch videos through internet sites on their"

You can do that on the xbox too

"New Movie Release"

Netflix carries all new release on dvd and blu ray

sony looks like complete idoits by their statements

Well got a bunch of disagree already for all the SDF member in here and since I'm sure I'll get more I dare anyone to prove anything I said wrong

Godmars2903154d ago (Edited 3154d ago )

PS3 also has a web browser. That means Hulu, Youtube and a ton of other sites. All free streaming.

Sony had no reason to say anything, but since they don't want people to know you can watch porn for free on their console I guess they had to say something

DaTruth3154d ago (Edited 3154d ago )

"Netflix is steaming no downloading needed." Ha ha ha lol!!!

That comment was the fail of all failure!

NaiNaiNai3153d ago

@DaTruth

actually its not. streaming is chaching the data, its not being downloaded to anything. >.> if it was you would have to delete the files from your HDD every time you watched. so your just making yourself look like a idiot.

also to the guy who said the ps3 has a internet browser.

T_T how many people actually use that. its slow, and clunky. T_T yea i can watch youtube on my ps3. with the speed of 56kx2
-nai-

ericnellie3153d ago

If you Sony boys don't like the service Xbox Live is providing, why don't you just watch the free "B" movies on PSN or just play with your avatars in that broken and bugged beta called Home. I'll stick to Live - thank you!!

Sheikh Yerbouti3153d ago

"PlayStation Network users have free access to the content they want."

So do XBL live users netflix is not XBL content its another services all together.

-You have to pay for a Netflix subscription and LIVE. It is not free, even before you select a movie.

"PlayStation Network's video delivery service is the ability to transfer standard-definition content from the PS3 system to the PSP system."

Would anyone really watch a movie on a 3 inch screen.

-I have. I watch shows on a smaller iPod screen too, as do millions of others.

"In a recent experiment by MTV Multiplayer, PlayStation Network was found to be the fastest service for downloading"

Netflix is steaming no downloading needed. Plus You are require to install demoes and games after you downlaod them so in the end psn is the slowest on there is.

-You can stream a movie from PSN while it downloads...no wait. It is pretty quick too.

"PlayStation Network provides HD content reliably without waiting for streaming connections that might not ever be made."

Dont know of anyone thats never been about to get a connection on netflix. XBL aslo has HD movies you can download

-You do have to wait for a buffer in PSN, but I've been very happy with te results.

"allows users to easily stream content and watch videos through internet sites on their"

You can do that on the xbox too

-XBox still has terribly low RAM in comparison to the PS3, which makes streaming a long tedious wait for some.

"New Movie Release"

Netflix carries all new release on dvd and blu ray

-So does sony.

sony looks like complete idoits by their statements

-No, just yourself.

Well got a bunch of disagree already for all the SDF member in here and since I'm sure I'll get more I dare anyone to prove anything I said wrong

Godmars2903153d ago (Edited 3153d ago )

How does streaming not involve some downloading if data caching is involved? Why do you have to have a HDD to use it?

Below:
Pretty sure that an Arcade owner, who just has the 1/4GB memory with most of it taken up by XBL, isn't really going to know or care about the differences between downloading and cache streaming. They're just going to have problems with watching Netflix. Any movies off XBL for that matter.

NaiNaiNai3153d ago

you noticed i used a different term of download. >.> let me reword if for you idiot ps3 fans. T_T called saving, *usually downloads means its saved to a file on a solid object you can touch, netflix does not "save anything to your 360, besides a real fast cache.*

-nai-

Arnon3153d ago (Edited 3153d ago )

"-You can stream a movie from PSN while it downloads...no wait. It is pretty quick too."

rofl no... it's not quick at all. It can only "stream" what you have downloaded.. meaning it can get cut if pretty quickly. Streaming means that the files are being stored in a cache file and are viewable instantly.. If you were downloading a movie and streaming it at the same time, it would constantly have to buffer due to the fact it doesn't store a damn thing and can only work if you've downloaded a large portion of the movie already.

"-XBox still has terribly low RAM in comparison to the PS3, which makes streaming a long tedious wait for some."

RAM? Low on the 360? And for that matter.. RAM? Ok, now I KNOW you have no idea what you are talking about rofl. For one, the RAM on the 360 is more accessible than the PS3, as it is unified. Not to mention the Netflix streaming network is running on it's own dedicated server.

skimming3153d ago

Come on.

Instead of trying to belittle MS/Netflix integration, you should be calling on Sony to up their support to include Netflix.

Please stop defending lack of an extremely useful feature. Start a petition so that Sony can bring Netflix in to its fold.

This FUD spread is the height of fanboyism.

DaTruth3153d ago (Edited 3153d ago )

The term is "downLOADING" not downsaving. it does not matter where the data is loading to. It is a term designed to explain the movement of information from one computerized source to another the down side being the receiver. It does not matter what it "usually" means. And a cache is just short term storage.

+ Show (10) more repliesLast reply 3153d ago
OGharryjoysticks3154d ago

I can't click the link because I enjoyed Max Payne very much so I'm hoping they make a sequel and they can use whatever building Kotaku rents a room in and blow that sucker up :)

Sevir043154d ago

" terrible movies captured in stellar Blu-ray clarity like Max Payne "
i really couldn'ts ee what was so bad about Max pain, but i suppose thats all subjective... :] kotaku...... Teh!!!!

Kaneda3154d ago

I thought 360 is just for gaming... :) who cares about movies, right?

TheHater3154d ago (Edited 3154d ago )

and I still can't believe that people are still using the argument that the PS3 is just a blu-ray player. I had my Playstation 3 for over 3 years now and have still yet to watch a movie on it.

San Frandisco3154d ago

dude seriously? you havnt watch a single movie on your ps3 in 3 freaging years man?
dude your missing out ,BLU-RAY FTW sucka's... i fully utilize everything my ps3 has to offer (movies,games,web browsing,linux,music,pictures, streaming ect ect..)-

as far as this articles goes... there was an article on here not to long ago (earlier today i believe) that i was reading that theres a site or media server thingy that can stream your netflix thru your web-browers on your ps3.

if so then 360 officially and most importantly EPICLY fails to do any damage or ovehaul to the ps3's capabilities.

Torch3153d ago (Edited 3153d ago )

San Frandisco is 100% right: The PS3's ability to be a full-blown media center is nothing short of amazing.

I recommend you install TVersity Media server - or even better: the recent PS3-specific PS3 Media Server - to your PC, and stream all your media files to your PS3 (or PSP if you have one!).

I can't imagine doing without it, to be honest. I can't recall when the last time was I inserted a non-Blu-Ray movie into the disc slot, as all my movies are in a digital file format, be it DivX, MP4, AVI, etc.

It can handle most anything...and well.

Regarding the article:

Is it just me, or has Kotaku lately been doing some major Sony ass-kissing? As far as I'm concerned, they can stick with their fine stroking of Microsoft, as I couldn't care less for their tabloid-style BS articles, be they positive or negative.

mrdxpr23153d ago

@The hater u exagerated do u work for sony cause the ps3 has been out for only 2 years yet alone u have it for over 3 year ???? .... back in to subject i have downloaded 3 mshows on psn and have 4 blurays not much but i buy pirated movies the only movies i buy is the ones i want to have a good quality out of it :)

+ Show (1) more replyLast reply 3153d ago