Submitted by Columbo 2371d ago | article

How to fix Mass Effect

Jarvis Slacks writes:

"Mass Effect was, hands down, one of my favorite games of 2007. Yes, it has an amazing amount of problems. The vehicle physics were enough to make my brain explode on the regular. Add to that the clunky combat and the dreaded "Unreal pop in", and it was truly a labor of love to finish the game. Man oh, what a love affair it was. This week, there has been some loose talk of the sequel. It got me thinking: what are the five things that could make Mass Effect 2 way, way better?" (Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2, PC, Xbox 360)

Why dis  +   2371d ago
OLD spam.
Bad Editing. Remove PS3 channel.

ME2 is coming to the 360 and the PC version soon after as the devs said.
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Maddens Raiders  +   2371d ago
Don't worry -
it's going to be alright. The first step is actual acceptance of a ((major)) mass-e-flop.

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RebornSpy  +   2371d ago
Are you saying that Mass Effect was a flop? You are very wrong, my friend.
Maddens Raiders  +   2371d ago
tsk tsk tsk -
trying to cover up that 6.75? Revisionist history won't work here.
Danja  +   2371d ago
definately not a flop..one of my fave games of 2007 , but it was flawed over-all....looking forward to the sequel..

and the PS3 version..XD
RebornSpy  +   2371d ago
You are thinking of Too Human...
That game is a flop. We're talking about Mass Effect. How can anyone get so confused that they say Mass-e-flop, then link something about too human, then continue talking about too human? That's pretty bad, man.
Halochampian  +   2371d ago
since when did Too Human = Mass effect?
Maddens Raiders  +   2371d ago
Ha -
I got my X-flops mixed up! This is all I got to say about that....

morganfell  +   2371d ago
Well it does have serious issues:


How does the Mako get back on board the Normandy?
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Maddens Raiders  +   2371d ago
(...........) -
1.8 -
Well it does have serious issues:


How does the Mako get back on board the Normandy?
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"An elevator simulator.." lmfao
pixelsword  +   2371d ago
I liked Mass Effect, but did anyone think the M35Mako was a rip-off of this vehicle?
The vehicle from Moon Patrol?

Related video
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hay  +   2370d ago
Mass Effect is really good game. It's one of those really few games I started another career right after finishing it. It wasn't perfect, but hell, it's f*cking awesome.
JsonHenry  +   2370d ago
I am playing the game on the PC right now. I don't have the pop in problems due to the fact my settings are maxed out. But I have to agree with the Vehicle physics. Sometimes it is just like "WTF???".

Also - I have no idea what he is talking about when it comes to the combat being clunky. Feels alright to me.
No Way  +   2370d ago
@Maddens Raiders -
You do realize they are talking about Mass Effect, not Too Human, right? ;)

And, if you consider Mass Effect a flop, then I'm sure every game you have played on the PS3 is also a flop.. which is not the case.
mintaro  +   2371d ago
He's right as of now nothing has been said about the PS3, so this should not be in the PS3 channel.
Huh  +   2371d ago
make sure the game supports sixaxis controls that will make it a bit better imo
Lord Vader  +   2371d ago
Six axis controls = LMAO !

See "Lair" for more information...
Johnny Rotten  +   2371d ago
I hear ya bro, I've been waiting for it to come to the PS3.
Why dis  +   2371d ago
For mini games maybe etc. I think overall 360 fans would see sixaxis controls as G@Y as fuc, devs would see it as a waste of time most likely, being a WRPG.
Kal853  +   2371d ago
Maybe I'm alone here but I thought it was another fantastic Bioware gem, so much that I played it twice in a row. I didn't notice any outstanding problems with it at all. I won't go as far a saying the author is nitpicking - maybe this is even the general consensus of the game, but it seems to me that these are very minor flaws in an otherwise epic sci-fi rpg.
JokesOnYou  +   2371d ago
same here...
yeah, I've had some slow down and it glitches a bit here and there but I never experienced any problems where the game was anywhere close to unplayable, they were minor hic-cups imo, I'd say the load times for the elevator sequence was a bigger annoyance than any of the small glitches, and still it wasn't a big deal. Overall the game ran fine on my 360....truly one of the best games I have ever played on any console. Loved it.

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MiloGarret  +   2370d ago
Yeah me too, I thought Mass Effect was an outstanding gaming experience, and pretty much the only game I've ever played with a more or less well put together story and characters.
However there were A LOT of issues, my main problems were the maco controls and physics and the abominable framerate. I don't even care about the pop-in, fix the framerate! The worst problem I've had though (since NXE), and still have, is that it simply will not play, it gets stuck after character creation, every single time, I can't play the fücking thing!
Tried a friends copy, same thing, greeeeat. If it wasn't for the fact that I've already played it 3 times before, I'd be more upset, but still, I really wanted to try out the sentinel class...
Tony P  +   2371d ago
Better sidequests and better use of the galaxy ftw.

The sidequests were terribly bland for a Bioware game, always ending in a shootout or the infiltration of some repetitive base/science station/outpost.

The galaxy map is a great idea, but actually landing on planets to find they're essentially undeveloped sucked big time. I like discovering civilizations and new settlements. It annoyed me that the only towns in the game were all plot relevant. Nothing new out there to find but a few ruins and mineral veins. Such a galaxy simply needs more stuff.

To that end, I hope ME2 is much bigger. Even if it has to have two discs for the 360 version.
Kal853  +   2371d ago
I have to agree
Those are all good points. I guess I'm just remembering the overall experience. I had those same quibbles back then too. I guess it was so cinematic that I'd pretty much forgotten.
Why dis  +   2371d ago
"Even if it has to have two discs for the 360 version"

When the PC version comes out some months after the 360 version as the devs have said, you are saying *the PC version won't need more than one disc for the retail version but the 360 will* lol? Those are the announced platforms.

You can find the media ME1 and ME2 uses on the right side of this page.
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Gaidrius  +   2371d ago
Haha. Blu ray would solve that 2-disc problem. But that would be a foreign thing to the 360, wouldn't it?
Why dis  +   2371d ago
The game would have to be downgraded for PS3 because of the RAM issue. This is a memory hungry game(e) I read about it, comes from the devs mouth.

LOL at the disagrees I'm getting in my first comment. The contributor tried to spread misinformation based on his theories/wants/wishes.
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kewlkat007  +   2371d ago
". Blu ray would solve that 2-disc problem. But that would be a foreign thing to the 360, wouldn't it?"
Yes as foreign as, "Mandatory Installs" eh..

I Actually couldn't finish this game, didn't like the controls much.
Tony P  +   2371d ago
Thanks for the link dis, but this was a wish list and not me pretending to throw out facts.

I'm glad you don't have that many bubbles though. You need to chill.
Gaidrius  +   2371d ago
@why dis
Memory hungry? Sure, a game can be memory hungry all it wants, but did you forget about the EIGHT processors inside the PS3?
Graphics Whore  +   2370d ago
@Why Dis
Ram Issue? The PS3 has better ram than the Xbox 360 lol. Gotta point and laugh at ignorant fanboys.
Consoldtobots  +   2371d ago
thats easy, put it on PS3.
RebornSpy  +   2371d ago
Of course!
Because no PS3 games have problems!
buy a ps3  +   2371d ago
no but the ps3 has more memory and power and that alone would fix the games top 10 problems. please use some logic.
RebornSpy  +   2371d ago
Top 10 problems...
According to you or the article? Because pretty much all of the issues in the article would not be fixed if the game was ported. Only graphic pop up would be fixed possibly, and possibly load times, though that's not a sure thing.

I'm all for a PS3 version of the game, but I don't think it will be much better than the original. Just the same awesome game.
Lord Vader  +   2371d ago
Probably the worst Mass Effect article I've ever read. No wait...

It definately was.

A game the size of Mass Effect is going to have to repeat some enviroments & character models, unless you want a 5 hour RPG instead of a 30+ hour RPG. Freakin' 8 hour FPS's repeat enviroments & chracter models...

Of course the gameplay could be improved, but Mass Effect has some of the best gameplay I've ever encountered in an RPG. All the other point were completely moronic.

Bioware delivered an exceptional & rich experience, the best story in a videogame this Gen by far, so don't question their storyline points until you can write a more Epic script than Bioware can.
JokesOnYou  +   2371d ago
Don't get me wrong, I'm not against anyone pointing out the minor flaws, legit criticism is good because of course gamers want those things ironed out in the sequel and I'm sure Bioware is hard at work making the sequel even better, but its just not possible to hate on this game, seriously ME was truly an amazing experience.

Why dis  +   2371d ago
Holding on
I hated when you explore dig sites and after you unlock or take objects you get stuck and can not move in the marker area sometimes having to turn the console off to resolve the issue(before and fixes were released)
Lord Vader  +   2370d ago
I agree that elevators (load times) were long, there was texture pop on occasion, & the vehicle's handling wasnt the best... but the overal cineamtic experience made it very easy to overlook these niggles. No game is perfect.

But the author did not address any of those well known points.

I have heard of the game locking up on people, but I have never experienced that, or getting my vehicle stuck. Next time, press the thrusters if you get stuck would be my suggestion.
Kal853  +   2371d ago
One of the all time best
ME was and is still one of the best written, acted and beautiful produced rpgs I've ever played. It is a masterpiece. That is not an opinion, it is a fact. It is also a fact that nothing is perfect. Any and all games have areas that can be improved up on. Mass Effect happens to excel in almost every one of it's components, but can, and I'm sure will be improved and further evolved in it's sequels. That is what storytelling is all about. And for western rpgs Bioware happens be the best at it. Okay that last sentence was an opinion.
buy a ps3  +   2371d ago
step 1: be a ps3 exclusive
caffman  +   2370d ago
so........fix mass effect 1 by making it an exclusive on a console that its never been released on
the level of stupidity in that statement makes me wince.Please come back when you have at least the intellect of a small weasel
Lord Vader  +   2370d ago
You belong over there ------------------------>
buy a ps3  +   2370d ago
please you may not agree with my logic but if you really read my comments you would know that i'm not i fanboy but i think mass effect 2 would be better if it could utilize the power of the ps3.
RebornSpy  +   2371d ago
What's with all these fanboys?
Mass Effect would be no better if it was on the PS3. It might be a bit better looking, but not enough to actually make a huge difference. I guess this is what happens when you make it viewable to the PS3 section...
buy a ps3  +   2371d ago
the ps3 is much more powerful and would be able to fix the pop in and bad physics which by the way are the two largest problems with the game.
00  +   2371d ago
The elevators
Get rid of them that's all that I ask.
FantasyStar  +   2371d ago
Looks like someone dislikes Elevator music! hah!
outlawlife  +   2371d ago
the elevators were hidden loading screens so thats the only reason you had to deal with them
FantasyStar  +   2371d ago
We could definitely have more variety in the side-missions. I blame the lack of variety and other spices on the DVD-9. Everything about Mass Effect was great, other than the side-quests. If they can fix the side-quests: I would be so happy.

You'd have to be an outright hater not to like something about Mass Effect, although I disagree with the article about the romance and someone dieing. If anything else the fact that someone dies lets me know who to treat like trash =D.
outlawlife  +   2371d ago
i loved this game but honestly there was too much talking, even for a bioware game

i spent hours running around just having conversations with people before anything really interesting happened

the inventory system also really really sucked...that needs definite revamping

overall i enjoyed the game, i'd give it a solid 8 but it can be much much better
Antan  +   2370d ago
The only problems i had were just the technical issues everyone knows about, which is down to the Unreal engine, After Gears 2 im sure ME2 will be a better technical experience.
Firstkn1ghT  +   2370d ago
Minor problems doesn't take away the fact that Mass Effect is one of the greatest RPG's ever.
Foxgod  +   2370d ago
I will love Mass Effect 2, 2009 is gonna own in the games area.
I am looking forward to Star Ocean 4, Halo wars, Resident evil 5, Prototype, Borderlands, Mass effect 2, Splinter cell conviction, Section 8, Tales of Vesperia (EU), Street fighter 4, Fear2, Legends of Wrestlemania, Ghostbusters, Alpha Protocol, Dues EX3, Red faction, Biosshock 2, brutal legends, Halo 3 odst, Tekken 6, Alan wake, Batman, Bayonetta, Beyond good and evil 2, COD warfare 2, Dead island, Doom4, Hl2 ep3, I am alive, Mafia 2, Overlord 2, Omikron, POstal 3, White gold.

Nuts :), even more then 2008, theres a gaming avalanche coming....
The Judderman  +   2370d ago
Greatest rpg ever made. Bring on the sequel.
CobraKai  +   2370d ago
I want it to be more cinematic. The dialogue angles were great and the cinemas they did have were cool. (Especially the part with the *WOAH* and that scene with the *AW COOL*). But in my opinion, it didn't feel as epic as it could have been. Oh and the pop up textures really distracted me. I would rather have great yet stable graphics rather than cramming every special effect and shader on screen then having it pop in and out. But I hear that is one of the problems of the Unreal engine.
Bumpmapping  +   2370d ago
How to fix Mass Effect....
Dont use the Outdated engine 3!
Lol Sauce  +   2370d ago
The main downsides of this game are what it could've had. The actual game in itself actually didn't have too many downsides in the game.

The two main problems were the saving and maybe too much conversation. Fortunately the skipping feature made it easy to skip past the conversations.
PS360PCROCKS  +   2370d ago
"Hands down, the coolest thing about Mass Effect is that you could pick someone to fall in love with, develop the relationship, and then bump uglies right before the epic final battle."

How did I play the game 3 separate times and never encounter this? Maybe I did, I dunna, but I don't remember any relationships.
No Way  +   2370d ago
Amazing game, had it's problems, but still one of my favorite games.
Can't wait for the second.
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