"We have all seen the reports of Sony stating that there will be not be a price drop for the PlayStation 3 anytime soon, but do you believe this to be true?" -TheGamerAccess.com
We all know what happens when the PS3 and 360 are closer in price. Killzone 2 will be a massive system seller and since the 360 can`t even run games like Killzone 2, it only makes the PS3 look more and more appealing being the same or just closer in price. This will happen VERY soon.
Like I said at the end of Sony's Fiscal Period they will drop the price by 100 bucks. Sony said they wanted to sell 23 million if I am not mistaking without a price drop and it's working fine. By April which is the end of that period I predict around 24 million or so. TGSI
I'm gonna say "YES" to that question. Any price cuts would only help sell Playstations. Any evidence so far should point out that Sony's true goals lie elsewhere. I love my PS3, but I'm starting to have SERIOUS questions when it comes to Sony. I have to say I agree with Sony that there will be no price drop and despite claims to beef up advertising, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say no "sensible" advertising from Sony anytime soon. And DEFINITELY no SuperBowl KZ2 ads as that would just make too much sense. Trying my ABSOLUTE best at reverse psychology, but I doubt that will even work (-_-;)
winning console wars.
"Sony said they wanted to sell 23 million if I am not mistaking without a price drop and it's working fine" Why do PS3 fans keep ignoring the fact that Sony did a DESPERATION PRICE DROP in 2007? Sony did do a price drop already after only 6 months in the market in N. America and 3 months in Europe. And you guys call M$ price drop of $100 in a 3 year span desperate... @Madden LOL! Typical blind fanboy comment when the PS3 is currently last behind the 360 and the almighty Wii.
A price drop will only help any system. The PS3 is nearing the point where the price should come down. U hear people say when the price of the 360 and PS3 are closer it will be game over for MS. All I can see is if the PS3 lowers their price, MS will lower the price of the 360. The one year production head start has lowered the cost of manufacturing the 360. If the 360 responds to a PS3 price drop then Ninty mat eventually follow suit, but that's a big BUT. Because until MS or Sony become a significant threat to Ninty (sales wise) they are not likely to respond. Let's have fun and leave the sales numbers to the company and reps.
selling at $399, $499, and $599. That's ownage! :)
@jaysquared - I think you'd call the Xbox price drop late 2008 desperate, because it was being consistently beaten by PS3 in every territory. Anyway it's just business, not desperation so STFU. On topic - I think Sony may drop the price, but I don't see it happening soon, especially in the current economic climate. If sales decline severely they could do a price cut in April, but other than that they could easily keep selling at the current price, and do a big price cut at Xmas 09 (and get all the sales back like the 360 did last year).
umm no. how can a $100 price drop for a product that's being out for 3 years be a desperation price drop.. If that was desperation then what what does a $100 price drop after 6 months in the market?
I predict a price drop in October. There is no need to drop the price right now. They arent exactly dying, oh wait I forgot playstation is DOOOMED!!
oh yes my PS3 is dead i will be attending its funeral with many other PS3s. /sarcasm
@jay - that was kinda a requirement for Sony to get 3rd party backing, if you look back you'll see that many many devs were not happy about the PS3's price, so Sony dropped the price. Business is business, supply and demand, if demand goes low you drop the price. Exactly what MS did, and what Sony will do and Nintendo will do it as well when it's needed.
"Killzone 2 will be a massive system seller" No. "and since the 360 can`t even run games like Killzone 2" Snore. Teh power of the cell!1one! You've got to be joking.
So what your saying is that the Cell processor has nothing to do with the graphics that Killzone 2 is producing? Please find me one 360 game that runs in 720p, has lighting, physics, and animation as good as K2 on top with 7.1 surround sound. Isn't the 360 the one easier to develop for? Is is not the graphics card on the 360 theoretically superior than the RSX? Don't you think its power should have been tapped "before" the PS3.
as ususal, you can always be counted on to bring some totally pathetic sony obsessed fanboy nonsense into a thread....a life is needed perhaps???? plain rice: find me a game that has been in development, and has had as much money lavished on it as kz2...and dont say too human, that had 2 year dev
Halo 3 had a total budget of 60 million, that's a pretty impressive number next to Killzone's 54 so far. In fact didn't Halo have something like 300 people working on it simultaneously? That's a pretty huge number compared to Guerilla's 140. It's not Microsoft's fault they can't produce playable Killzone 2 graphics, the hardware just isn't good enough.
ehhhh wrong. read one of my previous posts post 1.28 i think http://n4g.com/NewsCom-2160...
No matter if price drop occurs or not, Sony will not appreciate this type of speculation. All this does is add more FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) about PS3 for potential customers. For myself, I certain will now wait until this drop pans out. Meanwhile, one less customer for Sony. Perhaps MS be behind this rumor...
uhhh............ Alan Wake. That game has been announced at E3 05. The same time when K2 was unveiled, yet K2 is the only one with its promised graphics and what, an actual release date. Don't be so blind, kid. BTW why shouldn't I bring up Too Human? Even if they had 2 years of actual dev time, they had an entire decade to come up with AAAA gameplay. Don't you think during those other years they've already thought about the story line, gameplay, etc...? Are you aware that the team behind K2 has been doing R&D for the PS3 while co-developing K2 at the same time. Their engine assets will be shared upon other 1st and 2nd party PS3 dev teams. And if you want to talk about budgets and all that, Halo 3 is the epitome of over spending.
I believe there will have been a price drop of at least 50$ by the end of summer. When and if more than 50$ can be discussed to the day they announce it.
the price goes down by 50 quid.. i am buyin a ps3 for myself, and younger brothers each.. with kz2 hope they really do they would see sales beyond imagination.
It would be the best strategy for Sony at the moment to push even more sales of Killzone 2.
COD4 moved alot of systems on BOTH platforms, I don`t see why Killzone 2 won`t do the same, but only for PS3 obviously.
Killzone 2 already has well over a million preorders so I expect it to sell at least 2-3 million the first week.It will definitely sets records for the PS3.
Killzone 2 can do without the pricedrop ofcourse :) But think about a Pricedrop on forexample the bundle with KZ2? It would really be moving consoles together with the game and a higher rate i believe.
Of course it would but it would benefit Sony more if they kept the system the same price for the first month or two to get the hardcore Killzone 2 fans and then once the sales start to slow down, announce the price drop.
Yes i can see the point in that :)
I can see a $50 to $100 price drop (more likely $50 with a pack-in game) maybe announced at E3. I don't remember many console price drops occurring the first half of the year. They usually drop it late Summer/early Fall to cash in on Holiday sales. Correct me if I'm wrong.
@HD or if you're lighningps3ps3, he's a confused little fanboy.
Definatley, a price cut now will help. I do not think you need one, because KZ2 needs no help. It would not hurt though. If I were you all I would not get caught up on how many copies of KZ2 sales. It is obviously raising the bar this gen. Do not let this justify if the game is good or not. I heard some of my coworkers say that they were not going to get the game for their kids because of the name KILLzone. It will be way to violent said one. I told them you should be able to turn the blood/gore off. It's good that parent are not buying ther kids whatever game is out there. I was playing Gears 2 the other day with a 6 year old on XBL, what???? Well, my children will not be playing it, but I have a copy pre-ordered.
how many times have we said this and nothing happened?
Yes, EXACTLY thank you. I'm so tired of someone taking something we know we all want and then turning it into news. Then everybody starts commenting on it like it's actually gonna happen when NO ONE has heard anything from the one group that actually has any power over the situation. Until big SONY says that they're gonna make a move, you guys need to be like Flava Flave and just don't believe the hype.
They've stated already they can't drop the price, as cost of manufacturing is too high, maybe around christmas this earliest but posting this now is a waste of time and space as it isn't going to happen anytime soon.
If you read the article, yo uwould clearly understand why Sony is making these statements.
And I think it's wrong. Stringer has already stated that Sony is more concerned with profitability rather than marketshare in regards to the PS3. I don't think you'll see a price drop until Sony can cut the price as well as make a profit on each unit sold. The company as a whole is bleeding cash and the gaming division is the one tiny bright spot (even though it only showed a $4 million profit last quarter it was still profit). Why would they take away the cash flow with a price cut? And in regards to the Dell sale, the price cut was applied to the 360 as well. Does that mean that Microsoft is going to cut the price?
I hope so;) Saying that...it did well last year the PS3 at it's still high price.
When Ps3 price dropped 360 will die soon
yah! for sure may be their changing their minds due to kz2 and u2at
With the 2008 console sales being the PS3 almost equal on the cheap-ass 360, I highly doubt Sony will do a price cut this year.
btw, wtf is a "PP"???????? i've been asking this for months!
would people just give up on the whole "price drop" thing. its gettting retarted now- if it happens then h3ll yes but if not then i dont see wuts the problem.... these articles need to stop whining all the time seriously. weve had at least a couple hundred (FoS) of these articles up in here. "We have all seen the reports of Sony stating that there will be not be a price drop for the PlayStation 3 anytime soon, but do you believe this to be true?" ^ we want to but who knows ,all i know is that we are all focused on KILLZONE 2 atm and will think of that stuff afterwards unless a miracle happens and sony drops the price literally RIGHT before KZ2's released on shelves. heres a question for you dudes out there: would you rather have sony put most their time into advertising there hardware and software (especially)? or go for a price cut? cuz im sure that the more and more the fans complain or beg or wutever,then sooner or later (hopefully sooner) sony will answer our requests. imo i would use all the whining/beggeing/complaining ect ect on advertising for sony.
Im trying to raise enough money by my birthday (March 10th) and if a price drop happens by then...I will be a happy Panda :) Anyone know of good deals online or at stores that i could use? ty
Try newegg.com that's where I order things
A new 80 Gig PS3 is $300 with a $100 off promotion. There is no interest or finance charges for 1 year so you could get it by March 10 & pay it off easily: http://www.sonyrewards.com/... A new 256 Meg Xbox 360 is $150 at Conns & is the Arcade HDMI model. http://www.conns.com/73482.... There was a $150 off SonyRewards promotion over the holidays, which I took advantage of. I've not yet taken advantage of this deal from Conns but I do have this extra $150 lying around from the great deal I got on the PS3...so you never know. (insert joke about being 'Conned' ;) The current PS3 deal expires at the end of Sony's fiscal year, March 31. This is why I have said before a price drop anytime before that or shortly after is very unlikely...Even if there was one, with this deal you still paid about the same, $300! In either event I suggest an extended warranty. The PS3 SonyRewards deal already comes with double the 1-year warranty as a bonus! I hope you enjoy it...Anyone have any suggestions for great first games to get started with? .
Sony needs to do what Apple did with the iphone and drop the price drastically so it can get much larger sales.. I remember when the Iphone was $400.00 for the longest time and not many people bought them (except for me, i bought one at $400.00 and now i have the 3G) but anyway.. Then all of a sudden last year Apple annonces that HUGE price cut of $200.00 and people bought them by the tons.. If sony would lower the price by say $150.00 and price the 80gb at $249.99, there would be no stopping sony.. I guarantee they would sell on average ATLEAST 800 thousand ore more units a month at that price.. They could keep it at that price for a long time and evntually they wont be losing money anymore because in a years time it might only cost sony $200.00 to develop the PS3.. A massive, sudden price drop worked for apple with the iphone and it would work for sony as well, with the ps3
Dude if sony made the ps3 150 they would be giving it away because the blu ray the wifi and all the things they put in dont cost $1 to make so calm down, the lowest has to be down by $50
haha about time.
e.g 100 dollars or more, I expect wii-like sales
the disagrees are pointless at $300 the PS3 will offer the must bang for buck in the electronic division, it will pulverize any halo bundle, halo candy, halo clothing, halo halo halo halo halo halo halo, halo on halo. good bye 360, it was a nightmare having one
Sony could just package Killzone 2 with the console... knock $50 off the price and give a $50 PSN voucher and they would sell off the shelve... however they are more likely to just take $50-$100 off the price and it will still sell well... Killzone 2 will define the console... like it or loathe it... it is going to live up to the hype... and if Sony drop the price on the same day or around that time... they are going to be catching up a good amount of ground...
Its funny how the author is all proud of his theory? WTF!! Sense when was he the first to think this up. Everyone knows its going to happen. Analysts have been saying April or March. Here's something else for your blog. The 360 and Wii might see price cuts at the same time.
Sony will drop the price when they're ready.
sony already loses about $50 from each console sold..how could a further price drop be of any use to sony??
How much money does Sony lose on the $499.00 160gb model? Exactly, you and I have no clue. To be totally honest, we don't know if Sony is losing ANY money on ANY console. They have never outright come out and confirmed nor denied the fact. All they have ever said is that "...[Sony] would like to make a profit by 'X' date." That comment is vague. It doesn't necessarily rule out the notion that they are possibly breaking even on the 80 gig and possibly profitting on the 160 gig. This is a theory, nonetheless; but a clear argument could be made from said theory my friend. +Bubbles for your argument though homie! -Rip-Ridah
PS3 does not need a price drop. People just need a job, and stop complaining about the price.
Right... Millions are getting laid off from their jobs... And you're telling people to get a job... That's just not very nice. But I can agree to a certain point, the PS3 is well worth the price tag.
if you cant find a job, you have no place buying an expensive toy. :)
You keep loosing money, you'll never break even. With the way the Economy is it's a big RISK. Every time you get close to breaking even or making profit, you can't dropping the price another $100 bucks. Sony has to ride the turbulent times. Now at what cost, I'm not sure. Maybe Market-share might widen. Look at Nintendo with it's price and casual games.
Sony hasn't dropped price in ages, yet the PS3 keeps getting cheaper to make. If they aren't making money yet they would be very close. It was a year ago they announce it was only $400 to make a PS3 and you can be sure when they do drop price it wont be out of desparation, it will be in line with their business model and they will be able to afford it. M$ are the ones who keep slashing their prices and profit. Everytime Sony has built momentum and things were looking up for them, M$'s answer was a price drop to keep them in the game. I'm not knocking the strategy, its certainly worked as far as selling units go. But just how much profit do you think they are making, if any. How much CAN they make on a $199 console? I wouldn't think, that much. Its not like they were making heaps of profit before their price drop. I believe that Sony lossing heaps while M$ makes heaps is a myth. A year and a half ago maybe, but things have changed.
Look at history and Price-cuts and you'll see MS is exactly where it wasn't to be with it's price. Given, they have never really had a full $100 price-cut of the console. It's been $50 dollars here and there between the SKU's. With this Bad Economy, what's important, is that you are not loosing money on consoles made. Regardless which console had the most cuts. The consoles still have to be affordable. If we say that Magic Market-Price will be at $199, like it always have been in the past then Sony is not any closer to it. Even at $2999 the competition have more breathing room given the Economic situation. Sony does not. Right now they are focused on making money and they know hey can afford to keep the PS3 at it's current price. They also have PS2 and PSP to help out.
See comment 14.1 homie. -Rip-Ridah
They cant announce a price drop because everyone will be waiting until they drop the price, and sales will dramatically decrease.
I believe Sony's strategy for profitability was WAY before the current economic times. While profitability is important, so is install base and continued sales (especially in these competitive times). Look at Microsoft for example. While other businesses are going bankrupt, closing and recording losses (hell, any loss), Microsoft INCREASED profit (2%, but still an increase) and has closed studios and let go pieces of their GAMING division die. Sony isn't bleeding money, at one time yes, but the consolidation of manufacturing, bonus cuts, and restructuring of their television divisions are widely considered measures to stop said bleeding. So far, SCE has been unscathed. I don't see a price cut tomorrow, but I do expect it by April at a price of $299 and $399. A $299 PS3 >x10 $299 360.
I see no fault with the logic, its all probably true. My question is, if you know why they dont announce a pricedrop before it happens, why are you going around telling everyone there is going to be one. And not posing it as a question either, but stating it like its fact. Its not up to journalist, writers or any jerk with a blog to announce price drops and slow sales. Obviously nothing can be done about people speculating, but just let Sony do the announcing, otherwise if they dont get the incoming revenue they planned for, a price drop might actually be further away. Thats might all sound silly to you, I guess its just a sore spot for me because it especially pissed me off when Aaron Greenberg said a couple months ago Sony would drop price soon. Again, its none of his business and none his place to be slowing PS3 sales unless of course ita by showing how good an XBox is. People with a soapbox should be careful what they say when standing on it.
not sure if i'm going to agree with a $100 price drop. times are tough at sony and showing even a little profit helps the company. unless producing ps3 got drastically cheaper.. i would assume and also think its not a bad idea to do two price drops this year. a $50 price drop soon.. like spring or next month. then follow up with a another $50 price drop during the next xmas holiday season to keep the momentum going.
no, PS3 is doing fine as it is. The upcoming games give more reasons to keep it at $400, which is already a great deal. $100 drop will drive sales crazy, unfortunately it might be the beginning of the end for the beloved 360 :)