Killzone 2 has been touted as the next Halo killer by both media and fanboys alike. While Killzone 2 will likely be an excellent genre defining shooter, it's placement in all the hype has become a big mistake. The first is calling it a Halo killer.
Blame yourselves(the media). You got Halo-Killer, LBP-Killer, Final Fantasy-Killer, GTA-Killer etc. I don't get the last part of his paragraph. It's like totally contradicting his point. So he's saying that gamers should learn that there's no such thing as a game killer but it's ok when the media does it?
Yep i agree lol u cant really compare killzone 2 to halo imo
I think in the end he said the media doesn't become fanboys about it and are now simply trying to get hits/traffic/attention/payed vs the malice on the ground you get from fanboys wanting the opposing title to BURN.
Halo revolutionized and Killzone 2 refined.
Press agree if you think Killzone 2 will own Halo 3.
Very silly article :/
Why Dis... the problem with that is, 9/10 people take these sites as "fact" and don't think for themselves. When they label something a "Halo Killer" they are stirring the pot just as bad, but yes in a different manner. It's just as big a disservice, because the media creates these huge expectations through their OWN hype, and then if/when a game doesn't live up to them, they tear it apart. No longer are games reviewed on their own merits, but rather on the hype and name recognition of the franchise itself. It's pathetic.
The fact that people are calling Killzone a halo killer just adds to the greatness of halo. Halo 3 came out in september of 2007. Here were are in 2009 and PS3 fans are comparing Killzone 2 an unreleased game with a 15 month old (obviously legendary) game. Funny, so PS3 fans, perhaps halo was a pretty awesome game huh?
I like variety.
In fact Killzone 2 will be one of the biggest disappointments this year, just like GTA IV. mark my word. Ps3 fan's are hyping it up so much that the game is going to be a major flop.
KILLZONE II is a HALO killer. there.
I believe this game will will sell well, really well. But from all the hype that its getting, and when you compare that to what it really sells it will become a dissappointment. So many people believe that it will blow by Halo, it may but i dont think so. Reason being is that Halo has been around since last generation therefore its built up a fanbase. Killzone 1 was not very praised as a game last generation, many enjoyed but on the other hand many were dissappointed with it. Now think to yourself... If you played a game before in the past that was excellent and they decided to release a sequel you would most likely purchase it correct(Halo) since they were known to make a good game? OR you played a game in the past and you didnt like it very much, thought it was decent but got bored little quick, and they came out with a sequel(Killzone2) would you buy it, they were known from killzone1 to make a decent shooter?
people need to stop saying Killzone 2 is an "Halo Killer" the Halo killer was COD4 Killzone 2 would be the Overkiller
Just like CoD4 took from Halo 3. BUT to KILL, KZ2 need to take atleast 80% of gamers, which regularly play Halo 3. I don`t think, that this is going to happen(maybe only CoD4/CoD:WoW would really suffer), no matter how KZ2 is GREAT. =) But, who knows? =))
there will never be a Halo killer bcuz Halo is no longer the best console FPS this isn't 2001 ne more.. COD4 & KZ2 are the big doggs these days..Halo needs to go back to pre-school..
i dont think there should be any [insert game name]-killers.. it's just stupid, now unless the storyline, the characters and everything else is identical, it shouldn't be compared to each other, compare Halo 3 to Halo 2, but not Killzone 2 to Halo 3, compare Killzone 2 to Killzone 1, but not GeoW with R2..
LOL Halo revolutionized. Oh boy. Anyway, Halo Killer doesn't exist anymore, CoD4 already pulpified it by shooting it in the head with a minigun.
Yea sure, PS3 fans tell yourself, Halo 3 remains top of the Live charts even after releasing almost a year and a half ago. CoD was not the Halo killer many slate it as, you just want to pretend your happy without it on the PS3. The Halo killer tag is plain stupid, I will be enjoying Halo 3 and Killzone 2 together for many years to come.
it's purely hype.. Halo 3 only sold coz of hype.. CoD4 wasn't hyped half as much and sold nearly as much (yes i know its multiplatform but still) but Halo 3 got overtaken by CoD4 in the first few weeks.. and now its a battle between the two thanks to CoD:WaW (many went to CoD:WaW so less CoD4 players)
Actually for the 2 months before World of War released, Halo reclaimed its' top spot. I find many people play the CoD games due to the carrot and stick nature of the rewards, the gameplay itself is mediocre. This year I purchased World at War for the PS3 on the recommendation of my brother, well, this is the game I will trade in against Killzone 2.
I agree,stop the Halo killing,it's pretty obvious that Killzone 2 is better than Halo.
Halo didn't sell because of hype. Every person I know bought an Xbox only after playing Halo. In other words, Halo sold Halo. Halo did revolutionize FPS because it was the first one to prove that they can work on consoles. Everything before that had been clunky, jerky and awkward. Halo was smooth, precise and organic. Killzone - and every other console FPS - owes it's existence to Halo. If there hadn't been a Halo, there would have been no need for the "Halo-killing" Killzone 1. And if there hadn't been a Killzone 1, there wouldn't be a Killzone 2. Own it. Love it. Savor it. Every Sony fanboy who preemptively worships Killzone 2. Halo is the greatest thing to ever happen to you.
Wrong, Look up Golden Eye 007 young pup.
I misspoke. They're both revelations. There really wasn't anything very inspired between the two. Nothing came close to the fun of GoldenEye until Halo, especially when you're considering fluidity and tightness of control. Every couple of years there is a jump in the genre. Nothing's radically built upon Halo's two stick, two trigger control scheme. For my money, Rainbow 6 Vegas is a great jump forward with how it handles its cover mechanic. Arguably the tightest addition to the control scheme I've seen in years. I'm sure Killzone will do a lot of very nice things, but it's not going to redefine the genre the way GoldenEye and Halo did.
The original Halo didn't "revolutionize." It just pioneered the first successful FPS on consoles. Killzone 2, just does everything better. Infact, the most revolutionary FPS this generation would be Mirror's Edge. And look at the sales of that game. So people need to stop with the "OOoohhh FPS's need to innovate" crap. And just enjoy that specific Genre's are there for a reason. That's why there's shooters, RPGs, Racing etc. You wouldn't compare Halo 3's driving portion to Gran Turismo 5 would you? No, it's stupid. So Killzone 2 is an excellent First Person Shooter. End of story.
They said doom would get killed for a long time. It never happened and the issue died out. I think after awhile people just don't care about it getting killed or not.
Doom killed itself with Doom 3 sadly...
Cool post. Pretty much has what I said in a nutshell(folks like Halo's arcady offerings with flying and ground vehicles etc). Iconic status is hard to beat. I disagree with Gears22 and his comment in the report box.
It's his opinion but he should post it here. I've actually seen people in some forums try to disrespect Halo and say Killzone 2 will kill it. Honestly, I think Killzone 2 will match it in different ways.
The people reporting this story obviously only read the title. He's saying that media only call a game "[insert game name] killer" to get hits while they do it and set up for their inevitable biased review score, because it wasn't the "[insert game name] killer people hoped it to be", which is true. Almost every reviewer is justifying their 9 or 9,5 score with their opinion that Killzone 2 "doesn't do anything new". In reality, Killzone 2 is the first FPS to have a cover system and it also has dynamically changing game types in multiplayer. In comparison, Gears of War wasn't the first TPS to feature a cover system, it only polished it. But it was still considered original and every TPS utilizing a cover system after it was copying what Epic had created. Why the split opinions? Because the gaming press hadn't hyped GeoW to the skies.
To me he's saying that calling Killzone 2 a Halo killer will only make Killzone 2 look bad. That's all.
If I recall rainbow six las vegas has cover albeit it comes out to third person while "in it". I am very excited to get to try this all first person cover. I just can't wait for the 27th!!!!!!!!
well halo was the pinacle of fps and still is although to a less extent since halos been remade like 3 times now. it just wears it out. 8 mil sold dosnt lie, i dont know of any other fps thats sold that much on one console.
Goldeneye sold more!
I am just curious if Halo didn't sell so much would this be even a discussion? Is Halo the game that every other shooter gets compared too because it sold so much or because it really is a revolutionary FPS. It would be interesting that, if Halo sold 3 million, would the 'Halo Killer' tag still apply?
Right, 8 million sold for Halo 3. Wii Sports is going on 40 million sold. It's definitely a better game than Halo 3 according to the 360 fanboy logic. o_o
halo was already killed by call of duty 4 didnt you get the memo
Multiplatform + sold more on 360 + Halo 3 sold more then both versions separated. I don't think it really counts.
regardless of who sold more, its pretty much accepted by everyone that cod4 has taken anything and everything halo has brought to the table and improved it. i think its widely accepted that cod4 is just a better, more entertaining, more complete game than any of the halos. although im sure to get some disagrees from the halo following
So explain why Halo 3 is still being played more than Call of Duty 4? Why was Halo 3 the most played Xbox Live game of 2008? Also, take a look at these stats I pulled from Bungie.net: 1,935 Players Online in Halo 2 15,600 Halo 2 Players (Last 24 Hours) 29,130 Halo 2 Games (Last 24 Hours) 154,948 154,948 Players Online in Halo 3 909,732 Halo 3 Players (Last 24 Hours) 2,382,529 Halo 3 Games (Last 24 Hours) Care to explain these facts?
"Multiplatform + sold more on 360 + Halo 3 sold more then both versions separated. I don't think it really counts." Just because it sold more doesn't mean a thing. Based on that logic, Wii Sports is the best game around.
Maybe because there's literally nothing exciting and new to play on the Xbox 360? Did you ever think about degradation and boredem? Those numbers will degrade over time, as I'm sure they already have. People will keep playing the same games over until something new comes out and so far the only new game with excellent multi-player is Killzone 2 and it's obviously not for Xbox 360.
lol.. man.... it looks like u guys badly need a new game. tch tch. u guys can always jump out , u know. q:
halo sux why compare it lol its an insult to killzone2 ROFL no games on 360 that are good except that and gears. I wonder why so many people buy them --- overrated games. Unreal Tournament is better lol
pathetic comment. well done. 360 needs more games? for shooters, i have cod4(cod5 got traded within a week, pure sh!t imo), halo3, gears2, battlefield bad comapny and l4d! each one a top notch shooter! thats without all my other games. yeah everyone knows kz2 is on the horizon, but if theres soooooo many games on the ps3, then whys it the only game talked about now? where's resistance gone? and all the others? i dont play halo all the time because i've got more than ONE shooter to play. but i certainly play it often. although i dont like the imbalance of the weapons, i love the feel, and the vehicles are top notch! and the numbers playing daily speak for themselves. i think the question is, if kz2 was on the 360, how long would it keep halo off the top spot? cod4 is as popular as halo because it's more accessible than halo. halo takes more skill, and requires experience in order to be a good player. cod4 is much more "pick-up-and-play! anyway, enjoy kz2. i know i will when i pick up a ps3-kz2 bundle. although, it's gonna be the only shooter worth owning on the ps3 until kz3 hits. ps3= a one shooter console! see what i did there?! when that's still the most popular game on the psn in 2 years time, and everyone is saying that the ps3 is in need of new and fresh shooters, you'll know who saying things like that first!
after you pick up PS3 don't forget to get Warhawk and R2 just for the online mode. 32 players and 60 players. something you don't see on 360. plus MAG is coming out this year too... i can't even remember how many it supports at a time, the number is too big. q: and yeah beware! you might not like playing 360 games after playing those games especially KZ2. thanks to the awesome graphics! enjoy KZ2! (:
graphics dont make the game! yeah i'll be getting warhawk and resistance. i'll never stop playing the 360 though, and will continue to get multi-plats on the 360 for acheivements and live...coz thats where all my mates are. by the way, i really dont think we'll be seeing MAG til next winter(2010) at the earliest. even then i'm being optimistic! anyway thanks, i cant wait for kz2! seeing as i'm a big shooter fan. bubbles up
whoops been out of town for the weekend so i couldnt respond to your comments. i knew that id strike a chord with some of the halo fans out there. dont get me wrong, im not ragging on halo, im just saying that aside from the hardcore halo fans, i think that most people have accepted that cod4 has redefined the genre past what halo has done so far. as far as number of people playing halo vs cod4, one must remember that there are more people that own halo vs cod4. on top of that, cod:waw has split the user base in half. i mean, you claim that cod4 was only the king for a short while, but we have to remember that it is not the latest iteration in the cod franchise. to be fair, should we not compare cod4 with halo2? on top of that, halo has a cult following. the halo heads have been playing since the release of halo on the xbox1. the cod franchise has had no such large following until they released cod4, in which their franchise exploded. look at the success of cod4 as compared to cod3, and its pretty apparent that cod4 refreshed not only the franchise, as well as set the current bar for fps games, which it seems will soon be raised again with the release of kz2. halo has its own special place in video game history, successfully bringing fps games to consoles, but that does not make it the "king" of shooters. shooters have generally surpassed halo's level of game design, and until they attempt to raise the bar with their next iteration of the franchise, i stand by my belief that halo is not at the top of the shooter pyramid, and has not been for quite some time.
this is why microsoft are making the next halo a real time strategy game because they have lost the fps crown to infinity ward
Games are only killed if the memory fades away. Just like people, games exist only if people remember them.
no fool. it's an rts because ensemble make them best! and having halo in title guarantees a 2+mil seller! plus, it leaves bungie free to make the next one(halo odst), and also leaves bungie to begin the foundations for halo4 which will either launch with the next xbox, or will be within in the launch window.
Killzone 2 and Halo 3 are different games, both great in their own way, and just because one sells more than the other doesn't mean its better.
I agree and the article is in no way a bash toward either console or game. I'm really suprised it's getting such a negative response. Doesn't anyone read these before they judge them?
i know its so stupid, why cant people just appreciate both games? although i will admit it would be nice if only for a while i didnt have to endure a halo humping fest whenever gamers get together(im in the national guard, and we play games *cough halo* on our downtime during drills) theres more games out there kids
"I agree and the article is in no way a bash toward either console or game. I'm really suprised it's getting such a negative response. Doesn't anyone read these before they judge them?" I think people are just sick of journalistic hypocrisy where they are hyping up the games and then put it on fanboys when they find reason to not hype up a game.
Why would anyone want to kill Halo? It already killed itself with its mediocre gameplay.Killzone 2 is just filling the grave. You can't kill the 360 either because its already killing itself with its hardware malfunctions. Xbots cannot be killed either.They can only be contained in cages to protect the general population from their rabid un-medicated delusions
funny as hell
here's the event in which halo was killed 1. halo(specifically halo 3) tried cooking a grenade but was a second too late so it blew up 5 feet away blasting its leg off 2. cod4(the opposing war enemy) sees halo on the ground and teabags it and then brings out his pistol and BOOM! 5 nutshots and a shot to the forehead
I love how PS3 fans worship CoD as the halo killer, on x360 people have the choice of CoD or Halo, they choose Halo. On the PS3 there is no choice, just CoD, jealousy springs to mind. I consider myself more inclined towards the PS3, but I'm also a big fan of Halo and Killzone 2 won't change that as it's a different style of shooter. I have the best option, to play both.
Oh how DisaPPointing that sounds!!! ;-D Good 1, Lord Shuhei Yoshida ;)
LMAO, infinite bubbles to you sir
The real question is, will Killzone 2 even sell more than Fable 2?
People will have their preference as to what game is better, but as far as being a huge seller and part of pop culture, Sony is incapable of making a "Halo killer".
In the end, $ale$ will tell all. Blind Lemmings, If You Really Support KZ2 Then Buy It.
They're two totally different types of games, you can't compare them. The whole "______ Killer" thing is always a bad thing, a direct comparison of somethig that can't and shouldn't be compared, and gives a false sense of superiority to the "_____". It makes as much sense as asking a chick how long her wang is, and then boasting about big yours is in comparison. If you feel like games should "die", then you probably shouldn't be a part of the industry...Probably shouldn't be calling yourself a gamer either.
The only games that SHOULD be compared are sequels and their predecessors, and Sports games where rules and gameplay don't change. I could tell u right now I had more fun playing single player Doom3 over halo3, or 2(to be fair), but that in itself is an OPINION! Which means, everyone has one, and your "favorite game" or "best game" is still tied to that opinion. It doesn't make it fact.
Why does the poster INSIST on putting this is the 360 section? People these days.
Probably because Halo is a 360 GAME!
why dont you just shut up and stop posting after everyone