Stop the Halo Killing

Killzone 2 has been touted as the next Halo killer by both media and fanboys alike. While Killzone 2 will likely be an excellent genre defining shooter, it's placement in all the hype has become a big mistake. The first is calling it a Halo killer.

[rucky]

Blame yourselves(the media). You got Halo-Killer, LBP-Killer, Final Fantasy-Killer, GTA-Killer etc.

I don't get the last part of his paragraph. It's like totally contradicting his point. So he's saying that gamers should learn that there's no such thing as a game killer but it's ok when the media does it?

[Simon_Brezhnev]

Yep i agree lol u cant really compare killzone 2 to halo imo

[Why dis]

I think in the end he said the media doesn't become fanboys about it and are now simply trying to get hits/traffic/attention/payed vs the malice on the ground you get from fanboys wanting the opposing title to BURN.

[mintaro]

Halo revolutionized and Killzone 2 refined.

[will11]

Press agree if you think Killzone 2 will own Halo 3.

[xwabbit]

Very silly article :/

[Unicron]

Why Dis... the problem with that is, 9/10 people take these sites as "fact" and don't think for themselves. When they label something a "Halo Killer" they are stirring the pot just as bad, but yes in a different manner. It's just as big a disservice, because the media creates these huge expectations through their OWN hype, and then if/when a game doesn't live up to them, they tear it apart.

No longer are games reviewed on their own merits, but rather on the hype and name recognition of the franchise itself. It's pathetic.

[ARBitrator]

The fact that people are calling Killzone a halo killer just adds to the greatness of halo. Halo 3 came out in september of 2007. Here were are in 2009 and PS3 fans are comparing Killzone 2 an unreleased game with a 15 month old (obviously legendary) game.

Funny, so PS3 fans, perhaps halo was a pretty awesome game huh?

[INehalemEXI]

I like variety.

[pimp614]

In fact Killzone 2 will be one of the biggest disappointments this year, just like GTA IV. mark my word. Ps3 fan's are hyping it up so much that the game is going to be a major flop.

[Maddens Raiders]

KILLZONE II is a HALO killer. there.

[IaMs12]

I believe this game will will sell well, really well. But from all the hype that its getting, and when you compare that to what it really sells it will become a dissappointment. So many people believe that it will blow by Halo, it may but i dont think so. Reason being is that Halo has been around since last generation therefore its built up a fanbase. Killzone 1 was not very praised as a game last generation, many enjoyed but on the other hand many were dissappointed with it. Now think to yourself... If you played a game before in the past that was excellent and they decided to release a sequel you would most likely purchase it correct(Halo) since they were known to make a good game? OR you played a game in the past and you didnt like it very much, thought it was decent but got bored little quick, and they came out with a sequel(Killzone2) would you buy it, they were known from killzone1 to make a decent shooter?

[lil Titan]

people need to stop saying Killzone 2 is an "Halo Killer" the Halo killer was COD4 Killzone 2 would be the Overkiller

[CrazzyMan]

Just like CoD4 took from Halo 3.

BUT to KILL, KZ2 need to take atleast 80% of gamers, which regularly play Halo 3.
I don`t think, that this is going to happen(maybe only CoD4/CoD:WoW would really suffer), no matter how KZ2 is GREAT. =)
But, who knows? =))

[Danja]

there will never be a Halo killer bcuz Halo is no longer the best console FPS this isn't 2001 ne more..

COD4 & KZ2 are the big doggs these days..Halo needs to go back to pre-school..

[uie4rhig]

i dont think there should be any [insert game name]-killers.. it's just stupid, now unless the storyline, the characters and everything else is identical, it shouldn't be compared to each other, compare Halo 3 to Halo 2, but not Killzone 2 to Halo 3, compare Killzone 2 to Killzone 1, but not GeoW with R2..

[Graphics Whore]

LOL Halo revolutionized. Oh boy. Anyway, Halo Killer doesn't exist anymore, CoD4 already pulpified it by shooting it in the head with a minigun.

[Marquis_de_Sade]

Yea sure, PS3 fans tell yourself, Halo 3 remains top of the Live charts even after releasing almost a year and a half ago. CoD was not the Halo killer many slate it as, you just want to pretend your happy without it on the PS3.

The Halo killer tag is plain stupid, I will be enjoying Halo 3 and Killzone 2 together for many years to come.

[uie4rhig]

it's purely hype.. Halo 3 only sold coz of hype.. CoD4 wasn't hyped half as much and sold nearly as much (yes i know its multiplatform but still) but Halo 3 got overtaken by CoD4 in the first few weeks.. and now its a battle between the two thanks to CoD:WaW (many went to CoD:WaW so less CoD4 players)

[Marquis_de_Sade]

Actually for the 2 months before World of War released, Halo reclaimed its' top spot. I find many people play the CoD games due to the carrot and stick nature of the rewards, the gameplay itself is mediocre. This year I purchased World at War for the PS3 on the recommendation of my brother, well, this is the game I will trade in against Killzone 2.

[N4360G]

I agree,stop the Halo killing,it's pretty obvious that Killzone 2 is better than Halo.

[IcarusOne]

Halo didn't sell because of hype. Every person I know bought an Xbox only after playing Halo. In other words, Halo sold Halo.

Halo did revolutionize FPS because it was the first one to prove that they can work on consoles. Everything before that had been clunky, jerky and awkward. Halo was smooth, precise and organic. Killzone - and every other console FPS - owes it's existence to Halo. If there hadn't been a Halo, there would have been no need for the "Halo-killing" Killzone 1. And if there hadn't been a Killzone 1, there wouldn't be a Killzone 2.

Own it. Love it. Savor it. Every Sony fanboy who preemptively worships Killzone 2. Halo is the greatest thing to ever happen to you.

[Graphics Whore]

Wrong, Look up Golden Eye 007 young pup.

[IcarusOne]

I misspoke. They're both revelations. There really wasn't anything very inspired between the two. Nothing came close to the fun of GoldenEye until Halo, especially when you're considering fluidity and tightness of control. Every couple of years there is a jump in the genre. Nothing's radically built upon Halo's two stick, two trigger control scheme.

For my money, Rainbow 6 Vegas is a great jump forward with how it handles its cover mechanic. Arguably the tightest addition to the control scheme I've seen in years. I'm sure Killzone will do a lot of very nice things, but it's not going to redefine the genre the way GoldenEye and Halo did.

[Sarcasm]

The original Halo didn't "revolutionize." It just pioneered the first successful FPS on consoles.

Killzone 2, just does everything better.

Infact, the most revolutionary FPS this generation would be Mirror's Edge. And look at the sales of that game.

So people need to stop with the "OOoohhh FPS's need to innovate" crap. And just enjoy that specific Genre's are there for a reason.

That's why there's shooters, RPGs, Racing etc. You wouldn't compare Halo 3's driving portion to Gran Turismo 5 would you? No, it's stupid.

So Killzone 2 is an excellent First Person Shooter. End of story.

[ACEMANWISE]

They said doom would get killed for a long time. It never happened and the issue died out. I think after awhile people just don't care about it getting killed or not.

[ThanatosDMC]

Doom killed itself with Doom 3 sadly...

[Why dis]

Cool post. Pretty much has what I said in a nutshell(folks like Halo's arcady offerings with flying and ground vehicles etc). Iconic status is hard to beat.

I disagree with Gears22 and his comment in the report box.

[ACEMANWISE]

It's his opinion but he should post it here. I've actually seen people in some forums try to disrespect Halo and say Killzone 2 will kill it. Honestly, I think Killzone 2 will match it in different ways.

[Giriath]

The people reporting this story obviously only read the title. He's saying that media only call a game "[insert game name] killer" to get hits while they do it and set up for their inevitable biased review score, because it wasn't the "[insert game name] killer people hoped it to be", which is true.

Almost every reviewer is justifying their 9 or 9,5 score with their opinion that Killzone 2 "doesn't do anything new". In reality, Killzone 2 is the first FPS to have a cover system and it also has dynamically changing game types in multiplayer.

In comparison, Gears of War wasn't the first TPS to feature a cover system, it only polished it. But it was still considered original and every TPS utilizing a cover system after it was copying what Epic had created.

Why the split opinions? Because the gaming press hadn't hyped GeoW to the skies.

[ACEMANWISE]

To me he's saying that calling Killzone 2 a Halo killer will only make Killzone 2 look bad. That's all.

[B-Real206]

If I recall rainbow six las vegas has cover albeit it comes out to third person while "in it". I am very excited to get to try this all first person cover. I just can't wait for the 27th!!!!!!!!

[solidsnakus]

well halo was the pinacle of fps and still is although to a less extent since halos been remade like 3 times now. it just wears it out. 8 mil sold dosnt lie, i dont know of any other fps thats sold that much on one console.

[lokiroo420]

Goldeneye sold more!

[cayal]

I am just curious if Halo didn't sell so much would this be even a discussion?

Is Halo the game that every other shooter gets compared too because it sold so much or because it really is a revolutionary FPS.

It would be interesting that, if Halo sold 3 million, would the 'Halo Killer' tag still apply?

[Sarcasm]

Right, 8 million sold for Halo 3.

Wii Sports is going on 40 million sold. It's definitely a better game than Halo 3 according to the 360 fanboy logic.

o_o

[Huh]

halo was already killed by call of duty 4 didnt you get the memo

[Bnet343]

Multiplatform + sold more on 360 + Halo 3 sold more then both versions separated. I don't think it really counts.

[0verdrive]

regardless of who sold more, its pretty much accepted by everyone that cod4 has taken anything and everything halo has brought to the table and improved it. i think its widely accepted that cod4 is just a better, more entertaining, more complete game than any of the halos.

although im sure to get some disagrees from the halo following

[The BS Police]

So explain why Halo 3 is still being played more than Call of Duty 4?

Why was Halo 3 the most played Xbox Live game of 2008?

Also, take a look at these stats I pulled from Bungie.net:

1,935 Players Online in Halo 2
15,600 Halo 2 Players (Last 24 Hours)
29,130 Halo 2 Games (Last 24 Hours) 154,948

154,948 Players Online in Halo 3
909,732 Halo 3 Players (Last 24 Hours)
2,382,529 Halo 3 Games (Last 24 Hours)

Care to explain these facts?

[cayal]

"Multiplatform + sold more on 360 + Halo 3 sold more then both versions separated. I don't think it really counts."

Just because it sold more doesn't mean a thing.

Based on that logic, Wii Sports is the best game around.

[Graphics Whore]

Maybe because there's literally nothing exciting and new to play on the Xbox 360?

Did you ever think about degradation and boredem?

Those numbers will degrade over time, as I'm sure they already have.

People will keep playing the same games over until something new comes out and so far the only new game with excellent multi-player is Killzone 2 and it's obviously not for Xbox 360.

[nix]

lol.. man.... it looks like u guys badly need a new game. tch tch.

u guys can always jump out , u know. q:

[crazyclown]

halo sux why compare it lol its an insult to killzone2 ROFL

no games on 360 that are good except that and gears. I wonder why so many people buy them --- overrated games. Unreal Tournament is better lol

[king dong]

pathetic comment. well done. 360 needs more games? for shooters, i have cod4(cod5 got traded within a week, pure sh!t imo), halo3, gears2, battlefield bad comapny and l4d! each one a top notch shooter! thats without all my other games. yeah everyone knows kz2 is on the horizon, but if theres soooooo many games on the ps3, then whys it the only game talked about now? where's resistance gone? and all the others?

i dont play halo all the time because i've got more than ONE shooter to play. but i certainly play it often. although i dont like the imbalance of the weapons, i love the feel, and the vehicles are top notch! and the numbers playing daily speak for themselves.

i think the question is, if kz2 was on the 360, how long would it keep halo off the top spot? cod4 is as popular as halo because it's more accessible than halo. halo takes more skill, and requires experience in order to be a good player. cod4 is much more "pick-up-and-play!

anyway, enjoy kz2. i know i will when i pick up a ps3-kz2 bundle. although, it's gonna be the only shooter worth owning on the ps3 until kz3 hits. ps3= a one shooter console! see what i did there?!

when that's still the most popular game on the psn in 2 years time, and everyone is saying that the ps3 is in need of new and fresh shooters, you'll know who saying things like that first!

[nix]

after you pick up PS3 don't forget to get Warhawk and R2 just for the online mode. 32 players and 60 players. something you don't see on 360. plus MAG is coming out this year too... i can't even remember how many it supports at a time, the number is too big. q:

and yeah beware! you might not like playing 360 games after playing those games especially KZ2. thanks to the awesome graphics!

enjoy KZ2! (:

[king dong]

graphics dont make the game!

yeah i'll be getting warhawk and resistance. i'll never stop playing the 360 though, and will continue to get multi-plats on the 360 for acheivements and live...coz thats where all my mates are.

by the way, i really dont think we'll be seeing MAG til next winter(2010) at the earliest. even then i'm being optimistic!

anyway thanks, i cant wait for kz2! seeing as i'm a big shooter fan.

bubbles up

[0verdrive]

whoops been out of town for the weekend so i couldnt respond to your comments.

i knew that id strike a chord with some of the halo fans out there. dont get me wrong, im not ragging on halo, im just saying that aside from the hardcore halo fans, i think that most people have accepted that cod4 has redefined the genre past what halo has done so far.

as far as number of people playing halo vs cod4, one must remember that there are more people that own halo vs cod4. on top of that, cod:waw has split the user base in half. i mean, you claim that cod4 was only the king for a short while, but we have to remember that it is not the latest iteration in the cod franchise. to be fair, should we not compare cod4 with halo2?

on top of that, halo has a cult following. the halo heads have been playing since the release of halo on the xbox1. the cod franchise has had no such large following until they released cod4, in which their franchise exploded. look at the success of cod4 as compared to cod3, and its pretty apparent that cod4 refreshed not only the franchise, as well as set the current bar for fps games, which it seems will soon be raised again with the release of kz2.

halo has its own special place in video game history, successfully bringing fps games to consoles, but that does not make it the "king" of shooters. shooters have generally surpassed halo's level of game design, and until they attempt to raise the bar with their next iteration of the franchise, i stand by my belief that halo is not at the top of the shooter pyramid, and has not been for quite some time.

[Huh]

this is why microsoft are making the next halo a real time strategy game because they have lost the fps crown to infinity ward

[ACEMANWISE]

Games are only killed if the memory fades away. Just like people, games exist only if people remember them.

[king dong]

no fool. it's an rts because ensemble make them best! and having halo in title guarantees a 2+mil seller! plus, it leaves bungie free to make the next one(halo odst), and also leaves bungie to begin the foundations for halo4 which will either launch with the next xbox, or will be within in the launch window.

[Spike47]

Killzone 2 and Halo 3 are different games, both great in their own way, and just because one sells more than the other doesn't mean its better.

[ACEMANWISE]

I agree and the article is in no way a bash toward either console or game. I'm really suprised it's getting such a negative response. Doesn't anyone read these before they judge them?

[duplissi]

i know its so stupid, why cant people just appreciate both games?
although i will admit it would be nice if only for a while i didnt have to endure a halo humping fest whenever gamers get together(im in the national guard, and we play games *cough halo* on our downtime during drills) theres more games out there kids

[cayal]

"I agree and the article is in no way a bash toward either console or game. I'm really suprised it's getting such a negative response. Doesn't anyone read these before they judge them?"

I think people are just sick of journalistic hypocrisy where they are hyping up the games and then put it on fanboys when they find reason to not hype up a game.

[Lord Shuhei Yoshida]

Why would anyone want to kill Halo?

It already killed itself with its mediocre gameplay.Killzone 2 is just filling the grave.

You can't kill the 360 either because its already killing itself with its hardware malfunctions.

Xbots cannot be killed either.They can only be contained in cages to protect the general population from their rabid un-medicated delusions

[gamfreak]

LMFAO

[tatsujin]

funny as hell

[WhoaMan]

here's the event in which halo was killed
1. halo(specifically halo 3) tried cooking a grenade but was a second too late so it blew up 5 feet away blasting its leg off
2. cod4(the opposing war enemy) sees halo on the ground and teabags it and then brings out his pistol and BOOM! 5 nutshots and a shot to the forehead

[Marquis_de_Sade]

I love how PS3 fans worship CoD as the halo killer, on x360 people have the choice of CoD or Halo, they choose Halo. On the PS3 there is no choice, just CoD, jealousy springs to mind. I consider myself more inclined towards the PS3, but I'm also a big fan of Halo and Killzone 2 won't change that as it's a different style of shooter. I have the best option, to play both.

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

Oh how DisaPPointing that sounds!!! ;-D
Good 1, Lord Shuhei Yoshida ;)

[Magic_The_Celt]

LMAO, infinite bubbles to you sir

[Deadman64]

The real question is, will Killzone 2 even sell more than Fable 2?

[AngryTypingGuy]

People will have their preference as to what game is better, but as far as being a huge seller and part of pop culture, Sony is incapable of making a "Halo killer".

[CyberSentinel]

In the end, $ale$ will tell all.

Blind Lemmings, If You Really Support KZ2 Then Buy It.

[Grandreaper9999]

They're two totally different types of games, you can't compare them.

The whole "______ Killer" thing is always a bad thing, a direct comparison of somethig that can't and shouldn't be compared, and gives a false sense of superiority to the "_____". It makes as much sense as asking a chick how long her wang is, and then boasting about big yours is in comparison.

If you feel like games should "die", then you probably shouldn't be a part of the industry...Probably shouldn't be calling yourself a gamer either.

[Grandreaper9999]

The only games that SHOULD be compared are sequels and their predecessors, and Sports games where rules and gameplay don't change.

I could tell u right now I had more fun playing single player Doom3 over halo3, or 2(to be fair), but that in itself is an OPINION! Which means, everyone has one, and your "favorite game" or "best game" is still tied to that opinion. It doesn't make it fact.

[PS3Freak]

Why does the poster INSIST on putting this is the 360 section? People these days.

[ACEMANWISE]

Probably because Halo is a 360 GAME!

[DutyCalls]

why dont you just shut up and stop posting after everyone

[Liquid Snake]

Killzone 2 didn't kill Halo, COD4 did that.

/joke (why must i put this in?)

In all seriousness Halo 3, COD4 , and KZ2 are all good games.

[BGDad]

Sorry but that big pile of steaming junk (360) is hardly worth buying. It has NO games, its ALWAYS breaks, and it has HALO. Who would want to buy that? Pfffttt.... Id rather have a hot dog.

[unicorndeathcamp]

and thats fine. But, you did however make a fake account to make fun of a video game system.
thats a shame dude.

[kewlkat007]

KZ2 will never be a household name.
KZ2 will never be a staple in pop culture.
KZ2 will never sell as much as the Halo Franchise.
KZ2 will never be as popular with hardcores and casuals alike.
KZ2 will never be hold such title "Film Execs Blame Halo 3 for Poor Box Office"

KZ2 will be the game many will buy without playing or knowing KZ1 and will sell well, based on Hype/Graphics alone.

KZ2 will not save no PS3, since it does not need saving and it sure will not come from a hardcore shooter. Halo was a pickup and play by any type gamer.

It took 4 to 5 installments CODs to best Halo at it's own game now imagine Halo 4 and 5, if it was multi-platform. When all the dust have settled Halo will still be played. The franchise has very long legs and longevity. Of course this is all opinion so please do not cry..Disagree works just fine, I suppose.

**I'll be getting KZ2 by the way, so don't think Hate.**

[Gerry Mark II]

I'm talking your bubbles now with my multiple accounts.

/s

[Huh]

dont be so angry just because halo is no longer a good fps does not mean you should take everything so seriously

[mintaro]

You're trolling is weak! Step up your game!

:)

[Hiruma Youchi]

So I guess its right to say KZ2 will kill halo blablah and its not right to say that KZ wont ever be a Halo killer? Get THE EFF OUTTA HERE wiht your Im getting rid of your bubbles !

[Unicron]

The funny part is, Kat, I don't care if it does. And I don't care if Halo has done all that. I respect it for what it has done, but NONE of that matters when it comes to actually playing the game. None of that matters to me when I'm having fun with my friends. I can have fun with Halo 3, UT3, CoD4, Goldeneye, Gears, whatever. If I can have fun with Killzone 2, and if it's addictive, that's all that matters to me.

Nothing can "kill" Halo. Nothing can "kill" MGS. Nothing can "kill" Killzone 2, except the games themselves. It's perfectly fine to enjoy more than one title per genre, even on different systems. It's not always a contest.

[kewlkat007]

Some like to hate on Halo franchise because it's on the 360 but the game has done a lot for the Xbox and broadening the Genre on Consoles.

Same are very quick to point out COD series and what being played. Hey Halo has just 3 installments NOT 5. Plus Halo paved the way.

Anyhow I Agree with your opinion though.

Hey, it's like saying, where is the next Micheal Jordan Killer. There never will be. IMO

[crazyclown]

halo is so overrated thats why they said that, no good games on xbox so they had to at least like one why not halo overhype. They hyped it, people loved the hyped, they continued.

Don't you get it unreal tournament is exactly the same as halo. So who copied who? LOL obvious that bundgie did

[Belasco]

If I could agree a thousand more times, I would.

[Huh]

you know why bungie left microsoft because they didnt want to make another halo

[ACEMANWISE]

Let's face it. Bungie's Halo and Microsoft's Gears of War were in competition with each other. Halo was considered a flagship title until Gears came along. They were both shooters and Microsoft obviously placed Gears of War in higher esteem. I honestly think Bungie wasn't getting any benefits by staying exclusive to a console who wasn't supporting them.

[king dong]

bungie left microsoft for money!

they saw halo turn into a franchise that has nearly earnt a billion $ and they want a bigger slice of the pie! how can you say that microsft wasn't surporting them?

if you think bungie left because they didn't want to make any more halos then your not very bright sorry! bungie are making odst, they will make halo4 and every other halo in the series.

do you honestly think that they will leave the safety blanket of making halos, and make new untested i.p's, and let some other studio step into their shoes, and earn multiple millions that are guaranteed with a halo game???????????????? it's never gonna happen!

bungie wanted and rightly so more return for their product! they will always make halo games, and get rich by doing so. making new i.p's is risky(free radical anyone), making halos is not! it's bunies, and always will be!

[Brock Danger]

Second, they moved on because it's the smart thing to to do. They made the money, now they get to have more control over their product. Pretty simple.

Or maybe you don't work in the real world, is that why it's baffling? Every time you walk outside you see the sun, and having no idea what it is, you go, "huh?"

[RememberThe357]

Killzone 2 was a Halo killer?

[ultimolu]

How about the media shuts the f*ck up about the Halo killer and gamers play the games for themselves?

I want to play the game. I'll take quality over quantity anytime.

[Marquis_de_Sade]

I agree, the 'Halo-killer' tag is ridiculous, it's like 2 decent games can't just exist.

[Rade6]

THANKS ACEMANWISE!!!

[edwineverready]

Not possible it's like comparing Ps3 with xbox360. not possible they are not in the same league. ps3 and kz2 are mills ahead in every which way.

[WhoaMan]

xbox is like that fat kid who used up all his energy to try and get ahead in the beginning of a track race
ps3 is that fit guy who jogs knowing that he'll need his energy for the whole race

[Kyur4ThePain]

Show me one "fanboy" that called it a Halo killer.
It's all the "media". YOU!

PS - And don't say you didn't call it a Halo killer. You're feeding off that exact premise, and that's no better.

[KKanjiAnkh]

Don't you know Haze killed Halo, ask Free Radical, ooops, anyway you instantly doom your franchise, when even let that enter your mindstate. Halo is mostly known for its On-Line, hands down, but for those who've read, or heard those stories, they're pretty cool. Oh running someone over in warthog, deserves a "Yo Joe." LOL

[PeptoBismol]

halo = power rangers with guns

[Shadow Man]

killzone = grey with guns

[Ethreon]

Yea, its' dead already.

Grey is always better than "every single color in the world in 1 gun..."
Halo's been always so damn colorful, like crack for gays.

[Deadman64]

lmao now grey is ok. I can't get over these sony fanboys. They give gears of war some much sh!t for having the color grey in it, yet its ok in killzone. I love hypocrisy.

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

First you'll see a whole bunch of Halo Killer blogs then see a whole bunch of Killzone 2 killer blogs. This is why gaming is looked at so pathetically that we have nothing to do but post our blogs as news to counter each other. Blogs, Editorials, or Romours don't equal news because it's repetitive and pathetic. You’ll never see CNN report from an anonymous tip is said that City TV News is dying, lol. As usually this won’t happen because the news is controlled by writers who didn’t go to college or university to get a diploma or degree to contribute to gaming.

[Brock Danger]

Amen.

[Shadow Man]

Why all the Halo hate? killzone will never ever be as big as halo.

[SonySoldierEternaL]

"why all the halo hate"

well because of idiots like you

you keep fueling the fire

"killzone will never ever be as big as halo"

we're simply here to prove you wrong

[Magic_The_Celt]

and Halo will never be as big with aids, whats your point?

[AJBaldwin]

if every game is killing another.

Seriously, could you imagine if Halo was a person? He'd be stalked down every street by psychotic killers such as Mr Half-Life and Mr Killzone.

But I think the main point the article was trying to get at is just because a new game that tops the genre comes out it doesn't instantly degrade every other title to crapness.

If Killzone 2 comes out and is better than Halo 3, does that make Halo 3 any less fun? No. It just means there's another great FPS, so now you can enjoy BOTH. You may prefer Killzone 2, but it doesn't have any effect on the quality of other games.

It gets annoying everytime a great new game comes out the attitude is other games from that genre are 'dead', it's not like the new game somehow tears all the goodness out of existing games. I'm sure the code on your Halo 3 disc will still be the same when Killzone 2 comes out, even if Killzone 2 is better.

[Belasco]

Is a language these fanboys dont speak, it is wasted here.

[Brock Danger]

Not used to seeing this much common sense on N4G.

[DNAgent]

The fanboys are desperate and that's why you get all of this "Halo Killer" talk. It doesn't matter what the fanboys or the media thinks of Killzone 2 because it won't stop people from playing Halo (especially once ODST comes out).

Plus Killzone 2's multiplayer won't be that good because most people don't even talk online and in the beta hardly anyone ever got in a squad and this was even when the beta was out for quite some time and ppl have unlocked all the classes. That's the main reason I am just renting the game. The multiplayer is ok but it feels too much like playing with bots (and i'm not talking about xbots).

[Lord Vader]

Nothing will ever kill Halo, except...

The next Halo.

[andrewf91]

that just started, and uses watermarked images, I think not.

[Erdrick]

[troll]all your console fps games are retarded.[/troll]

[Obama]

LEAVE HALO ALONE!!!! LEAVE HER ALONE!! *cries*

[dukadork2]

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[Obama]

haha nice but I think this pic is more appropriate

[dukadork2]

XDDD

[Socomer 1979]

makes you wonder if journalist fight and shoot echother in the street for some more halo 3 treasure boxes. ummm, cease fire guys. wars over, youve been KILLZOWNED !

[Belasco]

Are you retarded? What does "KILLZONED!" even mean? Shut up and take a seat, your embarassing your little sony friends.

[KKanjiAnkh]

KewlKat007 nice pic of Starman, & luv the comradery between you & Unicron, I just had this douche named Jason 360 tell I was wrong about my personal experience with Sony, since MS is still the fresh face on the block. For anybody who wants to check my post, go to the 2009 is the year of PS3, B.S., F'n wanna be gamer, go sing that $hit with the Spice Girls. I do own all 3 systems, I play whatever that doesn't promote that gay @ss excuse of what's supposed to be Hip-Hop nowadays, & the most blatant obvious of choices, 50 Cent. I would never promote anybody named the HipHopGamer, that is LAME, & I don't care which systems stats said what, I KNOW MY GD GAMES, DO YOU. As for Halo, it's funny to play, very smooth, and I luv the vehicles, but just like HOME, YOU will run into @$$es who TRY to insult over the internet, but would face down in dogshite, in person. If Halo sells a lot Oh well, gamers let the producer know when it's time to move on.

[hazardman]

Regardless of what anyone says if Halo 4 and Killzone 2 launched at same time Killzone would get demolished in sales...and this is from a gamer and not a fanboy..it's just that Halo is so commercialized..but i have to say you can't compare halo to Killzone 2 it's just not fair.. Killzone just set the new standard for FPS on a console..M.S. needs to step their game up..

[KKanjiAnkh]

P.C only people STFU, nobody asked your opinion, we should all know P.C gamer are better, since all games start as P.C games.
Console gamers only, still have fun, hell what you guys have 3 main genre's, FPS, RTS, & MMORPGS, sad you know how console RPG's decimate crappy WOW, and guess what, when they end I move on.
Wake me when you get Lost Odyssey, Metal Gear Solid, MarioKart, & a $hite ton of diversified games. I'n the mean time we had, had already Jumped in, Played Beyond, & Played it Loud.

Peace

[Belasco]

PCs are awesome because they are used to make console games.

[Lord Xire]

The main reason Halo 3 will never be killed is because of the Forge and spectator mode.

Red and Blue
Arby and Chief

and countless other Halo3 videos shows how people have taken Halo3 to an entire new creative level.

That's my reason why Halo3 will never be killed...it stays fresh and interesting due to Bungie periodically updating and keeping its players happy making it more than just an FPS.

No FPS does what Halo3 did....CoD4:MW all we got was a crappy map pack and 1 double XP weekend but it is up there with the best shooters this gen.

[KKanjiAnkh]

Nice multiteered answer, beautiful, it's not just the gaming world it invaded.

Kudos

[Firstkn1ghT]

Their are zero FPS on the console market that can "kill" Halo 3. Zero! COD4 did not do it. In total sales or most played games on xbox live. I remember hearing Resistance 2 was supposed to be a "halo killer." Funny thing is that in some parts of the country a 15 month old game is selling more than Resistance 2.

Nothing on the console market that can relate! Nothing!!!

[chidori666]

hahaha kill zone 2 pwnds the halo!

[omgwownoobs]

fact!

[Belasco]

believe what you typed in that post? Sounds like your just talking through your a$$, but that is the internet, oh well.

[Marquis_de_Sade]

If Halo is such a bad game according to PS3 fans, why is it always used as the standard by which other FPS games are judged on consoles?

[Deadman64]

Because its the most selling, best UI, best online system, best game with friends, and most known game since the original nintendo games.

[Marquis_de_Sade]

I agree, when it comes to playing with friends, Halo is a special game. The fun physics and vehicles allow for some unique moments, other games like Call of Duty just feel too staged in comparison. The matchmaking system is excellent as well, the best implementation of it I have seen.

People can hate on Halo 3 all day, but the numbers who originally bought it and the people who flock back to it, close to 900,000 unique users ever 24 hours at weekend, despite releasing over 15 months ago, is proof enough that other people feel the same.

[harshtruth]

they shouldn't make RTS halo and we already have third-person halo its called gears...

[Foxgod]

Lets discuss that after Halo wars is out, instead of making lame assumptions.

[KiD iZ DiRTY]

I agree with harsh they already embarrassed them selves with halo 3 and halo wars do we really need anymore disappointment (can't quite explain to myself how can you ruin a game as perfect as halo 2)

[JohnnyBadfinger]

Its impossible for KillZone2 to kill Halo. FACT.
They're on different consoles for starters and share NO similarities.

I hate to point it out to you Sony fairys (not really, i love it) but have you girls even played Killzone 2 yet?? What? you haven't? then that means what your really saying is i hope KZ2 is better then Halo, because right now master chiefs is half way through a curb stomp and you have to wait and see whether KZ2 can roll away before the boot comes down.

But i really hope that KZ2 works out well for the PS3. Because when you think Xbox you think of Halo, and hopefully now when we think of Playstation we think of Killzone.
To bad that KZ1 left a bad taste in your mouth, but hopefully KZ2 gets the taste of rat sh*t outta ya mouth and all you PS3 gamers around the worlds balls will finally drop.

[Magic_The_Celt]

Its a stupid concept

how can one exlusive kill another exlusive on a different console.. it makes no sense...

But yah, Killzone 2 will rape Halo 3 (which i own)

[bobdog626]

We will Soon See if it can Hang With the All Mighty Halo3 . We will See.

[Foxgod]

Halo can only be killed by Halo.

Nothing else comes close in terms of popularity and anticipation.

[harshtruth]

RTS games are pretty lame, thats fact... youre lame for being excited about halo wars, thats assumption... but a pretty good assumption lol

[crazyclown]

killzone 2 ownz

[eagle21]

PERIOD.

[caffman]

we may have a long wait. But graphically it is better than halo 3. Gameplaywise remains to be seen

[rmedtx888]

Firs of all, I don't think there will ever be a Halo killer, when a game innovates like it did it becomes a landmark in video game history. Even if there are better games in the future what Halo did cannot be erased from history. I hate when they call a game a "Video game name" killer.

[Kornholic]

I think its just foolish to compare Killzone 2 Halo 3. Halo 3 is a cartoony fps for teens with a rather ridicculous story and weak weapons in multiplayer whereas Killzone 2 is an adult game with quite an exciting story and ballsy weapons.

Killzone 2 doesnt have to kill Halo because they wrestle in totally different leagues.

[FreedomPhantom]

Media is cause that didn't start with playstation fans? Media built it up and now other gamers are running with it.

IMO Halo has been done since the 2nd one. Halo 3 was the most overhyped game ever and it Sucks ass and there just milking it now Come on Halo Recon bullshit. Halo 1 was the best and halo 2 was alright.

There is no halo killer because Halo has been KILLED ALREADY

Just an Old washed up milked game

[TheOutsider]

WAH WAH Stop killing our game wah wah HA HA KILLZOWNED!!!

[Gameing Matermind]

First of there is no such thing has a *halo killer* or a *game killer* one just sets the bar higher than the other and I guess killzone is doing it with the 95 meta score so far... Since people are comparing games that don't match...I guess cod4 is better than lbp?

[ASSASSYN 36o]

My memories of halo 3 multiplayer games can be viewed by the wonderful theater option allowing me to view every kill over and over.

[samura]

Good article.

why not accept Halo, COD AND Killzone as great games? instead of bashing each other.

honestly, gamers have changed.

Great games should be appreciated REGARDLESS of the console.

BTW, how many of you guys here are fans of FPS genre? I think the number is surprising.

[NoBullsh1t]

Is a pissed 'fanboy' getting all worked up.

Who allows this sh1t to be featured as news on this site!?

[AnttiApina]

Battlefield 2 is still the best :) .
But Killzone 2 will be the most visually appealing for me!

[TheNocturnus]

Killzone 2 hasn't been released yet, correct? Yet people are saying that it is the best game ever. Why not wait and see if the game is really all that great before saying how awesome it is. People were saying that GTA 4 would be the greatest game of all time, unfortunately san andreas was much better. (Killzone 1 sucked BTW)

[jBat17]

because it is already dead to begin with. COD4 murdered it in broad daylight. everybody witnessed it, from xbots, to pc nerds, to ps3 gamers. COD4 was found guilty and the verdict was better graphics, better online game play, and heck even a longer campaign than gaylo's.

now KZ2 will @ssr@p3 gaylo's daughter, ODST..

serioulsy, gaylo is such a fugly 640p game, not even in HD with only 16 players max. pathetic..

[David_15]

when people are saying that killzone 2 will be a halo killer, thats just making halo more famous

[KiD iZ DiRTY]

jBat17 you cannot compare those games what so ever they are 2 completely different kind of games and Halo was never meant to be realistic nor have good graphics but I will agree it has gone completely down the drain not because any other game killed it but more like halo3 killed it self they made it a horrible game.

[aiphanes]

It is better in all respects to those two great games....This is one of many totally awesome PS3 games that will be a system seller....Uncharted 2 and God of War 3 and FF13 and FF13 Versus are the next ones...

[The BS Police]

I do play other games, in fact I got more than a few that I have played and many I still play from time to time.

My Xbox 360 game library:
Halo 3
Left 4 Dead
Gears Of War
Gears Of War 2
Mass Effect
Splinter Cell: Double Agent
Perfect Dark Zero
Prey
Oblivion
Grand Theft Auto 4
Rock Band
Rock Band 2
Crackdown
Mass Effect
Call of Duty 2
Guitar Hero World Tour
Saints Row
Saints Row 2

Xbox 1 library:
Halo: Combat Evolved
Halo 2
Grand Theft Auto Vice City
Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory

Xbox Live Arcade:
DOOM
Duke Nukem 3D

So as I have stated, I own all of these games and yet your laughing at me because I still play alot of Halo 3? I thought good games get played for years and years, not bought and then forgotten overtime?

Also, let me point out that if you guys keep on hyping Killzone 2 as the Halo killer you are then setting it up as a complete failure when you all realise that you guys stated the exact same thing when Killzone 1 was pitted against Halo 2 back in 2004.

Fanboy logic is ammusing.

Halo 3 has staying power, and no matter what every other developer does (exept maybe Valve and Blizzard) Bungie always supports the community, unlike Activision and many others who abandons there own games in less than a year.

[KiD iZ DiRTY]

aiphanes I'm so sorry but there aren't enough PS3 owners halo 3 had well over 4 million pre-orders alone not including people who wait till drop dates and since its been out how many people will buy it . the only way this game will out sell h3 is if every PlayStation owners buys about 900 copies of the game =)

[StoneySweatLeafs]

Wow this game needs to come out.