Sony has moved to quash various speculation and internet rumour about co-operative play for Killzone 2 being patched in at a later date.
I can care less if theres no COOP, doesnt make the game better, really, its just little more fun but thats it. Man, ill be on Multiplayer all the time, how cares about coop?
i dont need co op or cross game invites/voice chat! You tell em n4g. Sony needs to get the message.
I know the PR job is to deny and not to confirm any future plans so the competitors won't have an advantage.. but do they actually read any gaming news??
This is old news tho
I guess, that's kinda of good since i would have probably bought two copies and i wouldnt be able to eat properly for a week.
LOL! If the PS3 is actually able to do cross game invites/cross game private chat/ 8 player private chat/ coop in KZ2 you guys wouldn't be saying that! I bet you guys love having to type up your messages with the PS3s software keyboard instead of just being able to just send a voice message huh?
I don't mind co-op (online, NOT splitscreen!) in itself, but if it was slapped on to KZ2 to the detriment of the overall (apparently brilliant) single & multiplayer package then I'd prefer it wasn't there.
Agreed. Co-op is a great added extra. Although it shouldn't be at the cost of the single player campaign.
I don't want to play co-op. But if I did, I could go and play Resistance 2. Or another co-op game. It doesn't need to be a part of KZ2. 99% of games DON'T have single-player, co-op and multiplayer all at once, and very few have those all 3 of those modes awesome. Co-op has always been debunked. There's not going to be any co-op. Think about it from their perspective - what would they gain from adding co-op? They've made the game, lots of the reviews have come in, and they're planning a big marketing push and they'll sell loads of copies of the game. By investing another load of money into a co-op mode, they won't make any money out of it, unless they charge, in which case there would be uproar. It's all very well everybody shouting for co-op - but what if they just bodged co-op in as a patch very quickly and it was buggy, basic and not fun? It wouldn't even be played, and people would soon forget about it. They'd have to have had a seperate team working on it, just like the MP and SP, which would have multiplied their production costs by 1.5. It wouldn't have been worth it.
a coop psn download could be a smart move for sony and gurilla if they dont wait to long i mean ive paid 10 bucks for map packs and i would defenatly spend the same for a coop mode if it was done right with matchmacking and rankings and im sure about at least 75% of the people who have the game and are online with it would do the same
But can you see my other point? OK so people might be willing to pay money for a co-op addon. BUT that doesn't stop the fact that there would have to be a huge amount of effort put into co-op. Co-op is NOT easy to do. There are so many things that would need to be changed. So there really are only two options: 1) GG spend 6 months developing a co-op mode that can stand up to the quality of the SP and MP. -Will anyone care by this point? Will people go out and buy it? Will there be anyone playing the co-op online? Most importantly for GG, will they get their money back? Likely, no is the answer. Furthermore, they're probably thinking about their next game at the moment. It would be considerably held back by allowing most of their workforce to work on a co-op mode. 2) GG spend a couple of months developing a simple co-op mode. -It won't be of the same quality as the other modes. It will feel tacked-on. It won't have levelling up or other incentives to play. It will be glitchy. There will be inconsistencies with plot and you'll be just like the random dude who joins you in R1. The mechanics will not be thought through; reviving will likely be criticised. There will be freezes, framerate hitches and many bugs because of the added player(s). It may only support 2 players. It might have a very basic online lobby, where you can only start a particular level from the start. You won't be able to join in mid-game, or leave mid-game. There won't be voice chat. There won't be text chat. There won't be an indicator telling you where the other player is. It would most likely be awful and not even fun. Countless things need to be considered. It would need to go through extensive testing. IT MIGHT NOT BE THAT GOOD! It's really not worth doing, if you look at it from their perspective. Otherwise, it's at least 6 months away, and I don't think they want to waste that much time and money. They could easily make a couple of DLC map packs and release them to make about the same amount of money as a co-op pack. Adding co-op to the game wouldn't increase sales by any noticable amount. It's just not worth doing.
Who cares its got 32 player co-op, COD 4 didnt have it and I've never even bothered with COD [email protected] co-op. Imo its better to have it a few months earlier than waiting till summer so they can tag on co-op that no one really cares about. Is it me or are journalists trying really hard to find everything BAD with KZ2 despite the insignificance, its like they want it to fail? KZ2 is helping push the boundarys for gaming especially on consoles, this is only ever a good thing!
It's the reason i'm not getting KZ2. I'm 30 and only got into consoles at 27-28 and co-op is the most important factor when it comes to games for me unless its a RPG like Mass Effect (yes i have both Xbox and PS3).
Split screen co-op adds a lot of value to a game for me. I'm the type that only plays through a game once no matter how good it is or how much I like it. Unless a friend drops by then I'll play it with them. As is KZ2 is a rental for me.
....so you missed out on COD4, Half-Life, Bioshock, Uncharted, MGS4 and probably a lot more I can't be bothered to put down. Damn, I really feel sorry for you guys. Looking at my games collection now, if I only bought games which were split screen/ co-op I wouldn't have many good titles to warrant a console purchase.
No I rented all those other games except for Bioshock and finished them all. So I didn't miss out on anything. I just don't have a bunch of games on my shelf that I'm never going to touch again. There's a big difference between the two. 95% of those games do nothing but go down in value so why hold them.
If this is the only nitpick they have with Killzone 2 then im definitely getting this game! GG never promised this game to have co-op so i dont know why some people are trying to force the issue.
Agree. It's like when they flamed Bioshock for not having multiplayer. They just need something to b!tch about.
For me co-op is not the most important thing in an fps but it sure does make it more enjoyable for instance L4D is an excellent game to play the single player in co-op. Or take the infamous Halo for example the co-op wasn't the first priority in the game but you could play it with a friend and have a blast or GOW one of the best co-op games (not mp).
Co-op is hugely enjoyable and something I find rather important in the genre, or so I thought until I think of my favourite FPS games, HL, HL2 and COD4, none of which contain co-op play. If the single player is solid and the multiplayer deep and addictive I can live without the co-op quite happily. Mind you, if (>IF<) in a few months time a co-op patch is announced I'll be over the moon.
without the help of a buddy, it does make a difference, this is a point some of you are missing, don't knock it unless you have tried it, anyone who has played Gears 1 on the hardest setting along side a buddy will know what I mean, they will also know what I mean when I say that for some reason GOW2 was easier than the 1st on the hardest setting, the whole point however is that it does add a lot to the game and does warrant a higher score if this is the case, KZ2 would be better with CO-OP, I will buy RE5 but only because I know I have a buddy to play it with, otherwise the AI buddy just gets in the way, to be able to tell your buddy to take out the Zombies behind us while you take out the chainsaw dude makes all the differnce in the world. In a nutshell CO-OP rocks.
They said they had no plans for a co-op patch after launch. Oh well, co-op wouldve been nice and wouldve made this game the total package, visuals gameplay and deep multiplayer. Won't take away from the game too much.
dont need co-op. online play is all i need.
Online campaign co op would have been insanely cool in my book, but I can live without it. If the multiplayer is geared for interesting and engaging teamplay (which it seems to be), it's all good :)
i do not care for co-op honestly, i just wish we will see a lot of additional content for multiplayer!, not expensive of course!:)
I PREFER SPLITSCREEN....
Coop in SP would've been a great bonus but most people know that in the MP department is where this game will truly excel.
I love co-op, to me Gears and Halo have both done amazing things with co-op play in making a great alternative to competitive multiplayer. HOWEVER They were specifically designed to accommodate co-op play and this impacted significantly on the design. If Killzone 2 was made without any thought to co-op I can completely understand Guerilla refraining from adding the feature. I must say though from several of the reviews they mention you're ALWAYS fighting with AI friendlies throughout the entire campaign so it should have a decent scope for co-op in making the level routes and cover options numerous and wide enough to for several people (1 player + AI teammates) to make their way comfortably through the level so there might be room for a co-op patch down the road. The main reason though from Guerilla is the loading, which sounds like stream-loading so there would be issues if the players wandered too far away from eachother with AI and assets trying to load for separate players and causing problems. The Halo games use the same loading and get past this by the checkpoint teleportation for the dawdling players.
It seems like this game would have benefited greatly from co-op, hell you already have your AI controlled squad with you the whole time, right? Where's the drawback of being able to utilize one of the squad members as a co-op partner IF you so choose? Honestly I don't think you could make the case with a straight face that ANY shooter would not at least be marginally better WITH co-op, sure it would be less desirable in games like Bioshock where its mostly story driven about one mans life but even then, that opens up all kinds of possibilities for a partner. I think by now co-op should be standard with any of todays shooters, ....I mean it adds alot to the game when you can play with a bud. Now of course many great shooters in the past did NOT have co-op and they were all great on their own, but I find thats very poor reasoning to say that KZ2 doesn't need it or it doesn't matter. Its just natural progression to make great features standard within that genre. Will there be other great shooters in the future that lack co-op that I will still enjoy, I'm sure there will be but it will still always be a small gripe, really I don't know why the OPTION would NOT be available when its a feature so many huge shooter fans like me want co-op. JOY
I could of done with splitscreen co-op, but recent months it was clear that is wasn't to be. Bots is a great replacement, though. It is a shame however that co-op isn't thought about in games anymore.
co-op isnt really my style, i prefer to just play the campain by myself.
Killzone 2 is not in the shop and there is already talk of patches for the game. For example, yesterday (early) put an online review, which also had to turn from. The big downside of the game was, according to the reviewer the absence of a co-op mode. Guerilla has responded with a statement that they released a patch for online co-op that just after the release of the game must be true! 13-01-2009 http://www.powerunlimited.n... I have read also on other dutch sites , so maybe Sony doesn't know it..
killzone is istell a must BUY in first day... if i have the money lol ill sellsome games to archieve my task! hell yeah!
At what point did "Co op" become a baseline in fps/games as say "online functionanlity" in games? If it has it, it has it, if it doesn't it doesn't
Killzone isa the sh*tsa.
I don't need CO-Op in this game, for those who want CO-OP games you have L4D,R2 and Gears 2.
co-op is a great addition to any shooter. left 4 dead is popular because of it. its not a deal breaker not to have it in but it would certainly have added more value and hours of entertainment if they just thought of it in the first place. for those who don't care or don't need co-op; i feel bad that you either have no friends to play it with or i feel bad for the friends of yours that have to sit and watch you play the single player.
GG have said it cant be done because of the story and loading screens and people teleporting theres your answer only a few play co-op now anyway its not really that popular online is the most people want now and GG have gave it us
but i would like co-op i mean who would'nt. playing co-op with your brother, friends, random people online is always fun.
I just do not care about co-op in shooters Time for this issue regarding this game to be laid to rest. No co-op.
Shouldn't GG and not Sony answer this question
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