It's all going to come down to software, like it always does, but for the sake of argument, let's just say the PS3 is looking better than expected. More reports like this one keep cropping up...they gotta mean something....
I bet that guy in the picture was crushed when he ended up selling that PS3 for the MSRP on Ebay. But when the picture was taken he thought he was rich.
Seriously, what's the purpose of these articles?
This can be translated to:
1) The PS3 is not worth buy until 2010.
2) The PS3 is the future so buy it now and be happy after 2010.
advice: if you like a game or you like the brand buy it now.
Who's winning now? That's what's important.
I love the movie time machine to bad its no real. Ohhh wait that means this article is a bunch of BS :(.........................
Thats fanboy fodder. I want the win. Could careless for a console. I hope by "Sony wins" they mean people who choose Sony will be having a kick arse good time gaming by 2010. If it means Sony will have just sold more consoles than their competitors then I can careless. That benefits my life and gaming experience in no way shape or form. Im not concerned about sales. The console will sell without a doubt. People can deny that all they want but PS2's success well a good 70% of it was after the first price cut. So sales will be made. I just want a re-run of the gaming experience I had with PS2. That would be considered a win for me. The rest of you guys can cheer on your console.
"I WANT THE WIN"
the title starts with Report: and the rest of its a statement you don't report things that haven't and aren't guaranteed to happen. We can prove this using a simple test of english skills for example:
Report: PS3 Wins by 2010?
Doesn't sound right now doesn't it?
Saying something and saying something the right way are totally different.
And in 2011 the next gen consoles will arrive...
Is one winning when it sells enough in the end of the life cycle, or have the most buyers of games right now?
I bet the last one. Those will attract more game developers to that platform. 360 is leading the way there.
360 attach rate @ launch: 4.5 game per unit
PS3 attach rate @ launch: 1.5 game per unit
Even the Gamecube had a higher attach rate then the PS3: 1.9 at launch
Plus: Wii is outselling the PS3 in Japan bij a factor 3 or 4 already for months. PS3 is way behind Wii and 360. Those analysts are still holding on Playstations brand name, but they forgot it's declining hard with all that Sony nonsense and lies...
you forgot to mention that the ps3 has a much better launch than the 360,and the ps2 is still outselling the 360
You're wrong on that one. The PS3 didn't have a better launch. It didn't sold more then the 360, if it's not less even! If I can call back the sales from then they got a 2.5 million units world wide in 3 or 4 months world wide, while the PS3 now only has sold 1.5 million in 3.5 months.
Furthermore, the PS3 only got one good game. Not great AAA, just a good one with average reviews between 80% and 90%. The 360 got several games in that score. PGR3, COD2, Kameo, Condemned where some. The PS3 other games got average what, 60% to 70%?
The PS2 is still outselling the PS3. The Wii is outselling the PS3. Listen dude, PS2 cost 100 dollar. Cheap stuff sells. And the PS3 is too expensive. People now buying a PS2 are price searchers/laggards. They don't buy because of brand, but because of price. 360 will hit the 200 dollar line first, Sony can't. So those people buy the 360 the next time
Plus, the 360 outsells the PS3, it just sold 50k a month more in USA while in Japan only selling about 15k less then the PS3. Still 35k a month in advance, not accounted Europe yet. So the PS3 can't catch up with 11 million units already sold for sure
I'm so tired of predictions and don't really care which console wins or loses! When are we all just going to hug and make up and just appreciate what these developers make for us! The best news of the day to me other than the newly released graw 2 demo is that conan was announced for both PS3 and 360!
I don't know why everyone cares so much about the 360. The real competition for the PS3 is the Wii. The 360 is only a Xbox with better graphics and CPU power is like when somebody upgrades his PC. The PS3 come with true next gen components like HDMI and Blue-Ray and the Wii the amazing new control.
The PS3 will outsell the 360 late this year(NPD last info show a diference 54 000 units sold the last month between the 360 and the PS3) The real problem for sony will be the Wii. 4 millons of units sold in just 2 months is incredible.
This is just my point of view, maybe I'm wrong maybe not. Who knows
You do know a console riding on launch hype that is not supply constrained getting outsold by a 1 year old console is a complete and utter disaster , right ?
Of course it isn't you muppet. Expensive console, "one" good game...I'm amazed it's doing as well as it is.
You just can't. The PS3 NEEDED to outsell the 360 while it is in it's launch window. This has nothing to do with fanboyism , these are industry facts.
If the NDC for March has the same 1 , 2 and 3 order the PS3 has cemented itself as the 3rd place console this generation in North America.
This isn't a good thing as a gaming fan I want the PS3 to at least compete. It doesn't matter what your expectations are for it DeepBrown AKA my favorite Stealth Troll. I was simply pointing out that selling 50,000 less than a 1 year old console in the launch window in NA and getting crushed by the Wii 4 to 1 in Japan does not bode well for this system.
I am being a realist while so many people want only happy thoughts for the PS3 , I'm gonna wait , I will not buy a bust of a console especially at $600 , I have a nice PS2 backlog to play through as well as the 360 really getting nice starting in early summer. I also have not had time to finish Twilight Princess on Wii.
"DeepBrown AKA my favorite Stealth Troll"
I beg your pardon?
I only think happy thoughts for ps3? Uh no I don't.
You're being a realist? "I will not buy a bust of a console" - sounds like you've already made your mind up.
And you then bring in the Wii as if your comment was about that...when it clearly wasn't. You said that it was a huge failing that in one territory the Ps3 was selling 50,000 behind the 360. That's what you said. To me although your numbers are real, you are the one is doing the spinning.
I am saying, I am surprised that massively priced console...which you clearly just said "not at that price", which I'm guesing most consumers are saying...is in ONE territory slightly behind the 360..a console which just released its best game ever...and the best game on the market. I wouldn't infer from this that the sales of the ps3 are so weak that it is detrimental to the ps3...now that's spin.
It's not only your point of view it's far fetched and wishful thinking based on fictional facts!, 360 not next-gen? it's seems to be next-gen enough to out perform PS3, HDMI is used to spite the 360 just as 1080p was with the Sony diehards, then once HDMI is out of the way it will be rag on the 360's lack of more space on a disc lol. The hardware in the 360 is more next-gen than you know; matter of fact it's more next-gen than any console, read up then come back and respond.
Can you tell me why the xbox360 is more next gen than the PS3 or Wii?
You know i'm for all the systems but can't understand why some of you guys continue to try and down play the 360! It's really hard to just point out what is more next gen then the other because each system has something over the other! Now I can tell you that the one thing 360 has over the PS3 and Wii are graphics and a much better online service which both will remain on top this entire generation! There's just so much about 360 that screams next-gen and really makes me wonder how anybody in the right mind could not give such a nice piece of hardware the props it deserves!
Yea PS3 messed up real bad at launch but are making up for that quickly by getting (some) of the game that are gonna be multi console out 1st and some exclusive titles out with in a month or so but as for 2010 thats the ending i expect Ps3 to be about even or in the lead next x-mas(2008).
Many 360 fangirls all over this again! Just sit back and enjoy your console, you girls are showing your insecurity more and more as this site goes on.
I don't see why Sony has to bring out the PS4 around 2010. Unlike their previous consoles which were in there primes for about 5-7 years, the ps3 packs far more of a punch; in every area of the console. If MS were to bring out the Xbox 'Meltdown' or something in 2010, they would have to go through the same saga of developing new games for the console. But if the ps3 with its raw power and other flexibilities could last for 10 years, then they would have a far far greater game library, userbase, cheaper console etc. The Xbox Meltdown would be stuck in limbo. Just like what the ps2 is doing now to everything but the ps3 could take it even further than the ps2 with its power and system flexibility
They seem to like it.
Because GAMASUTRA speculates it ......
it must be so!
Say it with me....RRRRUUUBBBISH
How do you win if gamers are not enjoying games now? I think this article is a way to show us that Sony fans are pretty much non gamers. What hard core gamer do you know that sits back and waits for the console to be #1? You want to enjoy the games not your console being the #1 seller.
Now ror the stupid. If the 360 sold 10,000,000 in one year and the PS3 is selling at a rate that is less than the 360 current rate month to date it will take a long time for them to catch up. This 2010 crap is crazy we will all be waiting for the next XBOX or Nintendo by then. The fantasy is over. PS3 is not going to catch up and the Wii phenomenal. The Wii is proof that you do not need movie play back for a games machine and that you do not need graphics as sweet as the Xbox 360.
I think Sony fans have lost touch with video games and Sony has lost touch with gamers, so this is making people all crazy like desperate house wives.
Dude, your so dumb there are no words to describe it. The PS1 and the PS2
sold more games and consoles than any other console format did. So who bought all these games and machines? NON GAMERS as your dumb a$$ put it?
I think he's talking about this generation and not PS1 or ps2!
so now we non gamers...wow! what else?
i dont think early PS3 owners thought before buying.
YOU GUYS HAVE JUST WASTED $600 BUCKS ON A SYSTEM THAT IS NOT EVEN PROVEN...BUT FAILED IN SOOOOO MANY WAYS...
Predictions? please... SNAP back TO REALITY!!!!!!
You M$ fanboys are retarded!!!!
This is crazy for you to say that the ps3 is not proven.....If its not proven its superiority over the x360, then tell me why is M$ trying to upgrade the x360 with hdmi and a larger hardrive for about $600 after just a freakin year????????
But everyone says the sony fans thats bought/buying a ps3 is getting screwed for $600. If Thats being screwed then what is spending $400/without all the add-ons, plus another whopping $600 for a so called upgrade that microsoft said wasn't need in the first place????? hmmmmm that looks like $1000 plus......not even including other things like PAYING FOR INTERNET SERVICES YOU ALREADY HAVE WITH THE INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER!! All that is less than two years of being out in the market...btw with only about two maybe three AAA titles....LOL GOW, Oblivion and hmmmmmmm pick one......
Who's getting shafted??? Not sony fans. free firmware updates, bluetooth technology, wi-fi, 6 plus year system without massive hardware upgrades, free internet services thats going to be great, flash memory card readers, interchangeable hdd that most laptops use(not limited to just sony bigger hdd's), games are already looking better than x360(which 90% of them are direct ports)LOL.., Web browser and many more things that will be offered in the very near future.
I really believe that M$ really put a metal sheet in front of alot of peoples eyes. Dont get me wrong, the x360 is a decent machine but for people to say that its the king, its superior, its better, it has more games, its the winner, its cheaper, its what gamers want blah blah blah.... That just DUMB!!! You cant take down the king with just Hmmmmmm, lets say 6 years of history in gaming console history, a great internet system(KUDOS), first console died a horrible death and one game that people buy the system for..cough cough...Halo..LOL hmm thats really just about it in a nutshell.
That shows no innovation what so ever. Which everyone knows M$ as a company dont have. They are nothing but scavengers with tons of money..... But money wont win this war! sorry but yeah it wont.....
Jrock Good response....
about 2010! i am a gamer first and foremost. I want to enjoy games now. i am a long time fan of Playstation (i had the ps1 and still enjoy the ps2), and i hope like all hell PS3 kicks ass in the future. but for me, that is in the future, and i won't buy the PS3 until there's enough of a game library that interests me.
i hate Microsoft, but i think they make a kick ass game console in the 360, thats why i bought one during the holidays. i don't play online, but i am fully enjoying the gamng experience it offers me.
So, my point, i am no blind lemming to a brand name, as a GAMER, i don't care about 2010. I hope the PS3 has longevity that these type of articles predict, but because the 360 offers me what i want now the PS3 has to work extra hard for my dollar this time around, and by 2010 or 2011, there maybe something new out again anyway, so again i can't be concerned about 2010. just me throwing my opinion out after reading the article and this comment board...
You are both Sony Playstation enthusiast. You buy it because it is Sony’s game console. I bought those game machines with you, You DUMB @ss. Because I used to think and act just like you did but I was much younger. I'm not saying PS3 sucks I'm just saying for a gamer the machine has the wrong focus.
But it is perfect for a Sony enthusiast. You cant fu(k with that.
You are the ones who hate 360 allot more that I will ever hate PS3.
uumm! dude how come there`s a 360 lying beside my tv right now? Yes i`m a huge sony fan and i`ll always buy a playstation before any other console.Do u see my @ss over at xbox 360 news?nope
Dude you are so hung up over sony its scary . Anyone would think you own microsoft ...wait a mo ..are you Bill Gates ? if you are this would explain why you get so defensive over the Xbox. If your not then dude its really not healthy for a member of the general public to come over so defensive about a cosole/company ..its kinda gay. Jesus i own a 360 ..have done since launch day but wouldn't jump to microsofts defence unless i was on the payroll . At the end of the day its just a machine made by a company that doesn't care about you just the way Sony doesn't care about owners of PS3 ..so please get over this microsoft thing because you will never be anything to them but a dollar sign .
Next ... even though i own a 360 and totally enjoy the games ,i will defo be buying a PS3 (already pre ordered infact ) and would never write off a company as huge as Sony especially when they been King of the console heap for so long , to do so would be plain stupidity .
You do realize this is like the 20th article with the same title. Until 2010 it's all just speculation. I don't think everyone of these articles warrants a flame war.
Most of the "Merry Sony Marching Band" on here certainly seem to only dislike (ie. HATE) the Xbox 360 and even the Wii simply because it's Sony's competition. No other real reason. Nothing. Not because Microsoft lied to them. Some people have a valid reason such as their console breaking down (BTW I've had mine since launch day in Ireland and she still chugs away), but they are in the minority. The majority hate the 360 simply because Sony has told them to. Isn't that a litle lame? I have a PS3 and like it. I have a Wii and I like that too. My favourite is still my 360 and, if you'll notice, just about everyone who has all 3 echoes that opinion. Why? Because they come from an objective viewpoint, having experienced all 3 in a non-biased setting and come up WITH THEIR OWN BLOODY OPINION AND IDEAS. They weren't told what to think by some marketing BS and party tag lines. You don't see them going around performing ridiculous exercises in what not to say in order to be respected like "LOLZERZ XBOTS" and "lol u ps3 fangirls r so funneh." Articles like these are stupid and seem to be posted every freaking day, "INQUIRER POLL: WII TO WIN IN TEH YEAR 3000" or "BILL GATES SAID SONY WONT WIN, SO THEY WONT," and what do they actually prove? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. SO STOP. F*CKING. POSTING. THEM.
As well as that, why does it matter? Just because a console sells the most units doens't make it the best. McDonalds sell arse loads of food worldwide, does that make their food better than the fancy italian restaraunt near to you? I would certainly hope not. Then why do they sell more? Because A)it's cheaper, more convenient (only applicable to the Wii), B) Mass Market Appeal, something Sony's previous products have built for them (see: C) and the ability to lie through their teeth with suggestive CG videos, 4 dimensional gaming (which, by the way, all 3D games are) and whatnot certainly bolsters their appeal among the non-tech savvy, and C) Brand Recognition/Loyalty, something that comes from a recognised and trusted source. Another analogy being is Coca Cola better than a fine wine? The point of this is it doesn't matter who sells more consoles/software, what does matter is great games. And the longer we all get hung up on whether or not our consoles can blast asteroids in outer space, the longer we'll get the shaft from the developers and the more of these incredibly dull, infuriating launches will occur.
Thank you 1,000,000 times thank you. You get positive feed back.
It's not more of these articles, it's just the same one ever so repeatedly resurfacing! I've read that two days ago on n4g!
if your chosen console is soooooo good why are you on here bashing another console??? eh? answer me that one? why is it your calling to come on here and say somthing, its very sad.
More reports like this one keep cropping up...they gotta mean something
It means that too many people are over-exaggerating the potential life expectancies of either of thse consoles. Do we expect tech improvements to slow down? By the end of 2008-2009, if not earlier, I imagine sales of present consoles will be dropping off in anticipation of the nex-gen machines arriving (if they haven't already).
The likelihood that the PS3 is kicking @ss in 2010 is about as likeliy as me breaking out my Colecovision tomorrow.
i lov it how one article says ps3 will just break down and die, while others say its gonna flat out win and dominate
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