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The Wii 2 to Cause Games Industry Crash

"In 1983 the video game industry crashed. It was primarily felt in North America, but had ramifications across the globe as companies went bankrupt, a whole generation ground to a halt and analysts lifted hammers skywards, ready to drive nails into the infant-sized coffin of the video game industry. The primary causes of the crash were a glut of consoles (which also led to a price-war), a cavalcade of terrible, reputation destroying games (led famously by E.T) and the growing popularity of the personal computer. Thankfully for all gamers, Nintendo turned up with the NES in 1985 and the tumultuous gaming seas were calm once more.

It is quite ironic then, that the next video game industry collapse could be caused by the same company that once saved it. Let us explain…" - from gameplayer

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SlappingOysters3547d ago

I would like to see a Wii 2 come out with full HD support and perhaps even blu-ray so that it can regain footing with the other consoles and be involved in the likes of Bioshock and Assassin's Creed

I think, however, that the wii will follow the same path as the DS and GBA before it, with a massive life-span with simple multiple versions that are slightly better than each other, but make use of the same games and peripherals.

GWAVE3547d ago

The Wii won't cause a crash. Period. Anyone who knows their history knows that the crash of '83 was mainly caused by three things:

- lack of market expansion
- oversaturation of the market
- crappy games

If anything, multi-million dollar, 10-year-development-cycle games such as Too Human bombing (or Haze, or Lair, or take your pick out of many recent games) is what will kill the industry. As bad as it sounds, the Wii is great for companies to make a good buck on a relatively cheap game. More and more developers are getting swallowed up into bigger companies such as EA, Ubisoft, and Sony.

SlappingOysters3547d ago

I would have thought that the Wii was textbook example of your last two points. The first one is valid though

GrieverSoul3547d ago (Edited 3547d ago )

The WII wont destroy the gaming industry! It will change it radically!
If developers start to realize that they can make a game for 1 million dollares for the WII instead spending 50million dollors for a X360 and PS3 game, and get more profit from it due to sheer ammount of installed base, then it will be over for us! By ´´us`` i mean the ones who come to blogs like N4G, who are awake to 2/3 am playing a videogame. Us that feel a heartwarming feeling when faced to a good videogame story, or jaw drop when we see a gorgeuos scenario ingame while we fiercly try to take down a giant enemy, US that grew up with INTERACTIVE EXPERIECEs whose memories given are the one like Aires death in Final Fantasy VII, like a T-REX coming rampant to you in the first Tomb Raider, the Half Life first level, the MGS2 introduction to Raiden, many and many more found memories will be lost to a simple sentence:

... My arms hurt, i gotta go to bed!

Ah... how many times i delayed my spleep just to get that one item for the Celestial Weapons in Final Fantasy X!

Helghast3547d ago

The Wii success helps the industry grow. Game developers make a profit off of the Wii which is good for the development industry, the Wii brings attention to the industry which also helps. The more money in the gaming industry regardless of what console it's on, is always great for it.

In summary: The Wii is actually really good for the gaming industry, but not especially good for non-Wii players

ChickeyCantor3547d ago

" then it will be over for us! "

I laughed out loud. xD.

elorm93547d ago

I think the problem lies in the fact that developers will try to cash in on shovelware. Who knows if there won't be as many "hardcore" games down the road?

GWAVE3547d ago (Edited 3547d ago )

@ SlappingOyster

"I would have thought that the Wii was textbook example of your last two points. The first one is valid though "

Oversaturation of the market and crappy games? I still don't think we're to the point where it was in the '80s. The "oversaturation" I'm referring to was the oversaturation of video game consoles. Around the time of the crash there were...5 or 6? I wasn't alive during that time but I think that's about right. The "crappy games" I'm referring to were across the board, not only in terms of software quality but also in terms of game cartridges simply NOT functioning! Plus, you have to admit that despite the various crappy mini-game cash-ins on the Wii, there are plenty of games that are truly innovative and that are healthy for our industry. And the Wii isn't the only console out there. There are plenty of "hardcore" games pulling in wads of cash such as MGS4, Halo 3, Gears, etc. Surely you wouldn't lump these games into the "crappy games" category, would you? ;^)

Hardcore gaming will never die out. Believe it or not, but the original NES went through the same grief that the Wii is going through now. The "hardcore" of that time (mostly the PC gamers and arcade gamers) laughed at how the NES was marketed at children and families and they said that it would never get any good games. Then, games like Castlevania, Zelda, and Mega Man started rolling in on the "kid's console" NES and the haters were turned into believers. Also, the NES was an 8-bit console in an era of 16-bit PC and arcade machines, so if you think Nintendo created some new and revolutionary strategy by making the Wii weaker than other current-gen systems then you should think again.

DG3546d ago

I think the author is looking at a worst case scenario. I think it can be averted simply by making Wii2 backwards compatible and making it HD and with a Blu Ray player. Im personally holding out for a Wii HD and 1to1 motion controls. What happened to the 360/PS3 motion controllers that were "confirmed" by the developer.

Mahr3546d ago

"The "oversaturation" I'm referring to was the oversaturation of video game consoles. Around the time of the crash there were...5 or 6?"

This point is correct, though it's off by about a dozen consoles: Colecovision, Coleco Gemini, Atari 2600, Atari 5200, the 2 Magnavox systems, the Emerson Arcadia, Intellivision, Tandyvision, Vectrex, Creativision, Astrocade, all those things that Sears released. Uh, that one from Philips whose name escapes me... Probably a couple others I'm missing, and not even counting any of the home computers.

And there was also the issue that none of these things were particularly well-differentiated amongst consumers. That doesn't apply anymore, in part because we live in the information age with the internet, in part because videogames are vastly more mainstream in terms of media coverage, and in large part because all the consoles offer distinct features: motion controls, blu-ray, premium online service, et cetera.

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Dark_Overlord3547d ago (Edited 3547d ago )

My younger bro used to have a PS2 and wasn't that bad at it, but he got rid of it and got a wii about a year ago. He came to mine today and found it near impossible to use a PS3 controller. Seriously WTF the wii has made his gaming abilities go back a step.

He was trying to play LBP (the training levels) and needed help on pretty much everything, he used to be able to complete GTA from beginning to end

SlappingOysters3547d ago

I hadn't heard a story like that before. Backwards evolution - ouch!!!

Does he love his Wii and play it heaps or is he over it and trying to return to the normal world.

Monteblanco3547d ago

Alternatively, you could considered that, after he get used with the Wii's more natural controls, it became harder to him to go back to the cluttered playstation controls. In my case, it was hard to play MGS4, even considering it has the best controls in the franchise. After playing shooters in the Wii it is hard to move a second analogue stick to aim. It feels unnatural compared to aiming at the screen.

ChickeyCantor3547d ago (Edited 3547d ago )

I don't like playing FPS games with dual analog sticks, Not because i went back a step, but because It's much more natural to aim at a screen.

I can still play with dual analog but, in your brothers case it could be...maybe that just doesn't get the Game?

When you say " trying to play" it means he just started? So maybe he needs to adapt to the new control scheme? I mean GTA and LBP don't exactly play the same.

stevenhiggster3547d ago

Awesome, your the first Wii fanboy I've ever seen, bubbles to you.

FinalomegaS3547d ago

Not as bad but as Sidar & Monteblanco said it right.

COD4 great game but man , this duel analog thing for aiming is so "passer".

Anyone claiming it's better to play with the traditional controller vs the wiimote ( clearly your taste and opinion) needs to check them self.It's like saying you have the PS1 point blank and only one guncom and your friend has the dualshock, I wonder who's going to feel more natural playing the game and kicking butt. Again that's your opinion if you say " I prefer the dualshock over the actual gun).

On topic:

this article is just yet an other speculation. Nintendo hasn't hinted at any other new console and especially a wii2, for all we know MS or Sony could try and play the wii game and they could end up killing the market, who knows...

Monteblanco3547d ago

stevenhiggster, you got me wrong. I like the ps3 and I think some of its games are among the best available right now. However, I am just pointing out that dual analogues are dated for console shooters. There is a lot of unnecessary waggle in many Wii games, but to point the wii remote to the screen in order to aim is just right. Indeed, it is the real thing, it is really hard to go back to dual analogues for aiming.

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solideagle13547d ago (Edited 3547d ago )

there is no doubt about it but the real gamers like us will be pissed again that is 4 sure too.
thanks

coolfool3547d ago

but the real question is, grow it into what?

PixlSheX3547d ago (Edited 3547d ago )

just imagine how could it be without the wii. You know.. just ps3 and 360.

SlappingOysters3547d ago

it would be like last generation, excpet developers would not have to have whole different teams and investments working on specific GameCube version of their multi-format games.

so it would be better.

Voiceofreason3547d ago

FYI, Nintendo accounted for 49% of software last year. They account for almost all industry growth.. To claim it would be better shows a complete lack of knowledge. It would be in the middle of an industry crash right now. It's Nintendo that is selling games. On PS3 they are not selling and some developers have had to shut down.. Which one really looks more harmful to the industry? Nintendo is once again saving the industry but a complete lack of knowledge by many PS era "journalists" has article like this popping up.. I often wonder why hundreds of crap games were ok on PS1 and PS2, but suddenly when smaller developers cant afford PS3 development and go to Nintendo the gaming world is going to end.

ChickeyCantor3547d ago

yeah... ultra high budgets with almost no income from something like the Wii.
Thanks to these profits bigger budgets are more realistic.

PixlSheX3547d ago

"Nintendo accounted for 49% of software last year"

Actually, wii sports, wii fit accounted for 49% of software last year. There are tons of wii games that so many ppl haven't even hear about. And that isn't good.

"On PS3 they are not selling and some developers have had to shut down.."

You mean, sony lied about they are making more money from games. And multiplatform developers lied about they are making more revenue from ps3. (even with proof)

"I often wonder why hundreds of crap games were ok on PS1 and PS2, but suddenly when smaller developers cant afford PS3 development and go to Nintendo the gaming world is going to end."

Maybe because in those times, they weren't crap games. They were all great games, amazing games, u know.. there's a thing called "evolution". But looking wii games is like looking ps2 games. And that's no more impresive.

And how is Nintendo saving the industry?

ChickeyCantor3547d ago (Edited 3547d ago )

By expanding the market, now its MS and SONYs turn to win the hearts of these people. Well if Nintendo goes easy on them =P.

Sometimes people forget that the PS2 is out for +-9 years already. Hence the huge library. Lots of support due the fact it had a large install base.
Now if Nintendo keeps selling like this, Developers WILL jump ship.
From crap to awesome titles, just like the Ps2 lived its life.

If wii keeps selling like this, the Wii library will be no different from PS2 when it comes to quality.

It's common logic.

edit:
You can already see the games for 2009 being a huge jump in quality from those game in 2007/2008.

Voiceofreason3547d ago

Thanks for proving my point by posting the most moronic BS ever... Wii Sports and Wii fit do not account for 49 of those sales. I think you are forgetting MKWii, SSBB,NMH, Boom Blox, Shaun White snowboarding and many other titles..

LAstly for your next idiotic point. Not all PS2 era games are AAA must own. Again you show how little you know. Postman Pat, Spongebob,Rugrats, My little Pony and many other PS2 era games are just as crappy as some Wii games that are coming out.

It was nice of you to prove my point by showing a complete lack of knowledge of the subject. I cant believe someone was actually dumb enough to consider the vast amount of PS2 craps games AAA quality must own.. 90% of the crap on Wii is also on PS2.

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TheMART3547d ago

Comment from Gamer Zone:

"The Wii won't cause a crash. Period. Anyone who knows their history knows that the crash of '83 was mainly caused by three things:

- lack of market expansion
- oversaturation of the market
- crappy games

If anything, multi-million dollar, 10-year-development-cycle games such as Too Human bombing (or Haze, or Lair, or take your pick out of many recent games) is what will kill the industry. As bad as it sounds, the Wii is great for companies to make a good buck on a relatively cheap game. More and more developers are getting swallowed up into bigger companies such as EA, Ubisoft, and Sony."

Well one of those 3 things mentioned causing a crash back then certainly is what we see with the Wii: crappy games. Piles, stockloads of them on the Wii. Its like this:

Games with 8 out of 10 or higher average (Metacritic)

Wii - 43 games
PS3 - 86 games
360 - 129 games

The only great games on Nintendo's platform is the always returning Mario & Zelda. The rest is crap, as crap as videogames on one system can get.

ChickeyCantor3547d ago

Eeeeeh you think those review scores would matter to those gamers who get a game like Beach-sports( or whatever that crappy third party title was).

This is what people like you don't get, it's not about the likes of you anymore.
Their views and tastes are different from yours.
Yes they collide, but that does not mean the crash will happen because "core" gamers think these people buy bad games. To you it might be "crap" to them it is "fun".

I seriously don't get why people are so against this, the casual crowd is healthy for this industry. They were always one of the biggest financial supporters for developers.
( yes in every generation, the only reason a crash could take place is when these people stop buying video games. We core gamers are not enough on our own.)

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