AP News wrote: "Bucking the Obama administration, House Republicans on Wednesday defeated a bill to postpone the upcoming transition from analog to digital television broadcasting to June 12 - leaving the current Feb. 17 deadline intact for now."
With millions of standard TVs out there, advertisers will be missing out on a huge market. People that watch free over the air TV aren't the type to go out and buy more things just to watch 3 channels. I usually never watch TV, so I don't have cable, but every now and again I find myself watching an old episode of the Simpsons on fox. I wouldn't be seeing the commercials any more if all I had was a SDTV.
The government is offering two discount coupons for digital converter boxes, so you can keep your old sd tv and not have to get cable.
Progress does not wait for everyone. Better that we move along than not, and like drpepper said, you can get a discount on a converter box. It really isn't much of an investment. If you can afford to buy games, you can afford a DTV converter box.
Wow you never read the article did you? Says in black and white that the gov ran out of coupons and millions are still requesting them. They said in the article that you didnt read the coupon plan is out of funds. @ poitdat You know I am sure this is news to you but there are millions of people who do not game.....I know its crazy to me too. Also worth mentioning are the older less tech savy consumers who watch a ton of network TV. It's ok I expect the stations will miss those who are not able to switch when it comes to advertising dollars.
people that haven't prepared now will be the same people that probably won't be ready in June either. They've been advertising it for two years already. My father-in-law is Canadian and still knows about this turnover happening.
I was only using games as an example, as a converter box doesn't really cost that much more than one. Why on earth would not gaming affect anyone's ability to purchase a converter box? And they really aren't difficult to set up. Even people who aren't tech savvy should be able to do it. If they can't for some reason, it really isn't that hard to find some help.
I didn't mean to disagree with you ThatArtGuy, I'll give you a bubble.
They are still sending out new coupons as older coupons are not being redeem within the 90 day limit, there is a waiting list, but you can still get the coupons.
digital tv =/= cable.
The box only cost $20, your argument isn't valid since this is the same customer base that would spend a lot or close to excess on food, cellphones, iPods, laptops, and the very TVs you are talking about.
Hey it their own fault for being caught with their pants down. The WHOLE DTV transition had been known for a little more than a year and a half give or take. We ordered our coupons in the beginning of 2008 and we got them around July. Many people procrastinate too damn much.
in a few months it will be the same amount of people...
or spend more than 30 minutes trying to apply for a coupon, I'm not getting one. I already have to buy one for my mother. So buying another one, just to watch (maybe) an hour or two a week, is completely out of the question. #2) We are talking about USA citizens. You honestly think over 75% of them will be ready? 25% or more, is a lot of ad space. (commercials) If I was an advertiser, I would want as many people as possible to see my ads.
This is going to sound like the post I made about the other day. People will just procrastinate about getting converted until you force them to do it. Pushing back the date more and more will just give them more time to put off converting. The world is moving forward, people, not staying in the past.
Our economy is already in bad condition. It's so bad that people are calling in their unemployment and don't get checks cause there is no more money! If they switch over and people don't have the boxes and can't afford new TV's, that will lower ratings and such, resulting in TV studios having to let go of workers as well! This whole thing was messed up from the start, and whoever was in charge of planning should have been shown the door a long time ago.
@ AAACE5 People have known for over 5 years that this changeover was coming. They've had plenty of time to convert themselves. You can't blame the relatively recent economic troubles on them not changing over. It's the simple case of people not converting simply because they didn't have to before. People often put things like this off until it's a complete necessity. Now that it's about to hit them in the face everyone's raising a big brew-ha about it. The fact is they had time and the opportunity before the economic crisis hit to convert, but they procrastinated. Now, it's too bad. Putting it off will bite those people who didn't convert in the ass. Those of us who did, will enjoy it in the near future. It's not expensive to convert but peoples' nature to put things off until it's necessary will bite them this time. It's unfortunate that this is occurring during an economic downturn, but it's happening and the country is moving forward. It's not the government's fault those people didn't adopt in the 5 years they were given.
The sooner we progress the better.
I know the difference between digital and analog, but what are the benefits switching to digital only? Why cant they just keep both?
you understand the difference but cannot see the advantages?
In a nut shell analog takes up a lot more space than digital and space is actually running out. Going all digital frees up space and will allow for the delivery of more services. Also, analog is taking up so much space that in some areas there isn't space for addition digital content because analog is clogging up the spectrum.
also with a digital signal, you either get a perfect picture or no picture at all so its either on/off, with analog you get fuzzy signals and bits of picture until its pefectly tuned then sometimes you cant get a perfect picture anyways :)
Having an all digital connection could benefit other components as well, possibly creating better connections for cellphones, wi-fi and other components. Also, if you don't have cable of sat. you may be able to pull in more channels from other areas. In so many words, it opens more doors for us.
Thank god, finally the US gets to progress... It passed unanimously in the Senate so I thought our antiquity was guaranteed... I am happily surprised :D
What's real news doing on here!?
but on n4g only flamebait is worth talking about. JOY
90 percent of the time I logged in there is a PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360 is finished article. I would get on more if there was actual news the majority of time.
this is actaully tech news wich is part of this site too and probally one of the bigest tech news probally in the last few years.
The lord be praised, someone is still sane over there.
Obadiah just got 600 MILLION more US dollars approved for more coupons... BTW I'm going to start calling Obama Obadiah since that's what spell check tells me.
Thank God. Stupid democrats already pissing me off, trying to delay it by 4 months.
Yea seriously stupid Democrats, what next? They gonna start a war due to imaginary WMDs and nearly bankrupt the country? GEEZE Give us our digital tv already! *high five*
I love how when I call out the Dems, I get retards like you that start cracking little jokes on Republicans, because If I hate the democrats it must mean I love the republicans right?
I just don't like politicians and politics in general, seems like a bit of a waste of time to me.
I think they've should've waited. Many families that don't have much income prolly haven't been able to afford 500+ HDTVs. June would've been a good date because it would allow those who aren't as financially stable to use their income tax and other resources to purchase one. I think Republicans shot it down because they're still butthurt from the election. Edit: 2 in a few? Nice!! ^_^ Wow 3 is free!!! Could you guys at least respond to why you disagree? I really wanna see the reasons behind it, so we all can discuss the issues.
You don't need a HDTV, all you need is a converter box or to already be hooked up to cable. As was mentioned previously, we've all known about Feb. 17 being the date for about two years now. Stupid idea to delay it in the first place, as doing so could just start a chain of delays that cost broadcasters and others more money.
A date was set just after 9/11 to change to digital to free up analog signals for emergency broadcasts and the like... since then the date has been delayed countless, countless times (at least several years' time). This date has been set for two years, if you haven't gotten a $50 converter box or a new tv for the past couple of years, I guess you're out of luck for a little bit. To be honest, all the coupons are doing is inflating the price from under $40 to "just over $40" since the coupon drops $40 off the price then and there... By the way, I didn't disagree with you.
Its nice to have reasons behind disagrees, That's how discussions should be. N4G has just gained +1 in maturity. Bubbles to the two that replied.
and if you can't afford a 50 dollar converter box in two years of saving, perhaps you should buy less crack or get a paper route and stop watching so much tv. I mean, it's not that hard to save 6 cents a day... I can FIND 6 cents a day on the ground.
i wonder if with this sony will release in the states play tv il get that day one i want that soo bad... hopefully with television going digital we can use it on us ps3s
... off-base as well. PlayTV is a DVB-T tuner (from wikipedia: PlayTV is a twin-channel DVB-T tuner). US digital signals are ATSC. (Yet, it does not mean sony cannot build one, just it will take some reengineering, and cause more development costs).
What are the advantages, if any, of switching to DTV?
* Clearer picture (no more snowy display) * More spectrum (up to 6 sub-channels for one of today's) * Some free spectrum (for 4G network use) * Dolby digital 5.1 sound * and much more
I think you will see a more wide selection of HDTV come down in price now that they will be the norm. They will be more consumer friendly and affordable for a house hold. The only complaint I have about living in Japan is the big things cost a lot more here then back in the states. But its all good.
Plus it uses around half the energy to broadcast in digital than in analog, if it matters.
It's good that the House turned it down. People have had a full year to get coupons. If they can't begrudge themselves the effort to to make a simple phone call for 10 minutes or use the internet and fill out a form for 10 minutes: then they deserve to be left behind. Congress shouldn't reward laziness. Yours truly picked up 2 coupons back in August.
I think digital uptake is one of the things that the UK is doing better than other countries (yeh..lol). In the UK analogue is being switched off region by region up until about 2012 if I remember correctly. Hell we have Freeview over here, pay a one off fee and then you can watch a set amount of digital channels including BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Five all for free. If your not sure what Freeview is then you can read it up on wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
Like Lil' John says, YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH HHHHHHHHH! OK!
Really? DTV is the cause you're going to champion F*cking GOP
Unless you use one of the things in the picture below to watch television then you don't need a converter box. A HDTV or digital cable box (Comcast has been trying to pull this crap) isn't required either. If you have cable tv already you don't have to do a thing. http://img206.imageshack.us...
Thank heavens for the House. This was such a dumb decision on Obama's part, I'm glad they turned it down. I can't believe he wants to delay 'Change' just to spend more money and give people more coupons for something like TV which isn't even a necessity, but a luxury.
I agree with house on this one. Changing date would just confuse people and public announcement for the Digital TV switch has been going on for a while. I think most people who cares would know by now.
Advertises don't stand to lose anything if people who cannot afford or choose not to purchase a $20.00 device so they can continue to receive free over the air signals. These are the same people that would not be purchasing most of the products being advertised anyway. They are simply losing out on potencial clients that did not purchase their products in the first place.
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