gamesblog.ugo.com: "Since everyone seems to think I have an unnatural hatred for all things Killzone 2 (I don't), I've decided to compile a list of the highs of Killzone 2's campaign." Beware of spoilers.
Jessica Alba(before baby) Jessica Beil Jennifer Conolly uh.. I love the Ps3. and I love Killzone 2. You guys are incredible. I give up. My original comment said something about 4d, and why UGO will flop the game after saying good things about it. For those of you that come in later confused at why people are talking about 4d, when women are listed.
open zone that way ----> minus bubbles for you.
The 4th dimension is time. The Helghan planet deforms over time...like...you know...time.
ur exactly right especially in the last stages of the game where you can actually see the effects the nuke has on the environment... Motorstorm had 4d elements so what did Sony lie about... @Blademask - well you have idiots on both of side of the fence..some PS3 fans as with 360 fans dont read to understand the fanboy goggles are on 24/7...so as you already know since you've been on this site for awhile...ignore the dis-agrees and dumb comment responses.. edit - @Blademask dude I know ur not a 360 fanboy but as I said sometimes ppl dont read to understand they just skim through ur sentences pick it apart then respond.... to the ppl complaining I read the original comment and there was nothing fanboyish about it other than him stating the obvious that has happened so many times..a good preview and then when it comes to the review they give a crappy score..
Got no problems with negative comments on Killzone 2 or any other PS3 game as long as its done in a constructive way. Flame bating or poorly written rants belong in the open zone. If i want to rant or flame bate, you will find me in OZ.
4d is just basically the aging of things over time in a game or computer simulation right? Couldn't they just program that in without having to call it 4d or something? or is it different every time? Also, where was that in motorstorm?
Same dude. <3 Blademask
I said Motorstorm contained 4d "Elements".. it was the 1st game to feature track deformation , so as time progressed the track and the feel to it changes as well... edit : no probs XD
Danja: Ah, alright thank you, was just clarifying. Wasn't sure where it was exactly.
Randy keeps ultra-hating on Killzone 2 and he's just doing this for hits. Don't bother clicking.
Man i hate when they say Spoilers it makes it SOOO much more tempting to click View Video or like when u c the sign for DO NOT PRESS BUTTON I WANT TO SO BAD IT HURTS
They do it purposely. They know, that if they tell you not to do something, you're gonna do it anyway. I had a convo with a dude one time, and he was getting pissed off at those things that say you can't do this. He says something along the lines of this: "I hate people who say I can't do something! Tell me I can't do something and I'll do it anyway! Now tell me I shouldn't do something, and I may pause to think about it before I run off to do it anyway"
blademask youre always welcomed here my friend
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Brian Cox-Scolar Visari= Amazing voice actor. Really plays the role well as a dictator.
This is my first comment on n4g in over 7months, i didn't have internet for that time period, the problem i have is i don't know which game to get killzone 2 or motorstorm:pr. I already have a lot of fps i need a racing game, iam trying to get a game for each different genre. I still need a rts, racing and a rpg game(for ps3). I used to have motorstorm but i traded it. Any ideas people? Killzone 2 or motorstorm 2? I know damn well that i will enjoy both games.
hmm well I have played Motorstorm 2...and it's the best off-road racer ever IMO... so you could buy that now... then you have a month till KZ2 comes out because you really should buy both games
I was thinking of getting motorstorm 2 first, how is the soundtrack danja? The first MS had a great soundtrack. I don't think i can get both in a month i got insurance + taxes to pay haha thats over $750. Yeah it sucks, but i got like 10 ps3 games though & i only bought 1 used game, i try to get brand new games so developers get paid for their time consumption they put into the game, thats why i try to get games that i really like, i try not to buy 'em used. I think i will get ms2 first than try to manage $ & then get kz2.
the soundtrack is fairly similar to the 1st game Nirvana, Queens Of The Stone Age, David Bowie, Death From Above 1979, Fatboy Slim and Slipknot to name a few. plus it has the custom Soundtrack feature
@dalibor, Even if you already have some shooters, I still say pick up KZ2 first because I want as many PS3 owners to be all over KZ2 as possible when it releases, because the last thing I want to hear after KZ2 releases is some stupid game journalist dogging KZ2's initial sales because some PS3 owners didn't get it when it initially came out..... But if you just must have a non-shooter, then go for Motorstorm Pacific Rift and get Killzone 2 around early March or something.
DANJA it has the custom soundtrack feature, hell yeah, that is f*cken awesome, makes you wonder why rockstar didn't implement this feature for gta4? Wtf? Every sports and racing game should have custom soundtrack imo. Thanks for the info, i really hadn't kept up to date w/Motorstorm. ACLAYPS3 you got a hell of a point there, KZ2 is kinda like what goldeneye was for n64, an awesome shooter that anyone w/a ps3 needs to at least check out. I think that i will take your advice, iam going to get Killzone first, count me in for the sales. Kz2 was in production a lot longer than Motorstorm Pacific Rift. Lets really make Killzone 2 the halo killer that it is haha. Theres just to many games haha, don't forget resident evil is just around the corner also along w/command and conquer, not to mention bioshock and fallout3.
Motorstorm 2 as Danja said is the best Off road racing game sofar. No question about it. KZ2 is set to set a new bench mark for FPS. My advice is, buy KZ2 first if you like FPS more than Racing and then save money for Motorstorm 2. I do what you do as well in buying every different game of each genera but in the end i always enjoy one genera more like Action adventure for me over the others. So for example. If you buy Motorstorm 2 but you prefer to play FPS. You will regret not playing KZ2 first even though you feel that you have a complete set of different games if you bought MS2 first. However if Racing is your favorite then you can't go wrong with MS2. As for RTS. I recommend waiting for Stormrise from Creative Assembly the dev of the TotalWar series.
CMRBE I like racing and fps's equally, but i think i will get KZ2 first, then MS2 and maybe resident evil, i sure miss playing silent hill though, the first two were awesome. One genre that is still gapless is vehicle mayhem/car combat, where the heck is twisted metal or vigilante 8? Imagine playing up to 32 people online, with teams and all, you could even have a king of the hill type of mode. It would be cool if there was a vigilante 8 vs twisted metal game haha. It would be fun if they had an upgrade style system for online play, something like cod4 and resistance 2 or killzone 2, where you can choose from options to have stronger armor, more speed or stronger firepower/special weapon. I will keep an eye out for stormrise, thanks for the heads up.
I'm expecting this game to rock my world. ;)
I'm looking really forward to the campaign of this game, I know most the fuss is about the engine and the multiplayer. But I feel that the campaign of this will have incredible set-pieces and I hope we have a beginning level much like the first level set in the trenches in Killzone 1. Something that epic on much better hardware could be utterly amazing. I ain't reading for spoilers, but I'm looking forward to the incredible training for the multiplayer.
^^ I totally agree. Even though it seems a lot of people are clamoring over the Multiplayer in KZ2 more than anything else, I'm actually looking forward to the Single Player even more. The Single Player campaign in Killzone 2 looks totally Epic and I mainly buy games for the Single Player aspects of the game.
bubbles for you 2.. Aclayps3 you're not alone, Im a single player guy too, after watching(not so much cuz of spoilers) some vids from KZ2 single player Im sure we will see the most epic SP FPS to date.. mark my word . and about Multi player,may be you dont remember, but I do that sony said the GG working hard to provide the best multiplayer experience they can,and MP is the most important aspect of KZ2.
Heres hoping that Killzone 2 will be just as awesome to play as Metal Gear Solid 4 and Uncharted was to play offline. I thought that Heavenly Sword, R2, COD4 and LBP also had a fun single player campaign(along with others).
That's why I'm glad Killzone 2 is the "total package".Even Warhawk for the PS3 has a legacy given to it by the PS1's Warhawk. For me it's hard to play a game with "two teams fighting for capture the flag, deathmatch, TDM" and a few random add-on gameplay styles when you don't feel a connection to the players or what they're fighting for... then the gameplay all runs together, which is why I think people are always trying to go under the pretense of "innovation" when looking for something new. For me it's what's new about war? How are the guns any different in any game so much so that they don't do the same thing? (With the exception of Fracture, maybe, there's very little to distinct any game if there's no background on the characters you play. That's why I think Star Wars Battlefront sold so many off the bat, even though it had ZERO for it's storyline... who doesn't know what a Jedi is, or didn't want to fly a X-Wing fighter or Tie Fighter?
I was actually quite angry about Warhawk having the SP part of it dropped, although its a great game, I prefer a game to be a 'real game' and not just an application for virtually killing people on the other side of the globe. I would still welcome a full in depth SP campaign for Warhawk now. I never played the original Warhawk and SCEE hasn't given it to us on PSN as far as I know.
i love the KZ universe and the story of the first game.
So much hype is never a good thing but at least you have the graphics right Nah it looks solid enough but i'd like to play it first for the best opinion of it obviously - so far it looks gorgeous and cod like (which is fine for a lot of folk) but sci fi cod isn't what i would want from my 'Halo beating fps' People will automatically accept this game as best fps purely on the visual rush they have, leaving any aguements following as fairly pointless Personally i don't think presentation or visual clout of K2 can be faulted and it all looks very hollywood.Videos so far have shown it to be less exciting regards to how each gameplay part plays, even though action on screen appears to be all happening.Essentially the same thing gameplay scene occurs over and over which is fine if you have additional layering, but Killzone2 doesn't - even Gears2 slips in this respect regards to it's bad use of its's additional layer K2 looks great and wont play like a dog but it will appeal more to those that play through once hollywood style(most people)and that's a bit of a shame
its all fine and well when someone pulls the gameplay card...but nearly every time they do it...they leave the glaring contradiction right in front of them unnoticed... what you just said...would then apply to ALL first person shooters... there are currently only 2 different forms of single player first person shooters...linear...like Halo, CoD, KZ2, Gears, etc...and open world...like Crysis, or Far Cry 2... now where killzone 2 is different is that its being treated as if it 'should' have made a 3rd faction in this genre...and when people found out 'oh look, its just another cod clone'...and started whining about AI, and made generic gameplay complaints that had no justification...as they had not even played it anyway... and since you said it plays like a sci-fi CoD...you have obviously never touched the game yet...which is perfectly fine...as I have yet to come across 1 person that actually played the game and came away unimpressed... if you are saying its sci-fi CoD because its a linear scripted single player first person shooter...so be it...but DO NOT criticize it for that...as all of its competition is guilty of the exact same thing...but I 100% assure you...if you ever do play the game...you will see that it plays and feels NOTHING like any Cod game...SP or MP wise...the two games have radically different styles that are not one in the same...most point kz2 towards a cod clone because its grounded in a realistic, albeit futuristic, setting...but the guns fire bullets...enemies are human (mostly)...etc...but the similarities end there...the cover mechanic, the buddy system. the weight and momentum you character has, etc...all differentiate killzone 2 from any other shooter I have ever played...and that is saying something...as i've played more or less every great, and a handful of bad, first person shooters ever created on at least one occasion...
Kleptic win an argument "Fatality!" in this news' comment section. Oh...don't forget, KZ2 doesn't have auto-aim like found in COD series. How do critics respond to it? KZ2 aiming is bad. LMAO!!
NEED THIS GAME!!!
I truly see the much underestimated POWA of the P-S-3. Great to be an owner now.
for anyone to talk or think like you do don't play video games, well. I could see you playing gameboy with your two step dads I bet youR P-S-3 is the first playstation you have ever owned IN your young life. What are you like 12?... and stop with your stupid PMs
Are you starting to annoy your own self . You been posting like your 12 since you sign up on N4G . so why get mad now
Nah most fps are linear, it's purely to do with allowing for additional gameplay type because what's there can only be played out essentially the same each time - something yes you can level at any shooter but that's exactly what i'm saying of Halo and not 99.9 of other fps's - and that's probably being generous to the ammount of other shooters that are markedly different There are fantastic shooters of course that don't need the magic that halo has and they work very well in there own way like the still great Goldeneye or Halflife2.Sometimes all a shooter fan wants is a great story with a game that feels solid - but does K2 even boast great scripting with intelligent well realised characters like how Halflife and Halo has.Even the wonderful brilliant Halflife2 suffers from a lack of constant replayability though - it's great but after the 2nd playthrough you notice it's exactly the same moments played in ever so slightly different ways (not enough to warrant many many playthroughs like Halo).If K2 matches up to Halflife2 then it will have done very well - it's trumped the visuals i guess of all fps(regards to effects, and sheer polygons used(not even sure about Crysis tech) No K2's biggest card can only be it's graphics because it's perfectly competent gameplay is not big enough mark it out as any better than cod Those that have not complained with aspects of K2 are more likely just people taken in by the holy wow look at that of it - it's not like 99% of gamers really know what they're talking about is it? And heres the thing.You could argue that you would happily play through campaign again and again.The trouble comes from having played so many damn shooters, all we have ever with each game is more or less go through exactly the same design again and again.Unless a person has played just a few fps, this same template of shooting people or aliens in exactly the same way does indeed get tedious.You have the new story of weapons that help make it feel different but they don't really change that a different game is practically the same.If every fps used the template of Halo for example, then fps would soon become stale like how it is for just a bout all fps out there Gears manages to sperate itself thanks to how different it is regards to certain mechanics - same too for how Uncharted feels real nice.There are not too many games that do what these two games to so well so they are a delight to play because of it K2 does sperate itself quite a bit thanks to graphics but is still using the tried tested combat design that so many games have done before - the cover system doesn't really change things as much as some people might suggest, in fact it could reduce what people might actually want from a shooter of this type - they can i guess not use this at all if this is indeed possible If you don't know what that design difference is of Halo then you obviously haven't played it enough.But like i said, were all games to suddenly start using Bungie's additional formula to combat design, then it all starts getting stale again These are facts by the way and not at all subjective opinions.Disagreeing is fine but that wont change anything.Nothing contradictory about any of it
KZ2 not really different? Then tell me this...have you even bothered reading the back story of the entire Killzone universe? I'll even help you out: KZ universe doesn't even have a clear idea who the "bad guy" or "good guy" is. Who the baddie or goodie was purposely left out vague by the developers, leaving only the players to decide themselves what kind of ideology they really are fighting for. I said this many times before, the bad guys from Halo and COD are just that...bad guys for the sake having bad guys in a game. That storyline is approach is refreshing and different in that it mirrors real-world politics without explicitly referring to it. And no...how you said you can enjoy Halo after playing it too many times is SUBJECTIVE...and NOT a fact! And oh, not everyone liked Halo's formula or COD4. All games are a matter of personal tastes, and from that your argument completely fails, as you assume that everyone has the same gaming taste as you. In case you're wondering, I've had played Halo and Gears of War, but they weren't my cup of tea, so it DOESN'T matter what "gaming design" and other artsy mumbo-jumbo that they may have. Before you accuse me of being a blind Sony fanboy, then let me tell you this: I hated MGO; never liked SOCOM (except for Socom 2); terribly hated Resistance 2's online MP; never got into Shadow of Colossus; and I have a very casual approach to the GT series. Sorry, but that "feeling" of yours is just your feeling, and not the same with anyone else. In short, your argument is pretty much subjective. Sorry, but it is a FACT.
"You’re surrounded by smoke, shouting, explosions" Uuuuuuuuuum, Call of Duty 3 anyone?
8 days till my Gamestop demo goes live on PSN...then I can strat killing the helghast with no mercy
macalatus Yes it's subjective about how much you enjoy a game but my opinion is of something that is already a fact when looking at if a game is better or not.Truth is if you understood how Halo is set up to be enjoyed and don't find this appealing, then you wont get the same fun experience as me - from a gameplay point of view though the game mechanics are more layered and better as a result IF you can enjoy them.If you can't then you will obviously have more fun with less layered shooters.Subjective doesn't mean things can't be fact, it's only that people think this.This isn't a case of i like tea more than coffee and anyway of course i couldn't realistically compare Halo against heavy tactical shooters, as Halo at heart is a twitch shooter like Gears and Killzone2 - that is why i can argue this because these are same category games You may not like Halo or Gears and that's cool but that means you then like inferior shooters of the twich genre.There are plenty of genre that i like certain inferior games more than the best ones. Nothing wrong with that as certain things just don't appeal to the less intense dumber part of me.That or i just like something more about a game.It's purely down to what appeals sometimes but i'm still able to recognise if i'm playing a worse game when it happens.Something about Halo is definitely not your thing so why play it but that doesn't make for a worse game.Rather the leader in this particular genre is something you have decided not to play in favour of something worse but more appealing to you.Cool I'm sorry you don't get my way saying this, it shouldn't and wont stop you enjoying those games any less
Dude...you're simply making a FACT out of your SUBJECTIVE experience. Look, buddy...you're calling a game that doesn't match to your subjective opinions as "inferior". Fine...but unfortunately you're trying to force down everyone's throats (like your post above) that they like "inferior shooters" which implies they "suck" at enjoying games. Put it this way...I can say the gameplay mechanic of KZ2 as better since I enjoyed it better than Halo so therefore Halo is inferior. See what I did there? The only thing you did wrong was to say that your opinion values matter than anyone else (I know that you were implying that!) by calling it a FACT in order to end up all arguments. Let me help you out again buddy....wrapping something around your subjective experience, calling it a fact so no one would argue with you is pathetic. That is a FACT too, not a subjective opinion, buddy!
lol i stand by what i say, that's fine if you want to believe your way too It's a different concept is all, possibly a bit like how a concept such as music not having infinite variation potential is also hard for people understand that are used to the opposite You are right with what you're saying of course but you're not really getting what iv'e said and so it's obviously going to seem wrong.If something is subjective then clearly it can not be fact if you're looking at it in just that way.But just because somebody thinks something is better to them, that obviously doesn't make it better - it is opinion that is wrong or right Your opinion is that my opinion can't be right in that there is no wrong or right here and that my point - one of us is.If you want to think it's you then fine, i'm quite happy knowing it's me.It's not like we could somehow persuade each other to think differently Anyhow that's the beauty of argument isn't it and of course were all entitled to our opinions.Your opinion of me is after all that i'm talking cr&p lol
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