the single player is extroadinary yet tomb raider and prince of persia games get 9's from the same mag,, now what shall we think.. does a game in 5 years development with the best console graphics and a MP (better than cod4 trust me iv played beta) gets a 9. this sounds fishy
If you're implying that they degraded it simply because it was Sony produced, I hope you realize that this is the Official Playstation Magazine. If anything, they are biased towards games that are published by Sony.
EDIT: On second thought, I can't tell if you are implying that they degraded it or are casually stating that you expected a high score such as this. I agree with the post above mine... elaborate please.
cmbre is one of the few people on here with any integrity, so maybe he will elaborate a little.
without the whole review i dont see how any real conclusions can be made of this, other than they had problem with AI and atmosphere. maybe cmbre is referring to those generic we dont like the atmosphere things that reviews sometimes revert to when they've ran out of ideas.
accustom to the media generally holding PS3 exclusives to a higher standard. I am really surprised that KZ2 got a couple of 10's already and this 9 is more of what i expected from the media.
Perhaps the media expected more from the PS3, i am not sure.
so you're saying, ps3 games are usually scrutinized heavily compared to others? i do tend to see reviews upping the critical ante when it comes to ps3 games, like you said expectations must be high.
Well much of it is the unrealistic amount of hype that the media (keyword here is the media, not Sony) has built up for it. They have convinced themselves that this is the saviour of the PS3 (and no, the PS3 does not need a saving grace) and have reinforced in their minds over and over again with their complete disregard for journalistic integrity.
Another thing is Killzone 1. Some people were disappointed with the first installment, so the media is expecting Killzone 2 to make up for the first game and more. Halo 3 got away with being average because the first two were rather good (well Halo 1 more so than Halo 2) so everyone let 3 slip by. Killzone is the opposite, it will be scrutinized more than many other games out there just because of these expectations.
like the article that questions whether Killzone 2 will bring anything new to the genre, and as if, if Killzone 2 DOESN'T, then it will be graded poorly. However, these questions were not asked when Gears of War 2 came out, whether it added anything to the 3PS genre or if Call Of Duty WaW brought anything new. Those just slid right on by. Then upon second thought, people realize maybe those games were graded too nicely.
I also believe that some of the seemingly mild score (9s) when Killzone seem to deserve higher is due to the fact that fans all around have been bashing them for handing out 10s left and right for some overhyped games. Reviewer these days are just less inclined to hand out 10s for fear of sounding too biased.
I also think that, contrary to what people think, official Playstation Magazines (which aren't owned in any way by Sony) tends to be less biased and honest with there reviews because all they review are Playstation games. They are not comparing them to games on another console and thus there is no outside influence. They are just reviewing the games for what they are, games.
It would be the end of the world.. Gaming sites would all have review count downs.. the media would be bashing the ps3 saying the 360 is the true next gen console. Killzone 2 will be held as the greatest game ever made. the 360 would rule all humans. people will be dressing up as helgast and taking pictures of themselves taking a dump on ps3's... Adam Sessler and Kevin Pereira will make love... Kevin Pereira will go on youtube and scream like a girl saying he is KILLZONED all the haters be damned!!! Peter Moore will come back to MS with a killzone 2 tattoo on his arm.
Eurogamer, 1up, gamedaily, gamesradar, gametrailers, gamespot, and edge will give killzone 2 an honest review and give the game a 10..
Yeah you guys are right. Microsoft and the Xbox 360 deserve absolutely nothing. They deserve no praise at all and have done nothing at all in gaming. Every bit of praise they have received has been paid for and any person who for a second thinks the Xbox 360 is a good console is also paid.
Jesus, listen to you guys. Maybe your joking James but the joke is old.
I guess last gen when the Xbox was getting shat on left and right it was because the entire media was anti-MS and Sony was paying left and right for all their coverage? You can't have it one way and ignore history.
i dont think thats what he meant. he was referring to reviews and YOU know ms published games 'somehow' get more love from reviewers than sony published games. Hopefully that trend will end with KZ2...we'll see
had 6 Killzone 2 pre-order cancels within the past week, and i cannot figure out why! Why the hell would cancel this game, much less 6 of them?? I hope this was an act of needing to get their 5 bucks back for a quick fix and not so much they didn't want the game after all. There has been nothing but positive hype about it anyway.
While 9 is a decent score for a normal game, I dont think its good enough here.
Heres why.
Everyone agrees, this game is so far ahead of everything else, even Gears looks primitive. I dont just mean graphics either. The gameplay is on its own level as well. This game does everything right. It lived up to what everyone said it couldn't. Its slapped doubters down with a sharp right hand and thrown the gaunlet for anyone brave enough to even attempt to pick it up.
My ideal scoring system is out of 100 and no game would ever get 100 because they're not perfect. However if mags and sites are going to use a 10 out 10 system, then this is one game that has raised the bar so high and done everything so right, that it definately deserves a 10. In fact looking at some of the overatted games on Metacritic that scored high and were buggy messes, I think anything under 9.5 for this polished gem is insulting. When was the last time in this age of patches, you saw a game so complete?
I'm tempted to buy a PS3 for this, I'm a big COD 4 junkie and this looks like a great mix of COD 4 and TF 2 but with better graphics. I wish this was on 360 ;(
If there is nothing else that interests you on the PS3, don't bother. However, if there are games already out that you are interested in, then go for it, even if that includes PSN games.
Kazakhstan is a pretty poor country where not many people have the luxury of playing videogames. very insensitive to make fun of them.. have some decency kid.
and are you implying the same for Portugal? they might not be the richest country in Europe, but they do have videogames, and are intelligent enough to review them professionally. or.. wait... is USA the whole world? sorry i forgot.
have fun reading the 9.4-9.7 review of KZ2 on IGN soon.
also, using Hitler as a joke avatar.. oh my god how sad. you probably dont even know anyone who actually fought in WW2. Hitler was no joke.
WHAT?!?!
Oh wait. 9/10. I thought it was out of 50. Thats the 105th 9+ this game has got.
Everyone worldwide is gunna get:
KILLZOOOWWWNNNEEEEEDDD
like the ususal media and how they grade Sony developed games.
Even more greatness! :D
Review , so excited about this game.
So ready for the demo to go live, does anyone know what will be in the demo?
I can't wait for this game! This is one of the main reasons I bought a PS3 back in 2007.