Factor 5 and Sony Computer Entertainment released another thirteen screens showing the amazing graphics of the game Lair
And so it has begun we are starting to see the new shots from the latest builds and they look incredible as expected, what you didn't think these games weren't going to look even better like Motorstorm?
Over the next year you will see what is possible when things are optimized for PS3, GDC is going to be a great time for PS3 owners. Oh for anyone who's missed it Luke from 1UP has changed his tune as well he's just got to take a look at the new Ratchet and Clank "It's way better than even expected" "You know what we saw at GDC that we thought was CGI, well that ingame but running at an even better frame rate" "This is going to make people say wow" The latest 1UP podcast.
The screen shot of flying over the ocean just sold me on the game.lol Its the simple things that do it for me sometimes. The closes I have ever been to a dragon game was Breathe of Fire on SNES. lol
WOW this game is really really gorgeous, i think lair will be the game that will turn everything around for sony!
I think that screenshot 10 is probably the best. It is almost breathtaking. The ocean...the dragon and the textures on that weird creature are so "real" and amazing. WOw.
Anybody think that picture 2 isn't up to the standard of the other ones...looks like an earlier build. Also I think these screens are a month old.
Question...why does it take so long for positive ps3 news to be posted? But lame negative ones of bloggers having a go at the ps3 get posted immediately?
answer 360 fanboys
but the water is the best I've ever seen. Amazing.
"Question...why does it take so long for positive ps3 news to be posted? But lame negative ones of bloggers having a go at the ps3 get posted immediately? "
Question... why do you feel the need to bring up something like this? If you really cared about putting an end to fanboy flamebait comments, you'd stop posting them yourself and stop referencing them. Just my 2c.
As for the screenies, it looks pretty cool. There is some rather low geometric detail, a lot of the detail is done with normal maps (and the water looks quite plastic, really), but it's still good looking. I still have rather low expectations for this one, given the rather lacklustre reception by gaming journalists after their initial playtesting a few months back, mostly concerning control issues with the SIXAXIS. Don't be surprised if this one doesn't live up to the hype, I say. I'm more looking forward to Heavenly Sword as the first killer app. Bring it on, Ninja Theory.
Why? I don't always if you've ever even read my posts. I just felt it was depressing since these screens were so impressive and they were just lying around in the back room.
I guess no one cares about these screenshots.
can somebody help me find my jaw i droped it looking at the screenshots... i mean wow!! games are looking better and better each year, kudos to developers who made this game. i hope it plays good as it look
but.... if this is the be all beat all 1080p graphics of the PS3, for me I think they just did more harm than good!! I was expecting this game to look soooo good.hopefully these are early builds.but you guys are acting like these are the best graphics you have ever seen.I think there really really nice, but not the jaw dropping gorgeous pics ya'll tyring to make them out to be!!
Picture number 10 dude, picture number 10. http://www.ps3only.nl/scree...
blackmagic -I hear you on picture number 2...but why would you look at the worst one and think its what the game will look like? It's clearly from an earlier build. If you look at the best picture you see the polish they have applied. Picture number 10 includes the same creatures and the same ocean...so shame on you for looking at the worst picture.
Picture number 2 dude, picture number 2. http://www.ps3only.nl/scree...
I'll judge the game when I see it actually being played at the local retail outlet. For me, that is the true indicator.
Pic #2 is stunning as well, if you compare it to any 360 game. The only thing is that the sun is at the other side of the camera. Still can you give me name of any one 360 game that features such gigantic monsters, procedural ocean waves, immense draw distances(32X32 kilometres) in one stage almost twice the size of Oblivion's world, over 1000 enemies on-screen, motion-sensitive, 1080p and all releasing within the first 6 months of conole launch ?! Nah, Right'o Dude !!! HaHaHa !!! 360 is just so past-gen.
Factor five is onto a trail of sucess... in all honesty i dont think MS fanbois would be saying this game looked so so if factor five comitted to making this game on the Xbox 360 exclusively instead of the ps3. lol!!! and they themself no this but haters will always hate... as for me this will defianately be a game i rent for a day and prolly within hours of enjoyment i go out and buy the damn thing lol!!! lair is set to be awesome. and the first true best dragon game ever made. Go Factor 5 Go!!!! this game is being released sometime in spring or summer, you can be sure this will be at GDC07. cant wait
Hm but it is just a dragon game where you fly...you can only get off your dragon for a bit, but it's all on the dragon stuff. I dunno...does look incredible though.
This in-game graphics are very good, but where is the Subsurf/NURBS Factor 5??? Why did you go away from that? That what was I liked best about Lair, and would (probably) be the first game to have that. In fact, I'm alittle dissapointed, where is all the fancy stuff they have shown us from GDC, E3 and all the other events?
What's this...please explain... oh and I watched the interview saying there's loads of stuff and creatures and environments they haven't shown us because they want it to be a suprise...maybe that's where it is...whatever you feel it's missing, cause don't really understand what you mean.
This game is gonna mean some serious competition here for us at MS, darn, there already got a game here it's gonna beat GOW in graphicall comparison, well i could always hand over a cash bribe to get the game on MS own Xbox 360, aww sh1t i forgot it's owned by SONY, darn Sony got one over on me here.
Plus 2 levels would fill a DVD.
Hey Pete, since you're such a good sport, you should get a Lair tatoo. ;)
Looks AWEOSME. I would like to see this in full swing.
Full wing? Full flap? ;)
Looking better. I was really getting sick of that damn bridge.
In fact, I'm working on some 3D now with subsurf.. I'll explain.
I have attached an image with and without subsurf in Blender. The cube to the left has no subsurf so, it's a plain cube. The object underneath is also a cube, but is subsurfed, making/rendering the edges and object smooth, ie in this case a ball. This "cube" is subsurf level 2 of 6 in Blender. The object to the right is also a cube but also has subsurf, just with level 6 making it even more smooth.
I have seen a video from GDC, if I remember correctly, where you could see where they changed a dragon from wireframe and then added faces, then added subsurf, then added textures and voila, a PS3 dragon.
I have also seen some seriuosly superb lightning which I don't see anywhere here.
Do you mean the lighting that went through the dragon’s skin on its wings
I have always said that I was excited for this game these look nice
I wana see them!!!
Also that, but mostly some really neat specular and reflective visuals from the dragon body parts..
it's even more incredicble when you think about the fact that this is a game like grandtheft auto, were you are freeroming
Ive seen the game in action im not realy sure wether ill buy because ive never played a dragon game before, ill try it first.
I would like to see "Look at this game play improvement over the last time you saw the game". Anyone can polish a screenshot.
looks great graphically , really impressive, waiting to see how it plays first though to past any real judgement on the overall game.
It might look pretty but if the gameplay is [email protected]
MS's not worried about anything. MS's fans will get their mid-evil dragon fix elsewhere. http://projectoffset.com/ga... Have you seen the project offset dragon vids, Lair who!?.
Coming to ps3 as well? And I don't think it's about a competition between dragon games! It's about good games.
I was just saying it wasn't certain...hence the question mark. However, I do hear Microsoft may be publishing...the greedy buggers.
Looking at project offset I don't think it's in direct competition anyway, because it is not a dragon game!! unlike lair. Project Offset is a fantasy FPS. So saying the 360 will get something like Lair is wrong. Offset looks very impressive :P
with every new screenshot release of games coming out for ps3.
not optimal for games:
not optimal for games:
not optimal for games:
here's looking at you fanatics:
it's only a bluray player:
don't know what fanatics are seeing when they see these "GAMES" that are coming out that are right there in front of us to see that ps3 IS OPTIMAL for "GAMES".
GDC is going to prove the point i'm trying to make about ps3.it's more than capable.the only thing it's not "optimal" for is lazy ports from 360.here's one last pick for the fanatics:
i'm looking at you fanatics:
sure looks good
Are you ok? maybe you need to get some help. What point are trying to prove with those pics? is it that PS3 can indeed run next-gen games?. It looks pretty good theres still a bland dull PS3 touch to it. DAM GOOD for a PS3 game though.
Shadowgamer nice selection of shots. A bit of a political broadcast though.
power of Green - "It looks pretty good theres still a bland dull PS3 touch to it. DAM GOOD for a PS3 game though." Why stoop so low? That's poor. And he goes on...it's a "rent" game...we shall see in time surely. Ps3 games only focus on graphics... Resistence got good scores because of the gameplay as far as I have read anyway.
It does look great...I'm still sceptical about just flying a dragon everywhere. But I am excited about the sixaxis controls. Watching the interview championing how the sixaxis controls added so much to the game when they got the developers got them...and saying that this game could only be done on the ps3. It was quite satisfying for someone dishing out so much for the ps3.
Those of you who say sixaxis is a fad and has been done before...that may be. But it's never been on every system of one piece of hardware, meaning developers can design it into their games. The maker said he'd been wating for it for two generations, but that it never worked or was too expensive, but now here it is. With rumble it would be sweeet...
I was not talking to you i was telling dude no one missing out. The last news posted on this site about Project offset was about the devs anouncing it was not releasing on the PS3. Read post #14 again. http://media.xbox360.ign.co... hahahahahaha. You don't think it's about competition but #14 sure does, chill out i was messing with him.
Were starting to see eye to eye here xbox360 fans having respect for a PS3 game that looks amazing, just the same way that I have respect for Gears and Microsoft's timing with it. More of what makes LAIR so amazingly good looking...
* Progressive Mesh is a technique using the Cell to allow incredible amounts of detail to be placed upon many objects, both up-close and far away.
-High-Dynamic Range Lighting-
* All of the lights, shadows, reflections, and highlights are in HDR, and are done in real-time by the Cell and RSX. This allows for realistic day-time and night lighting.
-Real-time Dynamic Physics-
* Lair renders physics effects on everything from your dragon to the thousands of enemy soldiers fighting on the ground. All the enemies and allies have their own physics-driven animations, including ragdoll animations.
-Real-time Fluid Dynamics-
* All of the water effects in Lair, such as waves, are run by real-time fluid dynamics on the Cell.
* Parallax shaders are used on almost every single object in Lair, including fire and clouds.
-Real-Time Renderings/Volumetric Effects-
* The fire in Lair is rendered in real-time, and has it's own physics. All of the clouds, smoke effects, and even fog effects are volumetric. Lava, rain, wind, fur, and even more are also rendered in real-time.
There's a round up of what Factor 5 are including in this game...
Obviously there will always be some letting down the rest tho, for the record project offset hasn't been confirmed for eather platform and you will find as many fans on each side claiming it but most likely will be PS3, xbox360 and PC version... if you look at the studios history 2 years ago they were unknown and always had plans to include as many platforms as possible...
hope they can improve the gameplay from earlier builds into an awesome game which uses the sixaxis well.
he is a FANATIC.power of green's first post was "welllll....well 360 has project offset coming!"..............THI S IS NOT ABOUT PROJECT OFFSET!just like you posted grand raid offroad screenshots in the motorstorm threads.
it is about an exclusive game coming out for ps3 that shows that ps3 can get a good looking dragon game,and that it can produce great games overall.that was my points.
but he is not secure in the fact that this game looks good.hopefully it plays as good as it looks.i have no problem with 360 or wii getting great games.not one little problem.i'm actually envious that mass effect is only on 360.but after using and PLAYING ps3 and the games i have and that i'm going to get,i have no problem with my security.but now i have to decide if and when to get 360 if mass effect turns out to be great since i like scifi.and how many warranties do i need for the system.
and for those that can't tell the difference between games and movies.these are movies:
the photos i listed above are games.
By the way everyone take a look at my previous post but here is a link to all the bigger versions of these screens so you can really get a good impression of things: http://www.ultimagame.com/p...
You're so right, dude!
I own a 360 (and last gen xbox,PS2,cube) but when there are more good games out for PS3 i'll buy one. No reason for fanboyism...
Btw. is anyone still laughing about "Peter Moore says, Bill Gates..."? this isn't funny anymore, plz delete them!
No ones saying this title's rubbish visually give it a rest people. I'm sure this game will be at least a "pretty" rent PS3 titles tend to be over hyped and too much focus is put on graphics yet the games score low due to neglect in quality gameplay ect. The search feature works great just to let people know.
#39 SEAN1617, YOU CAN POST LINKS THAT STATE NON FACTS ALL DAY BUT THE TITLE HAS NOT BEEN ANOUNCED AS BEING CONFIRMED! FOR PS3, LOOK IT UP!, GO TO SEARCH AND YOU WILL FIND THAT THERES ONLY ONE CONSOLE IT'S ANOUNCED FOR AND THAT GOES FOR THE REST OF SITES ON THE NET; PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT; IT'S LISTED ON GAME SITES BUT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT HAHAHAHAHA.
YOU'RE TELLING ME NOT BE SUCH A LOSER!? ALL I SAID WAS THAT 360 FANS ARE NOT BEING LEFT OUT IN THE DRAGON ACTION!, YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO TELL ME WHAT GENRE THIS TITLE IS WHEN I PROVIDED THE LINK TO THE SITE LOL, NEVER SAID A DAM THING ABOUT PS3 IN THE FIRST COMMENT THEN I CORRECTED A MEMBER FOR SAYING IT IS COMING OUT FOR PS3 WHEN NO ONES ANOUNCED IT AS COMING OUT FOR THE PS3!
I KNOW ABOUT THIS TITLE I BEEN KEEPIN UP WITH IT JUST AS MUCH AS TOO HUMAN, HUXELY, AND SELECT MANY FROM THE FIRST TIME I HEARD OF THEM. I would say stop being such a loser and so emotional to you. lates. On the port note PS3 may very well get a port as long as it's in that order i'm fine with it, that way i know i'm getting my money's worth due to the 360 being able to handle more advanced graphics.
JUST LIKE GEARS OF WAR!!. Come on people, I have Gears and its graphycally amazing but not perfct. NOBODY talked about this game framerate drops problems, textures that get N64 blurry up close, textures that dissapeared and then apearred. No. No one points that. Its really funny that the same people who believe that Gears of War is an innovative game are saying that LAIR is just a graphical showcase. NO, REALLY?. LOL. Im tired of 360 fanatics that make any newspost in their favor. They blamed RESISTANCE, yet they havent played. They blame everything PS3 related. But some faulty bad 360 games get praised by them. FANATICS...
But you got to give credit where credit is due, and this is one title that I wish was coming to the 360..........
just wait till a good dragon game comes out.
like panzer dragoon orta, now that would interest me a lot.
stop being such a loser okay, look http://media.ps3.ign.com/me... oh no look it's project offset on the ps3
it's and fps okay it's not a dragon game, and so far it's slated for both, they are still looking for a publisher and EA might pick up the tab, so hmm have you played lair yet? no no one has so just shut up were talking about how it looks right now get that,or are you too dumb to see that we are just judging the graphics, okay please tell me a way we can tell how the game is going to play through pictures?, so honestly just shut up and stop wasting peoples time, and please speaking of the 1st games that came out on the 360, there were a ton of ports, gun, tonyhawk, i could of made my judments on the 360 based on these games,which were ports of xbox1 games,then in march Doa came out, then freaking Oblivion some months later, and now finaly a game that makes it worth having a 360 came out GoW, so don't act like there wasn't a game drought on the 360 either or all the early games where so great i mean pdz give me a break. The games are coming, oh and i could not careless for bubbles like the rest of you so go ahead have a field day you Nazi bastard telling me what i should like and why.=D laters
and given a swift kick in the face before they spread fanboy filth:
games like lair show potential.poooo----teeeeeeeeee ennnn------tialllllllll.
can i get a demo please.i don't want to see any one of you turkeys bad mouthing a potentially good game:
wow a chick fighting in a closed arena, I haven't seen any free roaming gameplay from HS, and until I do the graphics wont impress me, anyone can make arena fighting look good.
Anyone else here suspect this game might well blow? I mean gameplay wise.
I don't know why but I cant see it being 'great' to play.
played any of Factor 5's games. They all play really well. Especially the flying games, ie star wars on GC. I have high hope for this one. We will see when it finally lands.
finally!!!!!! evidence of what the ps3 is capable of doing! these shots look gorgeous. i want this game so bad
i don't get it, the water is very nice but the models are very poor IMO. That's not because it's coming out on the PS3 but because i think that it genuinly doesn't look good graphically. I though pic 10 was really disappointing, but i think UT3 looks disappointing though. Just my 2 pence
The highlight of the day are the posts saying these screenshots were 'doctored up'. The build these photos were taken from is well over a month old, and they still have until May before release. Expect the visuals to improve even more. Hopefully the gameplay delivers as well.
Am I the only one on here who doesnt get this one bit.
Yeah the screenshots look great but come on, wheres the pic you play? All the shots dont look like in game to me. Its like the story CGI more like.
Well perhaps its me but theres not one screenshot there that looks like playable footage.
You just watch, yes itll prob be a well good game but i bet the ingame playable graphics wont look alot better than anything else out there.
just from diffrent angles, if you seen it played last e3, you can see these have been improoved little since i saw the game in motion last.
not even close.
these screens look too lame to be cgi.
woo hoo the water looks awesome!?....?
ok.... is this game about water?
the characters look as detailed as oblivion characters.
the dragons do look cool.
but not nearly polished enough to get exited about.
unless you love dragons.
then i guess i understand your enthusiasm.
You can read about a "RAIN ENGINE" the game will have at ign.com in a 5-page interview. The dragons are made to react to rain, and as soon as it rains, their skin appears all glossy and shining, almost thwarting CGI quality. If they didn't want to include raain, they would've made dragons shining from default, but it is far better to have a model impress you by taking on various out-looks. This game absolutely delivers and is a physics masterpiece...check it out at wikipedia !!!
After watchimg these latest images from the game, I'm fully convinced 2nd-gen development has already been started for the PS3. Anyone who doesn't believe that now is a m0r0n. Resistance was breath-taking so indeed Ratchet 5 will blow the heads off. Its really difficult to find one game for 360 besides 'gears' to consider it a true next-gen machine, and even that came after a whole year. But if I go for it, PS3 has Resistance, MotorStorm, VF5, new and improved Oblivion and in May, the Lair.......
5 killer-apps people, 5 master-pieces of true next-gen beauty and all within the first 6 months of PS3 launched.
Sony rocks !!! They have done it again. Let the pathetic and racist critics enjoy viva pinata if they like keep playing 360 considering it a western pride Hah !
I cant believe, all this story is doing is showing some new (gorgeous) screens of an anticipated upcoming title and people still find a reason to complain.
Ewww, if it looks that good it must play like crap. Yeah, good reasoning because Factor 5 never got good graphics and good gameplay out of a console have they? Oh wait.........yeah scratch that.
Seriously, why do people display such defensive behaviour at the slightest bit of good PS3 news. I could understand if everyone here was a 7 year old but I'm asumming there are alot of adults here too or at least teenagers. Why is everyone so damn petty? Dudes, even if your worst fears are realised and PS3 does dominate this generation and sell another 100 million consoles, Xbox is still gonna be around at least a good 5 years or more. Everyone is going to get what they want out of gaming unless you want a console to die because I cant see that happening.
PS. Lair looks, really, really nice and it looks fun too.
That is some impressive.........CGI. let's see the in-game footage, then you can boast
Ummmm, does someone want to tell him ^^^^or should I?
Yeah Dude, that is in game footage. Hope you dont take it too badly.
Actually you just paid the game a real complement, though I'm not sure that was you intention. ;)
Those dragons look real!
and I want a demo!!! I know, it looks excellent, but i'll still probably rent it before I buy it. I'm just not completely sold on what i've read about he actual game. Again, though, it looks stunning.