Spending a large portion on 2008 sitting in the gutter after its inital release, maybe Rockstar where right in saying they're confident GTA IV can reach 10 million units. Play.com is the Uks biggest online retailer for consumer electronics...
HAZE MAKING A COMEBACK WOOT LOOOOOOL
hmm i pretty sure this data is false
oh yeah its false a $20 if play has it at 20 ...but im gona buy haze soon for $20 shot new thats a bagain for me i can play it when i move out and have something to do when i get home from work
you've made my day :) waw aint that good anyway
i think its becuase gamers dont want free radical to die.
Nope, it's because it's 9.99 on Play.com
See for yourself. http://www.play.com/Games/G...
Haze just goes to prove how much you ps3 fans love shovelware.
No, Haze proves that for £10 - you can't go wrong.
I would not give a dollar for that POS yet alone ever play it again. It is horrible on every front and has not one redeeming factor.
Read the article next time. Haze is beating COD:WaW ON PC ONLY. It's not beating COD:WaW 360 or PS3.
Haze was just discontinued...and the price was probably dropped to get it off shelves...its available in the US at Target for under $20 new...at leat my local target... @The Dude...PS3 fans love shovelware?...Wasn't Too Human the first game to knock GTAIV off the top of the 360's sales charts last year?...over 1 million people bought that floater... Even if Haze sells completely out...that will put the grand total of people owning most likely under what Too Human sold in 1 day...gtfo
I wouldn't say Haze is "shovelware", it took longer than a week to produce and had some level of effort put into it, but it does go to show. People will buy any piece of crap, as long as it's cheap.
Everything has its price point where people will think its worth it...even Haze.
Everything has its price point where people will think its worth it. At $199, you can't possibly go wrong... or can you? At least Haze won't brick your console. <_<
Hey dude... see the list of top sellers at PLAY.com.... LBP and GTA4(PS3) are on top respectively at 1 and 2 position .... HAZE at 24 not at 25. KILLZONE 2 at top on pre-order list. PLAYSTATION 3 ..... This is living
Is this really news? i mean common really...
Damn, I clicked that piece-o-s*** article and gave it a hit. That was pathetic. Haze probably was on clearance or something. This was a useless article. Well, I wouldn't say completely useless- it did generate a hit, and that's all anyone cares about these days anymore, you know?
Haze IS discontinued...Free Radical went under (sucks that Haze was their last game too...the guys that started out in shooters with Goleneye, then Timesplitters, released...Haze...then folded)...and the game has been discounted worldwide accordingly...there was an article about it last week...
Of course, at a discounted price point, crap would sell... just like some other thing that is at a lower price point. =p
Haze was a good game. There, I said it. Positives: No loading screens (completely seamless from start to finish), smooth frame-rate, good story, good controls, some unique factors like slide-tackles and disarming enemies, the nectar gameplay quirks are pretty interesting and can add some fun to it all, some very good voice acting. Negatives: Mediocre graphics, some very annoying voice acting, some bland level designs. Overall, I'd give it a "Shouldn't have been so harshly criticized, and now I'm sad for Free Radical's demise."
I'm going to disagree however I did have fun with Haze. There were fun parts just like there were in Too Human, still bad games however.
I was never hyped by lair and haze. Judging from the gameplay videos I knew these two are going to be bad.
Lair was awsome, if it just wasn't rushed, and had more levels, and people claiming it sucked due to just using six axis as the flight controls pre patch...i say learn the controls, you'll enjoy it greatly.
It was never broken, I'll say that time and again. The only big problem it had was the instructions on how to control your dragon was not detailed, so it left many people who couldn't figure it out on the outs with that game. At first I had a problem with the 180 and dash, but a friend named Zafro taught me how to do it, and I got all golds before the patch came out, plus I wrote a tutorial on it: http://boardsus.playstation... I am also in the top 100 worldwide, and the top 25 in the US in that game.
I still own my copy of both Haze and Lair .. Haze as was mentioned IMO is a very solid game , Hype was what made this game terrible to the public's eye not the game itself... as for Lair I was defending this game from day one other than repetitive missions and a bad targeting systems..and a few difficult to do 180 turns..it was a good game.
I think Haze wasn't a bad game. It is in fact the only (console?) game available to date which does seamless 4 player co-op multiplayer with drop-in drop-out. You just jump in and help someone out. Adds some fun factor. I also think the visuals weren't that bad either. Could have been more, though. But for 10 bucks I think its easily worth it.
hm, i think if Lair's controls need a tutorial like this then there must be something wrong. btw. i played Lair and i had no problems to control the dragon .. but the game svcked.
Haze was easily the worst game I played this gen, and I've played a lot of games. Heck is was one of the worst games I've played for its time even.
Lair was the biggest failure review wise I have ever read... I am not saying that it got the worst reviews...I am saying that it was criticized for ALL the wrong reasons...just so happened that it was just as bad of a game as what most were saying...but that they were saying it was bad for the wrong reasons... it was the controls that nearly every reviewer jumped on for it sucking...which could not have been further from the truth imo...for me...the controls were the ONLY thing that kept it even slightly interesting for 20 minutes...other than that, sound and visually...the game was actually pretty good...while pushing 1080p at 60fps over any AA might have been more of a marketing move than anything...the game still looked impressive at times... but what made Lair suck?...EVERYTHING else...absolutely horrible level/objective design...'go fly over here and spam fireballs that this thing'...'go protect this dragon and spam fireballs at everything'...'go land by that trebuchet and spam fireballs at ground troops'...etc...with ridiculous frat boys on all the other dragons constantly yelling at you in cheesy fashion...it was awful... combat was equally retarded...the scale of everything was simply too big for them to try any up close combat...spitting fireballs at other dragons was simply ridiculous...as you just locked onto them and fired as many as possible until you couldn't lock on anymore (which I guess means you killed it or something)...not to mention...the mounting other dragons and claw/scratch/bite/firebreathe mechanic was funnier than any other thing in gaming...arguably ever... the story was equally stomach churning...with the age old 'am I on the good side or not' question brought up, laced with horrendous writing...it was terrible...played out like C movie writing with blockbuster visuals budgets...it was like Uwe Boll's movie version of Lair was available in the game box... but reviewers rarely touched on that stuff...they usually said everything was pretty decent...but that the controls broke the overall game...wrong imo...the controls actually kept it from getting a 2/10 for me...they actually worked...if anyone spent more than 2 minutes with the game...or actually played it...they would see how retarded the reviews were...even if they did end up giving the game a fair score... and to say Haze or Lair was the worst game you ever played this gen...you simply haven't tried all the demos that XBL and the PSN get sometimes...go download Conflict: Denied Ops or Dynasty Warriors: Gundam...both of those games are perfect examples of when a developer does not get a single thing correct...at least lair and Haze did one or two things correctly...
I liked Lair. Bought it a few months ago. I wish it was a free roam kind of game or at least somewhat like PS2's Drakkan. It would be nice explore the world to fight and kill huge monster like that flying lobster/ crawfish/ shrimp thing (that mission was SO random). Lighting on Lair sucked balls though... wish they fixed it more. Remember the raid mission with all those spotlights? Yeah, but to see the game through the end was pretty worth it.
"<GTA:4 Image here> Spending a large portion on 2008 sitting in the gutter after its inital release, maybe Rockstar where right in saying they’re confident GTA IV can reach 10 million units. Play.com is the Uks biggest online retailer for consumer electronics, and currently today the top two games sellers are Grand Thaft Auto IV for the Xbox 360 and PS3 in first and second respectabley. And the PS3 ‘halo killer’ turned flop Haze sits at 25, putting it ahead of Brain Training, Soul Calibur IV, Tom Clancys EndWar, Call of Duty: WaW on PC, Left 4 Dead PC and Far Cry 2 for the Xbox 360." There ya have it. The whole article. -_-
GTA4 I can understand since some people will want to rebuy it knowing the first of the DLC episodes are FINALLY coming out (or buying it for the first time). But HAZE?! Am I DREAMING? Didn't people say that that game sucked ass? What am I missing on that one?
How about the TRUTH? HAZE only outsold the PC VERSION of COD:WAW...which is sad, considering PC games sell the least of all platforms.
It's £10. Hell, I might even pick it up for a tenner.
I played Haze a bit about a month ago and although it was blurry as f!ck, the game felt exceptional regards to it's weapons and atmosphere Didn't unfortunately play it for very long to know if it was entirely great as a game but i'd have bought it in a second if also released on 360 This game certainly shows how PS3 tends to be less sharp than the 360(though clearly PS3 has raw performance in other ares) but Haze's use of the unreal engine was really what made the graphics so cloudy i guess as they were also quite blurred on Bioshock Shame i'll never play this
Free Radical used an inhouse developed engine for Haze, not the UE.
yeah dude...you have zero clue what you are talking about... Haze used a proprietary engine...not UE3...the game also ran in like 545p...it did nothing to illustrate how 'ps3 games are usually less sharp than the 360'...as that is rarely true...it happens a lot with lesser developers, with small budgets...but Haze still would have looked like butt water even if it was on the 360...probably even on a PC with a competitive resolution... Haze and MGS4 released in the same window...one was the worst looking exclusives so far this gen...and one still stands as the best looking console game ever made so far...which was also only on the Ps3...and is only set to be dethroned by another certain PS3 title...
GTA4 is a good game , face it people , if it was lame nobody would be buying it at this point.
If you want to believe that sure, go ahead. It IS a good game. Is it the game we all thought it would be? Not even close.
we? Me and my buds were merely expeting gta3+better graphics. Gta4 is Gta3 with better graphics? ergo, it lived up to my expectations.
Indeed, i think some of why gta4 gets dissed is down to fans expecting absurdly realistic things from this gen - i'm guessing a lot of gta fans expected it to be practically real and that's a little unfair Never been a fan myself but i can still see the attraction The new expansions are quite the suprise in that they seem like entire games and these will appeal to real gta fans - those of course that own a 360 because gta is actually rather sh!t if you don't
you got it a little wrong. me, being a true GTA fan i think i can speak for other GTA fans when i say we wanted FUN side missions, at least ALL the vehicles in san andreas (why leave some out?) at least one special weapon (vice city had a mini gun and chainsaw, san andreas had a flamethrower + mini gun) im sure i missed something but here is what im wanting
take that Too Human.
the article fails to mention why haze is selling so high suddenly... all shops on the uk seem to have dropped the price of haze to £10 to get rid of copies. So obv for a tenner ppl are giving it a go. for me though £10 is £10 too much to play that game if the demo was anything to go off and yeh gta will be back ontop because some poeple may have held out to get it cheaper/the dlc is nearly out. even ps3 owners may get it because they hear about dlc not realising its exclusive to the 360. had a guy the other day on a forum asking when the ps3 was getting the lost and the damned
"And the PS3 ‘halo killer’" *rolls eyes*
Wow never played Haze, heard it was a bad game, but surprised it outselling COD:WAW
Haze is'nt a bad game, its just average to say at least, Not bad for bargain basement buy.
i will probly pick up haze when i get killzone2, just for a play through, why not for £5 pre-owned
Can PS3 have one exclusive shooter without some idiot calling it a halokiller? I rekon that hurts the game as much as any of its actual flaws. And yes the game is decent. If you knew nothing about it and played it fresh, you'd probably give it a 7 to 8.
HAHA Haze lol. No seriously HAZE was a really good game all it needed was trophies and in game soundtracks. Never trust a 3rd party to do a good FPS exclusive for you in the 7th generation especially if you're name is Ubisoft :)
that PS3 GTA IV is ahead of the Xbox 360 version, maybe it will send Rockstar a message.
Other way round douche
It shows GTA IV PS3 at no.1 for me, and XB360 GTA IV no.2, so how does that make me a douche :p
The drop of the price of haze to clear out stocks would have done nothing to increase the sales...as soon as games are on a ship heading to our country, thats a sale occording to sony and microsoft.. the only reason i could think of it being quite high is that some poeple got dragged into the hype at the begin and bought before it was to late..just like me :(
...people are saying the reason HAZE is outselling CoD, WaW is because of the price, not because it has any redeeming factors. There are a number of people who played the game and said they liked it, but that is still invalid. Why isn't that logic used to understand the positions of the consoles this gen instead of saying one is "ZOMG" better than the others? Don't get me wrong, I do understand that HAZE wouldn't be outselling anything if the game wasn't cheap, but I also understand that I wouldn't buy the Wii @ $499 either.
the reason your reasoning doesn't work out, is b/c the Wii is a casual machine. its something for EVERYONE to enjoy. Everyone meaning RICH, POOR, YOUNG, OLD etc. If you make a 499$ Wii, then POOR kids couldn't afford one. But the RICH and AVID GAMERS, wouldnt buy it because the graphics arent out of this world, and b/c it doesn't have blu-ray OR dvd, and it doesn't have a rich online gameplay experience. Nintendo knows what they are doing. They believe games are fun. And FUN is something everyone should have in their lives. They priced their console accordingly, to make sure EVERYONE has this chance.
and not everyone enjoys the Wii's antiquated hardware. Just like everything about HAZE isn't great, and not everyone will overlook HAZE'S flaws and glitches to enjoy the game. And as far as Nintendo "knowing what they are doing"; if they knew what they were doing, they wouldn't have had to apologize for such a piss-poor E3 last year. They wouldn't have to bring out a newer Wiimote and other peripherals to counter the Wii's lack of... everything. And they didn't 'price their hardware accordingly', The Wii wouldn't survive on the market at $499. The Wii is rightfully cheap because that and Nintendo games are its only selling point. I can't think of one non-Nintendo game anyone's clamoring about on the Wii myself; not to say there isn't one, but it sure isn't being talked about if there is one.
you obviously went to school, and learned to read. but what you didn't learn is COMPREHENSION(the ability to UNDERSTAND what your READING). I suggest reading what I wrote over again.....then reading your response to it. "Wii isn't fun and not everyone enjoys the Wii's antiquated hardware. " --not everyone? i think the sales charts suggest otherwise my friend. remember they wanted GAMERS period. from the 360 trash talkers, to the ps3 whiners, to your grandma and grandpa. EVERYONE. "Just like everything about HAZE isn't great, and not everyone will overlook HAZE'S flaws and glitches to enjoy the game." ---you're right, HAZE ISN'T GREAT. but the people will overlook that at the price of $9.99, and those who DO enjoy the game, will relish in the fact that they just got a great deal on the price. "And as far as Nintendo "knowing what they are doing"; if they knew what they were doing, they wouldn't have had to apologize for such a piss-poor E3 last year. They wouldn't have to bring out a newer Wiimote and other peripherals to counter the Wii's lack of... everything" ---you're basing the value of the Wii on E3? Nobody had a good E3. E3 2008 sucked. New peripherals? Yeah, it happens. Kinda like how the PS3 JUST GOT A CHAT PAD. Or chat for that matter. Lol. The Wii is a console based on interactivity, and if newer peripherals provide MORE/BETTER interactivity, how is this a bad thing? And if you were reading my comment, you'd see where i already stated the Wii was lacking a few things: great online experience, bluray**ring a bell? "And they didn't 'price their hardware accordingly', The Wii wouldn't survive on the market at $499. The Wii is rightfully cheap because that and Nintendo games are its only selling point." ---its still priced accordingly. the PS3 has DECENT(still not great) AND FREE ONLINE, BLURAY, HD GRAPHICS, etc. etc. and it just started to really sell consoles in 2008. And even then, its mile behind the Wii. Think about it....all those great things, and yet its behind....hmm....why do you think that is? Is it maybe b/c not EVERYONE can afford it? Keyword kid, EVERYONE. So although that doesn't mean everyone WILL buy it, it just means that everyone CAN buy it. Like I said, you need to work on your comprehension skills. :)
Obviously Community college isn't all what it's cracked up to be, even for community college. I'll go through *some* of your points, as you're confused on what an opinion is versus what a fact is. Let's give an example, shall we? ---Your comment (opinion): ---not everyone? i think the sales charts suggest otherwise my friend. remember they wanted GAMERS period. from the 360 trash talkers, to the ps3 whiners, to your grandma and grandpa. EVERYONE. My answer (based on fact) Game sales charts? Hmmm, unless you're confused, I will address that erroneous statement with a simple article titled "NY Times looks at Wii's software sales problem"... most specifically the statement "On average, Wii owners only buy 3.7 games a year, compared to 4.7 and 4.6 for the Xbox 360 and PS3 respectively. "These new gamers are content with the games they have, often going no further than the Wii Sports game that comes with the machine," the Times author states. "They don't buy new games with the fervor of a traditional gamer who is constantly seeking new stimulation."" http://www.joystiq.com/2008... See how that worked? A fact is based upon tangible data; All because you can type words doesn't mean what you typed is true. The whole point of that, by the way, is to also show that since software sales are DOWN on the Wii, not everyone is enjoying their purchase like they initially thought they would. The Wii can spout all of their numbers in terms of total sales, which is impressive, but the average per console is weak, and that is what 3rd party developers look at. Just like how Nintendo tried to say that 3rd party developers are selling just as well as the 360 and PS3, until Microsoft blew them out of the water with the NPD data: http://www.gamesindustry.bi... Really, it ends there, because that's the only point I need to prove; so I'll just glean on the rest of the "points" you made, since I'm waiting for boiling water, this shouldn't take long to write. ---you're right, HAZE ISN'T GREAT. but the people will overlook that at the price of $9.99, and those who DO enjoy the game, will relish in the fact that they just got a great deal on the price. Which is why I compared HAZE to the Wii. The Wii isn't great. The Wii is inferior compared with the 360 and PS3 in all areas and lacks an online presence, even compared to the Dreamcast; heck, even the Dreamcast has a DVD player and online that matches the Wii. Next, all because Nintendo "knows fun" doesn't mean that they have a lock on fun games, and even if they did it doesn't detract from the fact that many people who bought a Wii aren't playing it like they used to. ---you're basing the value of the Wii on E3? No, I'm saying "And as far as Nintendo "knowing what they are doing"; if they knew what they were doing, they wouldn't have had to apologize for such a piss-poor E3 last year. They wouldn't have to bring out a newer Wiimote and other peripherals to counter the Wii's lack of... everything". *Ahem* that's reading comprehension, bub; understanding what you read. ---its still priced accordingly. That's you not following your own point; you're acting like Nintendo had a choice in the matter of pricing when you said "If you make a 499$ Wii, then POOR kids couldn't afford one". Nintendo didn't price their console with the concerns of the poor, they priced it because it would NOT sell at $499; THAT was my point, the rest of your comment was not worth addressing. All because you got an avatar of some jerkoff in a turtleneck in some smarmy pose doesn't mean your points will magically make sense. :)
wow. after skimming thru you're wall of text(meaningless tex, mind you), its apparent that you're probably a 15yr old with a thesaurus. :) all your "facts" didn't support either argument--- which wouldnt make your argument valid. i didn't base my opinions on "facts" either, i based it on common sense. i have grown tired of this back and forth bickering. and the avatar? its joey greco. that was the point. not only are you young and naive , but you have no sense of humor either. good luck in the real world kid, hope it doesn't eat you alive. out of bubbles, but you can always PM a response. :)
That's all that needs to be said. You can't back your points with a single link to support your "common sense", so you try to divert that point by posting anything except facts to support your simple, childish fanboy fits. I posted a few links to support my points, none of which you never addressed, because any facts that exist will only support me. I have a sense of humor, but something has to be funny, which you are not on any adult level. You act like everyone watches hours of trash like you do. You probably were on the Chuck Norris bandwagon before your Joey fetish (and still probably are). How's Jerry Springer going for you? See anyone you know? "wow. after skimming thru you're wall of text(meaningless tex, mind you), its apparent that you're probably a 15yr old with a thesaurus" After skimming "thru" yet another senseless yammering of yours, it's apparent you're a 13 year-old that doesn't know how to use spell-check. I don't need a thesaurus, I have an education; a college education, thank you. A lack of formal education is probably why you can't back up anything you say with actual facts, but thinks it's a sin that someone may not watch hours of pointless television to know a loser of a show about other losers. Still my favorite brainfart that you tried your very best to address: ["Wii isn't fun and not everyone enjoys the Wii's antiquated hardware. " --not everyone? i think the sales charts suggest otherwise my friend."] Which backed-up my original point: if the Wii was so fun, people would be buying more software, but after Wii sports and Wii fit worn it's welcome, it sits in the corner, failing. Yeah, the hardware sold plenty, but people don't play hardware, they play software off of the hardware. Case closed.
Hells yeah man. Who DOESN'T have a spare 9.99 lying around? The game was a flop, but i think this is a great way for Free Radical to turn up the sales, grab some quick cash, and focus on their next flop...um...i mean uh, next great game.
gta4 was spotted in the bargain bin for 9.99 and a free latte .. saints row 2 is way funner than gta4 you actually get to create your character instead of being forced to play a wanabie black guy or a bannana boat russian ... get a clue rockstar ... cod waw isnt all that its another treyack garbage time ww2 game if you havent learned from cod3 alllready ... why the hell cant i choose which country i want to be on multiplayer get a clue treyack...
are you serious? he's eastern european for goodnees sake! i can tell you are a immature gamer using words like "funner" and "get a clue"...GTA4 took a step into the "mature" world of gaming, i mean im sure you read the reviews and previews, what did you expect?
Haze is better than too human
eeehm ... no!
i'm playing GTAIV again and it's just sooo good. can't wait for the dlc