A recent flurry of three red-ring posts have appeared in The Land of the Rising Sun. It seems that consoles over a year-old are konking out in noticeable numbers.
Should we be surprised? Didn't like.. the same thing happen here in America.. or something to that effect. Either way, I grow sick and tired of Microsoft's lack of concern for their product dying in so many numbers. How much longer till even die-hard 360 fans consider defecting to be Wii/Ps3 fans? I think we're seeing the last steps of what could have been a great console, unless Microsoft picks up the effort. The wii/Ps3 looks better everyday... even if Microsoft DOES have Halo 3, and Shadowrun, whats the use of waiting if my system is going to eventually crap out? Least with the Ps3, I'll be able to PLAY games without the worry of every time I load a disc, the system may go kaplook.
i just defected to PS3. I hated xbox 360 console since i first bought it. It is a useless, noisy, crashing and crap piece of machine. it is even worst than precessor xbox. I have been loyal to sony since PS1. I had no problem with PS1 and PS2. So far i heard that there are no news about PS3's faults, im more likely to suffer no problem. I look forward to own one when it comes out here in UK. PS3 is certainly a sexiest, cool looking console out of 3 next gens. Unlike XBOX360, it also has built in Blu Ray player too. Sony is a genius with making games. Shadow of the Colossus was the best game i ever played on PS2 and am looking forward to its sequel on PS3. I've seen the home page of PS3 and it is so awesome. Those moving waves on the background. Do you get that on Xbox 360? No, it is just plain with colors on each pages. What the hell is that? Before i sold my xbox 360, my background was a picture of PS3 console. This kept me in company. Only 4 weeks left before PS3 dominates EU. ;)
Panix I don't believe you have ever owned a 360. "If Final Fantasy 7 would be released on PS3, PS3 would be outselling the other two consoles. Everybody loves FFVII" That was your first post. Constantly all posts Playstation all over, never spoke once about the 360. In your gamertag you say sold. Well if you do, supply your old (test month) gamertag, doesn't matter anymore to you I guess because you ain't playing that anymore. I bet you're a Sony fanboy trying to act like a switcher, which you are in my eyes obviously not. You hated the 360 since the first day you've bought it... Right... Well if you REALLY do, you'll be hating the PS3 even more from day one having only one good, not even AAA great, just good game. Enjoy it. Bet you've never, ever played PGR3, Gears of War, GRAW 1, COD3, Oblivion, FNR3, Rainbow Six or any game, and not over Live either. I call you out on being a total FAKE
I recently got rid of my Xbox 360 (die on me). while I believe it has a great line up of games, going thru two xbox 360 over no apparent reason pissed me off. I really got tired of the hassle so now I only have my PS3 and so far I have had no problems with it whatsoever. So anybody interested in buying some xbox 360 games give me a holla.
You make yourself look like an incredible fool Is your logic literally: -If they claim to have a 360 and they don't like it, then they don't have a 360- Not everyone sleeps with their console like you mart
my logic is, if you buy something, and you can't stand it as soon as you get it, why keep it? i'm sure he could have found somebody to sell it to, if not just trade it in towards a PS3.
Probably so, the only reason I'm keeping with the 360, for now, is for ShadowRun and Halo 3, it's not that I don't like Playstation, it's just Sony I don't like all that much, plus the lack of titles which interest me... not to say they're not good or anything, but I'm a FPS, which the Ps3 I feel shall lack in. Plus a 600$ purchase is NOT something I'm in an ability to pull at this moment.. Though I do see myself owning one and a Wii as well..
it is your decision not mine. im just giving you my view. Of course there will be a lack of games for PS3 but what about xbox 360? There was a total lack of games when it launched. I didnt moan about xbox 360's problem then and i certainly wouldnt moan at PS3. Why can't these kiddies be patient? Just play PS1/PS2 games on PS3 while you wait. There are still great games for PS1/PS2. More titles are on their way to PS3 and Sony will gradually regain their throne.
They need to make use of the warranty. The 360 dose seem to have issues with units bricking. I have has 3 friends out of 20 who had to exchange. I'm lucky cause I have had no issues at all. But I just bought an extended warranty just incase.
And here we have it folks. Built to Last vs. Built to Sell. they should of concerned themselves more with their hardware instead of trying to get a 1 year jump on Sony. It appears 2 consoles did that in this race. People preach customer loyalty and Sony craps on its fans. Well atleast their is little to no chance of this $600 purchase bricking on me.(knocks on wood. No one cared about hardware they just wanted to be out the gate and in larger quantity. Well now its catching up to people in the worst way. 360's are dying and Wii is getting boring. What does that leave? Dont worry thought atleast Microsoft is going to rebuild the xbox360 paint it black and release it again in april for a slightly higher price. Because im sure it will be built better this time.
should be ashamed!! you talk about MS lack of doing something about there crapping out systems, well what about extending the warrenty for a year!! what about refunding the first people WHO PAID to get there xboxs fixed there money!! come on guys sony aint clean either!! because if they was there would have NEVER been a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT on them for there dvd drives crapping out on the Ps2!!
The point is most PS fan boys are snobs. They think the PS brand is steak and the Xbox brand is leather. And the truth of the matter is the PS3 even though it has a lower failure rate is has a higher dissatisfaction rate. The 3 people I know who had a defective 360 just got it exchanged. There are too many awesome games that are available and soon to come to just jump ship to the PS3. Most of the PS3 games that are coming out do not even have real release dates. It is too big of a gamble to spend $600.00 and not be sure what game will be out and how they will turn out in the end.
It's funny how some of you jealous haters try and knock the 360 because you don't like the fact that it's doing better than the PS3! Consoles break and I bet you anything that PS3 will end up having more problems than the 360 over time! My 360 bricked on me and they sent me a new one after a year for free which wasn't a terrible experience! I kind of wanted a PS3 but will pass because 360 has the games this time around and is making PS3 look very unappealing even with the bricking issues!
How much you selling for? I have 2 nephews who could use a 360.
I don't have the system anymore I was lucky enough to be able to take it back to walmart (they never check to see if it was working). But I do have a few games I'm trying to sell, let me know if you're interested.
Sorry to hear about your system, I too had problems with my 360 breaking last week but I had no choice but to buy another one. Now I have a core system that I've put my Harddrive from my original 360 on. I never notice until now that the core has a white drive unlike the chrome of my original system. This time around I made sure that I extended the Warranty for two years with MS. Hopefully this won't happen again to me.
Through the last 5 years i must off bought about 5 ps2s due to faulty components and dvd drives, ps2 sucks its no wonder they sold so many lol,so to start bad mouthing 360 for a few faulty consoles is pathetic,ive had mine since launch and its never give me any problems.The 360 is the best pound for pound gaming console ever build, the games are stunning and its wiping the floor with the ps3,ive spend more money on games for the 360 in the first year than i did in 3 years on the ps2 that just tells it all,am a gamer first and foremost and the XBOX 360 has provided me with the most amazing gaming inexperiences so far.Xbox live downloadable content HD movies on demand truly stunning games you just cant get any better than this folks,you guys know it makes sense, if your a gamer you have to agree if not your a stupid fanboy plain and simple, at the end of the day its the games and content that matters and the 360 HAS IT ALL end of story
When I first got my xbox 360 i did have it crash a not unreasonable amount of times. Maybe 1-2 times a week of play. However as I started to play more this increased. When I contacted Microsoft (UK) they basically told me my console was working and occassional crashes can happen due to software not hardware! Now I know games hardware, and this was definately the hardware not sofware. So I put it on ebay whilst it was still working. Sold it to some poor git- let him deal with it! And I will be getting the new 120GB xbox 360 that comes in Playstation black ;) when its released as this is likely to have the issues sorted out. I was gonna say that reliablity is not really a PR problem for microsoft because we (as in gamers) know about the 360 problems because we visit game webpages/forums. However the issue is beginning to creep into the mainstream media. In the UK the issue of xbox breakdowns was raised on BBC1s Watchdog programme which has massive viewing numbers amongst a broad spectrum of viewers. So now the problem is 'out there.' Bring on the fixed-up x360
The scary thing about buying a console thats unreliable is not the price of the console. Its the thousands of dollars (or pounds, or pesos) in games you buy for it. If you had one or two and the machine dies its no big deal, you can switch easily if you wish. But if you have 20 games for a console and it breaks out of warranty your going to be pretty much forced into getting a new one. M$ has already got some big hills to climb in Japan and they aren't going to like this much coming from an American company. It will just reinforced their whole "Our stuff is better" attitude. This is just my opinion, I'm not Japanese so I dont really know how they think but I think Bill might have to open his big wallet again like he did in the states with the 1 year warranty.
There probably was a few fault cases of PS2's going. But the majority of them worked for a long time. I dont remember there being any news reports of faulty PS2's within the first year of its life cycle. I heard you random story here and their but nothing like I have heard about these bricking Xbox's. This obviously is a much bigger deal than a couple fried PS2's. Since some people think their one encounter means everything then I must speak up and say I purhcased my PS2 back in October of 2002 and it worked. I put away my big model PS2 back in november 2005 when I purchased a slimeline PS2. I had the SlimeLine PS2 installed in an SUV I purchased and recently took my big model PS2 out of the attic so i can play the God Of War 2 demo with rumble and it still works fine. So PS2 is not the topic here. The article is about dying XBOX360's. If PS2's dying was such an issue. They wouldnt be selling like they are to date. However watch how this negative news about bricking 360's is greatly going to affect sales if it isnt fixed immediatley.
when we got all of the slimlines back that stopped working after 2-4 hours when they first released it. and do you honestly believe that the sony fans on this site are actually going to admit to having problems any more than 360 owners? you don't hear it as much because there are less in homes,plus the ones still being returned because they couldn't flip them on ebay. when has anything electronic come out without any problems? it happens. it's electronics. and seeing the way some people take care of their stuff when they come in to trade, i wonder what % is consumer fault. i understand most people just look at the result, and not the reason. in that sense, it does look bad. however, just like you say (not you specifically) that the casual consumer doesn't go to websites and look up stuff like we do, the casual consumer doesn't hear about the defects like we do either. it's not like it's on the news every day. i have 2 launch units without a problem. i have 2 friends that had theirs replaced, and about 9 or so other friends that haven't.
in portugal we have 2 years of warranty... :D in all te products entering here... I think it's like most europe... so... it's a non issue here... :D
Even though the 360s for sale now are the new and improved version with a longer warranty, this doesn't fare well with the fragile Japanese trust in US built electronic products. Even when the issue has been fixed, people still tend to remember the negatives. It's also weird how bad news spread like wildfire, yet the news about the remedy or fix do not carry the same passionate drive to get the word out.
MS's first batch of 360 consoles are unreliable. Anyone denying that at this point is kidding themselves. MS even admitted it, paid for people's repair fees and shipping, and frequently offered a free game for the troubles. This, however, is old news. Adjustments were made to the system and the later batches are much better. However, for the Sony cult members to say that Sony is an innocent angle of a company that has never had problems with their hardware and has the best customer service around is just blind and niave. How soon we forget, I guess. For those that are blinded to reality, I'll refresh. Sony's PS2 had optical drive problems on a massive scale. Actually, it wasn't just the PS2, but all of Sony's optical drives (ask any PC repair tech). They are notorious for crapping out. Sony refused to admit there was a problem and would not do anything for their consumers until......wait for it.......they got sued. Here are some links, starting with the settlement website: www.ps2settlement.com/ video-games.elliottback.com/2 005/11/11/sony-settles-ps2-laws uit/ www.eurogamer.net/article.php ?article_id=61630 forevergeek.com/news/sony_set tles_ps2_lawsuit.php www.gamerseurope.com/news/352 3 At least MS handled their problem without the need of a lawsuit. At least MS actually admitted there was a problem. At least MS offered things to unhappy consumers without being forced to.
This battlecry by the PlayStation camp is old. Stop with the FUD. I don't even believe it anymore. It really seems like a marketing tactic at this point.
Mine died a month ago, i got it on launch day, but microsoft took care of it free of charge and got another one 2 and a half weeks later. shortly after mine crapped out originally, my friend who was behind me in line's crapped out and got his taken care of by microsoft. but 2 weeks after that another friend of mine who got one a few weeks after launch died the same way. But microsoft won't replace it for free for him.
I havent have any problems with my 360 since launch, and I got it the first day. My friend had his PS3 fail once and his slimline PS2 fail once as well. Wow. We could go back and forth about stories. Point is defective units in electronics are to be expected, and at least Microsoft made the effort to replace their units and extend warranties.
I have a launch console, and it died middle of January. I turned it on to play Gears and there was a console update so I updated, then Gears loaded and there was an update for Gears so I updated. At the loading screen, it froze a couple times and I had to restart. Then I got into a multiplayer game of Gears, and it froze. Tried it again, got back in and was about to play, and it froze. I turned it off for the night and then tried again the next day. Tried Gears on campaign, and it froze. I turned it off, then tried turning it back on and got the three flashing red lights. Called customer service, walked me through everything I had already done, and I had to send it in. Before sending it in, I made a note of my serial number for my references. I sent it in, got it back three weeks later, checked the serial on the back and it was the same console. I hooked everything up and started playing SC:DA, only for "artifacts" to start appearing on the screen. I took it out and played some WWE SVR, and it seemed to playe fine. I took that out and put in Gears, and I had more "artifacts" on the screen. I called customer service and they said I had to send it in again. For my troubles I got a "gift game" which is PGR. I called them on a Thursday, and I had the gift game the following Monday. I didn't receive my shipping box until Monday of the week following the Monday I got PGR3. It took them nearly a week to send it out (Called Thurs., and it wasn't sent until Weds. of the following week). I should be getting my console back on Thursday. I'm hoping it works since I've been without it for a month and a half now.
about trading my 360 in ( while its still working, ) for a 20 GIG PS3??? Have a few ?'s though. 1: What type of batteries does the controller require? 2: Can you update the PS3 by using a USB 1 to USB2 connector through my computer. Hook USB 1 into computer USB2 into PS3 go to Sony updates and download? Can you even buy/is there even a USB1 to USB2 connector? 3: How does the picture look hooked up in 720p/1080i component/ HDMI? 4: Does Blu-ray look better then standard DVD/ HD-DVD? 5: Any other info from a ex-360 owner/ new PS3 owner would be appreciated? Thank-You!
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