The News Tribune: "Microsoft Corp. will rely on its Xbox 360 game console for longer than the previous version because it's getting harder to get consumers to upgrade, the head of the company's entertainment unit said."
hahaha, i was THIS close to trolling this Breakfast, but i promised to try to be nice, remember? hahaha, anyway, i'm glad and i hope MS sticks to this. i was really let down when Xbox was discontinued and dropped.
They were kinda forced to stop production of the original Xbox since I believe NVIDIA the GPU maker decided to cease production of vital chipsets needed for the console to work.
It bothered me when they canned the Xbox, too. I wish they would have bothered to make Jedi Outcast b/c before they canned the emulation ninjas. I was that one guy that cared about it.
Yeah, ReBurn...I wanted to play Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath and Serious Sam 2 on my 360...guess it's not going to happen. Maybe I'll pick up an old Xbox on the cheap just to relive both games.
The reason they stopped making the original xbox was because the Hdd was too expensive. http://www.shacknews.com/on...
The GPU was leased and the price was not going down. There was actually a lawsuit over it and that is what prompted the change in GPU vendors. This is also why backwards compatability was not done in hardware and required a great deal to emulate. The original Xbox design was solid, but the business side made some mistakes that cost Microsoft alot of money and kept the system from being profitable. What they learned they applied to the Xbox 360 and shipped it asap like Mr. Moore stated in the interview. -Death
Yep, we learned after dropping 20+ million original Xbox owners that they got kinda ticked off, and if we hadn't done that AND screwed all the early adopters of the 360 with RROD, we might be at 50 million right now. But, when your pockets are so deep they reach hell, you soon realize it's less about making the customer happy and more about stealing their very soul. Hence our brutal, propaganda filled brainwashing media campaign, smothering online subscription fees, and choking accessory costs. these forms of control force the gamer to be self conscious and defensive about their 360, and they will need a spiritual awakening to break free from this abusive relationship. The only thing an Xbox 360 owner has to look forward to is more pain, punishment, abuse and despair. Then they die, not knowing that the terms of their Live subscription follows them into Hell itself.
I like the sound of that.360 could go on for 3 more years.Its got all the time in the world...before 2012
Yeah by that time it will probably be giving away for free. *Buy a happy meal get a refurbished 360 for free* lol
Yup, I think it's definately got a few more years left in the system. Just as long as the dev's can manage with DVD9 and I don't see why not. @1.3: LOL! You did so well restraining yourself(saw your comment in the gamer zone) but you just couldn't hold it in any longer. You got a burning troll in you and it's crying to be let out. I'll make sure I'm wearing a short sleeve shirt on Jan 1 2012. =)
where have you been Stephen? by 2012 there will be 30M+ 360's in the world. that's what will end the world when they all RRoD the Earth just can't stand that amount of heat. :)
Just as long as I get good games I don't care for graphics.Xbla has infinite potential for new developers. Limitations,graphics,sales etc. are unimportant. @Meep Ha! I knew you could not avoid trolling.Its in your droid blood :)
I see years of multi discs ahead of you my friend.
lol, blame Breakfast, i was trying to be nice, then wham! he shows up :)
stick to this MS and maybe you'll get more loyalty from your consumers.
The last gen ended prematurely and this gen has had it's share of complications that needed addressed by Microsoft and cost well over a billion dollars. Xbox Live and Microsofts aggressiveness in securing third party games has done a tremendous job of keeping gamers happy. -Death
people want to utilize their investments. I bought a 360 / PS3 and a Wii all in 2006 (and a replacement 360 in '09) and upgraded my TV in 2005. I would like to not have to consider upgrading until 2012 at the earliest. There's still a lot that can be done this generation. And I'd rather focus on what I can play *right now* or in the near future rather than deal with all the hype and speculation. Graphical enhancements are nice but balance those with gameplay and affordability -- and reduce the risk to developers with lower cost development processes.
i love my 360 and all but i fear the day my 360 decides to crap out on me. this is already my 3rd, hopefully its my final one
Fifth 360 here...but the Falcon Elite I bought in Oct. 2007 has been flawless. So maybe the hardware issues are (slowly) becoming a thing of the past. Left 4 Dead ROCKS!
yea l4d is awesome. just getting a little tired of the 2 versus campaigns. im dying for the DLC. hopefully they add the other 2 maps into versus as well as some new ones
I love trolls, they keep my garden clean.
And with the economy in the tank, I think Sony and MS will keep their current systems on the market a bit longer. I think we'll see a Wii 2 before we see another new 360/PS.
i doubt the PS4 will come before 2013. hopefully by then i am making some money and buy it at launch. i trust Sony to keep delivering the goods with the PS brand
nice find... i'm glad to see MS supporting the 360 longer than the original Xbox...I bought the original Xbox Christmas 2004...man, that was a short ride...lol...this is good news...
I love to hear that someone's actually considering what's in my wallet before releasing that next big mandatory upgrade. Will it stay with me as long and remain as relevant as my PS2? Doubtful, but the thought is delicious.
Real gamers will stick with Playstation 3.
2008 Year of the PS3... opps 2009... I mean 2010... 4 hard drives and just 8 game installs with 20fps and jaggies... but but teh cell
If this is true to MS's actual plan, then it's absolutely fantastic news for Sony. The worst thing that MS could've done, and the last thing Sony would've wanted, is for the release of the next Xbox to be in a swift 4-5 year fashion, forcing Sony's hand to have to hasten the development and release of the PS4 more than they'd optimally like (release within 1 year of the release of the next Xbox). This would have been a nightmare scenario for Sony in my opinion, especially after all the development costs and resources put into the development of the PS3.
This was the fourth Holiday that the Xbox 360 has been available. I expect this coming Holiday to be the last before we start hearing rumors of a new console. Maybe in mid 2010 we will start seeing specs and subtle hints to what the new system will do. Possibly a launch in 2011 which would be 6 years since the Xbox 360 hit shelves. As long as demand is there the Xbox 360 could go on a couple years longer. That really is key, as long as there is a demand the Xbox 360 and PS3 will go for quite some time. If the PS3 starts passing the Xbox 360 up in sales, we will probably start hearing about the new consoles to try and keep people from buying competitors products. I am sure that Sony will respond with a PS4 which will be an enhanced version of the PS3 to be launched at the same time if not just before a new Xbox. More memory, an upgraded Cell, and a faster Blu-Ray drive would fit the bill easily and would be very inexpensive to design and manufacture when the time is right. By keeping the machine as close to the PS3 as possible it will make software development easy and will transition from platform to platform when needed instead of taking years. The new system will be such a close cousin to the PS3 that backards compatability will be standard and probably run on the hardware without any modifications. -Death
Glad to hear. I imagined they would stick with it longer because the 360 actually doing quite well. I dont feel like upgrading for a while. It feels as if the 360 just came out yeterday. Time sure does fly.
this will give everyone who's a little poorer now to enjoy quality consoles and starting Developers a chance to grab cheap tech down the line to get started.
The 360's gaming library continues to evolve and it just gets better and better and better. No longer can you just label it the FPS console with games like Fable II, Fallout 3, Halo Wars, End War, Forza 2, Gears 1 and 2, Mass Effect, Soul Caliber, Portal, and so much more. What made the PS2 so great? Its gaming library without a doubt. The PS2 also had its share of hardware problems especially later in its life, but the gaming library was so far and away better just like the 360's library is shaping up this generation. The ease of development and the power of the console itself is why we are seeing developers shift their focus to the 360 and developers are making money on this system. This is all comes from MS's focus on games and I think the more the 360 sales the developers will continue to deliver. And if you have the games, you have the momentum so why would they stop that. Money is in the software, right?
MS you just got one complaint removed from my bias against you since the XBOX. That still won't stop me from being annoyed of the inhouse developers and franchises chucked aside last gen and the start of this one, though. Still haven't beaten the awesomeness factor of the original XBOX, 360s just a relaunch with better power for those that missed it the last time, impress me MS, impress me.
Xbox 360. I have had my 60g ps3 since launch, because I knew I could not move with 2 consoles (my job gives me the opportunity to take positions wherever I want to go) I went with the one that would give me mgs4 and gt and gow. but I have been wringing my hands together and drooling for too long to play the ms exclusives! The sony games have been way plenty and very fulfilling (wipeout hd is gaming paradise!)but it's time to get a falcon! It's great to be an old school 42 year old gamer since pong in '77. btw it's really hard to understand this console war between these systems! for years all we had was atari 2600 or 5200 then i got a turbografix and sega, i mean come on the ones we have now are god like compared to those! ENJOY whatever you have and don't hate! So silly!
Bubbs 4u mayberry. I have both, both systems have strengths & flaws. If you ever want to get into social online gaming, I highly recommend xbl. PS3 should have a good upcoming year, I have enjoyed titles such as MGS4 & Uncharted on the system & the BluRay feature. But yes, if you can only have one, please enjoy it & why hate your fellow gamers. On topic, longevity is good. I cannot wait to see Mass Effect 2, Gears 3, GOW, KZ2, & other titles that should continue to push this respective Gen. Peace.
You heard it straight from the Lemmings mouth, jump in with our downgraded system. Once we brainwash u, u wont want to upgrade.
For 2011 a new 360 in town, then PS3 its going to be old school, then Microsoft start getting xclusives for the Xbox(whatever they wanna call it) at the time PS3 arrive with a Brand New Console Xbox(whatever they wanna call it) its going to have a lot of consoles sold with a lot of xclusives and destroy PS3. Why because at the time PS3 come out its going to be more xpensive than the Xbox(whatever they wanna call it).
when will the next xbox comes out... will be determined by when the world economy depression ends... If we are still in a hole in 2010-12 I do not think any company will release a new console and lose money selling it.
The talk about financial circles is that MS should consider getting out of the hardware business and focusing on software which has always been their historic strong suit. With it unlikely that MS would be able to break even with the 360 (currently they've had only one profitable year with $400 million vs the 3 billion lost the two years prior since the 360 was released), analysts were opening discussing that Microsoft would opt out of the next generation when it was originally thought they would introduce a new console in 2010-2011. This makes sense now with the price cut. Microsoft is due to report their quarterly earnings at the end of Jan. If they're taking a loss again on the 360 hardware, or close to it, it could herald a shift in strategy. Instead of replacing the 360 they might instead just drop the price so low as to flood the market with their console. Currently they bring in $700 million in XBL fees each year alone which has kept them afloat this last year. By flooding the market with their product by making it dirt cheap they'll take a page from the PS2 (and the Wii to a lesser extent) increasing their XBL revenue and their software revenue. By riding the 360 as long as they can rather then replacing it in a couple years with new hardware they don't incur any additional r&d costs and then perhaps 4-5 years down the road they may have turned their games division's fortunes around, erased the stigma of years and billions in losses and be in a better position to put out a new console then. What worries me is the 360 is already very much showing it's age while PS3 games are simply getting better and better. Playing Gears 2 I realized that this was going to be the best the 360 had to offer, and it wasn't that much better than the first Gears released back in 2006. Considering that nothing coming down the pipes looks even close to Gears 2, I was hoping for new Xbox hardware sooner rather than later. I bet that's not going to happen now.
Why is it that the "cheapest" version of the 360 isn't recognized as being incomplete? That more and more its becoming apparent that games for it are going to require a HDD. Much less the shortcomings of going with DVD and even slow adaption of HDMI. That should be the worry of MS if they intend to continue to be in the console business. This gen has been nothing but an example of their lack of foresight.
I don't plan to upgrade unless they abandon the 360 like they did the original xbox. If they stay, I'll stay, simple as that. The PS2 owners know this better than anyone, they have got their money's worth many times over and whats surprising is that their still making PS2 games, thats value.
After all the fanboy BS then gen, does anyone honestly thinks that the general gamer/consumer is going to buy a new console every 4 years? The industry needs to stabilize before moving o the next level. MS especially since they did drop the Xbox1. As well as the reliability issues of the 360.
microsoft is again,following sony's lead by increasing the length of gaming beyond 5 years.sony said 10 years. now the fans say,"this is great."which it is. but sony has said over and over and over,"it is not a sprint,it is a marathon." second,microsoft can't just jump to next gen because costs of making the next gen games would be astronomical.no chance of companies surviving or being ready to make next gen games. so their only choice is to stick with this gen.but again,sony was right.2 generations in a row. apocalypse..................
I think Microsoft's "next gen" will be keeping the same kind of system architecture they have now but simply upgrading the hardware to more powerful versions of it. It'll be similar to develop and code for but capable of much better graphics and much more computational power.
i want to upgrade in late 2011 as minimum
Big surprise, a state of Washington rag is pro Micro$oft. I think they buy adds in their paper and on their site. For some of us going with the 360 though would be a downgrade.
haha microsoft have officially signed the death warrant for the 360
I would like to hold on to my 360 alot longer than the original. I hope they will get a new model out in like maybe 2012 or 2013.
It's hard to believe because the market is about to change very dramatically.
gamers arent that willing to upgrade to the next M$ machine i think would be a more appropriate title, seeing as how they suddenly dropped the 1st one, and have had the worst failure rate in the history of electronic goods on the 2nd one... Sony and Nintendo have a loyal fanbase coz they know they are guaranteed to work for as long as they should, and arent constantly worrying that 3 red lights might appear on the front of it....
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