This is an interesting article found on the slow sales of the PS3. It makes some logical points as to why Sony's next Gen console is not flying off store shelves as one would expect it to.
Interesting? All old stuff. Ofcourse it can all be true but... Does it really matter??? The thing is sitting on the shelves, period. And even the European launch don't give that much new very good exclusives. Only Motorstorm added to the other one game that's good, not AAA great, just good: Resistance. So even @ the European launch still not worth paying 600 dollars for. If you want to have the best bang for your gaming buck this year and you don't own a next gen console or a Wii yet, take this road: Buy a Wii first. It'll cost ya 250 Euro. You'll be enjoying that up till the moment the price of the 360 drops. Which will somewhere this year (every console gets a lowered price in mostly their second year of their lifecycle). The drop will be with 50 to 100 Euro. So a premium 360 for 299 to 349 Euro. 300 + 250, for 550 Euro you have the best -exclusive- games plus some fun gaming with the motion WiiMote on the supercharged gamecube. That's the way to go in Europe, simple as that.
You neglected to reply to a question i asked you in a previous article,so i thought i'd reiterate it. And for the book, im being genuine and truthful You have a go at the ps3, 3 months into its life span for not having AAA titles. Martyr, i want you to list me all the REAL, EXCLUSIVE AAA titles that are available on the 360 as of NOW, and dont include Gears of War. Im expecting to see alot since its been out for 15 months compared to ps3s mere 3 months. Im also interested to see how many shooters you list
There's no need to join in with Mart. Look at his picture - he had that before the ps3 was released I'm sure. Anyway Gears is amazing, but it has been criticized for its formulaic gameplay and length of the single-player section. And resistence is 88% and in places getting 90% - it's certainly an AAA title. The 360 did have two AAA titles when it released and that was COD2 and Oblivion - neither of them exclusives. What I do find amuzing is 360 fanboys saying that Oh Oblivion wasn't great anyway...have it...when it's average score is above gears of war at 95%...
lost planet, dead rising, blue dragon (for japanese anyway), GRAW, Oblivion. 2 of them are shooters, and yes I'm fully aware that oblivion and GRAW are coming to the ps3...eventually. they did however sell extremely well while they were exclusive to the 360. anyone can debate if these are AAA titles or not, guess it depends on your preference, they are all HUGE sellers none the less.
And deepbrown i dont recall anyone from the 360 side say anything bad about oblivion now but not then.
Well the ps3 has been ranked as one of the worst game launches in history while the 360 has been called one of the best. Call of Duty 2, GRAW, and Oblivion were AAA beasts! But we also had the best arcade racer available in PGR3! Classic games like Kameo. Great 3D fighting in Dead or Alive 4. The 360 had everything covered early on.
I recall it because I read it on this very site. And saying "oh we've had it for a year..blahblah" Everyone was psyched when Tomb Raider came from the PC to the PS1!
@ Shadow neglected? haha come on dude, I don't read all you type, because a lot isn't interesting. Go find the average gamerscores on the 360 and PS3 launch titles and come back to answer your own question. Average for PS3 games will be somewhere around 60%, maybe 70, the 360 had them around 80% to 90% COD2, Condemned, PGR3 and even Kameo. Followed by GRAW, FNR3, Oblivion and more. Actually it doesn't matter what happened a year ago. It's about right here, right now. The PS3 is up to the 360 right here, right now. And it has a lack of good games period. @ Deepbrown Nope, you're wrong. That picture came with the lies of the PS3. Although a dying PS2 by a drive after a very short time doesn't make a gamer happy also. Sony got the Dreamcast to die by their lies last gen, they tried again this gen. But they failed because people read the internet more nowadays and don't believe them blindly anymore Resistance isn't an AAA title. The average is what, 8.6? While Gears got 9.3. Oblivion is a great game indeed, there I agree
8.9 for RFOM actually And 8.0 for LP 8.1 For Kameo 8.2 For Condemned Talk about AAA titles huh. No to mention games like GRAW, Oblivion, Condemned were not even exclusives.
i like mart. somehow.. he does know how to corner himself. q:
Yes Gears is a great game...but it came out a year after the 360 lifespan - you've only just got it. Before gears you had Oblivion and COD2 and that was it.
dead rising AAA? please........
reading through you guys replies, ive summed up that the TRUE EXCLUSIVE AAA titles available on the 360 as of now are: Gears of War Lost Planet Dead Rising Blue Dragon Every other game mentioned were either ports or just not AAA titles Bottom line, TheMARTYR SHUT UP. 360 has been out for 15 months and can show off only 4 AAA exclusives(and they dont spread the genres well either) PS3 has been out 3 months and already has 2 AAA exclusives, Motorstorm and Resistance with Heavenly Sword and Lair on the way
Shadow, so wrong AAA with me is well over 90%. Resistance isn't period. The games I mentioned @ launch all were over 80% indeed. Besides Resistance which games on the PS3 came over 80%? They're all around 70% or below... I was just showing you that at this point in time, the 360 has a better game line up then the PS3 and that will stay that way for a long time. There are more games coming out for the 360 still and earlier (GRAW 1 was an exclusive by the way, GRAW 2 will come to the PS3, but only in fall, while 360 owners will get it in March already). PS3 shows off 2 AAA exclusives? So define an AAA title please. Resistance is mediocore in everything besides it's weapons. It's not well into 90% average reviewscores. It's not AAA. It's good, but not great. Motorstorm, has it been released already besides Japan, with 8 tracks and no online features? The PS3 has one of the worst launches of gaming history with games. Go find some Giant Crabs. What average reviewscore did that funny game Genji got by the way?
there is no 1 big reason as to why they are sitting on the shelves, it's not like it sucks or is of poor quality, it just a make up of all the things the article lists, plus probably a few more. price, lack of games, bad press, strong competition, etc. the best time to judge how it is doing will be throughout 07, and the 07 xmas season. as pretty much every other argument about this "war" has said.
comes from the website ps3fanboy.com Nothing else has to be said! LOL Great objective journalism huh??? Oh and they forget to mention how the 360 was not able to be found on store shelves till Late March????? Guess that doesn't apply this year huh?? Just face it people, nobody wants to pay that much for a Overhyped BluRay player when you have better options out. Simple as that..
Boink, I never post on this site, just look up the articles, but thank you for being one of the few with a system specific logo (and presumably preference??) that doesn't rag the competition, and has well thought statements. Real gamers thank you.
what dose "we've have had it for a year" have to do with "saying that Oh Oblivion wasn't great anyway" hmmm i find this amusing.
Exactly - those are just some quotations from 360 fanboys from he Oblivion ps3 posts. All seems highly irrelevant and illogical to me as well. Glad you agree.
its $600 and were all not rich.
Not meaning to sound like im flaming you- im not, but I have a big question: Is $600 that much ? I dont see it that way. We Europeans are paying around $800 for just the console (£550 ($950) probably in the end once we have games, HDMI cables, and all that), but a lot of us just cough up for it and dont think twice. I dont understand- there are graphic cards out there which cost more than the PS3, and they have a lifespan many, MANY times shorter than the PS3, and yet there are people still willing to pay that much. So I do beg for you to answer this to me- why is $600 too much for a console which will last atleast 4 years before becoming last gen ? I...I dont quite comprehend.
Sure there are $500.00 dollar PC video cards, but not everyone has to buy a $500.00 video card to play PC Games. I myself will only invest $200-250 for a new card every 2 years. By comparing the performance charts from some well known independent magazine/website publishers, I try to make the best economical/performance purchase I can. With the PS3 there is no choice, its 500 dollars or NOTHING. That was a piss poor comparison. If you really want to know why there not selling genius, go to your local toy store and ask the customers. You may be surprised to find out that price actually does have something to do with it.
Are middle or lower class? because price does matter to the lower class which is where most of the world is.
Hmm. The PS3 is not out over here yet, but I will tell you this Most people over here (London) are getting a PS3 (That I know), a few are getting (Or already have) a 360, and no one is getting a Wii. I think its a safe assumption that price isnt too big a deterant here then. Wii, which is £180, is viewed as 'that gimmicky console'. No one is interested, no matter how cheap it is. This is not the best example to base my calculations on, but its not too bad.
You said it bro I didnt.
Man, I am tracking you, now. That is so right. With the PS3 you're getting a Blu-ray player and a games machine, cheaper than a stand alone Blu-ray player. Then there's all the other stuff that XBOX 360 doesn't come with.(oh, that's right they didn't need it). They didn't need it, now XBOX fans are saving up for the NEW black XBOX 360. And it still doesn't have HD-DVD playback (oh, that's right the add-on). Face the facts, the PS3 is good value for money, give up the argument that it's too expensive. Oh, the PS3 may not be flying off the shelves, but it is selling (it has reached nearly 2 million in 3 months). The XBOX 360 is not flying off shelves either. It will give the PS3 a better chance to increase sales during the European launch.
Hehehehe- thank you very much ! And I also agree that its true we are getting much more. Poke fun at Blu-Ray as much as you like 360 fanboys, but im sure if it was the other way around, they would not complain a single bit about having Blu-Ray. Sure, they have a HD-DVD add on, but HD-DVD is not in good shape at the moment, and its not even for games, but just for movies. Even when you do purchase the add on, then it comes to the same price as the PS3, so the price argument becomes non-existant. Thats not to say we dont have a ton of excellent games coming our way. MGS, Mercs, RE, GT, Killzone 2, DMC, Getaway, 8 Days, SOCOM 4 and GoW (God Of War) to list just a few. There are a lot of others too. And those are just exclusives ! Then there are the ports, of which many 360 games are coming to PS3...
If you wait , when there is a clear format winner then HD /blu-ray players will be cheap. Kind of like you can buy a DVD player for $50.00 now. So when you say that buying a PS3 because it is a cheap blu-ray player is a good idea, i would have to disagree. Also depending on who wins the format war you might be stuck with a lot of worthless movies. best to wait.
You do get more for your buck with the ps3...you don't have to buy any add-ons. I think most people do see it as a long term investment...and that's the problem. They have to THINK about buying it...and the more they THINK, the more they see...well it hasn't really got any games at the moment - I think I'll just wait a bit longer. Oh and maybe the price will go down... The Wii sells so well because you don't have to think too much about your purchase - you see the system, you see some people throwing their arms around and then you see the price...and you're like "oh ok. cha ching." You will buy a ps3 if you want one - if you're not sure, you're going to wait.
It is an investment. Like a new house. I think people know they want the PS3, and are willing to save up for it. It's just a matter of time before people start moving in. The PS3 has games just not as many as 360. But it's only been out 3 months, the games are coming. I wonder if the Wii will continue selling, considering it has a niche market.
you absolutely get more for your money with the PS3 ( i can't wait to get mine). I have said this before as a reply to people comparing prices, the xbox 360 can easily cost that much $600 with the add-ons to match what you get with PS3, and that doesn't include ANY games at all. When i picked up my xbox 360, this was definitely the case. So IMO the price comparing is BS, PS3 is a good price and when the games come, definitly a worthy buy.
When are you getting yours?
I am ashamed to say it but i had one, but sold it because it was just sitting there, not many games yet i was interested in. So i got the 360 so i wouldn't go into game withdrawal, good purchase! Hell, i'd go out and buy another PS3 right now, but the games i want won't be coming out for a long time. It does make a great Blue-ray player though, movies were gorgeous on my 50" HDTV.
I feel the same way about XBOX 360 games. Nothing there. O.K. maybe Gears of War. But I can't wait for the new improved Oblivion, Resistance, Motorstorm will be awesome. I already have a Blu-ray movie ready to play. I can only afford to sink my money into one system, and PS3 is it. That is my shame. Not enough time or money to play all 3 systems.
like i said it was gorgeous to the point that it actually looked better than the $1000.00 blue-ray player i bought originally, which i ended up returning because of the PS3. I'm just slightly "ashamed" because i have had a playstation since the first one was launched.
An Investment? They are all game machines. In time prices for the wii, PS3 and 360 will be lower. Then in 5 years there will be Wii2, PS4, and XBox 3, and the other machine will be worthless. If your buying a PS3 for blu-ray, or the 360 HD add on. If you want a few years when there is a format winner, you will be able to get a blu-ray or HD-dvd player for $100.00. I don't know about anyone else but i buy a game machine to play games and do not think of it as a investment. Doesn't anyone understand that blu-ray and HD-DVD palyer will not be 1,000 for ever?
In what way more bang for your buck with PS3? Do you mean the old arguement of getting a 'Blue ray' disk player built in and it works out cheeper than buying a stand alone player would be.Well,you know what,thats false economy to me. It's like going in to a supermarket and buying a two for one deal on steak. Doesn't matter that i'm a vegetarian and therefore have no use for steak. No, whats important is that i can get two steaks for the price of one.Thing is, unless you specifically want a Blue ray player, then buying a PS3 is NOT more bang for your buck. Same applies to other connections that are standard, but superfluous on PS3. I have a Ps2, but have never used the USB or Firewire conections and i'll bet most other people haven't either.I paid for those too.Was that more bang for my buck?
You clearly do get more for your money. I've had my ps2 since launch. Any system is an investment that is going to last you...so that's what I'm saying. If you want a ps3 you'll get it, but only if you really want it. You're not going to just go out and purchase one on a whim. Anything that is £425 is an investment...why are you all reading me as pro-ps3. I'm just stating the fact that if you want a ps3 you have to THINK about it - which is a failure of the price point.
i totally agree with your statement, in fact, i only buy them for the gaming as well, i guess thats why i returned my blue-ray player because i feel it isn't worth it yet. even the ps3 isn't worth it yet for me in terms of games but it will be. I'm sure most people understand that the HDDVD and BR machines aren't going to be $1000.00 forever, all electronics drop in price. Some people (early adopters) though like spending money on whats new and enjoy it. To each their own, if you want it, if you enjoy it, whatever IT is, go for it! Enjoy yourself.
For those of you out their that bytch and moan about HDMI cables. Im busting this myth myself. If your a lucky fortunate to own a 1080P set and you want that superb picture of HDMI. Do what I did. I paid 4.99 plus shipping for my HDMI cable from Ebay. It works just as good as my buddies Monster HDMI cable for $99.99. Dont believe me try it. HDMI is HDMI. So there goes all that "OMG you need a hundred dollar cable". Actually you really dont.
No it isn't. Like any cable, its a link to something else. If what is links to is poor quality, than the cable cannot make it better. If however, a top quality cable links to a top quality device, then the cable can help maintain that quality.Thats why you pay $100 for a high quality cable.
News from any fansite always puts a positive look on the situation, but I actually think SOME of the reasons make sense....either way what I find a little amusing is that even though the US has been Sony's strongest market in terms of sales in the past now for whatever reason PS3's are sitting on store shelves(best answer is games & price, so I expect sales to pick up)....yeah, I think there are some good reasons but I also believe it has alot to do with the competition this time around, people are no longer going with "hype" of the Playstation brand, -hold on before you flame me, I'm not saying there's was anything wrong with PS2 it was a great machine, but Sony capitalized at the right time on PS1's success and used alot of "hype" which did exactly what Sony intended, which was to "stifle" Dreamcast and dev's canceled support for Sega left and right in ANTICIPATION of the "mythological powerhouse" known as the PS2. Sega could hardly fight back, you can't hate Sony for capitalizing on their marketing strength and brand recognition -that's business....the difference is IMO that PS1 was alot better than the competition at the time, but in my humble opinion PS2 wasn't a "powerhouse" over what the Dreamcast offered, but dev's and "believers" thought it would be, thus PS2 racked up a hefty fanbase and dev support, Sega dropped out, M$ "jumped in" but could never catch up, or make it close, even with xbox's great hardware, Sony's strong fanbase and dev support especially Japanese dev's which at the time had alot more creditability than western dev's, of course now they still have alot of respect but western dev's are seen as being just as good in most peoples eyes these days if not better for some gamers....anyway this all lead to the all mighty dominant PS2 we have today! -mwahahaahha! Yep, its a great story but this gen is different, you can't deny it, the mood is different, dev's "believe" there are huge profits to be made on other systems, not just ones with Playstation name on it, fans buy whatever console has those games, WE HAVE A "WAR" ON OUR HANDS FOLKS!(maybe not in Japan, but then again whats new about that -lol) -DAMM! ITS GOOD TO BE A GAMER!
PS3 doesnt cannot even beat VIVA PINATA. seriously. Xbox360 has a massive library.. you have to be stupid not to see past Gears of War ................LOL... PGR3, Condemmened, Battle Hounds, Dead or Alive 4, Dead Rising, CrackDown, Rockstar Table Tennis, Kameo, GRAW, Lost Planet man.... that's just the top of my head...I'm not even talking about Xbox Live Arcade AND Xbox LIVE.... PS3 owners....... takeout fall of man.......what do you have now?really.... Take out Fall of Man, and what games really stand out to buy the PS3 at launch? and dont even bring out the "blu-ray".... that's so lame..... PS3 is a promising system. Not a proven System. 2008 is when you'll see PS3 shine. Hopefully... it fullfills it's promises....
TrueGamer... why post a stupid reply? Xbox360 fanboy?/// okay... but I've got reasons to be. hush down...... stick to the news.
Contra- a. Around 40% of the games you list are rubbish b. Another 40% are for the PS3 too c. That leave 20% which are above 'ok' or above. d. What games do we have to look forward to ? MGS4, Mercs 2, RE 4, GT 5, Killzone 2, DMC 4, a new Getaway, 8 Days, SOCOM 4, God of War, Motorstorm, (Ports now) UT3, F.E.A.R., HL2: Orange Box, Oblivion, and MANY, MANY others.
play those rubbish games on Xbox live.... Stupid. take you numbers... and count how many months you'll have to wait for you promising games.. take your numbers... and count the money you have spent on a ps3 system which had the worst launch take your numbers... and count how many Lies Sony has said.. take your numbers.... and blow it out your A$$
Someone please ban him- nothing he says is of any worth.
Yeah, please, someone ban him. His posts are all pointless.
I dont see why Xbox fanboys keep harping on that alot of the PS3 games aren't exclusive. In case you haven't realised 6 Billion people minus 10 million dont have an Xbox. Many have been waiting for a PS3. Bottomline, PS3 is launching with 30 games and if you dont have an Xbox most of them probably half, are good with a handful being great (e.i better than good). Can anyone tell me another console thats launched with 15 good games?
Fact: They were sitting on the shelves because after christmas people are paying off their credit cards and debts. To be perfectly honest I did see PS3's stacked at walmart and I live in the south. But now they are out of Ps3's, it seems the hype has risen again or somethin. I plan on getting one very soon because I'm a FPS fan and I like games like COD, GRAW, RFOM, KZ2(Which I look forward too), and I am also into RPGs like Oblivion and I plan on seeing just how better it is on the PS3. I've played it on the 360 and had a blast playing it, if it's like the dev's say and is better on the PS3 well then more power to it.
The comments about "360 fanboys"( deepbrown, bathyi, etc.)... I don't think that those people represent 10 million xbox 360 owners. A score of a gamer or it's status of being "AAA" is a opinion. That's something you don't argue over. you'd think that our new, web-2.0ish layout would inspire our users to not waste their bubbles on TheMART and actually discuss the article. PS3's are sitting on shelves because they are 600 dollars? Okay, what f. I have a Xbox 360. I love it. Xbox Live is Fun. Gears of War is fun. Dead Rising is fun. RB6:Vegas is fun. AC4, Mass Effect, GRAW2 and others should also be fun. Would I buy a PS3? Sure, If it was $400. And FF13 plays like it should of played 4 games ago. And Lair is good. And there's some excellent oringal IPs. So, I'm not going to buy something I don't want at the time. Neither are alot of other people. So apperently, they sit on shelves.
Sorry to make an issue of this, but again you start your last post with "Clearly you do get more for your money" you then go on to talk about an investment??Let me ask you to clarify what you mean by more for your money.Simply saying something doesn't make it so.An investment,get a grip, this a toy we are talking about.It will not increase in value over the years,it won't give you any kind of return on your 'investment' other than maybe a bit of fun playing computer games.There is not now, and judging by all known facts,will not be in the future, any reason why the PS3 will be a better 'investment' as you call it, than the Xbox360. Bottom line, none or very little difference in performance between consoles, but a hell of a price hike on PS3 for devices you may or may not use. If you wish to make that kind of investment, then be my guest.
Look the xbox360 is an investment as well. What do I mean for an investment? I mean that you are going to have for around 5+ years as I did for my ps2. Not just a system that won't last long - not something you're just going to buy on a wim. 360 and ps3 are equal on that. Perhaps investment is the wrong way to word it...but I thought it was clear what I meant. You are investing in systems that you are buying games for, for years to come...not that the system is going to grow in value---that's a narrow understanding of investing in something. You do get a lot more with the ps3 - whether that's a good thing or not. To Geohound - I own a 360. I play on it. Do I think fanboys represent all the owners. uh well no...that would be stupid.
I think the article has good points but doesn’t explore all areas of why there not selling here in the US. Word of mouth is one, ever go into a store when someone is buying a system/game and you/they suggest another one. There are some places in America where buying anything Japanese is considered a no no, so products from Japan come second (I’m not one of these people) Then you have the normal complaints cost, no games (right now) it’s made by Sony (joke) and there lies (no joke), popularity of the Wii, 360s growing fan base and games, no rumble, or HDMI not included when they said it would (EGM interview) and don’t forget all the negative buzz hurts to. For all the Europeans who might disagree with me fine, but might I remind you your in Europe and don’t have the PS3 yet so predicting how they sale there is Imposable. Those of you who hate me I’m only giving my opinion as an owner of a business in the US and daily dealings with costumers (non gaming related business but retail, except for my art is sometimes game related). IMO I feel the PS and PS2 were Sony’s masterpieces while the PS3 is there piece of S**T (they all have one Xbox will to) Sony also shoots themselves in the foot every time they promise something and don’t deliver, costumers aren’t all stupid. Raist Condemned isn’t on any other platform besides PC (windows) and 360 so I guess that would make it excusive http://www.condemnedgame.co... I also noticed how you only chose 360 games rated in the 8s and excluded the rest. I personally thought Oblivion sucked and I have always said so but it was a timed exclusive like GTA, FEAR or GRAW. I remember how you PS3 fans used to be haters of all 360 games, now you support the ones coming to the PS3, that’s just funny. TheMart I agree Sony did help in the demise of Sega by lying. I say helped because Sony didn’t do everything Sega did a lot. deepbrown and Master of Menace How do you see something that declines in value the moment you open it as an “investment”? Ok so by your logic in order to get the most bang for my buck I need a PS3. But you fail to mention I need a HDTV (Much more than a PS3) and HD cables a couple of games a sound system and extra controllers and some higher priced DVDs (Blu-Ray) to experience the PS3 at its best. You just made me spend 5 to 10 grand on a gaming system wow that’s what I call an “Investment” Master of Menace when you buy a house its only an investment if property value goes up if it goes down you screwed. GaMr I usually don’t agree with much that you post but this is so true, third party cables are cheaper and the same. I’m a 360 fanatic you all know that but the HDMI issue on the 360 wasn’t a great Idea for the 360 which is why there now retrofitting the 360 for HDMI support. That’s ok sense they seem to be adding in some extras for the inconvenience but you should call 1-800-4My-Xbox when/if the new 360 comes out I’m sure they will have a nice trade in plan (it’s MS they always have good service) Contra26 You crack me up bro your post are full of good points and fanboyism kinda like EVERYONE else here even me. All you people giving him and TheMart crap look in the Mirror (fanboys)
"Sony lied and that killed Sega." They published the specs of the PS2, which basically blew away what the Dreamcast was offering, and developers actually came forth in interviews to tell journalists "No, it really is that powerful." Looks like you have a selective memory. "I remember how you PS3 fans used to be haters of all 360 games, now you support the ones coming to the PS3, that’s just funny." What games specifically? Quite a few of the top 360 titles are PC ports, and I don't remember anyone hating on FEAR, Oblivion, Call of Duty 2, GRAW, all of which are PC ports. Now you're just making stuff up. I wonder why... Is it because 360 titles are crossing over to the PS3?
“TheMart I agree Sony did help in the demise of Sega by lying. I say helped because Sony didn’t do everything Sega did a lot.” Notice the end where it says “Sega did a lot” You must have had some Sony in your eye you skipped over that part, but if you really need links here’s some about the Sony lies http://midwestgeek.blogspot... Here is one about the PS3 lies http://www.ukresistance.co.... About having proof for people hating on PS3 to 360 ports I must remind you DJ many comments were removed by the moderators remember spam or offensive material was removed so its kinda hard to find something that doesn’t exists any more, but oh well DJ thank god we have good memories but look on the bright side I did happen to find a few, Do the research yourself DJ but here they are Juevani http://n4g.com/up/3858/comm... PS3 Ultimate hated on them to http://n4g.com/up/2459/comm... or how about 5asawi http://n4g.com/up/4117.aspx Here is an extra one all these haters when they found out Splinter Cell 5 would be an Xbox exclusive. http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-... Its things like this DJ I use as references for my comments I don’t go into combat without ammo. You don’t even need to respond DJ your going to say my links are invalid and doesn’t prove anything and or your going to quote what I say wrong or purposefully misquote and try and spin it. Dude do I have to do this to you everyday? (My American Arrogance is rivaled only by Sony’s)
As if MS or nintendo never lied... Anyways, i didn't pick any titles. We were speaking about AAA Games, and Mart came with a list. But most of them were far from AAA. Good games at best.
the reason it is sitting on shelves... the ps3 even if it was delayed alot and yes it was a bad launch for a console, i dont care about the records of how bad it launches the worst since whatever that doesnt matter to me. ANYWAY u do have to admit that the ps3 had ALOT OF HYPE, ALOT OF EXPECTATIONS... BUT ppl have had a year already to see what the 360 could do, and lets be honest even if a game looks better on ps3 it is not by much. ppl have seen the innovation in gameplay by the very well priced nintendo wii... ps3 is not living up to expectations and the hype, and the 360 can offer the exact same as ps3, maybe different specs on paper, different exclusives and a blu ray player, and its obvious ppl are not buying the ps3 just for a blue ray player because its sitting on shelves. this console just had too much expectations and it was sonys own marketing and the way this console was hyped. and the nintendo wii has something both the ps3 and xbox do not offer this is why it is on shelves...
600K units worldwide since January 1st, right? If you look at the numbers, the PS3 has sold approximately the same amount. January to early March is historically a very weak period for retailers, so this was completely expected. You act as if the 360 and PS3 are somehow fighting a losing battle, when really it's just the effects of the post-holiday season. There's a reason we don't see new titles until March.
so i guess the reason nintendo wii is selling like crazy is because its well priced and because of the post-holiday season thats a great point DJ... and by the way you assume things, i act as if the ps3 and xbox arefighting a loosing battle???? why because i simply said the nintendo has something both ps3 and xbox dont offer LOL... the last nintendo i liked was super nes, but i can still admit the new wii has something new...
And DJ got owned, again! To bad you have to keep coming back to n4g if you want your pay check from SCEA.
By the way DJ, you mention your gamertag in your porfile, DJ_John, but when I try to look for you on LIVE your gamertag is nowhere to be found. Is it possible that you mispelled it ?
The Wii isn't selling like crazy. It's hard to find one, but that's because they ship very, very few consoles. Here most shops don't even know when they'll get new shipments, and when they do, they get like 5 consoles... I know people that preordered theirs in late december, they still do not have it.
At the moment the PS3 is a waste of money, maybe not to the 220,000 people who will buy it, if they do sell. I'm waiting for a price drop which should come in 2008 and some good games, the only good game is Motorstorm. Resistance looks like crap and plays like crap imo.
I still do NOT want it. You can`t sell anyone on possibilities just facts. And the developers whom we are paying attention to say the PS3 has issues with development and cost. To me it was rushed and ill planed.
...a coherent, well-written article from a fansite. I think they're mostly right...post-Christmas bills, lack of games, etc...but they do need to add another reason: Regardless of who you blame (gaming media, fanboys, etc), Sony did suffer a lot of bad PR during their launch, and that will take some time to overcome. (Hmm...Sony needs games and PR help, MS needs quality control, and Wii needs games. Looks like the next-gen/current gen systems still have some work to do).
Oh and they forget to mention how the 360 was not able to be found on store shelves till Late March????? supply issue, they didn't even sell a million till march. PS3 has already sold more in the same time frame.
well the ps3 aint gona sell alot due to the price this was expected was it not ?. as for more for ur money , how do u come up with that? . sony force a blue ray player on to the gamer for it to sucsead . as for microsoft they stuck with dvd9 to more than likly keep the price down and it workd , do we need blue ray disc for games? hell NO . but sony has brainwashed the fanatics good , to make them believe that they do need b/r . it seems to me microsoft have been more truthfull than sony over this gen . ms said they gona sell 10 million and guess what they did that . they r not saints far from it BUT they listen to the fans and thats nice to know . happy gaming to everyone