Every time that it blunts a date for Killzone, Microsoft answers with a date about something else. "It seems that Microsoft is terrified by all the hype surrounding Killzone 2 and try in every way to oppose his cards marred the best output."
I don't think any company is scared of a single game. Its competition and it just makes the companies try consistently harder to out do the other, its a good thing.
Microsoft should be very scared, since Killzone 2 appears to have gameplay which lives up to it's astounding visuals, and cannot be done on the 360. Best console visuals without a sweat, promising gameplay, 32-player online, promised DLC, no install, and massive hype. I bet even Nintendo got a chill down their spine. Killzone 2 will be the official mark of a tide changed in Sony's favor. Simply buying exclusive games/content will NOT save Microsoft in 2009.
Having been in the beta, I can say the online is fantastic, it plays really well.
While I agree that KZ2 looks amazing, and is going to be hella fun. i think you missed my point, I am certain that neither company is scared of just one game be it MS or Sony. One game will not change anything, what will though is the long term lineup and future planing. MS has known about KZ2 for a long time now, just like Sony knew of MS announcements and each company plans accordingly. Trust me ;-)
I have to disagree with you Dakid. Halo (one game) defined the original Xbox. Most people didn't have any other game but Halo. The article brought up some interesting points.
he did miss your point cause mitchell has a one track mind: Sony good, MS bad. I agree with your original post though, competition is better for the end user in the end.
Halo did define the Xbox, and I did indeed buy it for the game. But do you think Sony or Nintendo were scared when Halo, Halo 2, or Halo 3 released?
I understand what Dakid is saying. No logical company should be afraid of just a single game. Infact, I always believe what pulls people towards Playstation is a variety of top quality exclusive games. And folks, that's going to be Killzone 2, God of War 3, Gran Turismo 5, Uncharted 2, etc. etc. *usual list of PS3 exclusives*
Easy there Mitchell, although you may be correct that is a big claim you are making... Sure MS doesnt want to see this game come out. It proves that the PS3 is technically superior to their console. It appears the gameplay is there to back it up too. I doubt Ninetendo cares, they are way way too busy counting money. However, to say it will turn the tide is a little hasty. A 199 ps3 will turn the tide... possibly a 299 but that is iffy.
Absolutely they are afraid. The only thing they have is HALO Wars and they just announced at CES they are moving that up 3 days to release on Feb 28th - as close to Killzone 2 as they can get.
and i dont like darkness, if only there was some variety then it would have been great, KZ2 technically is a master peace but i still have to see videos of other than darkness to decide if it will change the tides of the console war or not!! i didnt like Gears of war and i didnt like doom 3 and any other dark shooter game, thats just my opinion! i really wish KZ2 had more colors, like some forest and desert and snow, that will be amazing!! we go the idea that first we have to fight them in their towns but later there must be some missions in the wild! but KZ2 with HDTV will make an experience that is not experienced before. and what will really change the tides of the war is ps3 at 299!! EDIT MS will fail to counter KZ2 because they love to rush their titles just to counter any ps3 new releases and never give the Devs enough time to polish Halo Wars thats why it will have many flows and remember that i said it first! if u agree bubble me up, i lost 2 bubble for no reason! EDIT 2 and i really hope they release a better AI by the game release date! a game with such quality and money spend they should have made a very solid AI and that it can be controlled by the difficulty on how intelligent is the enemies!
MS have moved Halo wars release date slightly to compete. Doesn't mean they are afriad and nor does it mean the nintendo or sony are afraid if they do the same thing.
While it's true that Halo may have defined the xbox. You have to remember this was because it was the first game to bring pc-like online play to the table. Haze could have had Halo like success if it was the first to accomplish this. Unfortunatly I don't believe Killzone 2 can bring anything to the table like the original Halo did. I don't think eye candy alone is gonna do it. Eye candy also has also proven that it's not a major factor in selling games. (see crysis) (see l4d vs. Far cry 2)
ever heard of the word "strategy"? How about the word "respect"? Could it not just be that because Microsoft respects the potential of Killzone 2 that they have implement a strategy to kill some of its buzz.
I don't care what you people say but I think MS is a little worried about Killzone but the same thing happen with Sony last year. Last year when gta 4 was being released Sony threw out A Dual shock and gt prologue to help push sells because I think they were a little worried about GTA4 pushing more hardware on the 360. Now this year you got SF4 and resident evil both Sony and Ms want to push more hardware with these titles. Sony put Killzone in betwwen both of these games to push more hardware and Ms is trying to push gta dlc and Halo wars around the same time but it seems like they were wating for Sony to make an announcement for Kilzone's release dates and demos. It is competion but I also see ms a little worried about Killzone by waiting untill after sony makes there announcements. I do think MS has a big advantage of having a cheaper console and they might promote gta dlc more than Sony promotes Killzone.
Microsoft has Halo. 'Nuff said.
I see what DaKid means and agree. Yes, Killzone will probably be a huge boon for PS3 and Sony. But "afraid" is not really an accurate word to use in a competitive marketplace, especially about one product. Sure Microsoft will continue to try to one-up Sony as they release one of their biggest titles in a long time. That's good business, not them lashing out in desperation. To you people saying Microsoft is afraid of Killzone... would you have said Sony was afraid of Gears of War 2? I bet many of you would rather chew off your left arm than make such a statement.
no company should be afraid of 1 game, it's like a boxer punching another boxer with 1 hit, but when a company tosses a whole bunch of killers in a row.. it's like a 1 2 3 4 5 6 hit combo and maybe knock out (well in the PS2 generation anyways). Just an example ^_^ (not gonna happen this generation anytime soon it seems if at all). Anyways MS will make better games maybe trying to hit kz2 level, then Sony will make even better ones then Ms makes better better ones, ETC. In the end, we as gamer should be sitting happily playing all the awesome games. Win WIn WIN!
If you are a fanboy, you can call it fear. For everyone else not blinded by fanboyism, it is a smart business move. Pre-emptively strike... Once could also say, Sony released LBP right before Gears 2 so they must be scared of Gears.... I would also like to point out that they are different genre games all togheter, so it might not have anything to do at all. So stop reading the latest pro Sony (or MS) blog and rehash it here as truths. If you firmly believe KZ2 will utterly distroy MS, then let the numbers speak in February. I do hope KZ2 does well, because competition is good.
i would be.
They Got halo wars the same week
"Killzone 2 will be the official mark of a tide changed in Sony's favor. Simply buying exclusive games/content will NOT save Microsoft in 2009." Wasn't this stated for 2008 for Little Big Planet, Haze, Metal Gear Solid 4 and Resistance 2? And then again in 2007 when all the titles were announced and then delayed? Microsoft doesn't have anything to worry about. Even their really crappy games sell well.
How can they be scared? KZ2 is coming out on the PS3, not the 360. People who have a 360 arn't playing PS3 with or without awful halo wars coming out. I mean come on, I love the 360, but Halo is awful and Halo Wars is going to be even worse. I personally believe all the 360 users will be contenpt playing Gears 2 or CoD or even Halo while people who own a PS3 will play KZ2 during the winter. This article is pathetic.
It's pretty much all MS does though. Sony sets it, MS follows. Pretty much everything from the creation of the 360 to this is Microsoft just waiting to react against Sony. Sony does whatever the hell they want, and MS tries to respond every time. HDMI, 1080p...MS just stares at what others are doing and responds. MS Strategy: OMG Sony is making Home, that looks SOOOO cool, lets release something we can make before they release with very little features so we can make it quicker...NXE!!! Good, now we can keep our XBL subscribers happy for another month. Now I'm not saying MS is scared, they just know how whip their developers to cut corners so that they can attempt to neutralize whatever Sony brings out. While Sony sits around thinking of what to do next, MS is sitting there thinking, "What do you think Sony's doing?"
You could tell that tis is a ps3 fanboy article.The fact is that microsoft isn't scare of KZ2.When Halo 3 came out ps3 fanboys were saying a different story.Ps3 fanboys were saying that sony wasn't scared of halo 3.The fact is that they are right.Their isn't one company that is afraid of just 1 game on the other console and microsoft isn't scared of KZ2.The fact is that companies all ways do things like this it's called competition.Hell sony do the exact damn thing so stop crying like a buch of kids fighting who have the best toy.all fanboys are doining is making an a** of their selfs.. I'm tired of hearing how much greater the graphics are then the 360.The fact is that you can't hardley tell them a part because they are so damn close.The majority of the ps3 fanboys that's talking about the graphics can't even tell them apart.Hell the majority of the people don't even care about graphics,all you have to do is look at the WII.When i buy a game graphics are the last thing i look for.I look for the storyline,game play,and controlles of the game.A game with the best graphics in the world could be the worst game in the world so stop talking about graphics. I'm also tired of hearing that the ps3 is future proof when facts proved it wasn't.Ps3 fanboys are still saying that the ps3 is future when they know it isn't.At the begining of last year a game was released called "CRYSIS".It was only posoable for a pc to play it because the 360 AND THE PS3 was not powerful enough and this is a fact.The ps3 fanboys that don't belive me could look it up their selfs.When the most powerfull home pc was released 2 years ago it was the top of the line.It was more powerful then the 360 and ps3.It is now out dated and need upgrade.So don't say that the ps3 is future proof when it isn't.If it was future proof like ps3 fanboys claim then it would have played CRYSIS and that's a fact. If the ps3 was future proof Sony wouldn't say that the ps4 will be out around 2012 along with the other xbox and nintendo.If the ps3 was future proof like ps3 fanboys claim then why is sony working on a more powerful system as we speak. I'll admitt that i have a 360 and i love it.I wouldn't trade it for a ps3 for any thing.I'll also admitt that the ps3 is a good system as a matter of fact it's the most dependable system every made.I'll also admitt that i wish the 360 had some exclusive ps3 games on it just like i know people with a ps3 wish they had some 360 exclusives on it. I'm just tire of fanboys from both sides not giveing credit where credit is due.I think that the ps3 will start doing better.The wii already won this generation so people might as well face it.The 360 and ps3 will fight it our for 2nd place.The winner will have nothing to brag about because who ever win it want be by much. I know that the 360 had a high defect rate and i agree with ps3 fanboys on that because it's true.Unlike when ps3 fanboys said the next xbox will have a defect in it i have to disagree.Just like sony microsoft will learn from their mistakes.Ps3 fanboys are always saying that microsoft screwed the people because they only gave us a 3 year warrinty.The fact is that it was a lot better then what sony gave for the ps2.When sony was sued over the ps2 because it had a defected hard drive in it they didn't really do anything.The fact was that sometime you could buy a new ps2 and game and it would say can't read disc.After the lawsuit sony only gave us an extra 2 month warrinty from their announcement date.The fact is that i had to buy 4 ps2s because of it in less then 5 years.Every one i know had to buy atleast 2 in 3 years.I'm not saying the ps2 defect was as high as the 360s because it wasn't.The point i'm trying to make is that a 3 year warrinty on a defect is a lot better then 2 and that's a fact. fanboys from both systems should stop being bias and acting childish.The 360 and ps3 are both good systems.They both have positive and negative things about them.They both have good and bad games on the.Fanboys might as well face it they are both here to stay and that's a fact.
The Helghan live on a seperate planet, not just a different town. It would be unrealistic if they had the same weather variations as Earth. It is supposed to be very hard to live their, which is why the Helghast are slightly mutated (they evolved to live their). There is supposedly different environments, they just haven't shown them yet. Same for the AI. They've only shown a couple of levels, and the AI was likely toned down so people could actually get through it.
I fail to understand this mentality this generation, the market is big enough for three consoles. Why one corporation would want to eliminate one of the competitors and probable even the other one too, it makes you wonder just what Microsoft is after.
in what u said i agree with u 100%
It will take much more than that to scar MSFT that goes for MSFT having one title to strike fear in Sony(unless you have a game with Halo star power)
"It's pretty much all MS does though. Sony sets it, MS follows. Pretty much everything from the creation of the 360 to this is Microsoft just waiting to react against Sony....While Sony sits around thinking of what to do next, MS is sitting there thinking, "What do you think Sony's doing?"" Ohhh, so what you are saying is that Microsoft stole trophies from Sony...and just changed the name to "achievements". Ohh, and I had no idea the psn store existed before market place. And you mean that guide button on my 360 controller actually existed first on my ps3 controller. And the video download service was the product of Sony first? Hdd shipping with your console? Sony did that first? Anyhow.....if you are going to make a point please do so without stretching the truth....feel free to list all the stuff that you feel Microsoft copied from Sony.
true but it's what Killzone 2 could prove that Microsoft in scared of.
Don't forget all those times M$ had to cut price to make up for a PS3 price cut... like that one time back in... rrr... rrr... ... . oh wait... I was thinking of that time the PS3 had to cut price twice in 6 months... my bad...
the answer is: NO, MICROSOFT IS NOT AFRAID OF "KILLZONE", MICROSOFT LAUGHS AT IT. please visit my N4G blog: http://www.n4g.com/up/71218...
Yeah I mean the first killzone did some serious damage right?? lol.
The game looks like BOB
...which didn't stop the second one from being a success.
why the f**k would microsoft want to talk about a tittle that is not from them.stupid FONY girls
as a 360 owner i hope MS are afraid of killzone, i hope MS lose sleep thinking about the impact this game could make, because the more they realise that sony are pulling out the big guns then the more MS might try to combat it with somthing of their own. MS has been lacking any real big game news of late, killzone just may be the wake up call they need, because as a 360 owner im not seeing anything worth playing on xbox so far for 09.
i dont think they are.
I wonder how the PStards are going to take it.
ima say killzone is going to rape (trust me there is no bigger killzone hater than me). and anyways i rather choose a fps than a f***ing strategy game any day.
Remember the hype around the first Killzone? that game sure turned out to be an Xbox killer.
This article just gave the media another reason to hate on Killzone 2 Watch the reviewers give it a 7 or 8 now.
Remember the first time a bully got in your face at the bus stop? Or the first time a hot young girl rejected you because you were "allegedly stalking" her? That's how scared my company is on this one. We have done everything to prepare for the launch of this game: 1. We made multi-million dollar deals with large media conglomerates 2. We made more multi-million dollar deals with large media conglomerates 3. We brainwashed an entire generation of young males to believe that somehow, Sony "deserves what they get"; little do they know they are protecting Satan himself (me) 4. Showered media outlets with negative ps3 news 5. Release propaganda news statements about a ps3 price drop soon, when in reality, we have no idea how and when Sony will drop the hammer on us 6. We've made E3 2005 the top ranked search on Google, Yahoo, and MSN 7. We've employed my cousin, Marc Doyle, as head of Metacritic (if he can't fix reviews, no one can) The top execs for my company will be leaving soon for their personal fallout bunkers, designs taken specifically from the game "Fallout", so we can emerge 200 years later and dominate the console market. Our father, who art in heaven.....
@Aaron Greenturd You must live in a very twisted world my friend a very twisted world indeed. But your right am about 62 percent sure MS are planning to take over the world. with an army of giant killer green ants with laser guns.
HAHAHAH! That was great! @ Ryudo It's not ants but GIANT CRABS!!! Anyway, i seems that Sony is doing things at their own pace and ignoring their "competition" and the competition is really acting like an ex-gf that keeps nagging you for attention. Irritating.
Killzone 2 will be the biggest release for sony yet to come. Ofcourse they are not scared, though wise enough to consider the fact that Killzone 2 will become a big hit, which will have a (big) impact on their sale numbers for that period. Think they will and need to do extra markting for their console and games releasing in that time-frame, if not only to loose the momentum of their price cut.
Every game is that one ;)
I'm thinking MGS4 was a bit more important to the PS3 than KZ2... an establish franchise that even semi-hardcore gamers have heard of vs. a sequel to a game that sold and preformed poorly on the PS2. I mean, KZ2 might be the greatest game ever made, but if no one knows about it (And believe me, everyone I've asked has no clue) then how does Sony expect it to sell? Wouldn't it be smarter to put the demo up for everyone to download on PSN, rather than pre-order only? Anyone who pre-orders the game probably has an idea of what the game is; whereas a general PS3 owner browsing the PSN marketplace may come across it, download it, and tell all his other PS3 owning buddies to go get it. This game better receive a better marketing campaign than Resistance 2 or LittleBigPlanet, but unfortunately I haven't seen anything of the sort start yet.
maybe before the holiday period but not now. KZ2 will hardly affect console sales and the 360 has no big shooters due out at the same time as killzone. It will be interesting to see the sales on KillZone. Another little Big Planet or another MGS4? I dont know, but i'll be getting it
MS has got nothing to be afraid of and when the reviews and sales numbers come in everyone will see why If anything Sony should be afraid of Killzone because if it fails, i got a feeling that the reaction will make FFXIII 360 seem like nothing
U can't say stuff like that on this site. Ur not allowed to suggest that Killzone 2 won't be immense I'm afraid. Everyone with a PS3 seems to know prior to it's release that it's amazing, many of who haven't played it. Graphics are one thing, gameplay is another. It's got the best graphics, but no1 not many people know what the single player is like. If this game gets 7 or 8 then it'll be a surprise cos it looks amazin but people will say all sorts of things like Microsoft paying people, the media hating Sony etc, just because people give their honest opinion of it. I'm predicting it'll get better than that (probably 95) but the backlash if it doesn't will be huge because so many people think they know that a game will be good before they've played it.
FFXIII.. Only playable on PS3 nobody know how will it look on Xbox360.. it will be downgraded becouse 360 cant handle it thats why there is no playable demo on 360.
i see your point omega, but i do believe the game has immense potential to be great, only with that comes a massive potential of failure. however to say when the reviews and sales come in you will see.. is just abit narrow minded really. it sounds like you've doomed this game already in your head so how can it ever win you over? let me ask you this, do you want it to flop or do very well? as an owner of a 360 from launch and a ps3 from christmas i'm really excited about this title and i hope it does well because its another great game in already great library of games we can play today. theres is hating on a game because its a bad game (which we dnt know yet) and then theres hating on a game because you hate the company it represents. dont write it off yet you may enjoy it. i'm not laying into you at all just saying, be open minded, thats all.
Afraid? No they shouldn't be afraid. But they should be concerned. Killzone 2's graphics are stunning, and can't be done on the 360. We don't even know if that's the limit the PS3 can put out graphically. It makes the 360 look outdated.
"let me ask you this, do you want it to flop or do very well?" The thing is i dont 'want' it to flop i just 'expect' it to flop and the reason for that is because its seems that the hype of this game is solely based around its graphics, not the fact that it has innovative gameplay, not the fact the the devs behind it have a great track record of making AAA games but purely on the fact that it has great graphics. And because of that i can see a lot of people getting very disappointed when the reviews hit, but who knows maybe hype will fuel high scores it worked for GTAIV And now let me ask you a question and any other PS3 supporter, would you be the slight bit interested in Killzone 2 if it DIDNT have good graphics?
*Looks at Bungies video game development history* Yeah, I think you can quiet down now. It's an advantage that Xbox 360 has yet to prove, so it makes it all the while more interesting.
"And now let me ask you a question and any other PS3 supporter, would you be the slight bit interested in Killzone 2 if it DIDNT have good graphics?" COD4-beating online mode, immersive gameplay, intense atmosphere, great animation, physics, destructability, makes SIXAXIS relevant again.... more than i can say for Halo 3 but i guess you wouldn't know that... being ignorant as you are.. mind if i quote you on the whole "KZ2 will fail" statement?
You guys, it's easy. Care about your opinion, or care about a blatantly obvious PS3 hater Omega4's opinion? If Killzone 2 rocks your world, then let it be rocked. Whether it's the graphics or gameplay. Heck, if Halo 3 rocked your world. Then power to you. You care about the game. You care about what you want. You're a gamer. Not like some douche on a random comment section.
thats fair enough, but from the gameplay footage i've seen and the beta feedback it seems like the game is shaping up very well. i think because there is such a buzz around the graphics that the gameplay has been clouded out but i wouldn't discredit it, lets just see how it goes. please, i'm not a sony supporter or an xbox supporter, i enjoy game on both platforms, key word being games. i take it you support your console of choice, key word being console. thats fine by me. on GTAIV? yeah the hype seemed to work in favor of that one, but this is a different hype, more like a community hype rather than world wide everybody and the great grandma knows about this game hype. so i think this game will get fair reviews, whether good or bad. but i'm hoping good. edit: man, how did i loose a bubble, this site kills me sometimes
@ 5.7 Funny how quite a few of those things revolve around graphics eh and for the SIXAXIS thing sounds like you got a bit desperate there since turning a handle isnt exactly groundbreaking is it "more than i can say for Halo 3" so your saying K2 offers more than Halo 3? Because i think H3 had a lot more going for it than K2 i mean a level editor and theatre already put K2 online to shame and NO coop!? Whats up with that and apart from classes what does K2 have what H3 doesnt And quote me if you want because i got a very good feeling this game wont outscore Halo 3 and the only site a can see giving an overly good score is IGN US since they always seem to overate PS3 exclusives EDIT for BlackJack1988 Yeah IGN is generally credible just not the US PS3 section of it because if you look at the scores of R1, R2, R&C: TOD, Folklore, Uncharted, Motorstorm and compare them to the average scores of those game they are way out its sad but true. And H3 wasnt overrated its online alone makes its a 9+ game
ouch omega, ign is one of the most credible sites going in my opinion, now you're saying they overrate ps3 exclusives? you think halo 3 wasn't overrated?
Omega4 do research before you say ignorant things: Hint's about 4 Player campaign: http://www.psu.com/Killzone... Killzone 2 co-op to be patched after launch, bots confirmed: http://www.ps3fanboy.com/20... -------- Funny how you say things like Sixaxis sounds desperate when Microsoft is adapting their own motion controller. "And quote me if you want because i got a very good feeling this game wont outscore Halo 3"-Omega4 Done and done, enjoy.
While you do give some very valid points on how this game "COULD" flop, and that if it does it won't be pretty, I dont think it will. You said what does this game have over games such as Halo and Gears? Firstly its graphics outshines anything available on 360(I know you said besides graphics but this is important). THis game proves it can surpass the abilities of the 360 graphically and makes the system's games feel dated. Secondly the Physics, The physics have seemed to be unmatched by any game today. Never have they been so relavent to gameplay as in this game. When you shoot someone in the foot, they hop around in pain. When you set someone on fire, they flap around like a bird trying to put it out. Death animations are all different depending on the way he died. Gameplay: Killzone 2 has a few things over Halo that make it look dated. Firstly, Killzone 2 uses a Cover System. This is quite innovative for a 1st person shooter. The game seems to give a sense of heavyness that is definitely lacked in most FPS. There are no bunny hops here. As you said before this game is Class Based with a very unique set of skills. Such as the sniper, can create tiny blue targets on all opponents heads for better targeting as well as turning invisible. Word of Mouth: K2 beta testers are RAVING over this game, everyone who has touched it is saying this game outshines Gears2,COD4&5, and Halo 3's gameplay by a mile(some biased reviewers giving props, but not as much). The game has already been played by alot of people and the LOVE it. The Game is going to be marketed heavily, probably not as much as Halo3 was, but still. This game will get some exposure and might just be able to dip into that Halo/COD4/Gears2 fanbase of 8-9million. So far, it seems the only people who are not interested in this game are just purely unwilling to admit that it is better then the rest or are just not into shooters.
Omega the main reason Im hyped for this game is the online, I never played the beta but I usually have a good assumption on gameplay when I see it in motion. I did my research on the different classes that seems awesome why the hell would I not be excited. Just watched this video and tell me it doesn't look intense and fun. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
more ps3 exclusive ratings than any playstation fan.
i get ur point.. I really want KZ2 to be a success coz right now i have 400 pounds in the bank which can either go for a bunch of games or a new ps3.. and to to make that just KZ2 needs to not be just good in graphics, it should be gd in story, gameplay weapon choice, AI, should have coop(come on its a standard these days for a multiplayer) it should be surgically made as beautiful as a bride and me as the groom to pick of that shyt and play it will all delight. Halo3 well i dont play that anymore but it was a good multiplayer the coop 4 players thru campaign which was epic... i just wish KZ2 would give us that and other things as i mentioned .. if they do.. I AM SOLLLLLLDDDD... Coz i remember playing thru em.. Turok.. the graphics was really immense but the gameplay sucked i true the disc out in like what an 1hr.. so i just dont want to jump too fast into the hype wagon just yet until i hear what the game got up its sleeves. but beautiful looking game nontheless