This article is huge...but included within are best sellers by region, total hardware sales, market growth from 06' to 08', every game to sell over 3m worldwide in 2008, general predictions for 2009, and numerous images/charts to back up the claims.
whilst the wii and DS's growth in particular are outstanding. The ps3 and xbox 360 have also shown equal sales since the ps3's release which is good for the market as competition will be rife throughout both system's lifetimes. Europe is also proving itself to be a market as important as the North American one with huge sales. However it is the Japanese market that seems to be the sorry sight with only the 360 and psp showing any year to year growth.
You leave people little room to troll. Wii - 26,177,888 X360 - Murdered PS3 - Murdered
ahh put that back up breakfast... i saw that :p i actually agree with you for once
And the devolution of games with story and emotion begins, back to mini-games it seems :(
Not Sure About these numbers just because i was under the impression sony didn't manage to sell 10mil, you know becuase of the interview by some Sony executive saying they didnt think they were going to reach the 10 mil goal for the year
Have you turned over a new leaf? You used to just troll on Sony articles all the time.
I was surprised to see the PS3 and 360 so close too each other. What with all the tales of the PS3 not selling and how it was on the verge of collapse. The only region the PS3 isn't putting up a fight with the 360 is the US, so I guess that says something about where most of the negative articles arise. Moral of the story is the PS3 is doing just fine.
PS3 and 360 are basically neck and neck since the ps3's launch. Looks like the Wii will overtake the DS next year too, which equals more casual games. Yes!
if this are the right numbers then i sony did not do that bad, the difference is not even a full million, i think the number are wrong
nintendo has really hit the jackpot.
so yes along way ahead but the 3rd year for the ps2 is when it started hotting up but it is already too far behind IMO. For additional comparison here is the hardware table for selected systems with launches aligned at just over 2 years of their lifetime: 1.Nintendo Wii: 45 Million 2.Nintendo DS: 35 Million 3.Playstation 2: 25 Million 4=.Playstation 3: 19 Million 4=.Sony PSP: 19 Million 5.Xbox 360: 16 Million 6.Xbox: 13 Million 7.Gamecube 10 Million
"The wii is at 45 million whilst the ps2 at the same point in its lifetime was at 25 million so yes along way ahead but the 3rd year for the ps2 is when it started hotting up but it is already too far behind IMO. " The PS2 started heating up in its 3rd year because it had a price drop from $299 to $199! The Wii hasn't even seen a price drop yet! Wait till it drops it price.. Ninty won't be able to keep them in stock!
Fact is Nintendo don't need a price drop. They have enough of name for them selves to keep the ball rolling in the casual market that even is the other consoles matched the price, the Wii would still keep selling.
Interesting article. A lot of people are going to disagree with the numbers, though.
I don't think you can really claim any sort of bias in the article though as it seems fair and logical.
Of course, this belongs to the VGchartz conspiracy.
wow, didnt realize how neck and neck the ps3 and 360 are
*sigh* First off, VGChartz. Secondly, none of this is possible, since the news said PS3 is doomed. DOOMED!
The older numbers (until the last 3 months) are not vgchartz numbers they are based off the numbers from manufacturers. The last few months are vgchartz estimations which have proven more accurate than I thought they would as they are close to the numbers MS gave recently. MS claimed 28 million shipped and vgchartz have it 27 million sold to consumers. Whats bad about that. Also if you read the article you will realise that it is based off numbers since the 'next generation' began. Its an interesting analysis even if you don't quite believe the numbers. But if you want to take it with a pinch of salt then its your decision.
The news never lies. PS3 is doomed. DOOMED! I'll lay the sarcasm on thicker next time, promise.
They have MGS4 at 3.75M sold WW...strange. Oh wait, this is VGChartz, nvm.
the same way that hardware and every bit of software is reported by the companies. It is impossible for them to accuratly announced how many units are in homes. Do you think each company has a representative in each of the thousands of stores around the world counting sales? No. Thats why all companies give so much weight to NPD because they are the best estimations we and they have. If they have their own better numbers how come you never see companies disputing NPD?
yeah lol and they show that 360 outsold PS3 for 2007 which is TOTAL BS. PS3 won 2007 by 1.5 million
I can't find any evidence for this. So come on prove what your saying!
@ wii ft show proof that VGchaartz is sayin true... Theres none. They assumed all, NPD that has some credit VGcrap has none. 100proof They assumed Metal Gear Solid 4* PS3 Konami sold 1.50m. Konami says 3,5 milion. So whose layin' ? 100% True For VGchartz there are three teritories: AMERICA (yey for yankies) JAPAN (they don't have souls) OTHERS (hmm about whole world ? ) What about Russia , india, china tajland and other countries where microsoft even don't want to think and sony already is there.. Ups VGchartz don't knw what is india russia even europe they can't track soo there no other than OTHERS. Oh Sorry there is an UK it's more cultured civilization they use english ;) Soooo in all Other countries x360 and ps3 sold about 5 milion each ? Eh ? that is a big fat lie.
So, the 2 are pretty much neck and neck? Kind of makes you wonder what the fanboy arguing/spam articles over the last 2 years were on about.... ha...
Now where is that article that stated that the 360 outsold the PS3 by 8 million this year? Correct me if I'm wrong, but this certainly DOESN'T look like an 8 million lead on sales. In fact, it seems that they are both pretty much neck and neck.
I'm pretty sure Microsoft was referring to their overall lead. 8 million more 360's sold than PS3's in its lifetime.
Okay then, that makes more sense. I apologize for (grossly) misinterpreting the article.
but even so the number dont add up
Did Microsoft just announce yesterday they sold like 10.3 million consoles worldwide for the year?
i'm not gonna even believe this stuff because it says that PS3 sold 7,618,421 for 2007 while 360 sold 7,929,882. first of all, PS3 outsold 360 by 1.5 million for 2007 PS3- 8.83 million for 2007 360- 7.3 million for 2007 so no thanks to this article, i'll wait for the official words from sony.
There is none! Look at the shipment figures from both companies and you'll see they practically tied with MS having the slight edge. That wasn't a bad result for the ps3 considering the awful start to the year it had. Remember its fight with the GBA in early 2007's NPD's?
you see all your sources have one fatal flaw that if you were around analysing sales would be apparant. All your sources point to sony shipping more units in 2007 than microsoft. This is true. They shipped more. However at the end of 2006 Microsoft was missing its sales target so they decided to 'channel stuff' to please investors. This meant at the end of 2006 they sent far too many consoles into retailers and as a result in the first 3 months of 2007 they only had to ship an additional 0.5 million units as the retailers were already flooded. Mint royale is right. Shipment sales sony won but in sales to consumers Microsoft edged it. Your numbers are sold to retailers and not consumers which vgchartz is estimating. Please read my post and don't dismiss it.
because with comments like this: "so no thanks to this article, i'll wait for the official words from sony" I hope you know alot more about baseball than it sounds like you know about the videogame industry also you show your age/loyalty because it seems you are a willing believer of sony claims when both companies have a history of spinning the numbers in their favor....notice I didn't say lie, no but they do slant the definition of what they mean by "sold" at times to benefit their press releases. Now as far as vgchartz is concerned yes their numbers from week to week & month to month are "guestimates" based on sample data from retailers which is why *sometimes its way off but their older data is adjusted based on NPD & official data released by the companies so therefore vgchartz older data is accurate according to what was reported....but the funniest part is how sure you sound about ps3 outselling 360 in 2007 yet the links of sources point towards "Gamesblew" which is basicly missing any reference to sources like NPD, GFK, Mediacreate etc which tracks sales data reported by retailers, which is likely due to companies like GFK not tracking sales data consistently over a 12 month period. Again your age is showing.= JOY
you take sony's word, But you won't believe it when microsoft's... Kinda have to accept each set of figues with a grain of salt there.
im not as young as you guys think and i have both systems. i play both system almost the same amount of time. so dont tell me that im loyal to sony. i'm just stating the obvious and btw i probably know more baseball than everybody here combined
http://www.scei.co.jp/corpo... FY2007 Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 FY(*) 0.71 1.31 4.90 2.33 9.24 Remember this are the number from sony for all of 07 her is wat thy have for the Q1 and Q2 FY2007 Q1 Q2 1.56 2.43
Since my last comment was useless and comes off as ignorant or perhaps a little fanboyish, I'll have another go at it. You guys can argue back and forth all you want, but the 1 million or so difference between the PS3 and Xbox 360 is miniscule. As in, it doesn't matter. What does matter though is the growth of the entire industry. Nearly 100 million (well after some quick adding and rounding I may be pretty far off, but either way a huge amount of consoles and handhelds was sold) consoles and handhelds scarfed down by the public last year is great. It ensures the continuing expansion of the industry, which while certainly resulting in an influx of 'casual' games, there is far more support for high quality and big budget games. It's especially great because of the world wide recession that hit during the second part of the year. Console (and handhelds) have been moving no matter what.
But you can't deny that there's certain connotations placed on the things that this "1 million" stands for. For example, 5 milliseconds is a very short period of time. It's the speed at which you blink, the human mind can't even properly conceive it, but in a sprint it can be determining factor between gold/silver, silver/bronze, or any other positions in a race. So even though 1 million units isn't that much it provides a position, one which can be used to exaggerate the flaws and shortcomings of it's rival. It's a device that can be used to manipulate the public. With the right spin, 1 million could be insurmountable odds which can convince developers. It could be the tipping point between cult phenomenon and wide-scale recognition. I guess all I'm trying to say is never underestimate the value of a number, especially in the market economy.
God I love Xi's posts. Always food for thought. :-)
I personally couldnt care about all of the statistics etc... Just give me something i want to play and im happy as a pig in $h!t :-). Its rarely i go onto these sorts of articles.
I guess its decided then , 360 won Unless 360 magically stops selling for the entire year and sony sells 8 million ps3s during the projected worst period of economic stress ever
What else is new..
Well , have you herd dat da ps3 has mad grafix and has killzone 2?
Once again bots those are shipped numbers MS has posted. Not sales.
there's no difference as they all report shipped numbers.
funny how M$ keeps ranting everywhere.
All 3 competetors used SOLD TO RETAILERS as their official numbers. Prior to this they used MANUFACTORED sales, which included all consoles made and were in transit or storage. Please do not claim that one company uses Sold to retailers while another uses sold to consumers. It is impossible to track sold to consumer sales which is why the NDP is so a well known, and even their sales are incomplete.
even though NPD data is also somewhat incomplete/flawed, its still accurate enough that all 3 companies use/refer to it when giving official statements related to sales. JOY
I wish everyone knew this and wouldn't be so ignorant to claim some manufacturers post sold to consumers numbers.
PS3 is 10 years life span with future proof. 360 is no future proof and can't stay that long. so the ps3 will eventually surpass the 360 and can achieve that fast once it get her much anticipated price cut. cheers!
Future proof was a term sony used when they thought people would be buying their system and software. unfortunatly , they will have to pull a VERY big rabbit out of their hat to beat MS
but if you think sony will wait 10 years to release a ps4 you are sorely mistaken. The ps3 was released 6 years into the ps2's lifetime and the ps2 was the most successful console ever before the wii. Again who knows what will happen in the future.
They are both fighting for second place. All this over 1 million or so units sold or shipped... my little small white trojans will rule the world :) Wii ftw 2009 with motion+ and some good 3rd party support battle with MS and Sony reminds me of Coke and Pepsi, then came along bottle water, then guess what they jumped into that also.Only difference is I don't believe they will try and copy Ninty, well not this round.
that VGchartz is STILL showing that the 360 outsold the ps3 in 2007, despite the vehement protests of the sdf on n4g. It's downright rude of VGchartz to ignore the collective sales spin of every sony fanboy that exists, imo. RUDE i said!!! //end srcsm
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