Why Is PlayStation Making A Wii U?

Project Q is a weird device that feels like it’s arrived at the wrong time in the wrong place, for the wrong company

[just_looken]

"Project Q uses PlayStation’s Remote Play system to connect to your PS5,"

Exactly psp ps vita always lead the way with new tech be it those umd movies/games or the oled screen that after 6yrs nintendio is using.

But here they are showing off something my psp/psp 2000/ps vita and my phone for over 7yrs can do.

I can also grab a amazon phone/controller holder and get this experience right now.

Xbox through there app can do this
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Sony through there app can do this
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ps4 controller phone holder
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xbox phone controller holder
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Another ewaist device added to the large pile that has been growing from all compaines

[Snookies12]

Yeah, this thing makes no sense whatsoever... I want the next evolution of the Vita. Not some BS you have to stream over WiFi. I'm not like a lot of complainers on the showcase. I thought it was pretty dang good overall. But this "handheld" just felt like some side thought by Sony.

[just_looken]

With amd all in the consoles i thought we would get there mobile chipset.

A unix handheld using the os from ps4/ps5 with there mobile amd chips/ laptop gpu would have been way better.

6700m gpu
https://www.notebookcheck.n...

5700U cpu
https://www.amd.com/en/prod...

Just the cpu so dedicated gpu with cpu and some ram ddr4

Screen from the vita days oled but 1440p 75hz

Its all old tech now as a new line is coming out but buy bulk i can see and amazing $500-$600 ish dollar handheld.

[blackblades]

If that happens the games will be spread thin with ps5/vr2/vita2. This isnt need cause of the steam deck and phone+backbone but vita 2 is also not needed. Also article is lame

[andy85]

To be fair you don't have to be in your house or use WiFi to play your PS5. It's not as bad as peoppe are saying depending on the price

[derek]

Some people don't want to play games using their phones i find that idea highly objectionable. A dedicated device I could use to play ps5 games remotely around the house may work for some. You guys over think things.

[just_looken]

Then grab a old cellphone from the past 6yrs use remote play on that there dirt cheap or a psp or a ps vita both cheap.

Or a cheap tablet you can get via a points card

The remote play tech is older than alot of playstation gamers now

[Lore]

Don’t understand why they don’t allow for it to play your digital library straight from the device though, similar to the steamdeck. Very odd choice

[EvertonFC]

Exactly, I tried valiants heart off Netflix games on my phone and a game called Motorcross 3 the other day and after 5 mins my phone felt like it was gonna melt it was that hot plus the battery lost about 15% in 5/10 mins.
I was like fu*k that

[GotGame818]

You don't have to use a phone. You can use a tablet. Bigger screen.

[yeahokwhatever]

bingo. i literally only bought a switch so i could game while the tv is in use or in various locales in my house. this thing fixes it, AND i dont have to play horrible switch games.

[jznrpg]

The problem with those old devices is they have old Wifi chips and lag a lot. A much better WiFi chip which I would assume this has the best available as a dedicated WiFi device and that will be a huge difference

[SonyStyled]

That’s a good point and probably a primary reason for a new device. Still it’s hard to see the necessity to purchase another device. During the ps4 they started advertising the vita as a remote play device, now moving to tablets, phones, laptops. I don’t see how this new device ‘fits’ into what’s already available, but who knows 🤷‍♂️

[Magog]

https://n4g.com/user/blogpo...

I literally called it. Makes sense as long as you can use it on any WiFi.

[--Onilink--]

I cant even begin to imagine the kind of latency you would get if it were fully remote.

Cloud gaming is already latency bound when connecting to multi million dollar data centers with dedicated hardware, software and networking.
Imagine how that would play out when you are connecting instead to your PS5 that is on your home wifi and through all the ISP hops in between (not just for download, but upload too).

It is absolutely not doable as a device that works outside the same network (even in the same network, remote play isnt that good right now)

[just_looken]

Do not imagine go downtown on a wifi with your phone use the app try it.

I remote played downtown via my psps to my ps3 years ago great for message checking/chat rooms

Back in those days there were cell phone version for sim cards

Perhaps sony will launch a atrack player with red audio jack for $400 next lol

[GotGame818]

Remote play works much better than it did a few years ago. I have 500mps internet, and have 0 issues most of the time. Multi gig speeds are becoming common place now. Honestly remote play shouldn't have any noticeable lag at all with speed like that.

[yeahokwhatever]

I have a 6-8ms ping. I'm fine.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

CMA didn’t get that memo on cloud

[Magog]

Ping on 5G is actually damn good and any phone can be a hotspot.

[andy85]

I use it at work using mobile data with my PS5 at home and it's fine to be honest.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

You called out a device that has like a 1% use case …congratulations.

Q is a misstep.

[Magog]

When Microsoft copies it for use with Xcloud you will be singing a different tune. 😂

[343_Guilty_Spark]

@Magog

Why would they copy it when Xcloud is available on any mobile device including portable PCs?

[Magog]

Because dedicated hardware is better.

[masterfox]

because....

[Kaii]

one could say the technology already exists with the PS Vita
I'm only mentioning it because just_looken brought it up, but companies should be responsible for the amount of ewaste they generate, we're missing more Info on this product but if its just simply an extension of what the PS vita did with remote play it's ridiculous.

"Strive for Innovation" Earbuds & this 🥴

[Sonic1881]

Because of Jim Ryan aka the new Don Mattrick

[gold_drake]

you do know that theres someone else above him, right ?

[isarai]

Only interest I have in it is what will it be capable of when people mod it.

[Rimeskeem]

I don’t think it is a Wii U?

It’s not it’s own console?

[Asplundh]

I guess the comparison is because it seems to not be very portable. One of the biggest flaws the WiiU had was that the tablet wouldn't really work unless you were within 10 feet of the system and this thing has to be connected to Wifi.

[Rimeskeem]

So it has to be connected? Have they released specs for how much data they expect it to use? Because having a hotspot on your phone and being able to play single player games while on a business trip would be lovely for some people I’d imagine.

[Neonridr]

@Rimeskeem - I can't even imagine the input lag you'd face doing it that way. It's ultimately designed to work when connected on the same network.

[Flawlessmic]

Defs not for me.

I'll give it one thing though, for as stupid as it looks having a cut off dual sense on each side, that does alleviate one big problem with handhelds which are usually flat backs which is comfortability.

It will definitely be comfortable to play atleast for those that are interested in it with having proper handles.

[Abear21]

For the right price I’d be all over this. No memory cards or separate games to purchase, just a (hopefully) light device device I can play Darkest Dungeon 2 in bed with.

[northpaws]

The device would work as long as you have wifi, and it is an "optional" accessory, not like this is the PS6.

I would love a new portable PS device, but this doesn't contradict with that idea, they serve different purposes.

[blackbeld]

I can only cheers for this. A mobile is to small and plays like sh!t. With this I can let my teenage son play on his room without disturbing me.

[Stanjara]

And he is using you PSN game library. There is no need to buy games again on the Switch.

[blackbeld]

He using his own PSN account. What about the switch? What are you talking about?

[Stanjara]

Omg I have to explain. You have your psn library of games, that you invested money in. So attaching another psn account to have access to that is no problem.

If you give your son a Switch... what is he going to play? You have to buy again new set of games, in most cases the same ones.

[Stanjara]

Kid goes to his room to play ps5, while Dad is watching Netflix on his 75 inch Oled.
Sony: You don't need a Switch.

It's basically that.

[Puty]

More like ps vita tv. Remember that?

[FallenAngel1984]

Remote Play existed long before Wii U released

[boing1]

There is got to be more to this, right? It can't be just for Remote Play. That would be just stupid.

[anast]

This is a strange product. Are the ear buds out yet?

[BlackDoomAx]

Please don't insult the Wii U. This thing uses wifi.

[yeahokwhatever]

this is exactly what i want and will be replacing my disappointing switch. day 1 for me. easily.

[goldwyncq]

Should've made a Vita successor instead

[anast]

I think they are going in on VR instead of handhelds. They could do both, but a lot of other things would suffer.

[jznrpg]

Not going to lie I’d rather have a handheld but I get not wanting to spread yourself to thin with 3 devices to make games for.
I’ll get it because I collect proprietary stuff and I’m curious how it works. I can use it sometimes when my kids are going to bed or wife is using my gaming tv but I’d prefer a dedicated handheld no doubt.

[Agent75]

Sony could launch a console with no games and it'd still sell out week in, week out. You'd have to be clinically obsessed with PlayStation to buy this.

[repsahj]

This is just a PS5 add on like the earbuds, edge, and accessibility controller. No need to make headlines about it.

[JokerBoy129]

THANK YOU! Everyone who spent years complaining about he Wii U are suddenly overjoyed about Sony doing the same thing, but an even worse version.

[Father__Merrin]

This isn't a console it's a streaming device for PS5 owners. The unit looks neat but I don't remote play nmso not for me

[Babadook7]

It’s not a Wii U. It’s an add on, not a massive pack in console controller. The Wii U had plenty of software to take advantage of assymtical gaining like Nintendo Land. This is more like the PSP and Vita; both of which had remote play long before Wii U.

[Richhard1]

Don’t knock it til you try it, or hear about what else it’s capable of nearer the time

[bigfish]

Could be good if you can use it as a secondary menu or stats screen on the controller when playing ps5 on tv

[Destiny1080]

I'm glad its not a new handheld, it would just end up, taking away resources from PS5 games, somebody will test to see if its any good, if it sucks it sucks, but sony are not in the business of putting out garbage so lets give them the benefit of the doubt for know

[ThePacemaker]

GaaS & PSVR2 are already draining resources unfortunately.

[Babadook7]

Yah PSVR2 is taking enough developer resources. Although that’s ok because it’s fantastic. Sony doesn’t need a dedicated handheld.

[carrotcakeag]

I wasn't happy with the way they handled Vita at all. I mean it was an awesome product but they mishandled and dumped it. A decade later they are preparing to re-enter the portable space with something worse than that. It even looks like a generic tablet device with controller halves attached, the same kind of product that's already widely available elsewhere.

It could be something if it had other functions besides being a stream screen. All it would take is an outdated ARM chipset to natively run Vita games, emulate PSP/PS1 and have access to the Vita store. I still care about preserving those games since no current hardware product from Sony can play games purchased on that platform and they could easily change that.

The least they could have done is engineer something that doesn't look like a Frankenstein's monster of generic tablet and dualsense. Unless it has an awesome price that undercuts similar products, it doesn't have much of a purpose.

[Babadook7]

This isn’t a portable. They are not entering the portable space. This has no dedicated hardware to develop for and can’t fail like the vita.

[GoodGuy09]

Honestly a nice option for those not wanting to use their daily driver phone to stream and would like the dualsense features as well. I always disliked using my own phone as the battery just gets drained and most 3rd party phone controllers are expensive and terrible. What would make me think about actually getting one is if the bitrate picture quality and input lags are very good without needing to be too close to your ps5 or router.

Of course price will be a huge factor as well, it seems it'll be at least $200. I also wonder if it is hackable to play emulators at some point lol. I'm guessing it'll have a chip of a phone or some such. Another bad piece of news is...bad battery life, sony sticking to tradition lol.

[xetiro]

People are so narrow-minded these days.

What's the issue here? Absolutely none.

Sony is just expanding PS5 accessory ecosystem. Project Q is just another accessory that I am sure will fit the use-case of many PS5 owners.

And just because you can already remote-play to your phone or tablet, doesn't mean you can't have a proper accessory 100% designed to be the best PS5 remote-play companion.

In fact, I bet Project Q will be the biggest ambassador for remote-play moving forward, when compared with all other alternatives. At least now, people already realizing that you can already remote-play with other accessories lol

Play more, talk less!

[GameBoyColor]

depends on the price. but no oled screen is a bummer. I do enjoy my g cloud but that can emulate games and has access to all forms of streaming games. And moonlight pc streaming is far superior to remote play in my testing. If this can't do any of that and is locked to being remote play only this thing is doa. in fact the g cloud was doa itself really so even worse odds for project q lol.

[InUrFoxHole]

Let gamers have options... im all for it

[Nerdmaster]

"Why is Sony copying Nintendo?"
Well, this is their modus operandi since the first PlayStation, so no surprises there.

[giovonni]

It’s simple, as many of you want to disagree, fight, kick and scream, the future is “games on the go” which means there will be an aggressive push toward streaming. “ PlayStation lead Jim Ryan has said Sony will reveal some "aggressive" cloud gaming plans "in the coming months". As of right now, PS5 supports the ability to stream PS3 titles via a PS Plus Premium subscription, and the PS Now service before it allowed for the same.” Xbox is well on its way buy securing content, with its cloud infrastructure. Soon consoles will be portable, and before someone says “We don’t have a strong enough connection” we are talking about the future.

[Master of Unlocking]

Shouldn't the question be "Why Is PlayStation Making A Switch?"