At a Microsoft sponsored conference last week, the top game industry professionals gathered to discuss the future of developing video games. The news might alarm some hardcore gamers.
**Sigh** I like my Wii.. But the last thing I want is my Xbox to be transformed into a Wii Clone.. Talk about losing hardcore fan base..
I don't know, I think the NXE is a step towards making the Xbox into the next Wii. It drives me nuts, but I can see it happening.
That would be a terrible thing if it were to happen
What's next? The WiiStation? The PS3 already copied the motion control..
I have seen those videos online. It is pretty scary how everyone is now trying to get a piece of the Wii pie. This is after they mocked it before launch.
sixaxis control is just a cheap knock off of the wii remote
Nintendo didn't invent motion control.
Nintendo did NOT invent motion control, but they excel at honing and perfecting the user experience, much like Apple. You have to give them credit for that.
The thing is about abandoning hardcore gamers, is that the industry is ignoring the customer base that started the game industry...
Are they really abandoning us though? I would like to see it as more of an expansion to the market.
EXACTLY! It would be like someone giving you a million dollars.. then going broke.. and when they ask you for 20 bucks you tell them to f*ck off.. lol.. I think that's kind of what Nintendo did.. Don't get me wrong.. I love my Wii.. but Nintendo has pushed the hardcore, Mario dressing fans aside.
That seems a bit harsh if you ask me... it looks like they are being pretty successful with whatever they try to do.
@Grundman: maybe "abandoning" is a strong word, but the emphasis is going away, which actually might be a good thing. Instead of the market being flooded with mediocre hardcore games, there might be a trickle of excellent hardcore games, which is a very, very good thing.
If they can make the hardcore games still then i suppose it would be ok
A bit harsh? Sure.. But so is what Nintendo has done. They've flooded the market with a ton of crap that most gamers just don't want.. This is why I have a ton of games between my PS3 and Xbox360, yet only a handful on my Wii.. There just aren't enough good games for it..
It's kind of like being an only child and then your parents have another baby. All of a sudden you have to share their attention with your new sibling. You're not being abandoned, you're being shared. That's just the way it is.
The gaming industry was actually very casual even in the early days.. Sure most people did not play every game but people off all ages played Pacman, Digdug,Space invaders, Asteroids, etc. My grandmother loved Frogger. I dont understand why some people just assume that games have always been for the hardcore when that's just not the case. The only reason I can think of is because you are too young to know what it was like back then. There were certain games back then that every one was playing.Regardless of age, profession, sex. @crapleton, You do understand that 90% of the games you claim are hurting the industry are also available on the PS2? Why is it ok for Sony to allow those games but it isnt ok for Nintendo to allow those games... It really makes no sense at all. If those types of games bothered you why are you a PS gamer? The PS1 and PS2 libraries are full of complete garbage just like the Wii is. They didnt seem to hurt the industry as you claim Nintendo is doing..
"EXACTLY! It would be like someone giving you a million dollars.. then going broke.. and when they ask you for 20 bucks you tell them to f*ck off" That comparison is not apt: No one simply "gives" money to companies. Transactions are *always* a two-way street. A more valid illustration would be someone giving you a million dollars, and in return you give them a million dollars worth of videogames. Nintendo is under no obligation to give them a million dollars worth of videogames *and* twenty dollars to boot. "They've flooded the market with a ton of crap that most gamers just don't want.." Um, how does a product sell well if people don't want it?
I think that the new interoperability with the internet is nothing new. Bungie.net has been doing it for years...
Which platform is going to see the most growth in the area of casual games, Xbox 360, PS3 or iPhone? Wii isn't even up for discussion because they have a corner on that market.
For sure I would have to say the iPhone
Why do you guys say iPhone? I would have figured one of the consoles because of the existing install base.
It's going to be the iPhone. I think we've only seen the tip of the iceberg of what is to come with the iPhone. It's probably *the* mobile gaming platform of the future.
Looks like I will have to go back to reading books. Oh well, it was good while it lasted.
There aren't many hardcore games on the Xbox anyways. I can think of some, like Ninja Gaiden. GTA4 and Halo 3 are like the most casual "hardcore" games anyways.
Once upon a time (post Atari meltdown) Nintendo saved Gaming after it was destroyed by greedy developers releasing subpar games, so I suppose it is rather ironic that they now spearhead a movement that might one day lead to the same type of meltdown. Although gaming is going very strong today, if all three developers followed Nintendo's lead and started flooding the market with casual and poorly made games it could happen. Let's just hope that the casuals get bored soon and go back to their cubby holes and reality programming.
Bubbles to you!
I think Ubisoft is more to blame than Nintendo. At least Nintendo tries to make quality casual products (ignoring Wii Music, of course). Ubisoft craps out more casual crap than all other companies combined. It is them and Popcorn Arcade that are ruining gaming. Oh, and stupid uninformed parents.
This article is ludicrous. Just because one CEO spouted numbers at a bunch of game companies doesn't mean hardcore gaming will ever die. Hardcore games still turn qa massive profit. Casual gaming will become a secondary market but what casual gaming will find is those people are less likely to amass a large game collection. I just want to bith slap all those stupid mofos who bought carnival games and made devs think it's okay to sell crap for the wii.
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