Excluding Nintendo, Microsoft and clearly won 2008 by delivering Blockbusters like Gears of War 2 and Fable 2. But how can continue this success?
i agree ms is gonna surpise people in 09 they won 08 well sales wise hardware wise wii is the king
I hope they don't wait till E3 to reveal their fall lineup. Next year will be fine for Microsoft, I mean, they do have a new Halo game coming out. I just want a new Killer Instinct.
3 Reasons why New 4 gamers Should have an editorial section or be renamed to Editorials for Gamers... -Blog post are posted as Articles. -Opinions is not news. -Editorials are not on the Front pages of News papers for nothing.
arcade will be $99 by christmas
MS never discusses the next year of games during the holiday season. They want buyers to be focused on the "now". They did the same thing last year. I'm sure they will have tons of new announcements soon;)
"Microsoft and clearly won 2008 by delivering Blockbusters like Gears of War 2 and Fable 2" only?? ps3 have 1: MGS4 2: LBP 3: R2 4: VK(sega RPG) 5: blue ray player so why not ps3 won 2008? who sold more in 2008?? i dare any one will say 360 and provide me proof! i really will feel petty for MS when ps3 goes to 299$ early next year!! who will save them?? what r they going to do to counter KillZone 2??
I'm not a fanboy by any means but the Xbox 360 did piss poor this year with quality titles, it might have sold more consoles but honestly it was a big wait till November for Gears of War 2.
The linked article is titled as "3 Reasons Why Xbox will loose 2009". I don't know how stuff like this gets approved?
this is unjustified Here are the sales figures of 2008 (according to vgcharts)(which some people think overestimate 360 and underestimate ps3) Console PS3 Total 8,709,255 Console X360 Total 8,369,774 (Ps sorry if this comes through twice browser crashed first time i tried)
Its all about E3 09 I believe, at least in my books. I support my 360, but any person can see that the PS3 has some great exclusives in 09, unless your just an ignorant idiot.
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But its obvious that exclusives aren't as important as people seem to think. Its good to have them, but despite the quality of most of Sony's exclusive games, they are hardly making a dent for the hardware/software sales for the PS3. You have to give Sony credit. Their first party games now are miles ahead of the stuff they had in the early PS1 days. But gamers just don't really seem to care about them, or are just slowly buying them over a long period.
True, but the only games I care about are the ones I care about, and quite a few of the Ps3 09 titles look promising to me. Regardless, I still see Alan Wake and Mafia 2 as my most anticipated titles, the latter being multi-plat of course.
can't wait ms gonna is prevail and do the same thing this year with awesome games.Incoming sonylocust five o clock ms games can't compare with blah blah blah man ms is gonna own 09 just like the did this year.
Was it really necessary to post in Gamer and Open Zone? And dude, I support my 360, but 09 doesn't look that great so far. I hate halo so I don't give a damn about that. The only exclusive I'm looking forward to is Alan Wake.
Double the attention ;)
I don't like crystal balling like this. They don't know more than the rest of us. Just wait and see what happens.
i love microsfot stratigy on reelaseing games make suprise announcements leading to the game being released in the same year that what i love about ms they annouce games 6 months later the game is relased .
sure the ps3 has great games we all know that.. the problem is that these great games dont go any farther then the store shelf..
And? Sales have nothing to do with how good a game is, It's an irrelevant factor, only relevant when speaking in terms of sequels and whatnot. I don't care if Max Payne 2 on PC didn't sell that well, the game was still awesome regardless.
as you said, if first game doesn't sell too well, then a sequel for the great game won't come out. Its important that Games like LBP, Uncharted, and Resistance (plus others) sell well. Otherwise they will be forgotten, missed opportunities. Many promising franchises have gone missing due to poor sales. This is why we probably won't see a sequel for Psychonauts. Good games need to sell. And whether its due to advertising or whatever, someone needs to do something to get these things out in the hands and minds of gamers.
I understand what you mean, But I'm sick of this new mindset about how if a game doesn't sell well people start calling it a flop. perhaps a flop regarding its sales, but the games are not. Ah well, don't let the fanboys get to you.
that the gaming public that we can't get through to (the fankids) are long gone, and hard as it is to do, we must try to ignore them. We all have a little bit of fanboy in us, but there are just some that take it to unreasonable extremes.
Well said. I come close to replying to some of the fanboys in Open zone, but when I think about it I don't want to put myself through it because each of them is a stubborn bastard who won't listen to reason. Glad to see there is some intelligent people here, bubbles.
"sure the ps3 has great games we all know that.. the problem is that these great games dont go any farther then the store shelf.. " Honestly to me, it really doesn't matter how fast the games sell on the PS3, as long as the PS3 has a continuous stream of quality exclusives, that's all that matters to me. The PS3 has plenty a couple of system sellers for 2009, and I'm confident that games like Killzone 2, Final Fantasy XIII in Japan, and Gran Turismo 5 in Europe and Japan will move some serious PS3 hardware. I'm not sure if God of War 3 will move systems or not, but even if it doesn't God of War 3 is a highly anticipated game and it's a very strong title. Right now at this point, I really don't forsee that many Xbox 360 system sellers because Microsoft has already released Halo 3 and Gears 1 and 2. Sony on the other hand has just released several of the games in their main catalog. I don't see Halo Wars or Halo 3 Recon really being a system seller because Halo fans already have Xbox 360's, GTA4's release didn't really move significant systems for either the PS3 or 360 in April and I highly doubt that GTA4 DLC will move 360 hardware. If Mass Effect 2 doesn't come to the PS3, then I think that it will be a huge game for the 360 in 09', and the same thing goes for Splinter Cell Conviction and Alan Wake if they both come out in 2009, but other than that, that's pretty much the strongest potential games that the 360 has for 2009 to me.
Uncharted started with ~200k first week, and NOW in it`s 1st year - over 2 mln. copies sold. =) Motorstorm: Pacific Rift - started with average sales first week(since many games were released in that period), yet in 5 weeks already passed 1 mln. copies. http://www.gamesindustry.bi...
And Gears passed them both in under a month... =0
1. That fact doesn`t ruin my GAMEPLAY. 2. 1 game cheaper to buy than 2, and motorstorm did 1 mln. also in 1 month, though this game is NOT a TPS. =) 3. PS3 owners had more AA(80-95% on GR) exclusives(Resistance 2, Motorstorm: PR, LBP, Valkyria Chronicles, Naruto:UNS) available to buy this Autumn, then x360 owners.
"Microsoft and clearly won 2008 by delivering Blockbusters like Gears of War 2 and Fable 2." Fail.
So that haven't really won 2008. But those two games were blockbusters though.
i think ms has some major news in e3 09 to shut up these sony fanatics. no games for the 360 in 09? lmfao, ok we will see about that.. micro is known for only talking about games that are 6 months away. they are not like sony that announce games that dont have an oficial name yet.. "mag".. but micro is about to change that in 09 just to shut you all up..
You might want to read the rules concerning the gamer zone...
from what I've been seeing lately, the rules no longer apply on here. Little kids are running rampant on this site, and the mods just sit back and enjoy the entertainment, if that's what you want to call it. The gamer zone is full of trolls and fanboys now, and nobody cares to stop it.
Halo Wars, Alan Wake, Halo:ODST + 20 other games that haven't been announced yet.
That's because if they deleted all the trolls and "fanboys" we'd be down to a handful of people.
I don't think a handful would cover the amount of members that would be left :P Prolly can count the remaining ones on 1 hand
this article is not worth being on this site. It's some gamers blog and he can't even write or spell well. Makes his arguments less valid in my opinion. With that out of the way, I don't believe for one minute that Sony is going to run away with 09. Nor do I believe the 360 will run away with it. Things are going to get tighter between the two and with neither console performing horrible in sales or game quality, we all win. There are no console losers this generation whether they be in first, second, or third place. Sale3s are too good all around.
"his article is not worth being on this site. It's some gamers blog and he can't even write or spell well. Makes his arguments less valid in my opinion." Exactly, i cant believe no has mentioned this yet, this article/blog reads like it was written by a 10 year old and IF it was written by an adult please, go back to school, you have bigger problems to worry about the 360s 09 success can wait
Agreed. 360 had the best lineup suited for the hardcore audience in 08 yet ''everyone'' predicted their, lol, demise during the end of 07. Obviously they will announce another great lineup @ GDC just like they did last year. Wii will be useless just like in 08 while most ps3 games will get delayed although I hope Im wrong. 360 is getting almost as good as the ps2 was
now i got to go to school aww
"but how can continue this success" Who wrote this? A little boy? And what did Microsoft win...clearly? Excluding Nintendo? Anybody can be declared winner when you exclude the winner. This is just ridiculous. Who's running this site? A little boy?
Can't wait to see what MS will do in 2009. One year at a time is the motto.
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Bubbles for that.
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Isn't this the same "blog" that gave 3 reasons why Microsoft will Lose in 2009? This is a joke. I guess he must have changed his mind, LOL. It's obvious that the people that write this aren't professionals, just random gamers on the net with a site. "1. Microsoft Hasn't Announced Anything" I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing... the only thing that Microsoft has really shown off for 09' is Ninja Blade. The development for Alan Wake has been pretty quiet, and since the new trailer came out, there's been nothing else. Killzone 2 was announced the same year that Alan Wake was, but KZ2 is just 2 months away from release. If I were a 360 owner, I would want to know what games were on the horizon, but now it's like 2009 is just up in the air for the 360 to me. For now, the PS3 has the strongest 09' lineup, I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the heck Microsoft is going to do. "2. Continue To Rally Third Parties" Microsoft has already Rallied Third parties and Exclusive DLC doesn't sell systems. Metal Gear Solid 4 is staying a PS3 exclusive and if anyone needs more proof: http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... "Pressed on MGS4's exclusivity and the possibility of an Xbox 360 port, Kojima reiterated that the PS3 had been chosen because he believed that the series' success had been entwined with PlayStation's, and admitted that "because MGS4 was optimised for the PS3 it is probably not possible".
And MS has already shown how they treat great studios. Ensemble anyone? With Gears of War 2 coming to the PS3 Microsoft will need something huge to stop people from moving on.
I don't think GeoW2 will come to PS3, but to me the biggest sign of trouble for MS was the fact that Peter Moore, the head of Xbox division LEFT THE COMPANY. People who work in corporate world know that you don't just leave a job like that if things are good.
I didn't think it would either but Epic already has it up and running on the PS3 and are bug hunting it as well. Everyone with access to the Unreal Developer's Network has seen the cold hard evidence if they looked in the right place. Hell if you know where to dig on Epic's server you will find files left completely in the wrong place that discuss the PS3 development. Add to that the fact that a sticky on the internal developer forums says "Do not ask for copies of Gears of War 2 on the PS3. We are only sending out copies of titles that have already shipped to retail." In 2009 I will have a huge I told you so moment on this website.
But even if this was the case, I doubt they would do a good job porting it. I don't have a 360, so I played the first GeoW on PC and it took two weeks of combing the internet for solutions to get the game to run right, so I don't have confidence that they would do any better on PS3.
i DONT KNOW HOW BLIND YOU COULD BE.....Just look at where PlayStation was at last year and look at where ms was last year...obviously PlayStation is in a better position...even the games were better
No one is saying that this year was not better for Playstation... they did a lot better than they did last year... and the year before that when PS3 owners only had blu-ray movies to watch... The question is if they did better than the xbox 360 and therefore declaring 2008, "The year of the PS3" as many Sony fans guaranteed it was going to be... Now, this is not that difficult to determine... Lots of people in this site would argue that the PS3 had a better line-up in 2008 than the xbox 360... again that can easily be problem by what the mainstream think... Compare PS3 exclusive to xbox 360 exclusives and see which one sold better... did LBP sold as much as people thought? Did resistance beat Gears 2? In 2009 Sony have another high profile title, "Kill Zone 2"... let's see how well it does compare to Halo Recon... let's hope it does not do as bad as LBP in terms of sales.
of course the games this year were better........I mean going from 0 to 1 is better. I am sorry...as an owner of all three consoles, I could not help but to make that statement. The ps3 was not doing all that much the year before...so it was really not that hard to improve on it the following year.
Blade, dude, honestly the PS3 did way better as far as quality titles went this year. I own Both system (I don't count the Wii) and it was a big wait till November.
Sorry Bladestar, I didn't realise my gaming enjoyment was dictated by total sales numbers. Thanks for straightening that out for me! Perhaps reviewers should stop giving games scores and instead just list sales figures as the measure of quality! I really thought I preferred Fallout 3 to Fable 2, but I think I need to go and check the sales figures so I know which one was really the best! /sarcasm
LMAO So taking 2nd place is winning now? I guess it can be, if you ignore the guys who get #1...lol, looser mentality... Oh, btw, I didn't know 2008 was over already. AFAIK, the biggest month of the 'gaming year' (sales wise) is yet to be over I think.
If you are only on your 2nd console and are continuing to gain more ground in the video game market. Yes...that would be consider winning. Because even though you are in competition with other companies.....the amount of money you are bringing in can help define a win for you.
Just listen to ur selves, when are you gonna come to ur senses and realise that the Xbox is frigging finished. You all live on another planet. The Xbox has only got 1 ok game Alan Wake which to be honest isnt 100% exclusive its on PC as well so it will be a port to the Xbox. All people who own an Xbox are so stubborn, you go on and on about how good Xbox live is. I dont have any problems with my ps3 online. The reason why people support the Xbox is because you cant afford a PS3. I mean surely anyone in there right mind would rather have a DB7 over a Jag any day?? Sonys on the up and silly microwilly cant do anything about it!!!
History... don't you get tired of saying the same crap? Remember comments like, "Microsoft have nothing in 2008... but Gears 2... and Sony has LBP and bla bla bla"... and even Fable 2 is killing little big planet in terms of sells... you did the same the year the PS3 came out... and last year... Sony is cutting 16,000 jobs soon... they are unable to drop the price... Microsoft on the other hand have plenty of cash... what make you think 2009, "The year of the recession." they will do any better... because of Kill Zone 2? If you think that Kill Zone 2 will be able to compete against Halo Recon and COD Modern Combat 2... you are in for a 3rd disappointment..
In terms of "sells"? Why not in terms of quality? 16k jobs? The official figures say 8k, not from some random blog. In terms of QUALITY, the only thing that matters to the gamer, then I'd put money on KZ2 wiping the floor with Halo Recon and MW2.
is those who bought an xbox 360 launch consoles did so because they looked into the future and knew they would not be able to own a ps3 a year later. And that despite the 360 having at least a 6 game ($360) attachment rate or higher and paying for live they are unable to afford a ps3? So $399 (premium launch unit) + $360 (6 games) + $80-$100 (Live) does not equal enough to afford a $399 to $499 ps3? Well.........that makes sense to me.
Only PS3tards think that year 2009 will belong to SOny.. but they also said that in 2007 and 2008, and at the end the patch3 got destroyed. NOW, cause Sony is like general Motors, nearly bankrupt (forbes), MS will throw their china [email protected] Sony and give them the rest. For all ps3 boys who still cant decide to get a 360. believe me, sell your pos3 fpr 299 and get a x360 starting at 199 USD.
Nobody said that in 2007, not fanboys, not sony Sony did say 2008 was their year, and it was, who had the most highest rated exlusives? sony. and thats what matters to me and you, the quality of games, leave sales for microsoft and sony to worry about.
Advertising is what made Microsoft win 08 over Sony. The games helped them, although Sony had far more quality titles to back them up.
Microsoft will own 2009, because they haven't announced anything vs. Sony which has announced a boatload of great titles. riiiiight...
1 Reason Microsoft Will Prevail In 2009 PRICE. So far for 09' Sony has the game line-up and Nintendo has the iPod-type thing going.
Their first party games are kind of irrelevant now, multiplat is what everyone is doing, I mean COD5 probably outsold Gears Of War 2 by a good margin, and Fallout 3 Fable 2 by a pretty big margin, in either case, GTA4 selling more than all of their first party games combined more than likely, they probably didn't make a year end profit either. So my point being, Nintendo and the 3rd parties won, they don't even really have a Gears Of War 2 of Fable 2 for next year, outside of mayble Halo ODST or w/e, meaning even more losses. Same goes for Sony, they lose even more than Microsoft does.
well i bought the 160gb ps3 to add to my 360 and thats been used the most lately,to many good games out and coming out not to own a ps3 as well,as of exclusives ms has some dlc,gtaiv,tomb raider alan wake lucks promising but so did too human and that was sh*t,sony kicks off with killzone and any 360 owner knows 32 players on line graphics and game play as good as that can,t be done on live period.this is what i,m loving about the ps3 it just gives you a total different gaming experience.example gears 10 player online, resistance 2 60 players online both great games but resistance kills it on line in the fun factor.both consoles have some great games but does any 360 owner ask wheres the big,big games next year coming from.i,m not saying there won,t be,but i,m yet to see them