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Pachter: Wii hit 1.4 million in November, 360 outsold PS3 2:1

Wedbush Morgan's Michael Pachter just put out his US sales estimates for November, predicting a landslide victory for Wii.

"We estimate sell-through of 1,400,000 Wii, 800,000 Xbox 360 and 400,000 PS3 consoles," he said.

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George Sears3290d ago

Wow Wii is kicking some @$$ and the new price drop for the 360 is doing wonders for MS this holiday season, Sony is getting mutilated thanks to there price once again...

"Brother, I'm a whole different game from Liquid."

Lifendz3290d ago

lol. I'll wait for the NPDs.

Captain_Sony3290d ago

Why wait? The numbers may be off, but the order in which the consoles are listed will be the same. Wii first,PS3 last.

Lifendz3290d ago

I don't know if you guys are used to talking to fanboys or if you just are fanboys.

So Capt, you mean to tell me that it's not a shock that a system appealing to the casuals would sell the most followed by a system that's 200 bucks cheaper than it's competition? Wow. You should have your own predictions article.

I'm well aware that Sony will probably sell the least of the three. That was not my point. The numbers are what I was aiming at.

Sheesh.

Lifendz3290d ago

lol. So sayeth the person with so much knowledge about Sony's internal financial structure or goals. I think that if the PS3 is only outsold 2x1 whilst being 200 bucks more expensive than 360 AND while the country (USA) is in a recession, then hey...it's not that bad. In fact, maybe not bad at all.

Xbox Street Gang3290d ago (Edited 3290d ago )

/08

PS3= $399.99/ 400k units sold

360= $199.99/ 800k units sold

/09

PS3= $299.99/ 1.2million units sold

360= $199.99/ 600k units sold

Makes sense to me...

edit: doesn't make sense to y'all?

PimpHandHappy3290d ago

your wrong

PS2 will be in last

Marceles3290d ago (Edited 3290d ago )

"Reviews and opinions on "quality" mean sh!t if your not actually going to spend your money to actually play the game"

I gotta partly agree with Omega. There's alot of fanboys that come and cheer on the system that they own and say "yay AAA!" and all that other BS...but support and buy the damn game too if you like it so much and appreciate the effort the devs gave for the game. I know some people might complain about money, but the same could be said about music that's easily downloadable for free...if you truly like the album then buy it and give the artist their props.

On the other hand, it seems like quality doesn't even matter this gen anymore since flawed games totally have been getting overlooked while great games get looked at with a microscoped and journalists just make something up and convince other people to not buy a product without even trying it out first (even you can agree with this). "They said the game runs at 59fps so I wont be buying it"...have you played it? That 1 second of frame loss is really going to mess up your gaming experience?? So AAA, exclusive, DLC, resolution, frametear, anti-aliasing: so many factors have scrambled the meaning of the word quality that fun factor is thrown out the window.

The Lazy One3290d ago

it's usually around the 14th, but anyone know the actual date?

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pp3290d ago

Hahahahha Sony is getting b*tch slapped by 2 awesome consoles.

360 man3290d ago

yes they certainly are

PimpHandHappy3290d ago

thats really dam good PP

unless you think the 360 sold 800,000 Elites!!!!!!!!

we both know thats not true

they sold 600,000 arcade with 200,000 pro's

anyway
funny to think how involed PP and other polesmokingfanboys are when it comes to sales. If the PS3 was selling at 199 it would have sales higher then the Wii

i guess MS lied again huh PP?!?!?! Thats no 3:1

Thats really impressive for Sony. 200,000 a month is the bench mark for a good month! 360 didnt see 200,000 till they started selling at 199!

hahahahahahaha

Man this game is going to be over when Sony drops the PS3 to $300!

Firstkn1ghT3290d ago

What fancies me is that LBP and Resistance 2 didn't even create a dent in the overall lead of the 360. Not only that but the 360 is having the best sales ever. Oh well I guess sony fans have to start naming games from next year that supposedly will crush the 360.

Lifendz3290d ago

it's only the prediction of a guy that's wrong 90% of the time.

SWORDF1SH3290d ago

you have shares with microsoft, right?

Omega43290d ago

"Oh well I guess sony fans have to start naming games from next year that supposedly will crush the 360"

Yep im think a feel a bit of deja vu coming on lol

Pennywise3290d ago

The 360 can crush the PS3 in sales, but it can NEVER crush the PS3 in quality and exclusives.... So you just keep watching the numbers. Oh and speaking of numbers, keep track of the multiple discs you get with certain games. Keep track of the number of dollars you spend for playing games online too. I am so sick of you and people like you.

ultimolu3290d ago (Edited 3290d ago )

Knight...does sales make a game great?

Answer this question, if you're man enough to answer it.

You have been picking on Little Big Planet since day one...and I do mean day one.

That's very cowardly on your part.

Disagrees, nice. The best defense is disagrees instead of answering the question directly.

Omega43290d ago

"does sales make a game great?"

Well sales do make a game great actually because they are a clear indication that poeple want to play it. Sure games like Wii Fit sell a lot and YOU may not think its great but the millions of grannies and grandads are enjoying it and isnt that enough to make it great?

LBP may of reviewed well which makes a lot of the gaming community see it as a great game but the fact that barely anyone brought it shows that its not as appealing as reviews state which makes it not so great after all

Just remember:
Reviews = opinion
Sales = Solid evidence of what people WANT to play

ultimolu3290d ago

"Well sales do make a game great actually because they are a clear indication that poeple want to play it. Sure games like Wii Fit sell a lot and YOU may not think its great but the millions of grannies and grandads are enjoying it and isnt that enough to make it great?"

No, a great game is when the person experiences the game for themselves and enjoy it instead of worrying about sales. Little Big Planet will sell overtime. That doesn't make the game a flop.

"LBP may of reviewed well which makes a lot of the gaming community see it as a great game but the fact that barely anyone brought it shows that its not as appealing as reviews state which makes it not so great after all"

Barely anyone bought it? So you're implying that only ten people bought it? I'm pretty sure the game is approaching a million sales, which isn't bad for a new IP from a developer that's barely known in the gaming industry. Once again, can someone show me a game that Media Molecule has done besides Little Big Planet?

"Just remember:
Reviews = opinion
Sales = Solid evidence of what people WANT to play"

...No

Reviews=Opinions
Sales= Does not matter to someone if they've played it and it's a great game.

Omega43290d ago

"No, a great game is when the person experiences the game for themselves and enjoy"
And the only way they can do that is by.........you guessed it (or maybe not) BUYING IT!!!!

So now your blaming LBP sales on MM not being a big company lol, personally i would of thought that the fact that it was published by Sony was enough to make it famous but clearly i was wrong.

Also you bring in the fact thats its a new IP, what about Gears of War then eh?

green3290d ago (Edited 3290d ago )

Well actually omega4 does make a good point.Lets take Matrix the movie as an example, that movie was torn apart by movie critics but what happened?The movie was released to garner much praise from consumers.

So now should we listen to the consumers that loved the movie? or the so called industry professionals that tore the movie apart?At the end of the day, it just leads credence to the notion that reviews are just an opinion and it's up to you to agree with it or not but at the end of the day it is not fact.

EDIT: Juuken how is my example horrible?Would you care to elaborate,enlighten or educate me a bit more on the subject matter.

ultimolu3290d ago (Edited 3290d ago )

People like you Omega give me a headache. Let me explain this in words even a baby can understand.

This is the first game Media Molecule has *ever* done and for their first game, they did a pretty good job despite the delays. You know, your buddies don't like hearing logical comments so they slam disagree buttons as if it's going to make a difference or something.

Gears of War is a third person shooter. Little Big Planet is not. Little Big Planet is a platformer. Gears of War is not.

Once again, sales do not make a game great. The quality is what makes a game great.

I don't know why you 360 fans are so worried about LBP sales when a couple of overzealous PS3 fans said it would sell well.

green: That's a horrible example to begin with. Little Big Planet is still selling. The sales haven't stopped. I'll go as far as to say that the delay did hurt sales and people are most likely waiting until Christmas to buy the game.

But whatever. My comments mean nothing, does it?

Sircolby453290d ago

"Once again, sales do not make a game great."

They don't make it great. They show that it is great. If the game is great it will sell well. If it sucks nobody is going to buy it. Is this concept to difficult for you Stansfield?

ultimolu3290d ago (Edited 3290d ago )

"They don't make it great. They show that it is great. If the game is great it will sell well. If it sucks nobody is going to buy it. Is this concept to difficult for you Stansfield?"

And it will sell well overtime. Is that hard to understand? Or are you one of those people who thought it will sell a million in one day and then scream flop when it didn't?

And the name calling is unnecessary.

Omega43290d ago (Edited 3290d ago )

"Once again, sales do not make a game great. The quality is what makes a game great."

What is "quality" though?? seriously! Its just an opinion nothing more, how do you not understand that!!!

What you see as quality someone else could see as utter crap, sales on the other hand are a CLEAR AND SOLID indication that the game is great

Reviews and opinions on "quality" mean sh!t if your not actually going to spend your money to actually play the game

EDIT: "And it will sell well overtime"

http://www.computerandvideo...

"but a delayed release set in motion a trail of disaster that most recently saw the game enter the chart at No4, before slipping to No19, then No24, and most recently No32. A clear game of the year contender and the best PS3 game yet, we reckon, but not performing like the system seller Sony was hoping for".

Sell well over time?? Doesnt look that way

ultimolu3290d ago (Edited 3290d ago )

"What is "quality" though?? seriously! Its just an opinion nothing more, how do you not understand that!!!"

What the hell are you talking about? IMO I think LBP is a quality game. I have seen many people play this game on a daily basis whenever I play it. Quality, to me is when someone puts time and effort into making the game what it is. I'm sure people would agree with me on this.

"What you see as quality someone else could see as utter crap, sales on the other hand are a CLEAR AND SOLID indication that the game is great"

Congratulations Omega, you missed my point. Read above before you have a heartattack.

"Reviews and opinions on "quality" mean sh!t if your not actually going to spend your money to actually play the game"

You once again have no idea what you're talking about. You completely missed the point I was trying to make.

Why should sales matter to someone who has the game and *is* playing it if they're enjoying it?

Amswer that question Omega.

Because, you know...I think you really wanted this game to fail.

...And I stand corrected. You honestly wanted the game to fail. That link means nothing to me because 1. You're not taking into account sales overall, and 2. Even a game like Halo 3 is still selling. What makes you think LBP won't sell overtime?

You know what?

I'm done with this.

LBP IS A FLOP.

Happy now?

Because that's what you obviously wanted to hear.

Real Gambler3290d ago

And all you can say is LBP is not selling well??? Read the article! The Wii is wipping both consoles! The 360 is cheaper than the Wii and cannot even outsell it in the U.S.A!!! Now, that's what I call a major problem. Not the fact that one game doesn't sell on one console...

SWORDF1SH3290d ago

sales do not indicate a quality game. if sales did indicate a quality game then all the rubbish movies licened games would be 10/10 games. ive bought plenty of games that are rubbish and by your logic i made that game a little bit more better because i bought it. look at all the shovelware games on the wii that sell hundreds of thousands and are coplete and utter toss. anyway as for little big planet, the ps3 is at the wrong price point for it to sell well. if the ps3 was sellin for lower then the ps3 would have more of the casual crowd playin their system and lbp would appeal to them. even thou lbp isnt just a game for casual gamer, sony have marketed it as a casual game. lbp will pick up a little bit when ps3 as more of a casual crowd when it hits the £200 mark.

DarthTigra 3290d ago (Edited 3290d ago )

This whole lbp not selling thing is ridiculous. There is a level that 900 thousand people have played,and not everyone with the game has played that level and everyone with the game dosnt have an internet connection. I mean the game is a new ip,a casual game(from a certain point of view) on a system that cost 400 dollars and hasn't even been out for two months. How fast do you expect it to sell lol.

The Lazy One3290d ago

If a game sells really well, it is probably a great game. Look at games that sell over 1 million copies, and only a few of them aren't really that good. (I don't think any movie games have sold that well...)

That said, a game that doesn't sell well can still be considered great. Phantom Dust was one of the best games released on the Xbox, and is one of the only original xbox titles i'd still go back and play (I would a lot more if I had my old saves). I don't know many people who were really upset with the way that game played. It had pretty crappy sales after it had it's price upped from 25 to 50 bucks (sold really well at 25). I don't think it ever broke into the top 20 maybe not even 50.

Still a great game.

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Kouzmich3290d ago (Edited 3290d ago )

Toys will sell more all the time.

Edit: Well thats is my opinion and only mine. I'm 24 and just don't see myself playing Wii.

Captain_Sony3290d ago (Edited 3290d ago )

Only Sony fanboys can be so clueless they can say that and actually feel they have said something valid... They are all toys...I dont know which is more pathetic. You being so stupid you acutally feel you have a valid point or you not being banned to the open zone because some mod feels you have a valid point..Of course the saddest part is how you SDF guys are still trying to defend the PS3 with such lame excuses..

Xbox Street Gang3290d ago (Edited 3290d ago )

Yeah. Because any compelling software came out for the wii in Nov...

>_>

butterfinger3290d ago

Captain Sony, I find it hilarious that you are calling people names and using a clearly fanboy-inspired name while telling people that share their opinions that they should be banned to the open zone. Must all of the people that disagree with you be banned to the open zone where you belong?

Captain_Sony3290d ago

Butterfinger, All I got out of your wasted post was "Blah blah blah cry cry cry." I didnt call anyone "names" What I called the guy who said only 1 was a toy was stupid. I know in your bias fanboy attitude you think only 1 is a toy but anyone who is unbias will admit that all consoles are toys.. Funny thing is how you Sony fans always want to be 1 sided and you think it makes you a gamer to hate anything that isnt Sony, but if someone can give credit to the other 2 consoles then they must be a fanboy.. You and many of the other Sony fanboys around this site have no clue what a fanboy is.It doesnt take a fanboy to see Sony is in last place. It doesnt take a fanboy to see that all consoles have their good and bad points. Its only fanboys that act the way you do and get their panties in a twist because someone can clearly see the facts that you and your fanboy mentaility refuse to see.

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360 man3290d ago (Edited 3290d ago )

the problem aint the fact that 360 doubled the ps3, the problem is the fact that all of these ps3 fanboys were talkin so much trash.

so much trash that the ps3 was gonna own 360 and that gears2 and fable2 cant save the 360 from the impending doom that lbp and r2 was gonna bring upon them.

i bet 70% of these so called fanboys didnt even buy the games and support their console

Xbox Street Gang3290d ago (Edited 3290d ago )

The problem with Microsoft is that they are not consistent enough to extend this lead they have. It would do wonders with their third-party support and abysmal 09 line up. Sony is still doing so well that they feel comfortable in the position they are in and feel no need to drop the price anytime soon. No company SHOULD ever feel comfortable in last place. Yet Sony is sipping champagne and laughing...

Why? 09 comes and Sony is rumored to drop the price of the PS3 in March. They'll be breaking even and selling more or the same as the 360 is selling per month. All the while, getting excellent third-party support because they are selling so well and they'll be breaking even on the PS3.

HAHAHAHAHAHA *sips champagne*

http://www.dpadmagazine.com... price cut in march. This leak was right about new GOW3 and Uncharted 2 footage.

@tatotiburon: You mean...like this year..?

http://www.1up.com/do/newsS...
http://www.1up.com/do/newsS...
http://www.joystiq.com/2008...
http://blogs.pcworld.com/ga...
http://www.i4u.com/article1...
http://gamer.blorge.com/200...
http://www.psu.com/PS3-outs...
http://www.actiontrip.com/r...

tatotiburon3290d ago

once again "wait till next year"

tatotiburon3290d ago

yes like this year

http://www.qj.net/NPD-US-Wi...
http://www.joystiq.com/2008...
http://vgsales.wikia.com/wi...
http://www.gamasutra.com/ph...
http://www.electricpig.co.u...
http://www.electricpig.co.u...

and just waiting for november and december results, 5 months in the lead and holiday season, the most important, already in microsoft pocket...and that just harware, xbox 360 games outselling everything

Real Gambler3290d ago

What a nickname... 360 means: I have only one console and I stand by it and man: I'm truly a kid, but thanks to the web, I can say I'm a man!

"the problem aint the fact that 360 doubled the ps3, the problem is the fact that all of these ps3 fanboys were talkin so much trash."

Now read the article again... There's nothing said about fanboys. It's all about the Wii outselling both next gen consoles in the U.S. You're a 360_man, so please, instead of talking about fanboys, just tell us why the Wii, while being more expensive than the 360, is still outselling it (and the PS3 all together). That's what the article is about. Not some rant about fanboys. Trust me, you should read it and you would have said:

"the problem aint the fact that 360 doubled the ps3, the problem is the fact that the Wii is outselling BOTH consoles in the U.S."

See, much smarter reply, and it's all about what is said in the article.

The Lazy One3290d ago

So wait... Sony is consistent? ... consistently delayed?

360 man3290d ago (Edited 3290d ago )

@ real gambler

i like the way you changed the phrasing of the subject to make wii the main focus, whilst easing attention off the real HD battle that is taking place between the ps3 and xbox 360.

the fact that you could have been one of those fanboys stating how the ps3 will be dominant thin fall is highly probable

AWBrawler3289d ago

The first Animal Crossing Sold pretty good from day one. It was an unknown too, so Whats LBP's excuse now? Even Phoenix Wright on DS sold better and who ever heard of a lawyer genre prior to that?

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