Sony Computer Entertainment America issued a press release today announcing that since the release of the PlayStation 3, with more than two million units shipped worldwide, Blu-ray Disc has experienced "tremendous growth in consumer adoption."
I trust Sony a 100%. Can anyone say that without being a compulsive liar?
Its the main stream consumers who will crown the winner in this battle!! when will sony just STFU instead of constantly shooting themselves in the foot!!!
If you read the article properly, you'll see that Sony only said that it had "tremendous growth in consumer adoption." that's it.(it has the numbers to back up that statement) It says nothing about a crown, king or anything pertaining to the title of this story. This crown/king statement was given by TeamXbox.
Did they mean PS3? You see that's the problem. Sony it's always hidding the details. I'm not deniying that blu-ray is on top; honesly I can careless, I'm not resistant to buy into blu-ray when it goes under $150. That's why I bough an HDDVD drive since i can use it for my 360 or PC. But, since the PS3 is not primarily a movie player; lots of people got it to play games and will not pay that much for a movie when they can buy a game. Also, every PS3 comes with a movie which Sony is using to show (on paper) have many blu-ray movies are being shipped(in total); this includes the one that comes with the PS3.
Sony packed in a Blu-Ray movie with the first 500k shipped PS3's and the promotion ended in the middle of December. The quoted numbers are from January - well after the promotion ended.
Today, because of PS3, there are more installed Blu-Ray movieplayers than HD-DVD players. More moviestudios supporting the Blu-Ray format than HD-DVD. More manufacturers producing Blu-Ray players than manufacturers making HD-DVD players. And Blu-Ray outsells HD-DVD in retail.
The only thing HD-DVD has going for it, is more support from the porn-industry.... yet porn can be bought for Blu-Ray as well...
at this rate, there's no way Blu-ray will lose this war. Sony is killing the competition.
They go and use a trojan horse with the PS3 and for ever PS3 they sell they make out that Blu-Ray is more popular well does the consumer have a choice? No. When they buy a PS3 they get blu-ray but heres the deal you can only watch blu-ray movies if you have a HDTV!
sony were selling bluray movies for free thats how desparate theyre gone
"Selling Blu-ray movies for Free"... hmmmm...
Selling for free... hmmm...
Is it possible to sell something for free?
I think you should edit that. Read the p.s. of comment 6.1
Consoles have been them for years.Money is lossed in first couple of years,and made back on games & add-on.
Sony is genius for forcing us to have a blu ray player. Now that HD DVD is officially behind in sales, Blu Ray can sail to the throne. Wow, Don't get mad at Sony for how they went about it. It worked, therefore it was genius
It worked for the DVD so why would the same strategy not work for the Blu-Ray? Xbox 360 fanboys say the choice is taken away and thus it doesn't benefit the consumer. Guys think for a second before you make such ignorant comments. If the PS2's and Xbox proprietary format was the CD and they included the DVD player as an add-on, who know's how long it would have taken for the mass population to incorporate DVD's into their living rooms as a general format for watching movies as opposed to VHS. Sony made a splendid decision to incorporate Blu-Ray in it's next generation console and only uneducated haters can see this as a bad thing. And just because you don't have an HDTV does not mean you can't still watch DVDs via the PS3 also. Therefore, it's definitely ignorant to make a comment like this:
"I knew it...
They go and use a trojan horse with the PS3 and for ever PS3 they sell they make out that Blu-Ray is more popular well does the consumer have a choice? No. When they buy a PS3 they get blu-ray but heres the deal you can only watch blu-ray movies if you have a HDTV!"
Hopefully, Intelligent people will see my point.
Supersaiyan4, no need to respond by saying that I misunderstood. I am referring specifically to this comment as ignorant and that next time fanboys should educate themselves before throwing around words in hopes that intelligent people won't notice the ignorance behind your opinions.
Blu-ray will continue to sell as long as a ps3 is sold and the fact of the matter is when a xbox 360 is sold, it does not necessarily merit the purchase of Hd Dvd. Therefore, on the basis of this alone, it makes sense for Blu-ray to be crowned the dominant format, which will then mean that in a couple of months( or by next year for those Xbox fans who say... "let's wait"), Blu-ray will unsurprisingly be crowned by the consumer, the dominant HD format for home entertainment.
p.s.: Since when has getting something for free been a bad thing?
It's funny how people say "Sony forces" into buying the PS3. You don't people don't have to buy sh!t if you don't want it. Nobody's forcing you to buy anything. Honestly the real reason why people is pissed about the PS3 having an internal blu ray player is because their xbox does not, plain and simple. It's high school nonsense really.
....I don't understand your logic at all. So let me ask you this question and read it real carefully. If I want a PS3 and I don't want a Blue-Ray Drive can I ask the store repesentative to remove it so that I don't have to pay extra for something I don't want? Or is there a model without the Blue-Ray drive so I can get a PS3? Think carefully on these two questions and then ask yourself again how am I not force to pay for a Blue-Ray drive when I just want the PS3 without it?
Well it's obvious 4 other people understood my logic but i'll help you out. For example, what if I went to the store and I wanted a 360 without the DVD drive and I just wanted a CD drive. Another example, if I went to Honda dealer ship and asked for a S2000 with no windows.
You are asking for options that do not exist...and with that said, you do not have to buy anything you don't want, nobody's forcing you to do anything. Make sense?
they will soon have a brick drive with very limited titles to play.
A brick drive next to the brick power supply
You make perfect sense; however I don't want to buy a 360 or a car. You're saying if i don't want a blue ray drive don't buy a PS3, but there's a small problem with that because I want a PS3 and not a Blue-ray drive. You're saying don't buy what I don't want, but I do want a PS3 and because of that I can't get out of paying for a Blue-ray drive that I don't want. It's the same thing as your examples that you laid out as well. You want a 360 without a dvd drive but with a cd drive and because that option don't exist you don't buy what you want because you're getting something that you don't want or do you buy what you want and are forced into accepting something you don't want because of that purchase. Think about it.
i trust microsoft 1000% Can anyone say that without being a compulsive liar?
Sony has a right to brag about this since they are totally slaughtering HD-DVD right now.
My game system is for playing games.How many ps3 owners are buying the games? Could it be that movies are selling ok because the are no freakin' games?I n my house htere are 27(not counting XBLA games) 360 games and 14 hd movies,just the ratio a "gamesystem" should have.
Glad i read all the posts before I did, because I was going to suggest the same thing. Blu-ray sales are up post christmas because PS3 early adopters have to have some way to justify their purchase/gift - and it surely isn't games. Remember, the UMD format was a big hit (according to Sony) back when there weren't any PSP games (course there still aren't many - but I digress). What happened to UMD? Its gone, baby, gone.
Not a hater or a flame-bater - I just call 'em like I see 'em.
I hate it when people refer to umd’s past for blu ray, there 2 completely different things! Umd movies are for people sitting on the bus or alone in there room , on the other hand blu ray movies are meant as a home theater experience were the whole family can sit down and enjoy it….get my drift? There two different markets and anyone with half a brain could see that the portable movie market wouldn’t be that successful
People seem to forget that the PS3 was not advertised as just another gaming system. Its more of a central media device. So music, movies, internet, games, etc all in one. The fact that you only think of it as a gaming system is your own beef. With that said. Even if it was advertised as a movie player. How many blu-ray players are the same or cheaper than a 20gig ps3? Now, from that list, how many of them have all the same functions of a ps3? So you can take pride in your games to movie ratio thats fine. If all you bought the thing for was games then yea, it makes sense to have that ratio. But if you wanted a device that is supposed to be multifuctional and accel in all areas, then the ratio is of course going to be different.
I love the smell of cooked numbers in the morning...
now subtract out the BRD game titles and the bundled Ricky Bobby discs. THEN compare BRD sales to HD-DVD format sales.
now subtract out the King Kong disc, THEN compare BRD sales to HD-DVD format sales, i'm sure they're a lot better then what sony said.
Um, M$ is bundling King-Kong with the HD-DVD add-on, not the console. And M$ is not using HD-DVD as game media. My argument stands. I'd agree with you IF M$ bundled King-Kong with the 360 CONSOLE, and IF M$ used HD-DVD as the medium for 360 game distribution.... but they don't so I won't :D
Long after the PS3 Blu-Ray movie promotion ended...
silver, Use the silver bullet on yourself, you don't make any sense.
I know andthensome, it's hard to keep up, isn't it.
ps, nice broke-ass ride avatar! lol!
lol the ricky bobby disc promotion ended before these numbers were generated. And just because the discs arent ALL movies doesn't mean that the discs did not sale. That'd be like people refusing to buy computer games because it wasn't strictly music stored on it.
but your CONSOLE still SUCKS AZZ. Somehow, I got the impression the PS3 was a gaming console.....guess I was wrong. :o
LOL ... jeez this is a pretty premature assumption already.....
Fancy a company crowning itself? How amazing is that they are soo full of themselves its just not funny anymore they are scared and they know it. Japan aint even buying up PS3's like the PS2's.
that the person who wrote this write up crowned them. Sony never said that. The only crowning that will happen will be when one format no longer exists.
i got myself a ps3 not for the blu ray but to cook some ribbs and burgers
you mother should of aborted you before you were born =) anyway xbox 360 fans dont cry as usual you come up with nothing accept for pure shyte. The reason im buying my PS3 is for the blu-ray and the games, and whats so bad about people buying the PS3 for a blu-ray player? seems to me that there smart tbh
WHO CAN SAY THE READ THE ARTICLE BEFORE FLAMING WITHOUT BEING A COMPULSIVE LIAR?
You will realize that Sony actually didn't say Blu-ray has won, yet.
Instead they simply stated some sales figures.
Obviously MS fanboys lack basic reading skills.
I bought a console to play games and games only! The PS3 fans are fooling themselves and are falling for all this. How many here would care for blu-ray or be rapid blu-ray fanboys if it wasn't included into the PS3. And the sad part that they don't even see is that it is taking away from the PS3 as a game machine. All this focus on blu-ray everyone has forgtten about the games.
they havent moron your just another xbox360 fanboy sad gimp.
I do wonder how many Blu-ray fans would support HD DVD if that was Sony's product. I could care less about who backs it, I like HD DVD because of it's extra features, less encryption, and the lack of region lockout so I can import HD DVDs from other countries.
Your the one who is a fanboy... that fact that you get so angry because someone questions your precious blu-ray and PS3. Where are the games then? If you care about games then way such a fanboy for blu-ray.
Maybe so many people are talking about blu-ray movies becuase that's what the thread is about... It's called staying on topic...
BLU-RAY vs. EYTCH-DEE-DEE-VEE-DEE, followed or preceeded by the film title you actually want. The marketing dpt. at Toshiba or whoever is responsible are supposed to be fired.
that was a good one. If u put it that way, I guess i would rather have Blu-ray. PS3 is for me.
TeamXbox crowns Blu-ray as the Winner. =P I agree with the site. It looks like Sony made the right call.
Just like the 360 / PS3 / Wii war, isn't it a little early to name a winner? I agree that it looks good for Blu-ray, but HD DVD is far from dead yet.
sony may be slaughtering the format competition with blu ray right now, don't forget that their system is for games mainly, and they are dead last in that department right now. I for one hope that they start fixing up that problem some way or another.
to be honest, im pretty sure dvd had done well before ps2 came on the scene. the vast amount of advertisements for dvd on vhs movies and on tv. i got my ps2 at launch,nearly a year and a half after having a dvd player. i think this debate was had on the forums before regarding that. As for the ps3, yes sony has been very clever in their methods of making more money. but i honestly dont think its a great thing for the consumer. i think bluray should win, because i think its the better format. but i think the microsoft dream of everything being downloadable is far better for consumers. jus my opinion
except that while MS wants to go to digital distribution they have not even started to talk about a way to handle it. And i am not talking about XBox Live, I am talking about a World Wide Network that is able to support the bandwidth needed for massive digital distribution because internet1 cannot handle it and won't be able to handle it for many many many years
or do you still beleive Sony can survive on game sales alone?
"bluray 1st games 2nd" ..ah get something more intersting to say cuz thats bull
I think they've run out of things to criticize the PS3 for. Sony basically fixed everything both gamers and the media were complaining about. Watch, by winter the only thing they'll be able to say is "Those graphics are too good for mortal beings! The 360 is better. -dirty look-" =P
is that a lot of 360 fanboys CAN'T READ.an XBOX FANSITE posts a headline that SONY CROWNS BLURAY THE VICTOR,and it creates a thread that is longer than it should be.sony posted numbers which was stated earlier and that bluray has increased on adoption.that was it.get some "edgamacation" people.learn to read,then comment.
Its funny that The XBroke360 crew is the one that titled this article and not Sony. Because they unlike microsuck look to the future of gaming and making a console that will be ready for game makers using more space and better quality than DVD. Blue Ray will be in the future of gaming and not a $200 add-on to a already accessory based unit. O what's that microsuck u don't have blueray add on and they quit making HD-DVD's. Sucks to be you I guess they have to buy one from SONY so they can have games to sell in the future.
On a side note is it not microsuck and pc's that are always needing upgrades to support future expansion to cope with they latest technology
I support Bluray totally. I own 20 Movies that are mastered in the Bluray format, and I love the sound/picture clarity of all of them. I must say though that the war is far from over for the proprietary HD disk format. Only time will tell which format will win, but for now I am enjoying the [email protected]
The only thing good about your "game" console is that its "movies" are selling well.
Did Sony do this on purpose??
Not make any good games so the fanboys would be forced to buy movies. If you look at Blu-ray sales, and look at the game attatch rate of the PS3. Its clear, you fanboys are just watching movies on your PS3.
Im glad my "game" console has good games, Ive seen all those movies in the theater.
Bluray is dying,and you 360 fanboys don't like it,youre so jealous
Anyone who says that Sony is only in it for the movies allow me to point it out and make it very clear. Sony installed a Blu-Ray DVD drive (25GB single side) 50GB (double side) storage media and a 60GB hard drive, they were obviously thinking of massive worlds and massive entertainment for the consumer. Look at the first batch of games we were given, they used BLU-Ray Discs for these games and they only touched a single side of it, Resistance peaked at 22GB, 3 GB under full. Imagine Resistance on a 50GB, more advanced graphics that could have been used, bigger, more massive environments to explore, Its always about the games 1st, the movies are the bonus. Least we the sony fans didnt have to buy the optional HD drive for $200.
Nintendo declared Wii success over PS3. Why is it that when Sony is behind it's not a sprint. We need time it's a marathon. Now when Sony is in the lead it's a sprint. More Sony BS. I hate their arrogance and PR B.S.
Sony declared very little. Read the article, THEN comment.
Its Teamxbox that has crowned Blu-Ray the winner over HDDVD.
Why don't Sony throw out sales numbers for the PS3 VS the Wii thrown out too. Sony has thrown out numbers since E3-05.
who gives a TOSS about blue ray and HD films ?????? there still just the same film on DVD enda the day, im intrested in the games.
I find it interesting that the games are using Blu-ray straight away considering that they are more expensive to produce - they could've made more profit if they'd used Dvd's if they wanted to. A lot of ps2 games were still on cd (remember those blue discs - they were cd's, not dvd's) to save money because they didn't need the space on the dvd. So you would've thought if they could have fitted all the data on a dvd they would have, I think it's just a bit of saved effort that they don't have to over-compress things.
Also I believe that the ps3 drive is capable of playing single-layer 50gb discs, and so the size could go upto 100gb double-layer (I got this from the want for a 50gb single-layer disc for mgs4) ...so Ps3 does have room to grow.
Oh and the speed of the drive is just as good as dvd drives, if not better than double-layer dvd's - the oblivion guys debunked the exaggeration over putting the data twice over, as they used the very same techniques on the xbox360 dvd's. It is an advantage, shame it makes it so expensive.
Blu ray has had a burst of sales over the last month. But even with the burst it still hasn't sold more movies than HD dvd. For example. I have 26 blu ray movies and just about 100 HD dvd movies. But over the last few weeks I have bought 25 blu ray movies compared to only 10 HD dvd movies. 1 blu ray movie came with my Ps3. So I have 26 total. I now own every HD dvd/Blu ray movie that is out. If its out on both...I only get the superior HD dvd version. If its only on Blu ray...I get the blu ray version. Most guys who really enjoy movies have both blu ray and HD dvd. Only fanboys pick one side and pray the other side fails. I have over 30k invested in my entertainment system. How stupid would I look only buying into one format and hoping on it? I have a strong feeling HD dvd will win out in the end. But, in the meanwhile I will enjoy both. And yes if the ps3 sells 500k ps3's with a free movie...that will most definately boost blu ray movie sales. Prior to January HD dvd's were outselling blu rays 11 to 1. Now blu ray is supposively outselling HD dvd's 2 to 1. it looks like Blu ray still has a lot of catching up to do.
I hate it when guys tht have 30k to spend on home entertainment are sitting in here telling everyone that they have 30k to spend on it. I mean who actually cares. you're probably lying any way, and if you did have 30k to spend on it I guess that would make you the all knowing guru of the subjuect. All I know is everywhere I go and look I see Blue Ray stuff from TV to magazines. I really son't see to much HD DVD product when I'm at best buy or Wally World. I used to but not as much now.
Your back...and lying out your ARSE!!! How can you deny that blu-ray has outsold HD-DVD like HARDCORE??? It's ohkay to let go now. You and the other 20 people that bought the add-on (no one bought it after reports came out that it SUCKED) can go have a hay-day and watch your really really good movie...King Kong. Honestly, that's almost worth a stand-alone player right there. King Kong freakin' ROCKS!!! Peter Jackson can sleep in my bed anytime.
Coming back to blu-ray. Have you seen Walmart's selection these days? The blu-ray is in the front...and it's selling very well. Best Buy is certainly pushing it.
The PS3 has blu-ray included for TWO reasons...to make movies BEAUTIFUL...and to make games FREAKIN' AWESOME! All languages on one disc? No compression? That's what I've been looking for in my gaming console.
Rowdy1 - I think Toshiba may have given up by now. Their a generally amazing company. Once hd-dvd sinks...they will sign on for blu-ray. Look at Sony. Once they signed on for VHS...sales went through the roof. They make quality products for a good price. Now, Microsoft...I'm not buying Vista for 400 bucks when I already know Vista SUCKS!!!