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Submitted by techie 2625d ago | article

Too Late for PlayStation Home

Patrick Steen at writes:

"Home sweet Home. PlayStation 3's great online innovation has seemingly come nowhere since Phil Harrison's reveal in 2007. The lanky and loveable Brit left Sony, leaving his replacements to nurture the PS3's online golden child alone.

Home's successive delays might be due to a "naive" vision, but with its imminent release around the corner, mightn't it be just a little bit late for Sony to go Home?

Unlike Garry Glitter, whose return was always premature, PlayStation Home should have gone the distance long ago. Originally in concept for the PlayStation 2, but denied because of technical limitations, the 3D online application has had a muted and extended Beta, slowly dousing the flames of hype that originally danced around it.

It's doubtful that its pending release and offer of free goodies (shouldn't it all be free?) will build the hype once again.

Indeed, the service could even be doomed..." (Home, PS3)

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still the worst  +   2625d ago
no way home is great
Beast_Master  +   2625d ago
I think they should just release it and keep updating it throughout the year. People are tired of hearing about it, just release it as a Beta and promote new features via PSN videos and Core. It will not be a hit at first no matter how much stuff there is to do but eventually as features are added it will catch on.

I just hope that the trophy system is used dynamically throughout home. I don't buy games now unless they have trophies. I talking about you Smackdown vs. Raw 09!!
whoelse  +   2625d ago
Home wont be too late as long as the Beta arrives (which should happen) before year end.
kapedkrusader  +   2625d ago
The original story has a question mark at the end of the title...
...I got nothing else to say.
J8M7G  +   2625d ago
'I don't buy games now unless they have trophies'
Thats sad...
WANNA GET HIGH  +   2625d ago
But its over hyped.I am in the beta and i can confirm its nothing special.What is there is fun but its not the life changing online service most people hyped it up to be.
NipGrip  +   2625d ago
Trophies in game..
I think it's more sad that a developer would release a game for the 360 with Achievements but won't be bothered to put in Trophies for the PS3. Support the system to it's fullest extent or you don't get my money either. It's not "sad", it's expecting everything that you can get for your dollar. You don't have to get the trophies you know. For those that do want them, why do you care? It's the dev. that is lazy because Sony didn't insist they put them in like MS yet they charge the same amount? I'm looking at you, Guitar Hero World Tour.
FantasyStar  +   2625d ago
I agree with Nitgrip
I don't think it's sad. I'm the same way.

I don't bother to earn all trophies, but it's the principle of speaking with your wallet. I want all PS3 games to support Trophies, and custom soundtracks: so I'll buy only the games that does exactly that and hope that developers see that the sales reflect that fact that we want trophy support in our games instead of sometimes. It's irritating when a game now doesn't have trophy support or even plans to patch for it because it tells me that they're not apt enough to even give us the smallest of things that I pay for.

Although I do make exceptions sometimes if the game is bloody great. But I can sympathize well with Comment 1.1. It's not about being a trophy whore, but the principles of wanting all PS3 games to support trophies. However I take it a step further and want custom-soundtracks as well. Hell I want Sony to mandate Trophy support, Custom-Soundtracks support, Youtube support, and screencap support. What's the point of adding features if only 1 out of 100 games supports any one of those features. Sony has a chance to totally outdo Microsoft but their "let the developers decide for themselves" mentality is simply ****ing things up. PS3 developers have proven time and time again that if given the choice, they'll take cheapest route and you know who suffers from that decision?

The PS3 gamers.
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ape007  +   2625d ago
let me sum this up
it's not too late imo

in 2009,all games will be build up on ps3 as the main system and all game will have trophies,if sony release home now,it will be the perfect timing,so all things come in a full circle.

just please sony,add game invites and join session in progress,both of these can be done from anywhere using in game xmb and add cross game chatting and a huge ad campaign(Imagine if kz2 was 360 exclusive and it's 2 months away?)

if you do this sony,ps3 will be absolutely perfect

listen to me sony,please
Anon1974  +   2625d ago
Oh yeah, Home is too late.
I'm sure when it launches, PS3 users are going to stay away in droves. Big ole free social networking sight, staring them right in the faces and they're going to resist and turn away.

Get real!
Alvadr  +   2625d ago
Makes me disappointed that people b!tch, cry and scream Sony Sucks when they are trying to offer its gamers a FREE service.

Not meny companies do stuff for free these days, you should be gratefull that Sony put so much time into making this great.
Beast_Master  +   2625d ago
I don't think it is too much to ask for a Trophy patch on games that where released after September. I mean if GTA4, Mercs 2 and Burnout can get patched why not SvsR 09 and Guitar Hero? Fallout 3 is getting a patch. I plan on putting a lot of time into my game purchases, Since Oct I have: Dead Space, LBP, R2, W@W, PoP, Quantum of Sol., and Bioshock. They all have trophies, I have built up a gamer score. SvR09 is a game I would put more hours into than most games and not to have that added to my score kinda sucks considering its release. If next year's SvR is basically the same game as this years but has trophies I should just wait. Also a Patch would help THQ sell the copies next year.

I mean if it has achievments then it should get a trophy patch, they say they are supporting the game with up to date story lines throughout the year, so just give us trophies THQ! And their is no excuse why GH shouldn't be patched if you sell additional tracks.
Raz  +   2625d ago
beta tester opinion
The customization of your Home space was one of the key selling points for me - and there's precious little of it. Home is also a monster download, so unless you've got a 100 gig drive installed, it's going to eat up most of your storage. I had to delete most of my downloaded games and even some game data just to make room for it on my 60 gig drive.

It's mildly interesting to hang out in a virtual space and make virtual friends, have conversations etc. but frankly: this is not a revolutionary 'console seller'. It's not even that interesting; seems a clunky alternative to my XMB. While there remains some potential, I'm disappointed that this is the most Sony's been able to come up with after all this time...but I'm not precisely surprised.
claney  +   2625d ago
@ Above
O Noo! did it reserve 3gig on your hard drive?
O Shlt only 50gig left for other stuff... quick
you best go buy a 500gig hard drive you got no space left!
Lombax  +   2625d ago
@ above 2
@ 1.13
Bwaaaahahahaaaaa ha ha oh ho... funnie shi...

@ 1.12
uh Mr. "beta tester" it's a BETA!!! the shops aren't even fully open yet, thus no stuff to buy, ergo no stuff to put in your house... you do know what being a beta tester means right?
Raz  +   2620d ago
@ 1.13 & 1.14

Grow up. And while you're at it, learn how to read. The subject line said 'beta tester opinion', not 'expert analysis'. If you don't agree with my opinion, that's your business; but it's hardly an excuse to behave like douches. ..Not that trolls need one.

My main complaint was that I can't customize the house itself - just the furniture, which is what I meant by there being little in the way of customization. Forming a Running Man conga line loses its appeal quickly, and why would I play in a virtual online arcade when I have better games on my PS3? To unlock a new t-shirt??

As an analogy: I wanted LBP, not The Sims. Wow, custom furniture in a pre-fab space that's otherwise like everyone else's. Yeah, that's really worth a trip to the virtual stores. Hey, maybe they'll come up with more molds to choose from - then I'll just have a space identical to everyone else who bought it, too.

I also said it still has potential; but I'm disappointed (with good reason) that more hasn't been done considering all the delays. Considering further the massive job cuts and billions in cutbacks Sony is now making, I don't see a lot more innovation upcoming.

So, go on - tell me these aren't valid issues and I'll laugh in your face.
Nineball2112  +   2625d ago
Home will be successful... It already is, imo.
Captain_Sony  +   2625d ago
Sorry but nothing is a success before it is released. If we looked at everything else for PS3 that you probably also assumed would be an instant success we might get a more valid idea about how Home will be welcomed.. How well was Lair recieved? Haze? HS? LBP? anser is not very well at all.
Nineball2112  +   2625d ago

I hate to be the first one to break the news to you, but two things...

1. Those are games that you listed, Home is not a "game".

2. Those games were actually sold to customers, Home is free.

Any other brilliant trollish comments you'd like to make?
Darkseider  +   2625d ago
DOOMED!! Major tech vendors, VG publishers and studios and commercial entities signing up for advertising an exposure! DOOMED I TELL YOU!!! DOOMED!!!

techie  +   2625d ago
Read the article asshat.
Darkseider  +   2625d ago
I did, asshat. The article is nothing but a bunch of negative, speculative bullsh*t.

From the article:

"It’s doubtful that its pending release and offer of free goodies (shouldn’t it all be free?) will build the hype once again. "

"To do this they need to surpass the gamer's view of Nintendo’s Miis and the Xbox 360’s avatars. And despite the latter struggling to be cool, PlayStation Home has more at stake. Its extras must be justified to the public, and will fail if it’s viewed as a Second Life clone about dressing up a sad avatar to make you feel better about your own sad life"

So ummm... aside from quoting the article and poitning out the blatantly negative spin. I see nothing more than "OMG!! DOOMED I TELL YOU!! DOOMED!!!" The author offers a brief opinion of how Sony should market it to make it successful, mind you he states it's the ONLY way.

"No, Sony can only bring it home if they advertise the service as an extension of the PlayStation 3’s great software library."

So ummm.. yeah. Like I said. ASSHAT


P.S. Skip the bowl of failios next time.
techie  +   2625d ago
Don't be such a retard. It's an opinion piece on Sony marketing/advertising. It's hopeful, not negative. Have you even read that guys writing before, or read Gamezine. There's loads of pro-PS3.

If you can't get past the fact that I stopped the quote at "doomed" then you're a bit dumb.
Counter_ACT  +   2625d ago
Funny how they said that it has to offer more than Xbox's Mii rip offs. All you can do is look at those, right? If Home was just Home square and customisable avatars it'd already be more than what 360 offers in that area.
techie  +   2625d ago
Yes but the point is Counter, that they get it accross to the public - and that's people who haven't yet bought a PS3.
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HowarthsNJ  +   2625d ago
I disagree with you deep...
This is just another cry for site hits.

I can understand if you have connections to it in some way, but it is what it is.

I'm personally creeped out by Home and Second Life, but my wife loves running around in the virtual world shopping and socializing.

It's a hit with people who share her sensibilities already.

Mii's and 360 Avatars don't even come close to this experience. Sony has nothing to prove IMO.
Darkseider  +   2625d ago
No I haven't read anything else from this site, pro-PS3 or not. This is the first article I have read and regardless of the fact that it is an opinion piece it has a negative spin. First impressions are always the best and this left a negative one...

Now back on topic... DOOMED I TELL YOU! DOOMED!!!!
techie  +   2625d ago
The conclusion of the article is pretty clear. Sony must advertise it properly. If they don't, it will be seen like a cheap Second Life piece of sh*t, even if it isn't.

"To succeed, Home must be seen for what it is; an invisible platform for taking video games to another level. And not seen as a weird community for unsociable's to find their next date."

And lets face it, Sony is hardly good at advertising of late.

They also wrote this:

Why are NXE characters so uncool?
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ultimolu  +   2625d ago
...I'm selling my PS3.
Obviously Sony sucks, Home sucks, and the 360 fanboys were right about it having no games.

/sarcasm to the 100th degree.

Home can be a successful feature if people give it a chance. Facebook and MYSpace didn't become successful overnight. It took interaction, and the community itself to make it what it is today.

Sony screwed up by not releasing Home when they were supposed to release it (among many other things) but it's not a failure.
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NaiNaiNai  +   2625d ago
second life on the ps3. T_T wow thats sad
ultimolu  +   2625d ago
Your life must be sad. T_T

You've never tried the service, never played on a PS3 and yet you judge it.

Sad life indeed. T_T
PoSTedUP  +   2625d ago
u skurd me juuken : o
the home beta is really good and regardless it is going to make sony alot of money from advertisements.

it will live up to the hype and it will be what everyone wants it to be.

cant wait till i get rewarded from collecting trophys! : P
Kill Crow  +   2625d ago
Not a single person
will buy a PS3 because it has HOME.

Exactly the same amount of people (zero) will buy an Xbox because of NXE and AVATARDS.

And the same amount of people (that's none in case you missed it) will buy a wii because of it's online service whatever that is.

HOWEVER, almost ALL people will buy a console because of the games they offer(KZ2, Gears of War 2, wii Fit(omg) etc), or what their mates have so they can join them online, or simply because it has a blue ray player.

HOME will not sell PS3's.

EDit - Only game that's managed to move any consoles this year was MGS4 ... LBP and Resistance have moved very few.

And Price cut ... How many times has that been denied by sony but it's ALL everyone ever speaks about .... at the moment there is no price cut on the way ... Right NOW, in the holiday season - that's where the price cut would make the most difference .... not next year .... by then xbox's lead will be back to 8 or 9 million ....
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ultimolu  +   2625d ago
Kill Crow
...Nobody said that it would move consoles.

The games overall will, combined with a pricecut next year.
Bubble Buddy  +   2625d ago
NaiNaiNai - Your life is probably sad.
Counter_ACT  +   2625d ago
Wtf. There's not much like Home, certainly not on any of the current consoles. I think, and hope it will be a huge hit. Can't wait to see what they do with it. It's awesome!
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PotNoodle  +   2625d ago
Comparing second life to Home
Is stupid.
InMyOpinion  +   2625d ago
Yeah. Second Life was succesful.
techie  +   2625d ago
Yes it is, but people might see it like that, if Sony dont advertise it properly
ultimolu  +   2625d ago
Sony does need to advertise but comparing it to Second Life is still stupid.
Kill Crow  +   2625d ago
comparing to 2nd life
is ENTIRELY accurate. it's almost exactly the same - but instead of sex you have to queue in line for pool or arcade machines ...

Oh wait, you can launch your PS3 games from within home ... GIGA innovation there ....

Seriously ... it's nothing but 3d chat ... enough people involved in the BETA have untold stories of boring 3d shopping mall ... nothing more.

Apparently there's super duper features on the way .... but what are they? If they're anything like building your own virtual room with uber cool virtual stuff like virtual plasma screen and stuff ... well then that's EVEN MORE LIKE second life than it is already ....
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ultimolu  +   2625d ago
Kill Crow
Comparing it to Second Life is stupid...
Kill Crow  +   2625d ago
denying the similarities to 2nd life
is retarded .... I guess you fit the profile ;-)

Tell us HOW different it is?

It's a 3D virtual community isn't it?
You can create virtual stuff can't you?(maybe in the future)
You can see movies, adverts, shows etc that are only available to the online community ... can't you?

see where this is going...
InMyOpinion  +   2625d ago
Virtual qeueing lol! Homeh...
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Hercules  +   2625d ago
i have no problem with it
well i AM in the beta, but a few thousands are also..and it may not be much now, but least its something...just let me play my own music and may let us f**k the girls..i met someone who lives down the street, where's the irony, lol (yes it was a real female, she was just married with twins at the age of 28)
games4fun  +   2625d ago
i'm happy
i'll be able to play chess,(i havent played a game in over a year) free, followed by bowling and a bunch of mini-games the developers made,

Not to mention i'll finally be able to see E3 and all the other gamer events live instead of waiting for it to trickle down onto a fanboy news site. I'll also be able to see game vids :)

and thats just the really simple stuff they made.
Stryfeno2  +   2625d ago
Home suck...I played the beta and I think Sony should focus on something else.
ultimolu  +   2625d ago
How can you play the beta? It's not a game. It's a social networking application. -___-

Sell your PS3 already Patchstation. Seriously, just do it now.
PoSTedUP  +   2625d ago
i think you should focus more on your homework then what sony is doing....
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Lykon  +   2625d ago
My buttocks parted
as gas escaped while reading this article. We need more porn in video games, I hope Sony aren't going to moderate all the potential fun out of home like they did with Little big planet. Second life has porn. i want Home to have lots of sex in it.
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ultimolu  +   2625d ago
Shane Kim  +   2625d ago
So does Shane Kim, especially with children involved.
TheTwelve  +   2625d ago
I'm in the Beta...
And at first, I thought that it wasn't all that cool.

However, a friend of mine finally got into the Beta, and when you are on Home with a friend (as it's meant to be), the place is downright addicting.

The potential of HOME is crazy, and that's all I'll say for now. Soon, all of you with a PS3 will see what I'm talking about.

In respect to the cheaper Wii and the headstart 360, so much of what is SONY is really slow in comparison. There is a lot of waiting to do, and in respect to their competition, it seems like this wait is forever.

But I've noticed that when Sony does actually launch their services, the quality is higher, longer lasting and much more innovative.

Heck, I wanted HOME two years ago and the hype has died down for me as well. But like so much that is Sony these days, this thing is a slowburner that will, in time, heat up the entire industry.

95% of the commentary to news here, and often the "news" itself, is so reactionary and based only on the moment. So shallow. But Sony is building up things that time and will last longer than what the competition brings. Back in the day, there wasn't much good competition so this strategy wasn't so obvious...but I think it's being revealed now in a major way and this causes much anxiety.

But like so much else that Sony is doing, HOME is something that is a beauty to behold and will be absolutely un-rivaled one year from now. That's a promise and you can quote me.

mastiffchild  +   2625d ago
Some people haven't even noticed what Sony have been saying themselves about Home recently. This beta is just the base and more and more stuff and integration will be added as we gop along Sony will ad it when the service is up, tunning and more full. ATM those of us in the beta are still giving feedback so they can see the problems in the basis and then add the features we all want. The possiblities are obvious and way in excess of anything currently available on console(seeing as the 360's avatars are deformed Miis in any case)-I was never that into the idea of it if I'm really honest but it's won me over and once there are lots of dev and individual game rooms things will start to look up in a big way.

I don't get the "Second Life" comparisons either-they're tenous and based on a fraction of what Home will become. I don't want to sound fanboyisn about it but ut us negative(the article) as it ignores what Sony's current plans for the feature are.Yes the delays aren't helpful but in a couple of months it should be something to be used by loads of gamers to meet/wait for friends and jump into a game with something interesting to do while they wait with the chance of bumping into a mate or making new ones. It will have to be policed much better to get rid of the idiot sex-pests though.
AngryHippo  +   2625d ago
Home at the moment.....
is nothing more than a glorified chatroom, allowing people to dance and sit on the floor while doing so. My interest in Home has dwindled over the past 4 months of beta testing due to how long it takes Sony to add anything new, 4 months gone and nothing.

The arrival of v1.0 was supposed to be a day when we would see what Home would be like for the Open beta, instead all that happened was removal of game spaces eg, Farcry and Sully's Bar from Uncharted removal of location travelling eg, US, UK, JP Home betas.. At this rate it will be 2011 before we get something new and interesting to do in Home. Recently Sony updated it with the stores opening in the mall, only to add clothes that were already available to beta testers in v0.98. People can disagree all they want, after 4 months of the same old stuff, it gets really bloody boring. For those people that are going to come back at me calling me a 'fanboy' or whatever, please add me 'AngryHippo' and give me a guided tour of all the fun and interesting things to do and places to go in Home.

Come on Sony, prove me wrong and add something new.

Sorry for the rant, but that is my honest opinion about Home and how it stands at the moment.
NipGrip  +   2625d ago
I doubt...
I doubt anyone could show you the fun in Home as it seems like you have very high expectations for something that is free. Playing free bowling with your friends.. Meeting new PS3 owners (without the bombardment of Anti-Sony people anywhere around).. Unlocking outfits and new stuff for your homespace by playing the Echochrome game.. The coming NAMCO arcade that you can check out in the Japanese version.. Putting arcade units in your homespace.. Watching trailers and soon full features with fellow PS3 owners.. All for free. And yet you cry like a baby that wants more.

Let me ask you this, beyond what they have built for free for us thusfar, what *would* you like to see that would just make you (and the others) STFU? What else are you expecting out of the service? Knock our socks off with your grand vision and ideas oh mighty hippo.
running rampid  +   2625d ago
i'm in the beta and i have to say Home is awesome. i wasn't expecting it to be very good, but it took me by surprise.
ionisdialos  +   2625d ago
love my ps3 to death
but i deleted home so damn fast
i want violent mature games

i paid 600 bucks for a adult gaming system
not a nerd myspace type thing

i want to game. and multiplay online
not socialnetwork.
thats for pplo with no real friends
NipGrip  +   2625d ago
To have fun you have to be pretending to be a big, beefy guy lemme guess, chainsawing people in half and blood squirting on the screen? Go back to your cave, neanderthal. There's more to gaming than that crap that only appeals to the lowest of the mindsets.


You sound so dumb.
Chug  +   2625d ago
If you actually do have a Ps3, and you actually did delete home, then why the hell did you even download it to start with? Were you expecting home to have violence, blood & gore or something? Jeez.
Mr Microsoft  +   2625d ago
He pretty much selfpwned himself, didn't he Chug?
aiphanes  +   2625d ago
The beta is cool, HOME is awesome...
home will be released before the end of the year...meaning it will be released by end of this month. It will be free, and it will be expanded as time goes by.

It is way better than anything that microsoft and nintendo can come up with. The NXE is a joke compared to Playstation Home.
Timesplitter14  +   2625d ago
Home isn't doomed, but it DID lose some hype because of the looooong beta.

If there's something I've learned this gen, it's that betas kill hype.
omodis420  +   2625d ago
Is the Killzone 2 beta killing the hype? No. Did R2? No.
Beta's are good for gaming.
Timesplitter14  +   2625d ago
and what about LBP?
iHEARTboobs  +   2625d ago
"What about LBP?" As in the BETA might have hurt LBP? That's possible but I think, for the most part, it got lost in the huge wave of shooters.
omodis420  +   2625d ago
Playstation Home is the future of online gaming matchmaking. There is so much potential there. From the sounds of it, it seems to me the author has not even played the beta. But instead knocking it because of the hype.
EndHawkstrike  +   2625d ago
Who needs playstation home?
I dont need this crap.Some ps3 fanboys need home because they are homeless.They live in a virtual world why not a virtual home for their homo****** needs?The only thing I need is God of War 3 on my ps3 nothing more and nothing less.
jlytle1234  +   2625d ago
i wish i could get in the freaking beta.
how do you even question if the service is doomed. sony has invested loads of time, money, and man power to making it right. its not something you buy, but something that is free for all to use. also they are planning on making money off the advertising and micro transactions. obviously they are going to push home big time. this article didnt need to be written.
dabizo  +   2625d ago
Home is not doomed
It rocks!! shame its closed but I have been in home for about a year and its amazing...and it keeps getting better.. so ignore comments that its crap or doomed because its innovative social gaming networking - it works!
redbadger  +   2625d ago
i am sooo sick of people bragging about the beta, and yes i am VERY jealous so Please sony, please do not pull back at the end of December and say there was some tech difficulties. Also, u have to ADVERTISE and inform the public that this Home is going to be huge and innovative.
sajj316  +   2625d ago
The few experiences I've had with HOME have been positive. If you see me on ... hit me up and we'll chat

PSN: sajj316
Hercules  +   2625d ago
in the 1.02 update
a few people say that there is a LBP room, i wish they would bring back uncahrted, because i dont have LBP
M3 Superhero  +   2625d ago
lol n when is Home's official (beta?) release date? im guessin it'll come like last minute during the holiday season.. o_0
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PimpHandHappy  +   2625d ago
its free

you dont have to use it


ppl seem to enjoy it

i want to play some chess

Free stuff can never be doomed!
PimpHandHappy  +   2625d ago
you do understand when your playing Gears of War and chatting with ppl online you are indeed in a virtual world!

when you turn on your system of choice you are in a way turning on your own virtual world!

means your more a homo then anyone that uses HOME

EDIT: you seem to own a PS3 so you dont pay to play
your still a homo for hating on anything free
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Are_The_MaDNess  +   2625d ago
its never 2 l8
EndHawkstrike  +   2625d ago
I dont even own a xbox 360.You should pimp your brain instead of your hands.
Grimlock  +   2625d ago
A bunch of idiots running around chasing fake girls and having a big ol sausage party...

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