The producer of Kingdom Hearts 2 says interest in Microsoft's machine is increasing in the Far East
I'm sure all Japanese people are ready to buy a 360 for sub-par RPGs... Get 'em Square!
Should read: "Checks from Microsoft are increasing in the Far East"
True. So far Xbox 360 RPGs from Square have been nothing but crap.
obviously you never heard of lost oddysey. Mistwalker makes awesome rpg's, and for 2009 they will deliver blue dragon 2 and cry on. Edit: Disagree all you want, mistwalker got ex Square people on board, the same people who left because square was going to merge with enix. If they would be doing games for the ps3 you would all find mistwalker godly.
big talk for a company that lost more than 70% of their revenue compared to last year??!!! am i smelling another bankrupt in SE?? they talk as if they r still in that high position like they used to be! all they did is release average JRPG's and they think they can help 360? i think they should first consider helping them selfs before others! and what happened to the "we will support all consoles" or "we want to expand in the west"?? conclusion: MS bought them! and SE they keep forgetting that Japan is their home base, wats the point in a failure tries to reach the west if u r losing japan who made them what they are?? and i think both MS and SE r damaging each other, by making SE make rushed and sub bar titles only on 360, this makes both SE and MS image of JRPGs exclusives(or time exclusive) very bad!
@ Foxgod There are not SE titles so they don't count. There were reasonably successful in Japan. LO 750,000 WW and Blue Dragon 500,000 WW. They are good RPGs but I can live without them. @ Foxgod 1.6 They are considered good games but on average the 360 has fairly good JRPGs the poor SE titles are pulling down the overall average. It is like last Year the PS3 didn't have lots of AAA but the overall average of all the titles where hight than the 360. My point being I average up the results and decided if a console has good JRPGs.
true, they are not from SE, but people are spitting around that 360 only got sub par rpg's and thats BS, because the 360 got plenty of rocking rpg's
And enter Foxgood to defend the clan. Give it up Fox, your point is so absurd... It isnt on topic OR Square. You just feel like being abrasive and against the grain as usual.... at least next time give us something we can take and say "hmm, good point".
I disagreed only because they are not SE. Granted Lost Odyssey is a good RPG but it is NOT from SE. To date all SE has released to the HD market, read only 360 so far, has been junk. They really need to step up to the plate. Especially with the likes of Level 5, Mistwalker and Sega have thrown their hats into the ring and have shown they can make a better RPG than SE this gen. Makes you wonder what SE is doing or for that matter what they stopped doing to cause this.
One RPG doesnt make Mistwalker to a Maestros of RPGs. Blue Dragon was absolute sh!t, well better than Infinite Undiscovery and The Last Remnant, but its still sh!t in my eyes. =/ Mistwalker is awesome because they made Lost Odyssey, but that all they made... Lost Odyssey.
SEs strategy dont work. They claim to be supporting all consoles equally and bring out these average games on all these consoles. But the reality is this: WHO THE HELL WOULD BUY 47 DIFFERENT CONSOLES and 12 DIFFERENT HANDHELDS JUST TO PLAY SOME SE RPGs WHICH HAVENT BEEN THE SAME AS THEY USED TO BE ANYWAY. Thats why they are losing revenue. You see, they bring Infinite floppery to 360 and they expect all PS2 RPG lovers to jump ship. When the reality is that no PS2 rpg fan is jumping ship at all. Then they release another flop title on the 360 and challenge these fans a little bit more. The fans reactions? ANGER and MORE ANGER. Rofl it was expected. Especially when the quality is getting lesser and lesser. SE is in no position to demand things. Wada screwed up big time. Wada and the goons are losing big time. Down 70% is a sign that people are DISATISFIED. Take appropiate action now or face the consequences. This is your final warning SE.
wow this is a shocker , good for SE I honestly dont even care about there games that much except for a few games that i've been looking forward to from them for years now.... If they keep making crappy games for the 360 is it really helping them as a company in the long by tarnishing there image as once god JRPG makers just for a few pay=checks..then i feel sorry for them by the time this gen ends... I really hope Sony start to acquire some more devs to make JRGP's and 4get about SE....what ever happened to those guys who made "Legend of the Dragoons ?
Businesses do not go by calendar years, they go by fiscal years. April to October was the first half of the 2008 fiscal year for Square/Enix. Revenue was up 57% over the same period last year. This has less to do with Xbox 360 and more to do with DS releases, but it is still an increase of 57%, not a decrease of 70% like you claim. Don't take my word for it, here's a link that discusses Square/Enix last quarterly financial statement. http://www.rpgfan.com/news/... -Death
Since M$ got in the consoles business everything is [email protected] up!! Now it's all a mess with release dates, delays and things like that.
SQUARE = ASS... :/
Wait a minute... I thought Square weren't picking sides in the console war. This obviously shows they were lying yet again.
here is a source for u to check which says its 74% down, but the updated data shows 63%!! http://n4g.com/industrynews... @jcfilth yup, they r ruining the industry like they did with OS! why cant MS compete with their new IP's?? why all they do is just steal franchises from sony? is that what their aim is? i think their target is to get all ps2 install base to 360 which is a dream that will never come true if they r using same policies they use up until now! u see ps1 and ps2 didnt try to target nintendo install base or sega!! they tried to bring something new to the industry and thats where they succeeded and that where MS failed!! if i want to buy the 360 i wanna buy it for playing games that i cant find it in ps3, not to just play 1 or 2 good exclusives in 1 years and the rest is all on ps3!! they just want to destroy sony gaming division! thats their plan! not to bring more people to the industry or compete with their own IP's!! all i hear every month is ps3 exclusive is no more and going to 360 and will take 1 more year to come! while ps3 every month i hear new IP! besides how can a console with 33% failure rate be the king or on top?
33% Failure Rate? B-B-Bu-Butt th-th-the J-J-Jasper!!! ... =D
If FF XIII & Versus don't do very well then, SE will announce a remake for FF7 for PS3 & X360 (LOL)
Thats a blog called Chart Get and it reflects Japan only. Do you honestly trust a blog over Square/Enix? They publish their financials. According to Square/Enix, they are 57% over in sales from what they were during the same time last year. "Square Enix management today discussed its financial results for the first half of the fiscal year 2008/2009 ending on March 31st, 2009. During the six months from April 1st through September 30th, the company posted a net profit of 6.05 billion yen ($61.74 million USD) on sales of 67.97 billion yen ($693.58 million USD). The former figure represents a decline by 4.9%, while the latter amounts to a 57% increase compared to the same period of the previous fiscal year." Square/Enix says they are up 57%. Someone posting to their blog from their mom's basement says Square is down 70%. Fanboys across the globe embrace the mis-information while the rest of us living in a little place I like to call reality go by what Square/Enix says. Any of this help? -Death
Checks from Microsoft are increasing in the Far East? ITS BUSINESS! GET IT? BUSSINES! What about Square in PS1-PS2? Same Sh!+.
the only thing SE could do to help the 360 in japan is release FFXIII in that territory...which they already confirmed they will not do.... Kingdom hearts 3 in japan would help too...but that one is still way up in the air... there is little doubt that MS is pushing big time for stuff like this, as they have no chance of doing it on their own...but SE is in the middle of a PR nightmare...as someone mentioned above...claiming to equally support all platforms, yet not one PS3 release so far...and only one confirmed ps3 exclusive I believe (versus, right?)... I don't really care about third party exclusives anyway...as only one this generation really proved to be everything I hoped for (MGS4), where as other once exclusive turn multiplat games were letdowns (GTAIV)...so I don't care what SE does in these regards... but seriously...everything SE has released since FFXII has been a disaster compared to the pedigree name SE represented...they were not a company that made average titles...they also weren't a company that made a lot of titles...now they are...they make crap UE3 based junk for the 360...claim to want to help the 360 in Japan...yet all the while not really talk about anything relevant... maybe if they start showing FFXIII or something...and why its going to be so great...i'll shut up...but SE quickly followed into Capcom's nightmare of making headlines because of pay-offs...not because of great content...I don't give a rats ass if MS is paying them, and getting the content also...just release good content, regardless of platforms...right now MS is stealing shat, but its stuff nobody should care about anyway...I never though I would see so much garbage come from SE in the span of a year or so...and I am saying 'garbage' relatively...as the games are decent on their own...but compared to their 'real' games, they are little more than a joke...
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Ps3 fanboys are stupid! You keep saying that SE have only made crap games for a while, and look to be on a downward spiral... But then you come back and say FFXIII won't be that great, and FFXIII versus will be the greatest game from them! Do you not realize how ignorant that sounds? If you think they are making crap games now... what makes you think anything will change when Versus comes out? You can hate me, take my bubbles, hit me with disagrees or whatever... but you guys are seriously stupid!!! A.K.A. STFU! :?
Wow, you Sony fanboys seem to be enjoying being the first to post on a 360 thread, in the gamer zone. Good job. /sarcasm Square Enix knows that 360 support is needed to make money, period.
All the PS FF games were AMAZING and ever since Square Enix has been with M$ all their games suck! I really hope FF XII doesn't get ruined now :'(
Square's new ip for 360 suck they need to come back to base or they actually need to take their time and really go multiplat. The dumbass rush rpgs for 360 thinking oh its easy to dev for, and put out crap. Square needs to take their time with their new ips. As long as sqaure keeps dissing their largest console based fanbase(playstation) they will fail with their new ips. Both ff13's should be good but new ip will most likely suck.
as usual why are you always talking crap and make assumptions? yes some ppl from mistwalker are former from SE but that doesnt mean they make good games. let me just give you a real situation example. blizzard are known for their good games in the past like Warcraft series, Diablo series and StarCraft series. some staffs which are former part of the developers and designers left blizz and started their own company call FlagShip studio. their first game HellGate was hype so much before its release as they are from the group of original creator of Diablo series. but what happen when the game came out? its a crappy game after all with loads of bug and pretty crappy game system n etcs. and what happen at the end of the day for FlagShip studio? it no longer exist. this is just an example proven that it doesnt mean employees from a well known company means they can make good games by themselve by setting up their own firm. you make it sound that you are really retarded as to believe the success of one game comes particularly from one person. thats plain stupid just like itageki who thinks he is the god and make the greatest game of all time. come on a successful game come from a big group of ppl involve in the project to make it happen not just 1 hero. more over in regards to LO, hype more... its known to be a crappy game. being listed as top 10 worst game of all time for a couple of times. please start learning to talk with sense and dont keep assuming the world evolves around you.
As can be seen by the incredible take up of Infinite Undiscovery and The Last Remnant AND the overall 74% drop in sales! Nothing quite like watching your sales slump due to shovelware to solidify this statement. These guys have become a joke as of late. I don't care that they release on multiple consoles but at least release something GOOD. FFS they have been batting ZERO so far on the HD consoles with 2 flops for the 360 and nothing even released yet on the PS3. You would think that would be a bit of a hint? IMO Square/Enix has hit bottom and are looking to push out as many titles as they can to make some money and stay afloat. Sony bailed them out once but I don't see it happening again and with MS basically culling their first and second party studios I don't see a relief effort coming from Uncle Billy either. Square/Enix... shape up or close up.
Maybe they've watched Disgaea and Valkyria Chronicles sales numbers and come to the conclusion that developing for the 360 is much more profitable.
@ Jenzo, Developing JRPG's on the PS3 is more profitable than developing them on the 360. JRPG's almost always sell the most in Japan anyways, and there are more people with PS3's in Japan (more than double )that are willing to buy JRPG's than 360 owners in Japan. I think that SquareEnix is thinking that just because the 360 has a larger installbase, that it automatically equals more profit, but so far that hasn't been the case. They are trying to expand to a Western audience, but the vast majority of Western Xbox 360 owners don't want JRPG's and there is barely enough people in Japan with 360's to support the JRPG's that SquareEnix releases. If Metal Gear Solid 4 (a non-JRPG) sold around 650,000+ units in Japan alone, I think that a SquareEnix JRPG like The Last Remnant could surpass MGS4's sales in Japan or come close. After SquareEnix sees the sales for White Knight Chronicles in Japan for the PS3, they'll finally wake up and see all the money they've been missing out on.
You can read my above post. Here is a link discussing Square/Enix first half financial statement for fiscal year 2008. http://www.rpgfan.com/news/... As you can see, sales were up 57% not down like you claim. I've seen Chart Get's mis-information based on calender releases. Unfortunately it has nothing to do with Square/Enix actual business statistics. Before anyone get's too excited, Square/Enix big money maker is actually the DS. -Death