Pioneer is exhibiting its super multi-layer read-only optical disc which features 16 separate layers on a single side with 25GB storage capacity on each layer for a total capacity of 400GB at the IT Month fair taking place in Taipei.
" and therefore the Pioneer discs can be read on BD players, the company said. " It is hence a 400 gig BD disc PS3 is a full future proof console 1 TERABYE blu ray in 2013 Oooo @kratos below The discs are much cheaper to produce and is made from the very same BLU RAY tech. These discs are 10nm based (10x cheaper to produce) and is COMPATIBLE with ALL blu ray players I repeat 100% COMPATIBLE with all BLU RAY players (even the OLDEST ONES)
For getting in before all the blu-ray is dead posts.
I can see myself getting a BD drive for my PC in the not to distant future. Edit: Im waiting for a BD burner you be able to burn at least dual layered 50 GB BD's and have the capability to read those 400 GB BD's I guess if they penetrate the market.
for the prices to reach $100 myself before I slap one in the ol PC.
But it says read only. Are they making a burner for it too? I think 400GB is overkill for movies but it would be nice to have an optical disc I can burn that much data to. A 100GB BD is enough really.
Aww why did you post this up so quickly? I was hoping to read some comments based on just the title of the article that speculates how BD is outdated.
Why will Blu Ray wait so long to get a terabyte storage in 2013, when TeraDisk will be available in 2010 and it is a a Dvd 1.2mm with 200 layers? And the bad thing is the Dvd will still be half the price of blu ray.
This disc will be awesome for backing up my PC and PS3 hardrives and movie collections. If they made a game with this disc it would be crazy. 1000 hour game and would cost big time to make.
I think it's safe to say Blu-ray will be around for a while now! It would be almost pointless for anyone to come out with anything else for at least 5 years minimum after this hits. @Somekindofmike... With Kojima being Kojima, he will probably still say that is not enough space...lol! Just kidding... Don't take a joke so seriously...
lol, I agree 100% with you, Kijima would find a way to fill even a 1TB disk just to say that it's not enough space to get more publicity! Didn't anybody tell him that when consumers buy a game they don't care how many GB's on a disk it fills, all they care about is how good the game is!! I remember back in the day on the megadrive when sometimes they put on the front cover of the packaging "24MEGA BYTES" (or whatever figure it was) if that is the best selling point of the game, then I'd be worried about buying that game!
I came... Future proof the PS3 is..
I agree with you. I have the ps3 and a stand alone player. But the ONLY reason I don't have a pc blu ray yet is because I too am awaiting the burners. Once the burners become available, then I'll have blu ray pc drives
with that much space they can put everything as in everything in it. like for example, if we have that technology right now the movie darknight on bluray can have a lot of extras like a full batman game related to the movie and they can even put batman begins in it too and a ton of features and extras or if it is a naruto series, they can put the entire 500 episodes in one disc. man oh man! being a ps3 owner keeps getting better and better. wooot! i'm loving it!
You can put entire game series on these disc. Entire tv series and movies all on one disc!!! God I can't wait!!!
because its clear.
Wrong. 1TB PS3 in 2009!
"and therefore the Pioneer discs can be read on BD players, the company said. " 400 gig Blu Ray for u @foxbot below Bitter tears the disc is made from the same Blu Ray tech and is compatible with ALL BLU RAY players see other articles on this It is 100% compatible with BLU RAY 100% -----u heard that Even the oldest Blu Ray players can read it read the article XBot and his sucky DVD 9 games
it says "can" though, and not that it will. The earliest blu ray players arent compatible with todays blu ray standards. By 2013 your obviously going to be needing a new blu ray player that can handle the standards.
"The technology of the super multi-layer read-only disc is based on Blu-ray Disc (BD) with a breakthrough in material of reflective layers, according to Pioneer High Fidelity Taiwan. The specifications of the pick-up head (PUH) of the disc is the same as those for the PUH of blank BD discs, and therefore the Pioneer discs can be read on BD players, the company said." I guess Kojima Can't complain anymore about Disc space if his next game is a PS3 exclusive. o_0
It is a blu Ray disc Please be sure of that so we might be seeing R3 in that 400 gig Blu Ray Awesome news for SONY also the disc is 14/10nm and hence much cheaper than BLU RAY to produce
Think of how much longer Kojima's cut scenes are going to be in MGS5 with a 400GB disk! :) Don't hurt me, I love the MGS series, and it wouldn't be the same without the cinematic cut scenes, but I do wish he'd cut back a bit in some places. With the PS3 using 400GB BD disks to 360s 9GB DVD then the PS3 could potentially have a huge advantage. but the key word is potential. so far not much has really used the potential of the 50Gb BluRay disks to really stand out from what the 360 can do. & to the guy who said 400GB was overkill, you are very short sighted, I bet when you bought yours first PC you thought to yourself "wow 10 mega byte hard drive, I will never be able to fill this bad boy" Think of the possibility of entire tv series on one disk in HD. and i'll be first in line for Star Wars in HD and at this rate it could be all on one disk.
Yo, Imagine the game collections they could make with that space. The Full Final Fantasy collection could fit on one disc. That's FF1 - FF13 vs.
Now that's what I call future-proof!
Any ever doubted that PS3 was not a FULL FUTURE PROOF console??? Ur doubts end there PS3 will give x360 the finishing blow in 2009 for sure @foxbot below PS3 will be around for another 6/7 years atleast U heard me..atleast for x360 08 is the last year
it isn't, space doesn't make a great game, its about the horsepower of the engine. By 2013 the new wave of consoles will arrive, those will make the current line of consoles look like piss.
Well, if the 360's lifespan does indeed end this year then the 720 will definitely eliminate the Ps3. So, you'd better hope it isn't.
Now their is no excuse for developers to cut corners and shaft gamers on DLC!
You are assuming that the reason why developer create DLC is because it does not fit on a disc instead of that they want to make more money later. Fallout3 DLC is an example of this.
For a variety of reasons spanning over a few games, SCIV being one of them (I'm sure many remember that) As well as quite a few other games [other than that one I can't remember off the top of my head, 2 AM here.] Mainly when I say "Shaft" I'm talking about DLC "things" that should have been in the game in the first place, refer to SCIV. Not to be confused with developers adding extra songs, (As seen in RB2 as well as GH:WT). [Apologies, not as coherent as I would be if the sun were up and if I had ample amount of sleep.]
I agree with Lokmessier and Bladestar on this one.The SCIV should have been on the discs from day one while I agree with Bladestar that DLC is good as long as its lengthy and worthwhile like the Fallout 3 DLC
Examples would be Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots and to counter that I say Grand Theft Auto 4 with the downloadable content on the XBOX 360 console. Both games support both ideas.
Both are right.
yea, first time ive actually agreed with you blade lol.
Agree with your second statement there lokmessier. Just because some greedy publisher nickels and dimes it's own customers doesn't mean Digital Distribution is flawed. I'm pretty sure most of the content that became available for SCIV was already on the disk ( In other words you already paid for it) and Namco forced users to pay to unlock it which is of course BS. One reason i never bought the game.
goodie, a new disc type on the market by 2013, and affordable by 2015 by the least. Lets all get hyped........
lol, it's a Blu-ray disc so no there isn't going to be a new format, there won't be a new one for a long time.
take your fanboysium elsewhere. dont cry just because there is no improvements made for DVDs. whenever there is anything thats possibly and advantage to ps3 you will be trolling in that thread. if you dont like blu-ray then leave it alone and stick to your DVDs all you want and stop trying to think everyone else should think like you and make their choice base on what you think. the world doesnt evolves around you.
thats not the point, its still a new blu ray disc type, i didnt say its a totally new disc. point is it wont arrive until 2013, do you guys even realise how far away that is ? do you guys realise that when its just released it wont be affordable just like that, new products are always expensive. this post is fanboism BS
read-only (ROM) discs in 2008-2010, rewritable discs in 2010-2012 and 1TB (1,000GB) disc in 2013, which means 400gb blu-ray disc possible available next year.
"and therefore the Pioneer discs can be read on BD players, the company said. " Take that Xfags, 16-layer 400GB optical disc VS. 9gig DVD9. KO'ed. While people like Jack Who, PP, Foxgod and Sony Defence Farce continue to suck on Big Bills c0ck, the rest of the world will consider the Sh1tbox -360 the laughing stock of the videogaming industry.
did you know 2013 is +- 5 years from now ? Did you know it takes several years until it gets picked up by the mainstream due price limitations. So did you know this may not be widely used until like 7 years from now ? Do you expect the ps3 will still be awesome when the ps4 and 720 have been around for almost three years ?
Do you really have nothing better to do then to bad mouth a piece of technology? This gives the PS3 even more potential! but the key word is potential, lets hope we see this potential utilised in some awesome games. Extra storage can mean better games, it means less limitations, more storage for hi res tectures, and many other potential improvements. However the key word is "CAN" take a look at the N64, the cartridges were pitiful in capacity compared to the PS1 CDRom Drive. But that didn't stop the N64 having some amazing games developed for it. Just get used to your repeated textures.
dude, it doesnt give the ps3 more potential, that is the point. its not out until 2013, i am pissed off that ps3 fanboys grab this post to hype their platform, its just a load of bull because it wont be around until 2013!!!! do you know how far away that is, especially considering a console life span ?
The Article Reads that by... 2010 to 2012 they will aim to make a 400GB Rewritable Disk, By 2013 they aim to make a 1TB Disk, It is 2008 now and they HAVE produced a 400GB Blu Ray Disk, I don't expect to see it in store tomorrow, but it's a possibility over the next few years it might happen. Also as far as costs go, The readers are what cost money as in the CD laser, the DVD laser, the Blu Ray Diod (I think that's what they call it.) The actually disks are cheaps as chips. yes it will cost more than a standard Blu Ray Disk, but I still recon it would be more cost effective to put a game (if it was big enough) on one of these new disks than multi 50GB disks. I wouldn't be surprised if the packaging costs more to produce than the actual Blu Ray Disk, this would definitely be the case with DVD's (my educated guess)
they can hardly fill a 50 gb disc (proof is scene releases of ps3 games, lot of ps3 games are smaller then 20 gb.)
Ridge Racer on PS1 used something like less than 10% of the capacity of a CD, but by the end of the PS1 life cycle games like MGS and Final Fantasy were on multi disks. I'm not here to say more GB's means better games! because that is not true, but it gives extra potential. Whether the developers step up to use that potential is what we'll have to wait and see. I'm also like the potential of it as a film medium, entire trilogies on one disk in full HD. same with entire tv series. Not that this will dramatically change the experience from having multiple disks. But it is more convenient. Also a 400GB rewritable Disk would of been useful for my final project at uni, as I had over 250GB of raw video footage to back up! I can't predict the future and see if the PS3 will use this or not, but it's a facility which is there, maybe some games will utilise it, maybe they won't.
The day games are made on that much space will be the day cars tranform into briefcases lol. There will never be a point in having that much space for game you know why? cause developers are too fuking lazy to use it. Just throw them the UE3 and quick timeframe and they will give you an EPIC FLOP lol. p.s would bang that chick though. OBAMA!!!
Except that you can fill that space will hiqh quality video extras, higher quality sound, and many other things. All the space does not need to be used by the game. Not to mention bundling several games onto one disc, it would be cool to have a trilogy of games on one disc.
Wow, that's bigger than my hdd *sigh* I need to upgrade my pc.
Mines too *sigh* why am I laughing about that...
The blu ray drive speed and locating the data across so many levels is what will interest me.If they made games with this,I hope it doesnt mean more mandotary installs for some stupid reason
Like I said in the open zone, you can have simples extras like high quality video and audio, and maybe even multiple titles in sequence, how about a god of war trilogy disc.
i really hope god of war 3 uses this make the game long and epic as possible. Make you fight every greed god, then turn around and fight every titan :)
Star Wars Saga [Full HD] in one disk imminent.
I feel really outdated. -Disc tray loading -Loud -Really limited storage space -Non-HD -Prone to scratching discs Why o why did Microsoft invent me?
fanboys to the extreme!! carry on droid =]
77% of PS3 fans support their console by attacking their rivals. 34% of Xbox fans support their console by attacking their rivals. If your losing a console war, what other choice do you have but attack your rivals? There is nothing good to say about your own console, so let's attack our rivals! Ok!
Hmm, makes you wonder if BD will even support Super Hi-Vision the so called "Ultra High Definition Video" at 7,680x4,320 resolution. With the added space it sounds likely.
sooo....... my ps3 will be able to read that? :O
finally i will be able to watch every season of every show on fox since 2000.....at on small price of $1000 meh its not like ill ever see one till 2016
And they said bluray was dead..
it is dead... you new around here or something yup blu-ray dead
your obviously new around here, i have 2200 posts on the forums, bluray isnt dead, its just stretching its legs
Once XBOX 360 goes by the wayside, maybe they'll come out with "The XBOX 360 Collection" all on one Blu-Ray disc for PS3. So we can look back on the console and format wars in a grand historical fashion. If you order today, receive a commemorative RRoD Ceramic Plate with gold trim and a stand so that you may display it in front of your friends and family. All of this for only $19.95, yes thats right $19.95.
We should have had this when Blu-Ray came out. Blu-Ray was more like DVD 2.0, not a full upgrade to the next generation. Finally, something worth my time!
My pc doesnt even have 400gb of space on it... overkill atm.