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"Editorial: LittleBigPlanet Was A LittleBig-Flop Because Of Beta LittleBigPlanet would probably be considered the biggest, most anticipated game of the year for the PS3. Fans were estatic about the game; gaming blogs and publications were already hailing Sackboy and Sackgirl as the next Mario and Luigi; and Sony seemed to put enough interest into the game to promote it as the next mascot-based title for the PlayStation brand. However, things didn't seem to look quite as grand when the NPD results were released, and LittleBigPlanet looked more like a single-A title rather than a triple-A system seller.
I wonder if Sony is secretly resenting the "stress test" for which the beta was intended? What's funny, though, is that despite the moderate sales of LBP, Sony was apparently pleased with the results, according to VideoGamer.com. Maybe someone should tell the execs at SCE that software sales usually decline on a title as time goes on, they don't increase. Then again, they seem to be aiming the PS3 to exit the world backwards, because these are the same folks who are not planning on cutting the PS3's price during the holidays or soon after the holidays, so says PCMag.com. So I guess Sony is just running their entertainment division butt-backwards from here on out, which is not too surprising given that they thought people would be thrilled to pay $700 for the PS3 back in 2006, when the economy was already showing signs of edging toward disaster."
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I can never be the new mario.......... :'(
"Then again, they seem to be aiming the PS3 to exit the world backwards, because these are the same folks who are not planning on cutting the PS3's price during the holidays or soon after the holidays, so says PCMag.com. So I guess Sony is just running their entertainment division butt-backwards from here on out, which is not too surprising given that they thought people would be thrilled to pay $700 for the PS3 back in 2006"
The PS3 is in a lot of trouble.
From the start we all knew(except PS3 fans)LBP was going to be a flop because it was a console for hardcore gamers and on the most expensive console out!! So lets stop beatin a dead horse please... We don't want to make our PS3 fans who makes up 90% of the population on this site cry or do we?
@lightning- I would be very surprise if resistance 2 didn't sell at least a million this month. If it doesn't it really wont spell doom for Sony. I mean hopefully not. M$ needs the competition to keep improving the 360!
After months of hearing them talk about how great this game was goin to be and how it was going to single handed put the ps3 on top again ........... yeah actually I think we do.
*goes and beats the dead horse some more*
Just wait till you see what Resistance 2 did. I would like to say that the PS3 is on life support. But it might not even be that good.
As high as the reviews were and as much hype as the game got, it's sad that it's not selling faster. If you're a Sony fanboy - get off this website and go out and buy the game instead of hitting the disagree button with everyone!!!
I did not buy LBP because its not my type of game,i like shoot em up more.U can call me narrow minded or what ever but i dont care, i buy what i have fun with and when i played LBP i did not have fun with it,i dont find creating levels fun and i did not fall for hype and a cute puppet like most people did.That dose not mean LBP is crap, i still think the game is a breth of fresh air in the gaming industry but its just not for me.Not every one like tittles that innovate,look at mirros edge it was backed with innovation and most people tought it would be one of the best FPS games but looked how it turned out.Most gamers like playing what they know they can have fun with and do not have time to adjust to something new.All i need is R2,KZ2,god of war3,halo4,gears3,uncharted2 and mgs5 and i will be a very happy gamer.
Too Human and Haze were 'FLOPS', LittleBigPlanet is a f**kin masterpiece.
As I`ve always said, LBP will have a snowball effect in sales, 3 people I know personally are getting it next week. It`s not some brainless ultra violent shooter that only needs a commercial to sell the game, don`t treat it like one. LBP needs to be witnessed first hand before you get actually understand what kind of game it is.
Sales or NO sales, it`s the best game ever made IMO.
All great games no doubt, but try something w/o a number at the end every once and a while.
is it a little flop or a big flop!!!!:D
Its both! Its LITTLE BIG FLOP!
Either way, why the hell should you me or anyone outside of Sony HQ give a flying **** about sales. If you bought the game and enjoyed it then great, if you didn't then thats fine too but don't think that liking games means you are some kind of demi expert in media sales and marketing.
And if the beta had such an effect on sales, explain why so many other games which received betas have not had this problem. Demos too you would think have the same issue but if I remember correctly game that have a free demo sell much better, why has every game with a demo not also experienced a big hit on sales.
Do you fanboys ever quit?
Last I checked, games flopped based on score, not sales numbers. So does that mean that every game that didn't sell 1million the first day flopped?
If so, that means that are a lot of games out there that really really suck.
@blackcountrybob
Apparently we should give a crap about sales because all fanboys do, and if a game doesn't sell good, it's an auto flop.
Stop being a fool. Sony is happy with the numbers, fine, their business. Resistance is a flop? Maybe in a crowded FPS market unoriginality hurt its sales. PS3 on life support. Funny, the 360 had similar....actually less consoles sold by the 2 year mark than the PS3, imagine that? And software isn't selling, is that why it's on life support? COD:WaW sold nearly a million according to VGChartz, compared to the shooter hyper 360 at 1.3 million with at least 6 million more trigger happy console gamers jumped in. Tomb Raider selling better on PS3. That means that PSgamers only watch blu-ray, right?
Idiots, I swear. Change the name to Lightning360 and go troll in the openzone.
A game can be flop in both sales or scores. LBP had great reviews but flopped in sales. Too Human got bad reviews but still was able to sell a million plus. Now if you were a developer and a publisher which would you rather have? Which will make you more money? Of course how many units you sell and the more that you sell the more money you can make to develop your next game. You can have a great game but if nobody buys it how are you going to pay your workers and feed your family?
edit- and to all those who say LBP will have a "SNOWBALL EFFCT" you guys were the same people who said LBP will sell 2 million in its first day and take the PS3 over the top! Didn't happen eh?
Is Little Big Planet a terrible game?
Answer that.
Can't even answer the question, right?
if this game was a flop, the olny reason is lack of advertising!
sony dont do it enough! there f**king idiots!
i'm surprised you're not asking what you normally ask "who said it then? name them"
after months and months of sony fanboy/fangirls hyping this into the stratosphere, it did'nt do a fraction of what it was claimed to do. go back and look at some of your old juuken threads to see who was claiming what.
hitting the disagree and run..lol what every sony lover does on this pathetic web-site. lose a bubble coz you dont deserve them.
lbp did'nt sell millions of units and consoles because it wasn't a game that would appeal to many, and the lack of marketing did'nt help either.
the problem is, many sony fanboys go on about "outselling" "outsold", when it dont happen as they predicted, the stuff comes back and bites them in the ar$e.
me, i dont care either way. i make no money from any games or consoles sold.
And yet you're still attacking Sony fans instead of living up to your name.
"lbp did'nt sell millions of units and consoles because it wasn't a game that would appeal to many, and the lack of marketing did'nt help either."
Little Big Planet is back in the top ten on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/be...
Holy crap, did it just move to number five in the space of two hours?! o_o
Proved ya wrong. :)
"the problem is, many sony fanboys go on about "outselling" "outsold", when it dont happen as they predicted, the stuff comes back and bites them in the ar$e."
Look at the above comment. Obviously I mentioned Amazon as a major retailer. LBP fell all the way to around 50-75 now it jumped to the number five spot.
You might want to stop...because you have no evidence of PS3 fans claiming the game was gonna sell copies and consoles (except for Nasim because he was the one who hyped it).
Bubbles are lost because of comments. It depends on what was said and how the person interpreted it.
LBP for me is nowhere near a flop. In fact, it is the best game I have played in years. I can't count the number of hours I have spent playing it and there are hours left to play. Sales do not make games and to say a game flopped due to only selling a million world wide is pretty silly.
Why dont you just f off. N4g doesnt need idiots like you talking crap.
Just remember that the xbox has been out twice as long as the PS3, therefore should be gaining twice the ground. The fact is its not.
No matter what crap you keep saying the PS3 is holding its ground very well against a console thats twice the price, and when the PS3 is 3 years in and drops in price, you will see whos in trouble then.
The problem is that there's not really that much people who wants to buy PS3 just because there are more cheaper choices with pretty wide game collection and obviously current PS3 owners are not enough to get the sales high or they just want something else than LBP.
"Just remember that the xbox has been out twice as long as the PS3, therefore should be gaining twice the ground. The fact is its not. "
And Sony dominated and i mean DOMINATED the last two console wars and shouldn't bet getting OWNED by Nintendo and M$ this bad! LOL... So your logic don't make sense! Dreamcast came out first last gen and look what happened to it. Also please learn math. The 360 has been out for 3 years now whil the PS3 has been out for 2 years now. So the 360 has not be out twice as long.
PS3 fans made no big deal about the 360 being out first because last gen the Dreamcast came out first and look what happened to them. You guys though the 360 will go in the way of the Dreamcast. Before the PS3 launch every PS3 fan was telling the 360 fans to say goodbye to the 360 because it will be the end of M$ in the console industry. But they all forgot what this "$" stands for M$! Sega didn't have the money to compete with the PS2 and thats why the Dreamcast went that way. Now its Sony that doesn't have the $$$ to compete with M$!
"No matter what crap you keep saying the PS3 is holding its ground very well against a console thats twice the price, and when the PS3 is 3 years in and drops in price, you will see whos in trouble then. "
LOL! We've heard this before. Wait till ... then the PS3 will dominate. We've been waiting for 2 years now how long is it going to take? And what makes you think that in 3 years the PS3 will be cheaper than the 360? You dont think M$ won't drop the price of the 360 for the next 3 years?
shame theres not more true platformers this gen.
I have,in fact i have played LBP and i did not like it....
U got it spot on. Have a bubble.
I was judging based on your avatar:) I'm surprised that since you have sense of humour, you didn't like LBP. Fair enough, I guess it's not everyone's cup of tea. There's plenty of other good games...
'LBP looked amazing, but after watching my friend play it, I was blown away by the sheer awesomness of it, GOTY AAA blaa blaa blaa'
However, you didn't, hence the mass of fanboys who disagreed. I own LBP but rarely play it in all honesty(Blame Resistance 2). Don't get me wrong its a solid game, just couldn't get into, I always check each week though to see how the levels are coming along and there are some impressive creations.
not a success . wow people are fkn retarded
LBP=EPIC FAIL
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA XD
Sales are respectable but no where near the blockbuster it was hyped to be.
Sorry for MM that made an amazing game and created an icon imo.
just fyi.
I think he meant exclusive.
Either way, GTA was extremely over hyped, didn't deserve the scores it got and definitley isn't the best game so far this gen.
LBP is a great game, and I think it deserves the 9-10's.
As for the article, I was in the beta and I can't wait to get it. The economy is what is preventing me from doing so. If I could afford any games at the moment, that's the first one I'd get.
Also, I personally don't care about sales. My favorite games (Ico, SotC) weren't exactly blockbusters, but that doesn't make them any less awesome.
And this is in no way a mean to disrespect the ps3 as a gaming machine but I think you and a whole lot of other ppl do not realize the amount of people who bought there ps3 just for movie purposes.
I was on a couple of av forums and the most bought and sought after blu ray player was and still is the ps3. The majority of the posters who owned them showed VERY expensive set ups with the ps3 being at the heart of their systems. The problem is most of them commented and stated they never really use it for gaming.
Of course i can't use that reasoning to explain the attach rate, however, it is definitely a viable reason as to why software sales arent as high as the wii's and 360's.
Why no story saying why the xBox 360 is a Flop for???
You know, it's cheaper than the Wii in the U.S.of.A and it still can't beat it??? (3 Months in a row now) + Only sold 20ish Million in 3 years??? WTF!!! THAT'S A FLOP!!! ;-D
(+Yeah i'll say that a Milllion of times on this to!!!) ;)
LBP IS NOT A FLOP!!! To all the haters on this Go F**K Yourselves to!!! Stupid internet people :-/
we're having a ball playing the best games of this generation while xbollox morons count beans and try to divert the world's attention from their tiny penises
It looks like a Childs game and NOBODY who spends $400 bucks on a system wants "Sackman". The PS3 is in HUGE trouble and if you think it is not you are fooling yourself.
@ duka
lol you are a brainwashed fool.
lOLzzzz!211one!!!!11
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that would be a Sony Slave
The game is about 1 million sold...or a lil more..dont see how thats a flop...
*KIDS wicked... KIDS*.
And the game is doing well. Coming up against bigger well known games.
You have to remember that this game was not advertised as it should have been, a few articles in newspapers isn't the right move.
You have to show this kind of thing in action.
I have the game, and it's excellent. I'm stuck on the bunker level atm. But i'll get off that wheel sometime soon:)
I'm also making a level, and once done should be pretty sweet, the editor is easy/ Nothign like the farcry,quake3 games i made maps 4.
MORE PS3 units in peoples homes = greater % of potential customers = larger software sales
And until the PS3 gets a price cut than you can pretty much scratch out the whole equation.
Bunch of retards, sales are only a little under a million under a month. Hows it a flop, Banjo did alot worse on 360.
Even tho i dont think LBP floped like i think comparing it to banjo is not doing any justice.Lbp was far over hyped than banjo and it got almost perfect reviews while banjo got alot of bad reviews.LBP was being called the new mario but no one ever called banjo the new mario.
Dont think im a 360 fan boy (i have both consoles) but im just poiting out to u that u are contradictig your self.
And i did not buy LBP because its not my type of game.I am not the type of gamer that finds creating levels and posting them online is fun.
How many advertisements for LBP had you seen before the launch? The only people over hyping this game where the fans.
Sony didn't shove this game in peoples faces the way gears 2 was or even fable 2 and Resistance 2.
In the main stream media I didn't see much hype. There was interest but I would not call that over hyped.
This game is for a younger audience, maybe a $250-$300 console, not a $400-$500 older audience.
See this game getting bundled with a cheaper console in the future.
No, Banjo was hailed as the Little Big Killer. LBP was not in seven eleven with it's own flavoured Mountain Dew, Sony doesn't pull that garbage and if you notice they never put a commercial on the air before launch. If they were concerned about first day sales, why would they hold off on the advertising until launch. That's Microshaft's game.
That beta's blowing peoples collective minds. You can't blame slow sales on beta's the audience isn't big enough.
We can't keep think that if we think one way everyone else think that same way.
There were a lot of people who loved the beta. If the game sold well would we be saying it was because of the beta?
Did COD:WaW sell well because of the beta that many people said could have been much better?
It's not the beta guys, it's the audience.
Plus the fact that many games hit afterward. I mean that might have changed people mind also.
It only accounted for the 25k of people, which is not that significant. Majority of the people haven't try the game. I went to The City(Circuit City) to buy this game 1 week after released, it was still on the "Pre Order" rack. the Store managers do not even know the game is already here. THey had to go into the storage room and pull it out when I ask and then they replaced all the pre order boxes....
It is due to lack of ads being a new IP and all, and also, this game has no competition in the market, it will sell well 1 year into the life time.
Dont u think with all the hype and good scores it got it should have sold alot more even tho it was delayed?
Funny thing is it should have been more....
Just because some loser on a half 4ssed nothing website writes some garbage, all the haters come out the wood work.
LOL! At failures on this forum talking about LPB 'failing'.
Check these losers previous posts, they are obvious fanboys/girls. Never take an objective comment serious from a loser with a Gears avatar.
I like how these xbox morons never come back to defend their comments, because they always know they're wrong. Pu$$ies
hey man. i know what you mean. i still waiting for proof that LBP sold 1 mil. but they still can't find any. one guy had the nerve to use vgchart as his proof. i'm still laughing.
Why do you care if you sold your PS3?
Does a lot of sales determine how great a game is supposed to be?
Get over yourself.
ha ha ha. there you go putting your foot in your mouth. i haven't sold my ps3. because as i said a number of times. NO-ONE WANTS IT. so i'm stuck with it.
no sales don't determine how good a game is. sale determine how much people recieves your product,will there be a sequel,will they stay exclusive,ect. just look at heavenly sword. you think if it would have sold better than it did. ninja theory would have made a HS2. and that the same with any game.
There's already talks of Little Big Planet 2. How do you know Little Big Planet won't go over a million or so? You expected a million in one day? It was a brand new IP. And no, don't drag Gears into this because that was a shooter. LBP is a concept never tried before.
Let's have an intelligent conversation without *you* claiming I have a foot in my mouth...no, scratch that.
You pissed me off.
be grateful for what. a console that sit there and collect dust, grateful for a console where 85% to 90% looks and plays better on the competitions console. and the reason no-one wants to buy it from me (which is a better deal MGS4,R2,UNCHARTED,RFoM,warhark on the HDD all for $300) is because no-one is interested in it other than a movie-player. yeah but i should be grateful. again for what????
"How do you know Little Big Planet won't go over a million or so"-how do you know it will go over. i mean you guys have been saying since this game was mentioned. that this game would sell ps3, and judgement day is upon us "xbot". now it's
"You expected a million in one day" for a new "IP" that hasn't gotten much press. i expect low sells. but for a game that has been advertised by fanboys/gaming sites for over a year now, who sony them selve felt that this game would push the casuals over to the ps3. it hasn't. so your new "IP" excuse went out the window.and no i wouldn't bring gears 2 into this arguement. because it has nothing to do with it.or the fact that it's a shooter.
this has to do with sony thinking that this game would be that game to get people to buy a ps3 for. LBP may sell 1million copies or it may not. but in the end. like i said before. it will sell like viva pinata.
Um...I'm pretty sure Dead Space looks great on my PS3. FarCry 2 looks good as well. I'm also getting Prince of Persia and hopefully Mirror's Edge. 85-90%? Where do you even get that percentage from? :D
I love how your PS3 is collecting dust. There's so many things you can do with a PS3 like...play games...browse the internet, and watch movies.
That's really sad because last year, I wanted to burn my PS3. This year, I enjoyed my PS3 thoroughly.
"and the reason no-one wants to buy it from me (which is a better deal MGS4,R2,UNCHARTED,RFoM,warhark on the HDD all for $300) is because no-one is interested in it other than a movie-player. yeah but i should be grateful. again for what????"
Yeah, and that's a really sad mindset there. The PS3 is a media center. It's a gaming console AND a movie player. It's sad you even have people who think like that. My uncle actually wants the 160gb PS3 for games and the movie player as well but he's waiting for a price drop.
"how do you know it will go over."
Because Uncharted sold over 2 million copies and it took time for it to reach that mark.
"i mean you guys have been saying since this game was mentioned. that this game would sell ps3, and judgement day is upon us "xbot". now it's..."
Guys like *who*? The only person running around with that comment was that nutcase Nasim. PS3 fans had every right to be excited about the game. It's amazing and it's likable. Every time I'm online, people are playing this game.
"i expect low sells. but for a game that has been advertised by fanboys/gaming sites for over a year now, who sony them selve felt that this game would push the casuals over to the ps3. it hasn't. so your new "IP" excuse went out the window.and no i wouldn't bring gears 2 into this arguement. because it has nothing to do with it.or the fact that it's a shooter."
But did Sony say it would happen in one day? Yes, they did say that but they didn't say it would happen in one day. Their sales take time to produce results.
"this has to do with sony thinking that this game would be that game to get people to buy a ps3 for. LBP may sell 1million copies or it may not. but in the end. like i said before. it will sell like viva pinata."
Uh-huh.
ok. out of those four game you just mentioned. and a small few of other. look better. but a majority of the games look and play better on the 360.that why you can only name those 4. i'll give you 8 games.but for your 4 games you named. i can throw out 8 games to back up my claim.(F.E.A.R,lost planet,half-life,madden,splint er cell,GRAW,rainbow 6 1 and 2,assasins creed,army of two,ect)
"I love how your PS3 is collecting dust. There's so many things you can do with a PS3 like...play games...browse the internet, and watch movies.
sorry but only you and these sonyfanboys get excited over these things. that have been done on P.C. for ages. i can browse the internet, play all my pc games, and i can watch movies. oh but because it's in the ps3. i should be happy. like i wasn't doing it before. THANKS SONY
"how do you know it will go over."
Because Uncharted sold over 2 million copies and it took time for it to reach that mark.
i know you really not trying to use uncharted a game that has been bundle with the system just to improve sale on the game. like it can't stand on it's own two feet. ps3/bundled with motorstorm1,LBP,ridge racer,uncharted,5 BR movies, R&C TOD, like what games has sony released that wasn't bundled. if thats how you have hide sales to cover up the fact that these games aren't selling is a problem.
"i expect low sells. but for a game that has been advertised by fanboys/gaming sites for over a year now, who sony them selve felt that this game would push the casuals over to the ps3. it hasn't. so your new "IP" excuse went out the window.and no i wouldn't bring gears 2 into this arguement. because it has nothing to do with it.or the fact that it's a shooter."
But did Sony say it would happen in one day? Yes, they did say that but they didn't say it would happen in one day. Their sales take time to produce results.
wow. did you take the time out to read what you post before you send it. because you just contradicted yourself. you still have time to go back a edit you comment.
"i mean you guys have been saying since this game was mentioned. that this game would sell ps3, and judgement day is upon us "xbot". now it's..." Guys like *who?
ok. you want to play these games. OK. how about guys like. nassim and his many accounts,eagle,darksniper,bill , shane,Sir_Ken_Kutaragi,ect. what you need more names. i could go on all day if you need me too. but i will end it here.
A big LOL at radiodread he went to an XBOT to a droid lmao!!!!
vega75: Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall.
yeah talikng to me is like talking to brick wall. i guess i would have said the same thing if i got owned as many times as you have. i think it's wise for you to stop. so you don't make yourself look sillier then you are ready do.
So many doom and gloom articles... shouldn't fanboys be playing with their Jaspers now?
That should have ended the article right there, but no? He some how tries to blame a beta?
I dont even know why this person writes? So that 360 owners will forget that there were only 3 good 360 games released this year, and the entire year has been full of nothing but flops for the major releases?
Gears2 and Fable2 were the ONLY thing that got anyone on n4g talking again. Up until that, the site was called 'wah wah all sony fanboys' because every single game floped starting in january. The 360 had games that scored lower than HAZE for christs sake.
Back off of LBP, it comes to this. IF you want to play the Highest Rated exclusive game on a Next-Gen console, play LBP. If you want to look at one day of a NPD report, and ignore the fact that LBP will be on sell after that one day, ignore that it debuted #1 in Chart Track then fell to number 2 after GEARS OF WAR 2, and sold copies in Japan. Well, Enjoy playing lower rated games and looking at that one NPD article? Have at it.
The game is easily close to the 1M mark, during this xmas I estimate around 1-1,5 M PS3 being sold, LBP, MGS4, R2, etc all of them will get a boost in sales
But hey, honestly as a PS3 owner, how does this hurt any of us? it has been a great year IMO
Best games right now are only on PS3, that "X360 has the best games" is getting old, a year ago it was accurrate (I play all of them and since then only Gears 2 can be count as a AAA game) today those games are outdated, Microsoft tried to refresh the catalogue but didn't succeed, Too human, Ninja Gaiden, the Square Enix low budget RPGs are already forgotten
Here comes a list of only on PS3 (forget about finding them on PC), fresh games, new, from this year...we live in the present not in the past and look forward to the future... GOTY is between LBP and MGS4 and it will get better next year.
GT5P
MGS4
Resistance 2
LittleBigPlanet
Motorstorm PR
Singstar
Buzz Quiz Show
SOCOM: Confrontation
Valkyria Chronicles
HotShots Golf
Wipeout HD
Soon: Killzone 2, inFAMOUS, Heavy Rain
+ all the multiplatform games
= VARIATION, that's what is great with the PS3 right now, that's why we don't need a X360 really, they can cut the price to USD 99 and still I would think twice before getting it, why? to play Fallout 3, GTA IV, RE, GH, Far Cry 2, etc you don't need 2 consoles
As soon as SONY cuts the price, X360 owners will be all over it, it's just a matter of money not that the console doesn't have kick ass games...soon Killzone 2 will join the growing catalogue of REAL exclusives
Media talks about exclusives being dead and that's correct, 3rd party exclusives maybe but first party games will always be exclusives, SONY has dev studios worldwide and it's starting to show, Microsoft was counting to sell lot more consoles than the PS3 so they could buy 3rd party exclusives but they didn't count with the PS3 keeping up this well so 3rd party developers have already said 'multiplatform is the way to go" Many see this as a victory for Microsoft but it's the opposite...
that's why Microsoft's goal is to sell more consoles, to try to get 3rd party exclusives with the help of their base installment but it's too late, they know they can't compete with 1st party games, by the time they release 2 SONY releases 4 or more.